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[siberianmo]

Late night/early morning greetings!

wanswheel MIke An interesting question you present regarding Carl Perkins. The only thing I know about that name is that he was the "rockabilly" singer who originally performed Blue Suede Shoes (a question posed a few pages ago, but never responded to by the "guys). Second, a search found the name again, but connected with the AFL-CIO - not the AFL as in football or the NFL or the AFC. So, I don't know![swg]

Really enjoyed the URL on the AFL. Brought back lots of memories. I attended a few of the NY Titans inaugural season football games at the old Polo Grounds in NYC. That was a heckuva league - wide open football![yeah]

On that South Shore Line, do you have any info on those RR cars to share[?]

Nick What a great "typically Nick" Post, but oh so full of ups 'n downs.

Sorry to learn of your setback and fully understand not being of a mindset for the banter that goes on 'round here.[tdn] Was there a boat on the trailer at the time of collapse and if so, any damage to it[?]

Interesting story about Boris - he's YOUR man, ya know, and we're all thankful he didn't return with any friends and/or realtives in tow![swg]

You are thinking of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" - a great song about a tragedy that still has many in the maritime community baffled. She went down in a horrific storm in the evening of November 10, 1975 with 29 men lost. A good "read" is Frederick Stonehouse's The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald (1977), an investigative narrative that pretty much convinced me of the reasons for the sinking.

Given the lateness of the hour here and early rise (5 AM), better put the brakes to this for now. Certainly hope all turns into an upswing for you![tup]

Thanx for the round, as always![tup] Hope to see ya soon.

Nite![zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Well howdy guys,time for a sanity break and looks like you`re it-apologies for paucity of recent posts,but I find myself living in "interesting times" as the Confucians amongst us would put it-between discovering that our boat trailor has completely collapsed into a puddle of rust flakes and will cost a cool £1000 to replace ( there goes the bulk of the holiday fund ),the front man of the band from which I derive my principal income announcing that he is seeking pastures new ( with immediate effect,contractual obligations notwithstanding ) plus a brace of matters domestic that fall under the heading of "emotional baggage to be left at the door" I really havn`t been in a frame of mind to make usefull contributions to as gentle a gathering as this.
However,tomorrow is another day.....
[4:-)]TOM-a Staropramen please,the special reserve rum bottle (no glass),a round for the house & your refreshment of choice...also could you persuade Boris to dust off the house rickshaw for a quick run out to the Zeppelin shed later-with all the building work afoot in Mentor village of late I no longer trust to my "moonlight mile " shortcuts.
So,to business-a few highlights only from the last few weeks-----right,my carefully scribed notes appear to have been replaced with a poorly inked transcription of the lyrics to `Brand New Cadillac`-what is going on around here ?
right,from memory-DOUG a brilliant submission on the Indian railways-your stock here increases daily--CM3-you made mention of the NH in a recent M.R article-have you checked out the latest `special`-B+M,M.E.C & C.V all in the one cover-well worth a look,ALL who have posted photos this year-fine work,I had hoped to be in there with you from the get-go but twas not to be-TED-we will get the trainplayer interaction sorted,nice work on the layout [tup][^][tup]-E-Mails appreciated-have you ever tried explaining 1-4-7 to ( well meaning) teenage meatheads who think that `swing` is a piece of play-park apparatus-I despair- ROB-still recovering from your latest E-Mails-so wrong on so many levels ( who took these pix,who collated them-I havn`t slept well for days-I may never eat again.........) BK-glad your enjoying the trip-not the place for Euro/U.S political discussion but the best analogy I`ve heard recently compares us to the Greek & Roman civilisations of antiquity.
O.K-a good point to stop for a refill,same again please [4:-)]TOM,and you had better help me out with this rum-a tricky customer at best..........
Right,whilst I`m here,the big hello goes out to AL,MIKE,JOHN,LARS,TRACIE (whoops-wrong site),PETE and any others I`ve failed to mention.
Now some of you will no doubt have noted the recent absence of Boris,our pet science project / refugee /hired help-well the fact of the matter is this..
After all these many months of faithful,if slightly unpredictable,service we felt he deserved a holiday and naturally he evinsed a desire to return to the old country to meet with the clan -this we naturally agreed to,however,nothing in this world is ever easy and customs were less than helpfull,requiring a full taxonomic classification before they would let him pass.
We searched in vain through the "Flora & Fauna of N.America","European beasts of field & forest","The collected works of Bram Stoker" & " Mary Shelley`s guide to the gothic novel" without success.
At last,and in some desperation,a brief and smudged footnote in the book of revelations proved sufficient to our needs and he was bundled aboard the Zeppelin `Draig Goch`,green card in paw and was dispached back whence he came.
He has now returned,renewed & re-invigorated and insistant that Tex the `dillo has served his time as a yard switcher and should be upgraded to a road switcher and given more beer crates & a proper layout chalked in the back yard ( he seems to think that the giant thanksgiving turkey oven would make a great 1:24 scale steel mill..who am I to argue?.
Right [4:-)]TOM-best put that bottle away before it does any more damage,guess I`ll throw a dollars worth in the wurlitzer as a parting gesture-how about some Little Feat,Johnny Winter & as suggested by ROB the ever-brilliant Gordon Lightfoot ( that one about the Iron ore boat sinking on Lake Superior-cant remember the name but a beautiful song)
O.K. guys ,its the rickshaw for me,delighted to have had some decent company,see you all as soon as the tangled web permits,take care now,nick[C=:-)]

[wanswheel]

Tom, the South Shore Line is currently (no pun intended) operated by the Northern Indiana Commuter Transportation District. I think it was formerly, formally, the Chicago, South Shore & South Bend Railroad, which became the name of a freight railroad. Hudson Lake is near New Carlisle, IN.

Re: old NFL to new AFC teams, was one of them owned by Carl Perkins?
Okay, maybe the Colts, the Browns and the Steelers.
http://www.conigliofamily.com/AFL.htm

[siberianmo]

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PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #6

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from the 1950’s: First Posted on page 133



Canadian Pacific … by land … across Canada

Now see Canadian Pacific’s spectacular Banff-Lake Louise Route - From the Scenic Domes of the “The Canadian”

Mile-high in the Canadian Rockies, Banff Springs is famous the world over for its scenic surroundings, complete outdoor recreation facilities. Both Banff and nearby Lake Louise are on the route of “The Canadian.”

Treat yourself to the world’s longest, most spectacular Scenic Dome ride as “The Canadian” winds through the Canadian Rockies on its transcontinental route. From high in the Scenic Domes of Canada’s only stainless-steel Scenic Dome streamliner you’ll thrill to the breath-taking view of Canada’s unspoiled natural beauty. And aboard “The Canadian” you’ll find the accommodations superb, the service unexcelled. You may travel tourist or first class – coach seats reserved at no extra fare.

See your travel agent for information about “The Canadian” – in daily service throughout the year between Montreal or Toronto, and Vancouver.

Canadian Pacific
World’s Greatest Travel System

RAILWAYS – STEAMSHIPS – AIRLINES – HOTELS – COMMUNICATIONS – EXPRESS

That's it for me until the 'morrow - Leon the Night Man has the bar.

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

Just logged on and see that passengerfan Al Posted and "skeedaddled!" Tsk, tsk - could've stuck it out to see my response![swg]

Thanx for the descriptions of my 2nd Dome Montage (poster) from yesterdays pix Posting![tup][tup]

I think your idea is a good one regarding questions on the Classic Streamliners, et al - however - beware the pratfalls. This thread is notorious for "blowing off" questions and the like. Just recall how difficult it is to get participation in Contests, Birthday bashes and my most recent request, RR Book Relay! Good luck![tup]

Not quite sure what the relationship is between your ability to Post Streamliner info and printer problems. Huh[?] At any rate, hope to see you back in "business" real soon!

Al Where did you get info that BK works for taxpayers[?] I assure you, he is not on the public's expense account. What he does and who he does it for, as far as I know, is strictly in the private sector. I think the place he departed from earlier this month, Alberta's high country, is the "perfect winter vacation spot ......" although, there surely are a few zillion great spots in Scandanavia fer sure, fer sure![tup] But then again, from what he's initimated, he's not on vacation - not by a long shot.

By the by, I really appreciate your participation over on "my other thread." You, Lars & BK have really helped kick-start that thread. Thanx![tup][tup][tup]

A round for the house, it is - Boris Ring the bell! Not many at the bar today, but we do have a group in the pool room who will come runnin' once they hear that "gong!"[swg]

Hello Mike! Was beginning to wonder about this day, and now two of our more regular customers have shown up! Good to see ya ... [tup]

Tell us more about that train in your 2nd URL!! What is it - where is it and who operated it[?] Thanx!

We seemed to run the gamet of 'bad news'back in the times you mentioned. There were so many sorrows in that decade, so many good men lost at all levels of society.

I think Lars misspoke, using the AFL team. Actually, the Patriots of those times were the BOSTON Patriots. Didn't change their names to New England until after the merger, if memory serves me correctly. When the AFC came into being, three NFL teams were moved over, can you recall who they were[?][swg]

What a CRAZY looking truck!![tdn]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[wanswheel]

Hi Tom and everyone, let's uncork something from the wine list, foreign or DOMEstic to suit the occasion.

Tom, the Union Pacific domeliner pictured would have to be the Challenger, I think.
Bangor & Aroostock had 2 passenger cars in 1963? An amazing bit of tid.

It was on a summer day in 1963 that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream"speech, live on TV and I watched, duly impressed. What I recall most most vividly, though, is that just as we were listening to his funeral broadcast on the radio in Vietnam, I received and opened a letter from my mother, which began, "Dear Mike... Grandpa died April 1." (Her father).

Doug, more great reading. Cute little loco from the Chicago tunnels. Surprised to learn England supplied coal to Russia.

Lars, the "AFL" team in the trophy chase was the Pats. Interesting stuff on S.I.R.T.

Rob, the Pepsi truck is sporting a coat of diagonal paint, very different from http://www.hcry.org/CPEL_M6.HTM

Ted, as you know, to the right http://bixography.com/images2/icecreamtrain.jpg is the old Blue Lantern Casino at Hudson Lake, where Bix Beiderbecke played six nights a week in the summer of 1926, on the South Shore Line.

From the book "Working" by Studs Terkel. Here he quotes Bill Norworth, who had worked in a roundhouse from 1917 to 1922, as a fireman from 1922 to 1944, and as an engineer from 1944 to 1970 *

"A diesel's a lot easier than steam. It's a lot better job. Diesels can handle more cars, more tonnage. Deisel'll pull anything. They move, they can run. They don't take the know-how that you had to have with a steam engine. Steam engine was more of a challenge. Those men weren't well educated but still had the know-how. They could get more out of an engine than a man that had a college degree. It was all pride."

"When they got the diesel and got rid of the firemen. they had to make 'em engineers overnight almost.
They're savin' themselves a penny, but it cost 'em, in my imagination, a dollar afterwards. 'Cause they've got men now goin' over the road that never even worked as a fireman on that territory, that hardly spent any time on the road."

"Most of the diesel work, it's electrical. If it breaks down, they can't fix it. You've gotta send for somebody. In the old days with a steam engine, why, it was up to you to get that engine in. If something you could see was wrong, why, you could do all the repairs yourself or put grease or oil or what was needed to bring it in. With the deisel, you got your throttle and a brake, same as an automobile. I think it's easier than driving an automobile. You're on rails. On an automobile you gotta watch curves and all that. That's truthful."

"Diesel's very clean. In the old days, with the steam engine, you had steam leaks and all that. And in the wintertime there was times you could almost go over the road and barely see any crossings, with the steam leaking around the cylinders. Diesel, you could sit in a business suit. Same as this room. It's almost soundproof. With a diesel, all you are is like a bump on a log up there up front."

*Copyright 1972, 1974. I think it's okay to post these excerpts. My intent is to share, not for profit, and to recommend the book.

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.

Don't know when I will be able to do PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER as my printer went down this AM.

Nice to hear from BK I see he is spending his time in those perfect winter vacation spots and a taxpayer expense Must be nice!

Guess I will have to tackle the second dome montage as I don't have much to do for the next hour before returning to office.

Top Left:
Grand Canyon Railway Dome Coach ex Amtrak originally Budd built for NP GN or SP&S.

Second Left Northern Railcar Dome Dining Car originally UP Dome Dining Car

Third Left UP Dome Coach

Fourth Left That foreign dome again either French or German

Top Right: CZ Dome Sleeper Lounge Observation

Second Right SILVER LOOKOUT another CZ Dome Sleeper Lounge Observation

Third Right Rio Grande Ski Train Dome Coach ex CZ Dome Coach.

Maybe we should put out some questions on Classic Streamliners or streamlined Passenger cars and see who we get answering same.

Really feel lost without my printer so hope service tech solves problem tomorrow.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Well, well, had I looked before Posting, I would have picked up Lars and BK's input. Goes to show ya.[swg]

So, just as predicted, this day has been one where our regulars are doing other than stoppin' by the bar. Good day for the ENCORES!

BK Hey! Good to see you and also thanx for the Email! From what you have said here and in the mail, you've been a busy, busy guy. WInding down sometimes is more difficult than getting one's feet on the ground. I recall that in the waning days of my final assignment, I spent lots of time covering lots of miles with my relief just to satisfy the organization's trepidations.[swg]

Lars Nice work with your SIRT story - and there's lots to tell about that railroad. While it is a rather 'centric' line and topic, when one considers the population of the area, not just Staten Island, I'd say the numbers who have traveled aboard those trains would surprise many. Good stuff.[tup][tup]

I share much of what you had to say regarding Sunday, ignorance and the NFL's surprises. Was an interesting set of games, fer sure, fer sure.

Man oh man, Pete is going to owe me big time this coming Sunday, as I'll be heading to the airport to pick them up while game #2 is on! I am really more interested in the AFC game, which I should be able to view without interruption. The VCR will get some use for the w2nd one.[swg]

I understand your comments about being retired and the days of the week. Man oh man do I understand that! It's funny, I have been retired for over half the years that I served and it seems just like yesterday. My goal is to outlive 'em in the sense that I would like my 'stone' to say, "Here lies a guy who lived more years after retirement than years he served!" Thirty-two "in" and who knows how many left[?][swg]

BK Nice run down on where you've been. I recall the currencies of Scandanavia. Still have some Norweigian coins in my "Euro box," along with Swedish and Danish currency. Never made it to Finland though. My one and only trip to Iceland was strictly aboard ship, no time for any shore leave. Sure do envy you in the sense that northern Europe has always been one of my favorite places to visit - and I do mean north![tup]

Lars & BK The less said about the "jerk" the better. Let it go, Gents, just let it go.

BK That's some interesting stuff you put forth regarding the Euro commentary about the U.S. The inference over the MLK holiday would most assuredly send many into orbit. However, there may just be something to think about in that statement. If I read what you've said again, I see something to discuss, not something to over react about.

As of late, I tire rather quickly of anti-U.S. anything. There was a time I had much more tolerance for differences of opinion, however, in today's world of "bashing this 'n that" I have no patience whatsoever. So much is non-fact-based and so much is crap, anecdotal crap and nonsense. Unfortunately, we have a media who feeds on this kind of misinformation, circulating and repeating until it "becomes like fact." Barf! Absolute, barf![tdn] Okay, Boris I know - [#offtopic] so yes, ring the bell, and I'll set 'em up![swg]

Okay Gents, time for me to take leave for a bit. It's quiet enough 'round here, so I'm going to experiment with Boris behind the bar!<yikes!!> That should scrare the wits out of anyone coming through those doors![swg]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

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PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #5 FIRST POSTED ON PAGE 133

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from 1886:


A Red Letter DAY

For – Canada

June 28, ‘86

… WHEN THE …

CANADIAN PACIFIC Railway

OPENS to the PACIFIC OCEAN

………. TRAIN LEAVES DAILY: ……….
Toronto, - - - - - - 5.00 p.m.
Montreal - - - - - - 8.00 “
Ottawa, - - - - - - 11.45 “
………. except Sunday ……….

OUR OWN LINE

………. FROM THE ……….
ATLANTIC to the PACIFIC

NO CUSTOMS – NO DELAYS – NO TRANSFERS –
LOW RATES – QUICK TIME

for further particulars apply to any Agent of the Company, or to
W. D. HUGHES, Traveling Passenger Agent
W. R. CALLAWAY, District Passenger Agent
………. 110 King Street West, Toronto ……….

W. C. VAN HORNE, Vice President
GEO. OLDS, Cust. Traffic Manager
D. McNICOLL, General Pass. Agent
………. MONTREAL……….


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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[BudKarr]

Hello Captain Tom and Gentlemen at and of the Bar!

Greetings from Europe – Copenhagen to be specific. At the onset, I must tell you that there’s been no rail travel at all, this is business and no time for pleasure – at least not yet.

Been to the capitals of Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark. Getting a pattern here?<grin> Will most probably be repeating those cities in reverse order as I wind down my involvements with the “company.”

Took a bit of doing to get the laptop to speak with and through the hotel connections for ultimate meshing with the internet. Tested it out yesterday and enjoyed browsing through the photos for Sunday. Happy for you that this fine idea of merit is still up and running. Kudos to you and of course those who make it happen – Sir Barndad and Sir Trolleyboy as the mainstays and a fine contribution from Sir Theodorebear (that’s a mouthful, isn’t it?) and the most recent customer, Mr. LoveDomes. Good job all and I know these efforts of yours go a long way toward keeping our leader thinking that all of his efforts are indeed worth it.

Let me buy the house a drink, unfortunately it seems my pockets are full of Krone, the currency of Denmark. Also still have some Euros from Finland, Kroner from Norway, Krona from Iceland & Sweden and it goes on and on. I suppose the single currency is a good idea, but it has a long way to go to get the Europeans to accept it. Right now, I believe only 12 nations are using the Euro. So, here’s a handful of my pocket change for your Juke Jar (cannot think of the name!) and some folding money for the round. No doubt, the Village bank will change it over.<grin>

I was logged on at the time of the inappropriate posting. Almost wanted to come through the screen and grab the intruder by the throat. One hand would be all I need – I do know how!

Had an opportunity to discuss some “American policy” during this trip and as always, I am amazed at just how much the Euro’s know about us, and how it seems we know so little about them. That is indeed what feeds the “Ugly American” attitude found when one travels abroad.

A comment I got that would surely evoke some emotion centered on our holiday for this day. More than one put forth their thoughts about why does the U.S. spend so much time and effort on 13 percent of its population? Is that a racist statement? I suppose some would try to make it so, but I think it is more of a commentary from those viewing us and our society rather than anything else. They see us as a preoccupied lot, always trying to project the right image, but falling far short when it comes to carrying it out.

These nations do not have the racial divide we have witnessed, but they are soon to be awoken by a different menace from the world that is being torn asunder under the guises of religion and the movement of masses of people bent on changing Europe. There are some who are alarmed over this and the contingency planning seems to be falling into place, at least by some in the business world.

I must apologize for not jumping right in with a discussion about trains – there simply is not any material for me to use until I return to my mountain retreat!

My return date is open, and at best guess, I would project at least another two week, perhaps three.

There is a knock at the door and it probably is my call to dinner. Having one of those “working sessions” this evening.

My hope is that all of you are doing well and hope to connect with you in the near future.


BK wishing I was in Alberta!

[LoveDomes]

Good Day to all!

Hello Tom, looks like your photo day was a rousing success and I must say, you beat me to the punch with those dome posters! They were all set for submission when I noticed yours. That’s quite a photo site, isn’t it? The people at train.web.org really provide a nice service and it is appreciated![tup][tup]

To Doug - Rob - and Ted your photo's were looked at, enjoyed and envied in some cases. Ted There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to clairfy or otherwise caveat your work. Nicely done and there's evidence of a keen eye for detail![tup] And, Al you picked up nicely on Tom's Dome Poster, but how about the 2nd one[?][swg]

Only one “blem” and once again from the jerk of all jerks who I alluded to in a previous post. It doesn’t take a whole lot to figure out that this guy mustn’t have had very many toys to play with as a kid, for he surely likes to “flex” on the forums. Oh to be so omnipotent. We cannot keep them from making their thoughts known, but we sure in blazes don’t have to encourage them with our direct recognition. I totally support the policy of the bar![tup][tup][tup]

Please, please, one and all, refrain from any “counseling” in my direction, I am totally in control and after all, this is the never-never-land of the cyber void. Just venting. Boris my man (if that’s what you really are[?][?]!!) ring that bell and Tom, set up a round on me! Will the ten spot handle it[?]

Today is a holiday, or so they tell me. When retired, these days all run together, with hardly any distinguishing factors separating them out – except Sunday. That’s the Lord’s Day in our house and we do take it rather seriously. My wife and I do not shop on Sunday’s nor do we spend any time doing things that are more appropriate for other days of the week. Things like tax preparation, bill paying, laundry, ironing, and the like. It is our day for RnRnR, (rest, relaxation and reflection). That “tradition” seems to have taken hold in the families of our offspring as well.[tup]

Some fine NFL games this weekend and I am surprised by a couple of results. Thought New England would advance along with Indy. Not that the opposing teams weren’t up to the challenge – after all they won! – but just that the playoffs are when the cream rises to the top and I figured the Patriots had a lot left. The Colts on the other hand really didn’t look that sharp to me in the closing games of the regular season, and the Steelers really looked great. I think an AFL team will win the Super Bowl, figured that pretty much from the get-go, and as always, it’s a shame that some fine teams have been dropped along the way. What say you and I, Tom, take up officiating NFL games[?] They surely could use some proficient help. Seems to be a perfect job for a couple of retired guys who call ‘em as they see ‘em![swg]

Was digging through some of my “stuff” on the S.I.R.T. and found these “blurbs” for anyone interested:

Caveat: These ramblings are not necessarily in order of events, but rather a free-flow of my thoughts and notes at the time of preparation. Therefore, it will not be uncommon for the reader to experience a back and forth reference to time and places as I proceed through this effort.

The Staten Island Rapid Transit (S.I.R.T.) – Part One:

At the beginning of the 20th Century, all the Boroughs of New York City had elevated and subway service with the exception of the Borough of Richmond (Staten Island). Over 100 years back, the Staten Island Rapid Transit operated a surface rail system with small steam engines and passenger cars taking people from one end of the island to the other (about 15 miles from St. George to Tottenville, the southernmost point in New York State). There were also branches emanating from St. George along the northern shore of the island and a parallel line to a popular summer spot, South Beach. The S.I.R.T. joined in partnership with the B&O, the nation’s oldest railroad, which also provided a valuable freight link across the island to New Jersey.

With the introduction of trolleys to the island in 1895, the S.I.R.T. suffered a loss in ridership, throwing it into bankruptcy. When purchased by the B&O, ferry service to Manhattan was also included. A legacy somewhat lost in the history of the rather famous “Staten Island Ferry.”

There were several well laid plans to link the island with the Borough of Brooklyn by tunnel. In 1925, the idea was to bring the BRT subway to Staten Island by way of a tunnel under The Narrows. Politics got in the way, funding arguments ensued, and the idea eventually faded into the file cabinet drawers of history.

Time and smart management practices, along with a population “spurt” helped the S.I.R.T. through some rough years and it remained a viable mass transit like long after trolleys disappeared from the streets of Staten Island. However, a fine bus system, replaced the trolleys and eventually helped lead to the demise of two of the three branches. Today, the link between St. George and Tottenville still exists.

The ending of passenger service on two of the three branches was primarily due to the actions of the New York City Board of Transportation. This body controlled all of the transit in the City with the exception of the S.I.R.T. and a few other surface lines. With the introduction of 12-cent fares, generous transfers and combination travel between bus and subway, the S.I.R.T. simply couldn’t compete. In 1953, the north shore and South Beach lines were discontinued.


Okay, Gentlemen, I’d say that’s enough from me, and perhaps I will have to return this post, given that Tom’s sage words have finally hit home: why waste a perfectly good post when there’s no one reading it[?]

Until the next time,

Lars

[siberianmo]

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: FIRST POSTED ON PAGE 142

Bangor & Aroostook (BAR)

Headquarters: Bangor, ME

Mileage:

1950: 616
2000: 433

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesels: 46

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 4,646 – Passenger cars: 2

Principal lines in 1950 (all in Maine):

Searsport-Derby-Fort Kent
Brownville-Brownville Jct.
Northern Maine Jct.-Bangor
Derby-Greenville
Old Town-South Lagrange
South Lagrange-West Seboois
Oakfield-Phair-Presque Isle-Van Buren
Van Buren-St. Francis
Squa Pan-Stockholm
Mapleton-Presque Isle
Caribou-Limestone
Phair-Fort Fairfield

Passenger Trains of note:

Aroostock Flyer (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.)
Potatoland Special (Bangor-Van Buren via Houlton and Presque Isle, with through cars from Boston via Northern Maine Jct.)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

Another fine day here in mid-continent USA as the blue skies continue with the warm-up expected to reach the 60s (F). As unpredictable as January can be, this month has been spring-like thus far for the most part. C'mon SNOW![tup]

Check the SUMMARY for recognition on Sunday Photo Posting Day![tup]

Some acknowledgments are in order:

barndad Doug Posted: 16 Jan 2006, 05:40:14 and 05:52:29

Nice start for a new day!

Track gang and rules[?] Kinda like a match and a striker![swg] Of course, partaking on the job as opposed to off is another matter. Just as long as they don't bring the remnants of their shenanigans to work!

Good stuff on the Chicago Tunnel Company and the Russian Decapods. I would imagine your 8 fingers and two thumbs have gotten quite a workout with all the typing you've done![swg][tup]

Thanx for kick-starting our morning, much appreciated.[tup][tup]

Theodorebear Posted: 16 Jan 2006, 07:45:05

Holiday Mondays set the stage for a long work week, at least that's how I recall them. My bride feels the same way, as a four-day week somehow really "feels" longer than most.

Caught your comment on recognition for the newcomers. Question is, where are they these days[?] Only one seems to border on being a regular lately. Too soon to make any conclusions regarding our newest attendee, but fer sure, fer sure, he is on the right track! The January meeting of The Selection Committee has yet to take place. However, some not-so-new-guys may be “elevated,” we’ll have to wait ‘n see. [^]

Appreciate your stoppin’ by and hope you have a wonderful day at the parade![tup]
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I expect things to be slow today, Gents, so perhaps some ENCORE! pieces will be provided as we progress through the day.[yeah]


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[Anonymous]

Good morning early folks. Tom, I think a cuppa Joe and a toasted English will do it, thanks. While in the "gratitude" mode, thanks so much for the trouble of "making a silk purse from a Sow's ear."[tup] All of these pix of my humble efforts are "work in progress" types. These are very early "shots" and much has changed since then. I hope to be prepared to make "updates" with decent camera equipment very soon. Sunday Photo Posting was a compelling addition to the already high standards set previously. We all owe a debt of gratitude for the efforts of these Contributors, many thanks![tup][tup][tup].

Barndad Doug, the Chicago Tunnel Company was unkown to me until P.B.S. ran a documentary that entailed a tour of the remnants still existing. It seems there was a special group of rail historians who arranged a guided tour and the running dialogue covered the purpose, history and operations. I'll try to find the details in my V.C.R. archives for later posting. Ya gotta love the abundent info and data volunteered on the Dome Cars along with the fine photos.[^] Rob, of course you already know what a "feast for the eyes" your traction submissions are for me.[tup] Can't wait to see, hear and yes, even ride the "real McCoy" come this Spring. There are so many great things coming from our most recent guests that proper recognition perhaps should be forthcoming in a more official way? Any rate, "Our" Place has earned the status of THE Place to be through everyone's generous efforts. Happy M. L. King Day to one and all. I have been envolved in a bit of the "M. L. K. Parade" coordinating (Downtown) and the logistics of 25 local and visiting marching bands commemorating the event. I can't stay long but will return a.s.a.p. Okay Boris, "let 'er rip" and coffee is on me this day. Happy rails to all.

[siberianmo]

MONDAY'sINFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


A fresh start to as new week, a holiday for many. Why not begin it with us by drawing a hot cup of freshly brewed coffee[?] While you’re at it, try our <light> and <traditional> breakfasts along with freshly baked pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!

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Special mention goes out to trolleyboy Rob – barndad Doug – Theodorebear Ted – and – LoveDomes Lars for Sunday’s Photo Postings! Also, honorable mention to passengerfan Al for those descriptions of the Dome Montage posted by moi!

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Daily Wisdom

I double checked it six times. (Yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 01:29:08 (220) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 05:00:23 (220) 7 Pix!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 07:30:56 (220) 2005 Sunday Photo Posting Day! INDEX

(4) barndad Doug Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 08:12:10 (220) 7 Pix, part deux!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 08:50:27 (220) Pix – Dome montage, part I of II

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 09:02:19 (220) 4 Domes!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 09:46:01 (220) 4 Pike Pix from Ted!

(8) passengerfan Al Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 09:59:28 (221) Descriptions of dome montage![tup]

(9) No recognition [tdn] Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 11:03:43 (221) Rude![tdn]

(10) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 11:09:02 (221) 4 more Dome pix!

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 15:14:00 (221) Pix – Dome montage, part II of II

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 17:56:26 (221) Unworthy Post

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 23:09:50 (221) 6 pack of pix!

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 23:31:17 (221) 6 pack of pix! part deux


NOW SHOWING at The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre:

. . . January 16th thru 21st: Disaster on the Coastliner (1979-TV) starring Lloyd Bridges, Raymond Burr & Robert Fuller.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

... OK ... that was just "warm-up" reading. Here's part I of a new series!

A Brief History of Russian Decapods – by Thomas J. Schneider and Hugh R. Harris – selected from November 1996 Rail & Wire

In 1914 the Imperial Russian government began ordering locomotives like this one from American builders. – courtesy Railraod Museum of Pennsylvania (PHC) – H.L. Broadbelt Collection


In one sense the story of Frisco 1630, one of IRM’s regularly operating steam locomotives begins in 1914 in a city many thousands of miles away. In Sarajevo – then part of Austria-Hungary. In that period the “Great Powers” were France, Germany, Russia and England. (At that time, the United States was not considered a world power since it had not yet developed a military world presence.) The expansionist aims of Germany were in conflict with the established areas controlled by the British Empire and the French Colonial Empire, and tensions had been building for years.

In June the heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was assassinated in Sarajevo by a Serb Nationalist and within a few weeks Europe was at war; with Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire aligned against France, Russia and England. As those of you who follow current events know, Sarajevo is still a center of conflict. Perhaps history repeating itself!

Although Russia was considered one of the Great Powers, that huge country under the Czarist regime was poorly developed and badly equipped for what was to become the first “technical” war. One of the biggest problems was the transportation system, which was in very poor condition. The onset of war immediately increased the stress on the Russian railroad system. Before the war most of Russia’s coal supply had come from England through the Baltic ports. On the outbreak of war the German High Seas Fleet closed the Baltic Sea to Allied traffic, just as the British Fleet closed the North Sea and Channel to German traffic. The only developed coal fields in Russia were 1,400 miles from Petrograd, the major manufacturing area. So now the Russians, with an outdated railway system and broken-down equipment, had to move over 1,500 carloads of coal every week from the mines to the manufacturing plants by rail.

They urgently needed both locomotives and cars, and they started to buy them from the Allies. The Allies wanted to keep Russia as strong as possible. One of the Allies’ greatest needs was to keep the German and Austrian armies, at that time the best in the world, fighting on two fronts. To do that England and France provided materials and training for Russian armed forces and material support for their transportation system. Both England and France had greater industrial capacity than Russia; however they had their own needs for ammunition, guns, ships and transportation equipment.

The other possible source of railroad equipment was the United States, not yet at war and technically neutral. At that point in time, there was a great deal of industrial capacity available in the U.S. In 1914 and 1915, US railroads had ordered fewer than 2,000 locomotives each year. This compares to the average of over 4,000 locomotives per year ordered in the 10 years from 1905 to 1915. (See Table I.) Both the Baldwin Locomotive Works and the American Locomotive Company (Alco) found the Russian orders very welcome additions in their backlog. In fact Samuel Vauclain of the Baldwin Locomotive Works made a couple of trips to Russia in the 1914-1916 time period to negotiate locomotive orders with the Czarist government.



In 1914 Russia began ordering railroad equipment from the United States. In 1914 and 1915, orders totaled about 750 locomotives and several thousand freight cars. Many of the locomotives were fairly small switching types but a significant number were the “Russian Decapods.” These 2-10-0s were designed and constructed under the directions of A.I. Lipetz, chief of the locomotive division of the Russian Mission. (The Russian government maintained a “Mission” in the US to negotiate and arrange transportation and munitions orders.)

The locomotives were built for the Russian track gauge of five feet (3 ½” wider than the US standard). The specifications were based upon hauling 1,800 metric tons at a speed of 8 to 10 mph over grades of 0.8%. They would burn soft coal, so a wide, radial stayed firebox was built over the rear drivers. The firebox door swung inwards and was manually operated. The firebox was fitted with Security sectional arch supported on water tubes. The locomotive was fitted with two vertically mounted injectors on the backhead.

The boiler was a straight top type and deep throat on the firebox meant that the boiler was exceptionally high, with the center line about 10’ above the top of the rail. As originally built by the locomotives had unusually large steam domes which contained an elaborate system of baffles for drying the steam. Another unusual feature was that, as built, the locomotives had a second whistle which could be operated by a cord from the train.

The Russian decapods were built for a market very different from the US railroads. The labor force was much less skilled and heavy equipment was not widely available, although labor was cheap. With the lower skill levels available in Russia it was felt necessary to provide built-in protection for the locomotive rather than depend upon the skill and knowledge of the engineman.

The locomotives were equipped with a couple of Russian designed valves. One was the Zybaloff by-pass valve, mounted over the steam chest on each side. This valve operated to open direct passages between the ends of the cylinders when the throttle valve shut off steam to the cylinders. The second valve was the Shukaloff drifting valve, attached to the side of the smokebox, which passed saturated steam to the super-heater header and cylinder to improve lubrication and prevent damage when drifting.

As built the locomotives also had variable exhaust nozzles. These were connected through a linkage to a handwheel in the cab and allowed control of draft through the tubes and flues. The main drivers were originally “bland” (with no flanges) to allow the locomotives to pass through curves down to 350’ radius.

The design was obviously successful and several reorders were placed. It was so successful that years later, when World War II started, the Soviet government ordered more locomotives to essentially the same design!

[:I] More to follow !! [:I]

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and fellow Mentians, I'll have 2 light breakfasts please. Quite a Sunday photo-day yesterday ... I think. There was Rob's many photos (I especially liked the Grand River Railway M6 ... very unique!), Ted's layout (courtesy of Tom), Lars' and Tom's many dome pix ...which were impressibly indentified by Al, and a handy index of Sunday-photos-past, put together by our very own proprietor! We had a good day, I think, made even better by the active participation of our newest member, Lars! Well done guys !!

Thanks for the definitions of "Rule G" Tom! Do the track guys here know anything about it?

The following is a bit of information on the Chicago Tunnel Company (we seem to be talking a lot about mining recently ... and of domes ... of course) equipment you saw in my pix yesterday:

Chicago Tunnel Company – by Les Ascher and Dave Diamond - selections from 1996 November Rail & Wire

Soon after the turn of the century, a technological wonder was carved into the blue clay 40’ below the streets of Chicago. A system of railroad tunnels unlike any other in the world was created under each downtown street, utilizing the most advanced construction techniques available at the time. By 1909, a 62-mile grid of intersecting freight tunnels connected all major railroad freight houses and many commercial establishments in downtown Chicago.

Operating more than 3,000 diminutive freight cars and 100-plus electric locomotives on this network of two-foot gauge track, the Chicago Tunnel Company moved coal, ash, and merchandise throughout downtown. In addition, millions of cubic yards of excavation debris and cinders were hauled to landfill sites through the tunnels, creating what is now known as Grant Park.

Although is was intimately connected with the political and engineering history of the City of Chicago from 1900 until abandonment in 1959, few people ever saw this system, and virtually no artifacts have been preserved. The existence of the old tunnels finally became big news in 1992, when a contractor knocked a hole into the side of one of the bores, allowing the Chicago River to flood the tunnels and thereby many building basements in the downtown business district and the CTA State Street Subway.

For those interested in this fascinating system, the story of the Chicago Tunnel Company is told in detail in Bruce Moffat’s book, Forty Feet Below, available at the IRM bookstore.

In 1978, IRM members became aware that five cars and one electric locomotive remained intact, stranded in the short section of tunnel connecting to Chicago’s Field Museum of Natural History. The were used to deliver coal and remove ash and cinders from the Field Museum’s boiler room, which also supplied heat to the Shedd Aquarium and the Chicago Park District offices in Soldier Field.

Unlike most of the system’s deeper tunnels, this 400’ long section of tunnel had originally been built at ground level, beginning in about 1915. It extended east from a disposal station just east of the Illinois Central Railroad tracks. A connection was made with the rest of the tunnel system by means of elevators down to the normal 40’ depth and then by tunnels under the IC tracks. For several years, what was to become Grant Park was being filled by material hauled through the Chicago Tunnel System and brought to the surface by these elevators. By 1921, Grant Park was filled to about 11’ above this tunnel, the current grade of Lake Shore Drive.

In 1957, the entire Tunnel System was abandoned and the electricity was turned off, stranding the locomotive and five ash cars in this short section under Lake Shore Drive. The City of Chicago took control of the tunnels, and by 1959 a scrapper had disposed of most of the rolling stock, and other valuable equipment, such as the copper trolley wire, in the main tunnel system. Later, the elevator hoist house was removed and the shafts were capped and covered over, but the equipment east of the elevators remained intact in the spur tunnel. We believe that no other cars from the tunnel system have been saved, other than the two flatcars removed by IRM personnel in 1983 from beneath the now-demolished Steele-Wedeles Warehouse (Rail & Wire; December, 1984). According to Bruce Moffat’s book, the locomotive, number 508, is a 1906-1908 era Baldwin two-motor electric which ran on 250 volts DC. Two of the five ash cars are believed to be of similar vintage.

Resembling a scene from an Indiana Jones movie, locomotive 508 and ash car 532 are exposed to the afternoon sun for the first time in many decades.


After asbestos removal, car 653 is lifted onto a waiting IRM semi for a trip to Union. Dave Diamond directs the “pick”.


Our locomotive and ash cars, currently on display at IRM


[:I] ... as always ... humbly submitted for your entertainment [:I]

[trolleyboy]

One last stick for this week. All these shots are from the museum's HCRR's historical collection.



Large Brill Witt ( Canadian Brill aka Preston Car and Coach 1921 ) and Harvey trailor on Bloor Danforth Line



Weston Road car EX Toronto Civic 202 built by Niles. (1917) On Weston road Line 1948



Ex TRC TR double truck car sister to museum's 1326 at Russell Carhouse 1937



TTC Y series yard shunter ( trailer movers ) at Hillcrest shops in early 50's



Brantford Street Railway double truck arge Preston ( 1917 ) at Brantford carbarn 1939



NS&T curve sider ( Cincinati Car Co ) car 303. In St Catharines in 1941. Car was built in 1922

Enjoy Rob

[trolleyboy]

Evening Tom ( aka the calvalry [;)][tup][:D]

Another quick stick of pics while it's still Sunday. Then I'll see all and chat tomorrow.



Small Witt 2894 climbing the grade into the east ( rock garden Loop at the museum ) You can catch a glimpse of te Meadowvale Shelter- which is an authentic relic of the Toronto Suburban Railway.



TRC 327 1893 type open car and TRC 1326 (1910 )in front of Rockwood station. This shot's from 1983 when 1326 was still in regular service at the museum. The insulbrick is still on the station at this point as well.



Grand River Railway railbonder ( 600v arch welder on wheels )



Grand River Railway line truck M6 ( formerly a Pepsi Delivery truck )



Small Witt 2894 and Grinder W 28. July of 2005



Our museums TTC suburban car 416 while in service. At Glen Echo Toronto summer 1948 (watson/hcrr collection )
enjoy
Rob

[siberianmo]

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THIS POST IS INSULTING and UNWORTHY OF OUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT!

from page 221:

QUOTE: Posted: 15 Jan 2006, 11:03:43

The Baltimore Peter Witt with the sloped windscreen was built in 1929, not 1919!

Not so much what was said, but the manner in which it was said![tdn] Another interloper bites the dust! [xx(]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

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[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s a bit more on a subject that we’ve been talking about lately at the bar: Part II of II

(from: www.trainweb.org)


Note: If this doesn’t enlarge, click on the URL:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Dome%20cars/413f56cd.jpg

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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[LoveDomes]

Good Day!

Here’s a few more dome pix for this Sunday Pix Post Fest:

Wabash #200 (1956, Moberly, MO) {from: www.trainweb.org}



#200 as Amtrak #9560 (1972, Newport News, VA) (from: www.trainweb.org)



Former Wabash #201 as N&W #1611 (from: www.trainweb.org)


Former Wabash #201 as Amtrak #9561(from: www.trainweb.org)



NFL Sunday is about to begin, may or may not return![swg]

Lars

[daveklepper]

The Baltimore Peter Witt with the sloped windscreen was built in 1929, not 1919!

In 1919, the Baltimore system was still buying deck-roof Brill semiconvertables, some equipped for mu operation (up to three cars) on the Sparows Point Line.

These were red and cream two-man cars. When converted to one-man, with treadle exist doors, they were repainted yellow and cream to seperate them from the cars remaining two-man, including the mu's.

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Enjoyed your photo montage of the domes this AM so looked like a challenge to me to identify them so here they are.
Clockwise from the twelve o'clock position.

Budd built CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR Dome sleeper lounge observation.

Pullman Standard built CN Sceneramic Dome operated in SUPER CONTINENTAL or PANORAMA trains . Originally built for the CMST&P and assigned to MORNING HIAWATHA, AFTERNOON HIAWATHA and OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA.

AC&F or P/S built dome operated by Alaska Railroad originally UP Dome coach assigned to CITY STREAMLINERS or CHALLENGER.

Interior of French built dome coach RDC type or German built dome coach operated in the RHINE at one time?

VIA Rail Canada Budd built Park car Dome sleeper Lounge Observation originally built for CPR CANADIAN and DOMINION. Now operated by VIA in CANADIAN and OCEAN.

BN Business car conversion of GLACIER PARK operated as track inspection car now operated in BNSF Business Fleet originallly GN Budd built Great Dome Lounge assigned to EMPIRE BUILDERS between Seattle and Chicago.

Anoither VIA RAIL CANADA PARK car see previous PARK car

UP Business fleet domes originally built by Pullman Standard or AC&F and assigned to CITY STREAMLINERS and CHALLENGER. Reason for calling it business fleet is none of UP CITY trains operated with more than three domes.

Inset shows a GN Great Dome coach built by Budd

Night View of VIA RAIL CANADA PARK car

CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR SILVER LOOKOUT a Dome Sleeper Lounge Observation (difficult to tell but looks like this is how it appears today in private ownership)

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s something from Theodorebear Ted featuring his ongoing efforts in building an HO layout:


A work in progress; looks like a top-level trolley run and a park setting:


A work in progress; upper and lower levels – West Bottom:


A work in progress; note the turnout (switch) in tunnel:


A work in progress; check out the roundtable location and rights-of-way taking shape!



Thanx, Ted for sharing these with us and we look forward to MORE installments for future Sunday Photo Posting Days![tup][tup]


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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[LoveDomes]

Good Morning Tom,

So the bar is closed on Sunday's, nevertheless this is a good idea to keep things moving while maintaining our interests.

Allow me to provide a few offerings (previously posted over on your other thread yesterday):

GN #1320 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1321 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1322 (from: www.trainweb.org)


GN #1323 (from: www.trainweb.org)


Don't you just love those domes?

I'll try to post a few more, but today is NFL football Sunday in my house.[swg] That's one day the wife can always know where I am, without having to wonder or search![}:)]

Lars

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Here’s something a bit different, but on a subject that we’ve been talking about lately at the bar: Part I of II

(from: www.trainweb.org)


Note: If this doesn’t enlarge, click on the URL:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Dome%20cars/25234c21.jpg


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


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[Anonymous]

Chicago & North Western 7700
Builder: American Car & Foundry Company
Year Built: 1923
Seats: 70
Length: 80ft 10in
Width: 10ft 3in
Height: 13ft 6in
Weight: ??? lbs
Brakes: UC
Trucks: 4 Wheel
Description: Lightweight Coach/Baggage


Chicago Transit Authority 6656
Builder: St. Louis Car Company
Year Built: 1957
Seats: 51
Length: 48ft
Width: 9ft 4in
Height: 11ft 10in
Weight: 45000 lbs
Brakes: All Electric
Motors: 4 WH 1432LK
Control: B2A-XDA1G
Trucks: StL B3
Description: Single End / Double Truck / Arch Roof / PCC


Southern Pacific 1518
Builder: Electro Motive Division GM
Model: SD-7
Horsepower: 1500
Length: 60ft 8 in
Width: 10ft 8in
Height: 14ft 1in
Brakes: 24RL
Engine: 16-645CE
Motors: 6 EMD
Trucks: EMD C
Description: Diesel-Electric / First SD Series Built


Union Refrigerator Transit 75524
Builder: General American Transportation
Year Built: 1950
Length: 43ft 5in
Width: 10ft 2in
Height: 13ft 8in
Weight: 64400 lbs
Brakes: AB
Trucks: Barber
Description: Steel Reefer / American Beef Packers


General American Pfaudler Corp. 1021
Builder: General American Transportation
Year Built: 1947
Length: 51ft 5in
Width: 9ft 11in
Height: 13ft 2in
Weight: 74900 lbs
Brakes: U-12
Trucks: Barber
Description: Steel Milk Car


Union Pacific Railroad 907149
Builder: Union Pacific
Year Built: 1939
Length: 40ft 8in
Width: 9ft 9in
Height: 13ft 1in
Weight: 57200 lbs
Brakes: AB
Trucks: Sym Gould Hi-Speed
Description: Hi-Speed Express Box Car / Class B50-25 (Ex 9195)


Chicago Burlington & Quincy 204738
Builder: CB&Q
Year Built: ???
Weight: 65000 lbs
Trucks: 4 Wheel (Single)
Description: Scale Test Car

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

Ever wonder about those fine pix that have been Posted during past Sunday Photo Posting Days! [?] The guys who took the time and made the effort to provide one and all with some enjoyable pix deserve to have their work preserved. So, here’s something you may want to “bookmark” for future use:

INDEX: 2005 Sunday Photo Posting Days!

Begins on: . . . . . click on the URL

Page 112, 18 Sep 2005 First Photo Posting Sunday!
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=112&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 118, 25 Sep 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=118&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 124, 02 Oct 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=124&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 132, 09 Oct 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=132&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 138, 16 Oct 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=138&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 144, 23 Oct 2005
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Page 150, 30 Oct 2005
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Page 156, 06 Nov 2005
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Page 161, 13 Nov 2005
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Page 168, 20 Nov 2005
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Page 175, 27 Nov 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=168&TOPIC_ID=35270

Page 182, 04 Dec 2005
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Page 188, 11 Dec 2005
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Page 195, 18 Dec 2005
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=195&TOPIC_ID=35270

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[Anonymous]

Union Pacific Railroad 900075
Builder: Lima
Year Built: 1949
Length: 104ft 9in
Width: 12ft 1in
Height: 16ft 5in
Weight: 303000 lbs
Brakes: 6ET
Trucks: General Steel Casting
Description: Rotary Snow Plow & Tender


Maryland MARC 91
Builder: Electro Motive Division GM
Year Built: 1953
Model: E-9AM
Horsepower: 2400
Length: 70ft 3in
Width: 10ft 6in
Height: 14ft
Weight: 340000 lbs
Brakes: PS-68
Engine: Two 12-645CE
Motors: 4 EMD
Trucks: EMD A1A
Description: Diesel-Electric (MARC 91 / ex MARC 67 / ex BN 9907 / ex BN 9973 / nee CB&Q 9973)



Chicago Tunnel Company 508
Builder: Baldwin / Westinghouse
Year Built: 1908
Length: 10ft 11in
Width: 3ft 7in
Height: 5ft 2in
Weight: 15000 lbs
Brakes: Hand
Motors: 2 WH 155
Control: WH K11
Trucks: Single
Description: Single End / Single Truck / Tunnel Locomotive


Chicago Burlington & Quincy 9911A
Builder: Electro Motive Corporation
Year Built: 1940
Model: E-5A
Horsepower: 2000
Length: 80ft
Width: 10ft 6in
Height: 14ft
Weight: 314800 lbs
Brakes: HSC-D22ER
Engine: Two 12-567A
Motors: EMD D17 / 3 EMD D27
Trucks: EMD A1A
Description: Diesel-Electric / Silver Pilot (Ex C&S 9952A)


Green Bay & Western 2407
Builder: ALCO
Year Built: 1959
Model: RSD-15
Horsepower: 2400
Length: 66ft 7in
Width: 10ft 1in
Height: 14ft 11in
Weight: 382400 lbs
Brakes: 26C
Engine: 16-251B
Motors: 6 GE 752
Trucks: Tri-Mount
Description: Diesel-Electric / Ex Santa Fe 841


Association of American Railroads X201
Builder: Buda
Year Built: 1936
Length: 22ft 4in
Width: 9ft 10in
Height: 10ft 4in
Weight: 22000 lbs
Brakes: Bendix
Trucks: Buda
Description: Rail Test Car


Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee 160
Builder: J. G. Brill Company
Year Built: 1915
Seats: 58
Length: 56ft 1in
Width: 8ft 8in
Height: 12ft 6in
Weight: 90300 lbs
Brakes: AMU
Motors: 4 WH 557A5
Control: HLF-28A
Compressor: CP-28
Trucks: Brill 27MCB3X
Description: Double End / Double Truck / Arch Roof / Steel Coach