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[siberianmo]

Hello Al

What you are doing with your grandchildren is precisely what needs to be done - inclucate them with the love of trains. I do the same. Have 5 grandkids, one is definitely "hooked," and another is on the way.[tup][tup]

Hockey[?] Love it! But,. unfortunately the St. Louis Blues of the NHL have ceased playing the game the way it was meant to be played. They are having one of the worst seasons ever, on the way to breaking the downward spiral record set back in 1978-79. What 's the name of the team you will see and what league is it in[?] These are TEST questions - just to see if you are reading the Posts![swg]

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.

My family is accusing me of brainwashing my five year old Grandson. He just sat with me and watched a 90 minute train video on the UP passenger trains and wanted to see more when it finished . We babysat for him from the time he was eight months and I have groomed him for trains from the beginning. No one believes that a five year old would care more for train videos than cartoons. I have bought a couple of small trains for him and guess for his next birthday its Lionel time.

Did the same for my daughter in Canada when she was about six and she was the envy of every boy in the neighborhood.

My daughter still has the Lionel set i set up for her all those years ago and will bring it out for the granddaughter she says in a couple more years. Unfortunately daughters husband does not share her love of trains.

I am going to post the Passengerfan Al's streamliner corner later this evening as I have Hockey tickets for tonights game. I haven't been to a live Hockey game since I left Toronto. Of course their are many out their that would question whether the Maple Leafs have ever been alive. We have a new miner leaque team and guess i'll have to support them.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Good Evenin’!

Funny thing about this “Feast or Famine Bar ‘n Grill” is that just when you think things are going downhill, there’s a glimmer of hope! The “parade of the not-so-regular regulars continues![swg]

I must repeat again, what happened to: Jlampke John & jdonald Don[?][?] Just when it appeared we had two dependable customers, gone-zo! [%-)][%-)]

Should make mention of my appreciation to the guys who continually make the effort to participate with inclusive and informative Posts. Check the SUMMARIES, it shouldn’t be difficult to cite just who they are.[tup][tup]

Some acknowledgments are in order:

Trainnut484 Russell
Posted: 19 Jan 2006, 14:59:59

I too was rooting for the Steelers, but perhaps not for the same reasons. Having a heart attack by a spectator over a play in football? Geesh, that’s a bit over the top.

We missed your fine pix this past Sunday, but perhaps you’ll find a way to come ‘round for this Sunday Photo Posting Day![tup]

earlydiesels Dan is now a member of the Legion of the Lost. We’ll be here if and when he decides to check in. Just hope he and everyone else who has long term absences, takes the time to check through the pages to catch up.

ftwNSengineer P
Posted: 19 Jan 2006, 15:52:11

Curious: Part II, eh[?] How many to go[?] Are you finding anything Posted ‘round here of interest[?]


I see Nick and Al out there in the shadows. C’mon in – after all it is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #60

Here’s something to enjoy regarding Great Britain’s LONDON & NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:

BRING HISTORY TO LIFE IN ENGLAND

Visit ancient York with its 1300-year old Minster; and Durham where likes the Venerable Bede, who died as he dictated the last words of the first translation of the Bible. Wander through the historic streets of Lincoln – headquarters of a Roman Legion during the Occupation – and Norwich, once the second city of England and still preserving many relics of medieval times. Visit Litchfield Cathedral renowned for its three beautiful spires, and put yourself back in the Middle Ages at Warwick Castle. See the old walls and picturesque streets of Chester. Look down from the battlements of those might castles that Edward I built at Caernarvon and Conway, and see what a task he had to conquer heroic Wales.

Every country of Great Britain speaks to you of your own ancestors. Travel through those countries by L M S and L N E R to the places you must have longed to see every since you first read a history book.

Illustrated Pamphlet from T. R. Dexter –
Vice-President, Passenger Traffic, (Dept. A 34)
L M S Corporation, 200 Fifth Avenue, New York City.
H. J. Kitchgin, General Agent, (Dept. A 34)
L N E R Railway, 11 West 42nd Street, New York City,
or from your own ticket agent.

L M S
LONDON MIDLAND & SCOTTISH RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN

LONDON & NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN
L*N*E*R


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

[red p]

Thanks Tom,
Im glad you enjoyed it Trollyboy

And now for part two of our story.

Matta Figured the rear car brakes had remained off while the normal air pressure was in the train line; but when air had leaked out and could not be replaced from the engine, the brakes automatically had begun to take hold.

At any rate, it was an easy matter to open the valve again,which Matta did. In a few minutes all of the brakes released. Conductor Ward, puzzled as to the cause of the trouble, was working his way forward,examining the brakes and other equipment of each car. Before he reached the troublesome thrid car he was told the difficulty had been found.The flagman was whistled in and the Federal proceeded,56 minutes late.Matta promply made up 11 minutes of the loss inthe 86-mile streach to New Haven,Conn. using the brakes several times and they worked just fine.

At New Haven the diesels came off and an electric locomotive was added. Matta, the diesel engineer, switched his unit off without seeing Conductor Ward- who was going on to New York- or the new engineer. but this does not necessarily seem to be a dangerous act. The first engineer on the New Haven discovered the closed angle ****, and subsequent use of the brakes indicated that he had satisfactorily remedied the cause of the brakes sticking on the rear cars. He had no reason to believe that his experience would be of value to other crews of the train on its way to Washington, nor was he required to make such a report.

Two sleepers and a coach were added to the federal at New Haven, bringing the consist up to 16 cars. While his men were making their inspection of the train, Cheif Car Inspector William Pennapaker asked Ward why he was so late. Ward explained that the brakes on the rear pullmans were sticking. Pennapaker says he was not told about the closed angle ****. However, he and his assistants madean extra check of all the brakes and found everything in order. He was certain that all angle cocks were checked.

With Engineer John Rowland at the throttle, the Federal raced down the 4-track Shore Line. Blue sparks from the catenary lighting up the dark Connecticut countyside. Clipping minute after minute off the Kingston handicap, Rowland popped out of the East River tube into Penn. Station, New York at 4:28a.m. only 38 minutes late. During the 75 mile trip he applied the brakes 14 times and they functioned perfectly.

P

[siberianmo]

BlueAngel17

Try the Model Railroad forum for you questions. The "Coffee Shop" may be a good first stop.

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[BlueAngel17]

By the way, does anyone have any older magazines they don't want with bridges, tunnels and mountains in them that I can get or maybe you will give me to help me get started? Doug

[BlueAngel17]

Hi new here and want to learn more about trains. Favorites to collect and use on home layouts. All opinions are valued and good ones. Thanks , Doug

[Trainnut484]

Good afternoon Tom and all who plead guilty. Too early for a brew, so I’ll have a Coca-Cola.

Sorry I missed out on last Sunday’s Photo Day spread. I was too busy cheering for the Steelers. Apologies to the Colts or Patriots fans who might be reading this, but I’m tired of hearing Peyton Manning this, or Brady that. Great quarterbacks and teams, but this year is not their year to win the BIG GAME. There was a report about a Steeler’s fan that had a heart attack, or chest pains, when Bettis “The Bus” fumbled his last carry. I almost had one myself. Here’s a link to the story:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2005/01/17/bc.fbn.heart.stoppingst.ap/

A little [#offtopic] above so here’s to a round for the house on me.

Tom, great job on the encores and the passenger train nostalgias. It’s always good to read them again in case something was overlooked before. Forgive me for finding this very funny, Tom, the caption “Can you see me?” under your VIA Observation pic taken either at dusk or dawn at the top of your posts reminds me of the Verizon Wireless guy’s “Can you hear me now”? And no, I can’t see you [(-D]. That’s a hefty list of your Can-AM roster. I’ve tried to do an inventory of my modest HO collection, but I’m easily distracted by coming across unbuilt kits that I have plans to “some day” fini***hem.

Anyone know about earlydiesels Dan’s whereabouts?

CM3, the story about the old Armour-plated carriage from that BBC link you supplied was intriguing. I myself would like to walk along the “graveyard” of old cars and locomotives. Also, to have steam still around to fill-in for those “60-year-old diesels” that might break down is amazing.

P, that PC drink list is a nice touch to “Our” place. I wonder if some of those choices will appear on the bar menu? Hint-Hint-wink-wink to Tom. Great job on the Fed Ex story and looking forward to Pt 2.

Rob, I favored Athearn BB stuff when I was a newbie to the hobby years ago, but now P2K, Kato, and Stewart fit the bill. Although, I do have some Athearn Genesis locomotives. They are hard to beat (in plastic) for details. Someone labeled them as “brass-killers.” No argument from me. I think Athearn’s BB line is good for those who are new to the hobby, and don’t want to splurge for the higher-end stuff.

That’s it for now. Take care,

Russell

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Story telling time at the neighborhood bar 'n grill![swg] A teaser from P and a Classic Juice from Rob! Well done boyz.[tup] Have one on me!

Rob I don't know anyone who has traveled the Rocky Mountaineer more than once. We surely must be doing something "wrong," you know like - eating, paying the bills, keeping one step ahead of it all, etc.[swg] Well, it's really not THAT bad, but I can't ever see spending those kinds of dollars for a "plastic experience." Nope.

I'll ship you my thoughts regarding Churchill by Email.[tup]

Speaking of Athearn I recall getting into a "flap" of sorts on the Forums regarding someone's topic about the demise of the blue boxes, etc. I chimed in with some thoughts paralleling lots of others with regard to the overpriced "stuff" being put out these days. Man oh man did that ring someone's chimes. I thought the guy was going to go apoplectic on the thread. I mean he was mightly upset. Of course, this just 'enabled' me a bit more, so I rang his bell again, and again .... [swg] Crazy, eh[?] All over an opinion regading model trains![wow]

Later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Okay part two of the condensed versions of CP's ontario electrics

CLASSIC JUICE #18 THE LAKE ERIE & NORTHERN

The LE&N was a late commer as far as electric lines in Ontario go. It was concieved in 1910 to run from Galt to Port Dover, in an attenmpt by the CPR to develope a ferry connection to cross Lake Erie. It's route took it through Galt and along the East bank og the Grand River to Paris , where it passed under the GT. It then proceeded south through Brantford to Waterford,where it crossed the TH&B and the Canda Southern ( NYC) on a high level bridge. From here it angled to the southeasterly to Simcoe amd then to Port Dover on Lake Erie where it originallu used the GT station until permission to do this was withdrawn.

LE&N was a 1500v line using poles not pans as the L&PS did. They used a brick CPR plan station at Mount Pleasant and in Paris, and for Port Dover they used an international plane station similar to the GRR's at Galt. The LE&N shared the GRR's Galt station ( passenger could transfer easily line to line as both were CPR properties ). At Glen Morris they used an old stone house ( still there today ) while in Brantford they used an impressive two level station,with street entraanc above for cars ans the tracks below ( Market street on the Grand river now a parking garage for the Casino )This station was shared with the Brantford and Hamilton Radial railway ( classic juice #4 ) Which was a chore as the B&H ws a 600v line so only one company could have their cars in the station at a time,the overhead in the station could be switched powerwise depending on who was using it at the time. Besides 14 station stops the LE&N also served 35 flag stops along their route. ( small lean to shelters only )

Unlike the hourly service used by the GRR, the LE&N ran every two hours. In 1950 CPR applied for discontinuance of passenger service buit were refused.When this happened they (CPR) altered the timetable and built in inconvienient connections with the GRR and TH&B etc. The passemger counts then of coarse declined imediatly and abandonment was granted in 1955.

According to CPR practice most stations and flag stops were removed only the Mount pleasant and Port Dover stations survive.After passenger servive was discontinued electric freight operations did continue for a time. The line between simcoe and Port Dover was abandoned in 1962,the line between Branyford and Waterford in 1965 ( bcame a TH&B line then washed out in the 70's ) The sections between Galt and Brantford and Waterford and Simcoe lasted until the 1990's when they were finally abandioned. The freight service was deisilized after 1961and all overhead was taken down.

You can see most of the ROW from Brantford to Galt and Paris along HWY 24.

Unlike the GRR 90% of the LE&N's roling stock was wood interurbans passenger and combine cars. Like the GRR all were mu capable and they ran 32 to six car trains depending on the passenger levels. Only combine car 797 survives today ( Preston Car and Coach built in 1917 ) it is currently under restoration at our museum.

Enjoy Rob

[trolleyboy]

Morning Tom, a large coffee and one light breakfast this morning I think < got to loose the winter lard dontchaknow >

My take on Boris is that no matter who fathered or created him[:0][;)],he is now the "ward" of Our Place,so as such we who created him must be nice and house and feed him/it/whatever.

I hear you about Athearn, I likely told you why my favourite hobbyshop here in Brantford stopped selling their wears. The new owners wanted at least a comitment to $10K of product a year from them to ship to Canada. Needlesstosay they took a pass. This is due to there being no Canadian agent or official distributor for Horizon hobbies. Essentiaally once all the local distributors up here run out of their stuff they can get no more.

Those prices for the Mountaineer are on the verge of insanity,[:(!] yet I know of at least 10 couples that have gone on it numerous times. It's just being treated like a landlocked cruise ship [tdn][:(!] not for me.

Churchill is still a possibility for me,we would likley drive to Winterpeg to meet up,even at today's gas prices it's cheaper than flying from Pearson or Hamilton.

P Nice bit of penmenship there sir,seems more of a halooween type post though. Waiting for the next insatllment. Our museum runs with Rule G as well,full set of regs actually as we do transport members of the public,all our crews have to pass written exams on the rules every three years and must qualify on each vehicle type they operate.

CM3 Aww I can smell the pine needles to salt air and see the Palms waving as the train pulls into Miami. You sir are a poet [bow] Allow me to catch you and everyone else a round once the bars able to serve the heavier stuff.[:p]

Hopefully Sir Nick entices us with a wonderous feast this evening. I'm hopping for a nice Atlantic Cod dish of some sort. [dinner]

Rob

[red p]

Hello Tom and the rest of the gang. Start me off with a black coffee and an order of biscuits and gravy.

I found this little story from the Aug.1953 Trains and Travel.

The Federal Express ..........part one

It was the night of Jan. 14, 1953,11:00 Oclock.#173 The Federal Express, Was on time for its 459-mile 8-hour 40-min. overnight run to the nations capital. But at 8:38 a.m. at Union Terminal in Washington the Federal was to turn into a hurtling juggernaut, a train out of control.

Inspectors found nothing wrong during its 15 min. stop at Providence. It pulled out of the depot at 12:05 a.m. on time
but the flagman noticed a few sharp jerks, brakes were sticking somewhere in the train. It seemed to be on the rear two cars. He told conductor Ralph Ward, Who pulled the communicating cord. The federal ground to a stop at Kingston swamp, 27 miles out of Providence.

Ward made a rapid check along his train.The brakes on the two rear cars were very hot. He bled them off and signaled for a series of brake tests. meanwhile engineer Matta sent the fireman back to see what was going on. the fireman decided that everything was all right and returned to the engine,telling Matta that it was o.k. to go ahead. But the train wouldnt budge.

Matta himself left the engine and found that the brakes on the first three cars were released but the rest were jammed. He soon located the trouble, the angle **** was closed at the rear of the third car.The angle **** is the valve which closes the main brake pipe at each end of the car.With the valve closed, the brakes behind the third car were inoperative. Something or someone had closed the valve since the Federal had left
providence.

P

[siberianmo]

G'day passengerfan Al

I followed my own instructions - stuck around after my Post, and there was yours! Works every time!

We have kicked around a trip to Churchill on these pages, a few times. It is a grand idea, but I seriously doubt that a Rendezvous in the "official" sense would work, given the expense of it all. We're not really knocking down the doors with our trip to Toronto, ya know. Anyway, I'm all for a trip to Churchill and have been from the first time I "discovered" it. We CAN DO THIS! Just a matter of communicating by Email so that nothing gets lost in the shuffle - as happens so many times on the thread.

We'll set the date for our 2nd Rendezvous when we meet this May. Figure that's the best way to handle it. We may even have a couple of choices to "throw out there" for the rest of the guys to think about.

My plans have been to take the round trip by train rather than fly up. Figure spending one night up there is all I'd need. One could actually stay the day and return that evening on the same train that brought you. Depends on what you're looking to do. I'm more interested in the ride.[swg] Again, good stuff for Email. Thanx for bringing it up.[tup][tup]

Figured if anyone knew about that Budd Dome model, it would be you![swg]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

Bright blue sky, temps expected to be in the 60s (F) and the feeling of spring is in the air! What a crazy January this is![swg]

To all who have sent Emails to me regarding the “hot button issue” of yesterday, thanx for your comments and support.[tup]

Some acknowledgments this fine day:

passengerfan Al
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 21:10:14

The craftsmen of yesteryear who were responsible for so much of what many take for granted may never be replaced in kind. Those skills, as with the need for them, simply fade into history as will the fine passenger cars you mentioned.

barndad Doug
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 21:22:38

Thought you were out “goofing off,” ya know, working and things like that![swg] Glad to see you back at the bar.[tup]

As the circumpolar people (Inuit, Inupiat, etc) would have it, undoubtedly that “word” has meaning. These are the same folks who have over 100 words for “snow” but none for “sin.” Think about it! (The study of those living above the Arctic circle was one of my prime study areas in my Anthropology pursuits …..)[tup]

Check out this URL: http://tundratimes.ilisagvik.cc/chipp/html/keyword.htm#I

Unlike the “word” recently Posted by CM3 Fatyernnon which means, “I got my fingers stuck between the keys and this is what came out!”[swg]

Your Russian Decapod “stuff” is very informative. Still think Posting the first part was “lost” for many as it was a Saturday “thing,” and we all know how weekends are – especially long ones.

trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 23:21:21

No more purchases for the Can-Am – it is saturated now. Only exception might be something for the display case. I’m turned off with Athearn in recent times and don’t plan on donating any of my retirement money to this outfit. They lost guys like me years ago in their quest to “upscale’ virtually everything; blue box guy that I am![swg]

Once again I spent too much of my time browsing web sites yesterday. I’d like to meet the person who put together the Algoma Central’s web page. My Gawd, what a joke to navigate. Took me a long time to figure out that: (1) dome cars are only in use for the excursion trains, not the regularly scheduled passenger runs; (2) lodging arrangements are a hodge-podge; (3) trying to figure out flights from Pearson to the Sault is a puzzle and (4) the schedule for the excursion runs begin too late in June for the “window” we have for travel. Some other time, looks like it would be fun, just not now.

Also checked out the Rocky Mountaineer for an 8-day roundtrip out of Vancouver. Four days aboard the train – all the nights in hotels. Costs: nearly 10 grand for two! And that DOES NOT include GST, PST, LSMFT, and FT (figure out the last one on your own![swg] Then throw in air fare from here to there and back, meals, tips, etc. and this becomes something so far out of the question that it makes me want to head for the lee side of the ship! BARF![tdn] Not only outrageous, but I find it absolutely insulting to think that there are mobs of people throwing that kind of money around – and more. In my wildest spending sprees, it ain’t gonna be me![tdn] DOUBLE BARF!

<phew> Feel better after that![swg]

In the “history” of Boris, if you recall, wanswheel Mike corrected me a few pages ago when he cited the page number where Ted “created” Boris There’s been a succession of things involving him, mainly from Nick – but we must point to Ted as the “daddy!” DNA checks anyone[?][:O]

coalminer3 CM3
Posted: 19 Jan 2006, 08:17:05

Of course Awk is here – sitting on his perch, or my shoulder, whichever he so chooses![swg] By the by, he made his “appearance” is a recent Post – twice in fact. Hmmmmmmm.

Good “stuff” on SCL check out:

Atlantic Coast Line: (scroll down)
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=114&TOPIC_ID=35270

Seaboard Air Line: (scroll down)
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=115&TOPIC_ID=35270

Haven’t yet been “introduced” to this Sponge Bob “stuff,” and can’t say that I’m anxious! I’m sure the day will come, especially when I visit my grandkids in VA.[swg]

Sailor talk is my kindatalk! Right, Awk [?] Right, Mate, right! Awk-fwee-fooo![swg]

Thanx for the round and of course the coins for Coal Scuttle![tup]


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


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[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for coffee and thats all this AM as my better half says its time for me to lose the holiday plump.

Coalminer3 In answer to your question about the Budd Dome car model. It was located across the Colorado River from the D&RGW right of way through Glenwood Canyon.
Today it resides at the Colorado Rail Museum in Boulder Colorado a fitting place for it to be. It was a tribute to the California Zephyr. I remember seeing it many times and each time it seemed like it had a few more dents from rock throwers and other things vandals did to it. I don't know why some people get their kicks out of destroying things others enjoy. It was certainly worth saving and I personally am glad it resides at the museum today. By the way it is one of the better rail museums in the country. Well worth a visit.

Tom Just had an idea for the second get together how about a rail trip from Winnipeg to Churchill, everyone I have talked to who ever made the trip raved about it and I am not sure how much longer it will last. Passengers can fly into Churchill and so the train may be on the hit list. I understand it still operates a Park car.

TTFN Al

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and All Assembled; coffee for me, round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Let's play the Delmore Brothers "Wreck on the Virginian," another happy train wreck ditty.

I raised the Budd dome question awhile back. To the best pf my recollection, there was an outdoor display model of a Budd dome car somewhere along the route of the CZ.
What's left of my memory seems to tell me it was along the D&RG segment of the route. I KNOW I have a picture of it somewhere (I think?)

My compliments on the "Dominion" post. There was always something interesting abt the so-called "secondary" trains as they seemed to have varied consists.

Sailor talk? Reminds me of the line from Spongebob (the younger set at the house tipped me off to this one). "If you're going to talk like sailors, you're going to work like sailors."

Speaking of things nautical, is the parrot back? I may be the only one who has missed him.

I diodn't know that Disaster on the Coastliner was playing at the theeater. How about seeing if you can book "Shadow of a Doubt." This one was made in 1943 and stars Joseph Cotton - he'll scare the !@#$ out of you. The railroad link is that several scenes were filmed on the SP with steam in abundance. Seriously, if you haven't seen this one, make sure you catch it sometime - it shows up every now and then on TCM. Second feature might be another Joseph Cotton picture (and one of my favorites), "The Third Man."

BTW, the last time I heard the music from this was during one of the Mentor Village Pro Musica's holiday performances featuring Boris on the zither (or was it a band saw?)

How about the following (Seaboard Coast Line 1969) to get you up and out of your chair?

"For $21 we'll rent you a room that's here today, in Miami tomorrow.

Your room between New York and Miami on the Silver Meteor costs about the same as a night in a motel ($21, plus low coach fare). Only $18 between New York and St. Petersburg on the Champion.

It's your for privacy and relaxation throughout the trip. And when you're ready, you can also go for a stroll, eat a leisurely dinner, or enjoy your favorite beverage in our lounge car. How else can you get a good night's sleep and wake up 600 miles closer to your vacation?"

Here's another one, again from SCL.

"Our Trains Feature Good Restauarants with Changing Views.

Join us for a hearty breakfast. Or simple snack. Or five course dinner. Then linger over a cup of coffee and chat as you roll across country.

SCL - Seaboard Coast Line Railroad"

work safe

[siberianmo]

Does anyone see me[?]

THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM, all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Nearing the end of the work week for many! Time to pour a hot cup of freshly brewed coffee and try our <light> and <traditional> breakfasts. Don’t forget the freshly baked pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!


Daily Wisdom

The similarities between my father and me are different. (Yogi-ism) Is anyone reading these[?]


Info for the Day:

* Weekly Calendar: Does anyone care[?]

Today is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday Pizza Nite! & Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite!


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 05:28:21 (223) Wednesday’s Info & Summary

(2) wanswheel Mike Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 05:34:12 (223) AM URLs, etc.

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 08:06:40 (223) reply to wanswheel, etc.

(4) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 08:12:10 (223) Covered the bases Post!

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 08:21:46 (223) Inclusive Post, etc.

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 08:59:14 (223) AM commentary!

(7) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 10:42:57 (223) Inclusive Post, etc.

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 11:35:27 (223) Acknowledgments, etc.

(9) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 12:54:43 (223) URL

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 14:23:09 (223) Pike Perspective’s Day! Locos of the Can-Am

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 15:18:58 (223) Last Call: RR Book Relay!

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 16:17:48 (223) Special for Nick

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 19:56:20 (223) Inclusive Post, etc.

(14) ftwNSengineer P Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 19:56:51 (223) He’s baaaaaaaack! Rule G, etc.

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 20:48:35 (224) Acknowledgments, etc.

(16) ftwNSengineer P Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 20:52:25 (224) Menu

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 21:01:00 (224) reply to P

(18) passengerfan Al Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 21:10:14 (224) etc.

(19) barndad Doug Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 21:22:38 (224) Inclusive Post, Russian Decapods, Part II

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 23:21:21 (224) Inclusive Post, etc.


NOW SHOWING at The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre: Is anyone interested[?]

. . . January 16th thru 21st: Disaster on the Coastliner (1979-TV) starring Lloyd Bridges, Raymond Burr & Robert Fuller.


That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[trolleyboy]

Good evening gentlemen. Leon sir a round for the assembled if you please.

Tom An interesting grouping of equipment to be sure. I'm supprised that you have yet to aquire one of the Athearn Via Genesis units. One see's them on occastion still in some of our hobby shops up here,maybe you will find one in may.

You may have to bite the bullet and drive into the Sault to do one of those Algoma trips. If you do book a trip on them spend the extra few bucks and get a dome car seat ( like you wouldn't anyway ). When you book a dome on them they set you up one way on the trip up top and the other way on the bottom. Last time I was on only those with dome tickets were allowed in the dome cars as well.[tup]

I would say book the bar job on monster.com,but then I thought that that was maybe how Nick came accross Boris. I suppose you could just give the other girls a chance, you know work your way through and see who [s] fills out [/u] fills the position the best.[;)]


Al Wonderfull detail on the Dominion sir [bow] Those Angus shop built cars were things of beauty. At least several have been preserved up here in various museum collections. I think CP still has some as well in their, corporate business train and for use on the Royal Candian Pacific charter trains.


Doug Another fine installment on the Decapods. Seeing as it's still Pike perspective day did you folks know that Bachman manufactured the Russian decapod in it's spectrum steam line a few years back. Very good runners they even had the : blind drivers on them.

Glad you liked the GRR story and no Al and I are not in Cahoots just a similar thought the same day I suppose. Our museum has a few relics from the GRR bonder M4, line truck M6, locomotive 335 which was also used on the Cornwall street railway as # 17 and earlier than that on sister road LE&N as 228. I don't know of any of the GRR's passenger stock surviving, I know CP tried to get buyers in the US for them but they were set up for 1500v overhead and there was no takers. We do have combine car 797 from sister route LE&N though,the Lake Erie and Northern, will be a later juice piece.

Nick Good to see you more regularly sir ( also good because Boris cooks less now that your back [:O][XX(]. Don't just use my Juice picks for navigating TO becaus ein many cases the streets aren't the same anymore. Wouldn't want you to get lost in the shuffle.Coarse you might run into the Stones as they seem to come to Toronto quite regularly to practice up for tours and such.Knew you were joking about the recording of the concert. I'm rather on the fence about that whole issue myself,need to see how it all shakes out I suppose.

Well Boris ring up another round . Leon set em up for everyone.

Rob

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have a bottlemless draught, and allow me to buy a round for the house. Looks like "Our Place" has been plenty busy since my last visit Mondy morning. Looks like everyone has been here except for me! Yes Tom, I do read the Dailey Wisdoms, and enjoy them very much. Thank-You for providing them. Thanks also for the Nostalgia adds for the NP and NYC, as well as the Bangor and Aroostook encore. You really do a great job of keeping this thread well supplied with subjects to discuss. Does "Ikpikpuk" mean anything?

Ted, I seem to recall the CTC documentary as well, though I might just be remembering all the noise around here when the Chicago River flooded several building basements when the tunnels flooded. Chicago has a history of flooding and going to battle with the river.

Nice piece on the S.I.R.T. Lars. I think you fit in just fine here, and hope you'll continue to be a part of our little group.

Nick, I look forward to your pix on the Royal Navy Armaments. Did you find them?

Mike, thanks for your numerous contributions. You really have a way of pouncing on whatever is being discussed, and then digging out the information no matter what the subject. I really enjoyed the Last Electric Interurban post, and as usual, your incredible URL selections. Really good stuff!

AL, fine job on your CPR posts. They complimented Rob's as if the two of you were in cahoots. Great Grand River Railways info Mr. Rob.

Then there was CM3's information on the South Shore, and please forgive me, but someone mentioned the rimless wheels on the Decapods ... and yes ...it is the inside driving wheels so that the loco can make the curves. Speaking of which .... here is part II in the series!

A Brief History of Russian Decapods – by Thomas J. Schneider and Hugh R. Harris – selected from November 1996 Rail & Wire

Train 21 departs Harrisville en route to Springfield. The Decapods were used on this line as they were very “light footed” and easy on track. Photo collection of Don Wirth.


The first Decapods ordered in 1914, were shipped in 1915. Locomotives were built by Baldwin Locomotive Works and Alco (at both the Brooks and Schenectady Plants) with additional units from the Canadian Locomotive Company. These orders, starting in 1914, were to re-equip the state railroads of Russia. Specific orders for Decapods by year are listed in Table II.



In May of 1917 the Russian government notified the United States government through the US Ambassador in Moscow, or their desire to order another 2,000 Decapods. In June of 1917, Professor Lomonosoff of the Russian Mission discussed the need in Russia for another 2,000 Decapods in meetings with the American press in Washington. The order was cabled to the federal government in October of 1917, and in November, 1917, it was assigned to Baldwin and American by the United States Railroad Administration (USRA).

However, by November of 1917 the federal government was undecided about the situation in Russia, and the new order was placed on hold. In any case, by the middle of 1917 the locomotive builders already had backlogs that were full through 1918, so there was no capacity available to start the new order even if it had been released. Both Baldwin and Alco were already building locomotives for the French, Italian and British railways as well as large orders of “Pershing” (Consolidation) locomotives for the American Expeditionary Force (AEF). There is no evidence that any work was done on any locomotives for the new Russian 2,000 unit order.

During 1917, world order had changed. The Russian Revolution was underway. The communist revolutionaries would likely not be long-term friends of the United States, and Russia had started negotiating a peace treaty with Germany in any case. The strategic reasons for supplying Russia with locomotives were no longer valid. So in November, 1917, the US government not only canceled work on new orders for Russia, but stopped delivery of locomotives already built but not shipped.

Earlier in 1917 two orders had been placed. In May the Russian government ordered 60 Decapods from Baldwin along with another 53 small gasoline locomotives. In June a further order of 500 Decapods was placed, split equally between Baldwin and Alco. On all the orders, the locomotives were erected and tested at the builder’s plant and then were broken down and crated for shipment.

When shipments were suspended, most of the orders for Russia had been built and shipped with the exception of this last one. The last order for 500 locomotives was largely complete with some shipped, others crated and prepared for shipment, and the balance of the process of final erection at the builders or already completed and being stored at the builder’s plants.

The numbers of locomotives actually completed and shipped is a subject of substantial controversy. According to William D. Edison’s well-researched article cited above, somewhere between 831 and 857 locomotives actually made it overseas. We do know from the United States Railroad Administration records that 200 locomotives were completed and then converted for American service. These were 100 units from the last Baldwin order, USRA 1101-1200 (originally Russian numbers E926 to E1025), 35 from Alco Brooks (USRA 1066-1100, Russian E1176 to E1210) and 65 from Alco-Richmond which became USRA 1001-1065. Also at least half of the last Baldwin order was canceled, as well as some portion of the Alco orders. One of the last locomotives built but not shipped eventually became our Frisco 1630, but not immediately.

Meanwhile, railroads in the United States were facing a crisis. Even though the United States did not declare war on Germany and Austria until April, 1917, America’s industrial might was busy supplying the needs of Allied countries already at war. The railroads were suddenly strained to capacity.

The winter of 1916-1917 was the worst in many years and caused immense delays on the railroads. Track was frozen, equipment breakdowns were frequent and much of the effort of the roundhouse and shop crews was expended digging locomotives out of snowdrifts. One report suggests the one division of the Pennsylvania Railroad used over 50% of their shop crew time that way one month.

During most of 1917 the railroads were trying to recover from the damage done by the bad weather and by the enormous losses in skilled personnel both to the armed forces and to better paying jobs in the manufacturing industries.

Unfortunately the winter of 1917-1918 was a repeat of the previous year. Shipments were delayed, warships were unable to sail on schedule because there was insufficient coal at the docks and material for the troops couldn’t be gathered ready for ocean transportation because there were too few cars available. Late in 1917, the United States Railway Administration (USRA) was created to take over operational control of the railroads and try to bring unity and order to the transportation system.

By moving locomotives from one area to another and having roads with spare shop capacity repair locomotives for other lines much progress was made. However power was still in critically short supply. And with the demand for locomotives to be built and shipped to France to support the American Expeditionary Force there was little chance of enough new locomotives coming from the builders for domestic use.

However, the Russian Decapods which had been built but were not shipped were available and could be modified for use in the US. And that is what the USRA decided to do. According to the USRA report for 1918, 200 of the Decapods were modified and leased by the War Department to US Railroads at $45.00 per day (see Table III).



One Baldwin leased to the Pennsylvania Railroad bore the builder’s number 47953. This is the locomotive that ultimately became the Frisco 1630. Operating as USRA 1147, she ran on Pennsylvania lines west of Pittsburgh from March 1918 until 1920. Some old PRR employees recall that USRA 1147 ran on the PRR lines in Illinois in the 1918-1919 time period. We have little other information about the kind of work she did or any specific trains that she pulled while with the Pennsylvania Railroad.

[:I] One part to go ! Have a great evening !![:I]

[passengerfan]

Tom forgot the 48-Seat Budd Dining Car in DOMINION consist located between TEESWATER and HUNTER MANOR it was a Toronto - Vancouver car.

Just thought I would add that I never had the opportunity to ride on one of the GROVE series 10 Roomette 5-Double Bedroom sleeping cars built by the CPR shops in Montreal but did have an opportunity to go through one before they were sold to the NdeM and elegant is an apt description for the workmanship of the CPR men who bult those cars. The interiors were exquisite and the fitting of the woodwork reminded me of those cars built by Milwaukee Road a road that built most of their streamlined cars in their own Milwaukee Shops.

[siberianmo]

P

Now THAT's the FIRST thing I've ever seen from the PC that I like![swg]

I'll have to figure a way to use it for the bar ....

I'm outta here for the night!

Thanx!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[red p]

yo Tom, another Jack and coke. By the way I really like the new menu cards.
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[siberianmo]

Good Evening!

Not long on Posts this mid-week day, but some very interesting input!

Acknowledging:

coalminer3 CM3
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 12:54:43

Confirmed! I am NOT traveling to the middle east nor do I ever want to! Good grief. That’s quite a story within the URL you provided on the Hejaz Railway.

Your Email was received and responded to – thanx![tup]

nickinwestwales Nick
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 19:56:20

Glad that the URLs on Lionel/Neil Young perked your interests![tup]

An interesting question regarding the loco’s of the Can-Am. Actually, I haven’t detected any of the “mainline” engines being any more powerful than the other, regardless of make. I used to double up the F40PH’s with my VIA Rail consists, but stopped the practice upon noticing that since they really weren’t “matched,” that I was perhaps causing more harm than not. Single F40’s pull the 6 car consists quite well, at realistic speeds. Those are made by Walthers (Trainline series) and by Bachmann (Spectrum series). The Amtrak loco’s by Athearn perform equally well, and I only use one per consist, although only the Superliners are run with 6 cars. The Amfleet and Horizon consists are 4 car trains each. I prefer the Walthers loco’s moreso because they are quiet in comparison with the Athearns and Bachmann. Also have noted that the Athearn loco’s are a bit more “sensitive” when it comes to navigating the turnouts, whereas the Walthers can be run at “speed” without worrying about derailments.

The absolute best running, most powerful loco’s are the Rivarossi/IHC EMD E8’s. Unfortu nately, they are “dated,” and I only run ‘em on special occasions – commemorative runs and the like.,

The Athearn F7A’s in the display case are no match for the F40’s and PA’s. They simply are crap in comparison. More for looks and they rest well in the display case![swg]

I see that you are far more advanced than I will ever be when it comes to performance measures used by the more serious in the hobby. My “measure” is whether the loco’s run at realistic speeds when compared to where my throttles are set. None of them really do – and it is moreso the problem of the MRC Tech IV dual packs than anything else. However, to my eye, they all run as hoped. Thanx for asking!

Vengeful wretch of a parrot, you say! Well, that can only mean …. The return of Awk scourge of the bar known as ”Our” Place![swg]

Look forward to more from you in the ‘morrow! Glad you’re back and hope things are looking “up.”[tup][tup]

ftwNSengineer P
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 19:56:51

Back again – Good to see ya![tup] The Rule G info is appreciated. My model RR interests are strictly along the lines of what my “mind’s eye” recalls. Oh, of course I try to keep with the proper roadnames and types of equipment in use during the period of my experiences, including the cars, trucks and buses appropriate to the era. My rule of thumb with model railroading is quite simple: if it pleases me, then it works!

passengerfan Al
Posted: 18 Jan 2006, 20:07:42

So what’s the “deal” between your printer and computer[?] Still don’t understand how one screws up your ability to “do your thing” with Posts here. Oh well ………

Didn’t we see the Dominion Streamliner piece once before[?] Anyway, always enjoyable – a treat. You need pix, photos, pictures – even URLs to do these things justice!

Thanx for the round! Can always count on you for some “cheer” at the bar![swg] Boris leave Awk alone and ring the bell!


Okay, Gents – Leon the Night Man has arrived wearing his “spiffy” jump boots, white cummerbund and overalls. What a clothes horse the man is!


Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!

Those who acknowledge the other guy, get acknowledged!

[passengerfan]

Good Evening Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.

Just informed that I will not have a printer until Monday by the service tech who took mine. They are sending me a new one. Can't say enough about a certain computer companies service absolutely superb.

Can't wait until Monday so will try to do one now.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #43

DOMINION Canadian Pacific Railway Trains 3-4 Montreal/Toronto - Vancouver 2,881 miles 78 hours daily each direction.

Prior to the introduction of the CANADIAN the DOMINION was the CPR transcontinental It was truly one of the most unusual trains in al of North America after the CANADIAN was introduced. How could one classify the DOMINION as being a secondary train when it operated every type of Budd car found in the CANADIAN plus a mixture of heavyweights and CPR shop built streamlined cars. This mixture of the old with the newer and newest gave the DOMINION a flavor all its own.

Prior to the CANADIAN the DOMINION operated in two separate sections one from Toronto to Vancouver and one from Montreal to Vancouver. The DOMINION also carried the mail across Canada so a combined train from Sudbury to Vanmcouver was operated after the CANADIAN was inaugurated.

It was soon found that summers the DOMINION would operate as separate trains west of Sudbury. The Toronto section of the summer DOMINION retained the Budd built cars while the Montreal section operated with all Maroon equipment.

The following DOMINION consist is west of Sudbury on April 24, 1955 the day the CANADIAN was inaugurated.

DOMINION CONSIST.

1407 GMD FP9A 1,750 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

1901 GMD F9B 1,750 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit

1409 GMD FP9A 1.750 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

3645 Baggage 30" Railway Post Office Car (Built by CC&F)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

4750 Baggage Car (Built by CC&F)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

3003 Baggage 17-Crew Dormitory Car (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

GADSBY 14-Section Tourist Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

GANDER 14-Section Tourist Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

2287 68 Revenue Seat Coach (CPR Shops)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

2226 68- Revenue Seat Coach (CPR Shops)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

103 60-Revenue Seat Coach (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

ANTRIM 35-Seat Dining Car (Heavyweight)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

506 SKYLINE DOME 24-Seat Dome 17-Seat Coffee Shop 8-Seat Buffet 24-Revenue Seat Coach (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

APPLE GROVE 10-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (CPR Shops)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

SASKATOON 12-Section 1-Drawing Room Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

TEESWATER 12-Section 1-Drawing Room Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

HUNTER MANOR 4-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom 1-Compartment 4-Section Sleeping Car (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

VALOIS 8-Section 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Montreal - Vancouver)

CHATEAU LEMOYNE 8-Duplex Roomette 1-Drawing Room 3-Double Bedroom 4-Section Sleeping Car (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

RIVERTON 1-Drawing Room 2-Compartment 8-Section Sleeping Car (Heavyweight)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

RIDING MOUNTAIN PARK 24-Seat Dome 3-Double Bedroom 1-Drawing Room 12-Seat Mural Lounge Bar 13-Seat Lounge Observation (Budd)
(Toronto - Vancouver)

Can yo imagine all of that switching at Sudbury and it was completed in 1 Hour, and that included transferring the mail and Express packages. Not unusual for a baggage car to operate from both Montreal and Toronto to the west coast when Express business was heavy.

Many times the DOMINION operated with two Baggage 30' Railway Post Office cars when the mail volume was heavy particularly at Christmas.

Twenty cars was the maximum for stations served by the DOMINION but often two stops were necessary at smaller stations. The DOMINION made flag stops that were not stops for the CANADIAN.

The DOMINION was truly a first class train operating on a secondary train schedule. Many found the DOMINION a far more interesting train than the CANADIAN. The second dining crew from Montreal were assigned space in the Montreal - Vancouver Tourist sleeping car. In fact the onboard crew changed at Winnipeg both east and westbound. No 35 seats in the CPR dining car is not an error they gave the Steward a seat in these old cars to do all of his paper work at a tiny desk that eliminated the 36th dining seat.

TTFN AL

[red p]

hey Tom, Jack and coke please.
Been trying to get caught up here. there was some talk awhile back ago about Rule G.
well here it is right out of the book of operating rules.

An employee who reports for duty under the influence of alcohol or other intoxicant, cannabis in any form, an amphetamine, a narcotic drug, a hallucinogenic drug, any controlled substance (as defined by federal law), or a drivitive or combination of these,or who uses any of the foregoing while on duty, will be dismissed. Possession of any of the forgoing while on duty, or possession, use , or being under the influence of any of the foregoing while on company propery or occupying facilities provided by the company is prohibited

As far as the modeling goes I dont model the glory or golden days of railroading. I model it as I saw it when I was a kid in the mid 1970s. Although I do model an early Amtak operation in addition to PC.

I also dug up an old book that I have on railroad folklore, so the next time im in ill have a story to tell.
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[nickinwestwales]

Howdy guys,[4:-)]TOM-a big green bottle for me,beers for the boys & an extra large one for yourself-have just spent a happy half -hour perusing the Neil Young/Lionel site-now thats what I call an evening out- boundary-stretching guitar playing AND a tent full of trains to play with-only Spielberg (N.B. spelling) link I could find was that his first 8mm home movies were of his Lionel trains,but who knows-there may have been changes afoot since those articles were posted/published and given Spielbergs much publicised desire to keep alive the magic of childhood it would seem a likely area for him to invest some of his hard earned squillions,anyway-nice link,thanks[tup]
Also,thanks for the Can-Am shed roster-satisfied a long held curiosity--just out of interest,how do the various `brand names` compare in terms of performance ?-I know the Can-Am is an all level pike (main lines) so grades are not a problem but some of those consists look like a pretty solid pull-I have a couple of Walthers F40`s which I am very pleased with plus a couple of Roco-powered Atlas FP7`s which are pretty well equivalent in terms of tractive effort ( although desperately power-hungry--we are talking street lights dimming here ) but my Bachmann units are a real mixed bag-the G.P35 (can motor,8 wheel drive) will out perform any of the above and will lift a scale 750` N.M.R.A weighted freight up the 1:40 bank on the layout from a dead start.
The 2 F9`s( pancake motors,4wd) are as different as chalk & cheese,despite a generous fist of lead in each-one will pull the side off a house,the other couldn`t pull the wool over your eyes....another little mystery to keep me awake at nights[swg]
Right,another beer please-plus a bag of crisps/chips as that vengeful wretch of a parrot is nowhere in sight.................
ROB-the reference to bootlegging was strictly in jest-whilst I have no firm position on the debate re music copying per se,I wouldn`t wish for any friend to have his collar felt by a beetle browed thug in a monkey-suit----another fine `juice` by the way-I am beginning to think I could negotiate my way around TO with nothing more than a print-out of these pages[^]
MIKE-in deference to the managements delicate sensibilities [swg] Elvis,Hendrix & other personae non grata are only to be heard on the galley sound system,which is securely stored under Boris`s bedding in the shed....
CM3-The Regatta should indeed be fun-not least since they will be the deepest drafted vessels ever to venture this far up river-Llangwm was a fairly active coal exporting site prior to the coming of the railways but even then they used shallow draft coasters which had to moor out in the main channel whilst loading.
Add to this a tidal range of somewhere around the 8 metre mark and a number of `pinch points` where a few feet divergence from the centre of the channel can very quickly put you in 18 inches of water,even on a spring tide and I`m sure you can see the potential....
Nice URL by the way-I suspect I may have some pix of the line by Colin Garrett,quite likely of Stanier 8F`s left over from WW2,may take some time to find but leave it with me
TED-your powers are strong young skywalker,you must use them wisely.........
LARS-matters of military service beyond my brief-have a drink on me in lieu of a proper response[tup]
[4:-)]TOM-like the book idea in principle,checked at the local post office when it was first mooted,and to be brutally honest the cost of shipping would render it beyond my limited means,especially at the moment.....sorry to be a wet blanket [:(] thanks for the warning re rogue E-Mails-ya cant be to careful-( what is the point of those deals ?-why should one computer user want to f*ck up another persons machine ??-I could end up getting quite right wing about it all ).
Anyway,busy day tomorrow,-school run,days tasks,feed the tribe,work out with the other band then in here for fun ,frolics & fishy dishes.
take care one & all,moonlight mile for me,be lucky,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Special for: nickinwestwales Nick

Just ran a couple of searches for Lionel trains, Neil Young and Steven Speilberg.

Check these URLs regarding Young:
http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2004/09/lionel-trains-shakeup.html
http://www.thrasherswheat.org/tfa/toytrains.htm

Didn't find anything linking Speilberg. And yes - he is "something" regarding films! Perhaps without peer.

Later!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

LAST CALL for ”Our” Place RR Book Relay!




A picture-book of some of the world's finest and most intersting passenger trains and places!


If you wi***o participate, send me an Email with your mailing address and we'll get this idea off 'n running!

I will mail the book to the first person on the list. Within two weeks after receipt, that person forwards the book to the next person, and so forth.

Ground rules:

(1) Additional blank pages have been provided inside the front cover for comments by each recipient.

(2) Comments should include:

. . . (a) Date received and from whom.

. . . (b) What in particular you enjoyed the most.

(3) I will provide the mailing address for the next recipient on the list.

(4) Send me an Email when you receive the book and again when you send it to the next person. That will be our “tracking system.”

(5) The last person to participate, ships the book back to me.

Pretty simple, eh[?]


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)] Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

My contribution for "Pike Perspective's Day!" comes from the pages of the HO Can-Am Inventory:

HO Model Railroad Inventory

Locomotives of the Can-AM

Description Road name/#/color Qty Part # Misc.

AMD103 P40 Powered AMTRAK, #303, Phase III Athearn 140-3644
AMD103 P40 Powered AMTRAK, #838, Phase III Athearn 140-3645
AMD103 P42 Powered AMTRAK NE Corr #107, Phase IV Athearn 140-3653
AMD103 P42 Powered AMTRAK NE Corr (no #), Phase IV Athearn 140-3655
AMD103 P40 Dummy AMTRAK #838, Phase III Athearn 140-3675
AMD103 P42 Dummy AMTRAK NE Corr, #104, Phase IV Athearn 140-3684


EMD F40PH Powered AMTRAK #303, Phase III Walthers 931-302
EMD F40PH Powered VIA Rail (small flag) #6415 (02) Walthers 931-308
EMD F40PH Powered VIA Rail (large flag) #6450 (02) Walthers 931-316
EMD F40PH Powered AMTRAK #406, Phase IV Walthers 931-325

EMD F40PH Powered AMTRAK #229, Phase III Life Like 433-8241

EMD F40PH Powered AMTRAK #217, w/strobes Bachmann 160-87003
EMD F40PH Powered VIA Rail #6404 Bachmann 160-87021
EMD F40PH Powered VIA Rail #6425 Bachmann 160-87022


EMD E-8 “A” Powered (set) VIA Rail #6530, blue/yellow IHC 348-1954
EMD E-8 “A” Dummy VIA Rail #6530, blue/yellow IHC 348-1954

EMD E-8 “A” Powered (set) Canadian Pacific #1800, maroon/gray Rivarossi 635-6247 Display case
EMD E-8 “A” Dummy Canadian Pacific #1800, maroon, gray Rivarossi 635-6247 Display case


F7B Dummy Canadian National, green/black Athearn 140-3026 Display case
F7A Powered Canadian National, green/black Athearn 140-3225 Display case

F7B Dummy CP Rail, red/white Athearn 140-3038 Display case
F7A Powered CP Rail, red/white Athearn 140-3237 Display case

F7B Dummy VIA Rail #6637, blue/yellow Athearn 140-3078 Display case
F7A Powered VIA Rail #6519, blue/yellow Athearn 140-3277 Display case

GP7 Powered CN #4563, black Athearn 140-3161


GP38-2 Powered CN #5543, black Athearn 140-4517

GP40-2 Powered Canadian Pacific #4656, beaver, red Athearn 140-4436

GP9M Powered CP Rail #1522, dual flags, red Walthers 931-114

GE8 40B Powered AMTRAK #510, Phase III Walthers 931-166
GE8 40B Powered AMTRAK #517, Phase IV Walthers 931-197

SW7 Powered AMTRAK #551, gray Athearn 140-4013
SW7 Powered VIA Rail #21 (custom), blue/yellow Athearn 140-4051

Notes:

(1) Does not include 8 subway cars awaiting operation beneath Can-Am City.
(2) Display case refers to "Retired Canadian loco's and rolling stock."
(3) Formatting differences between MS Word and Forums accounts for appearance oddities.

Enjoy!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]