Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta.
Mark
P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.
KCSfan Johnny, I'm going to take a stab at identifying the train. NC&StL No's. 3 & 4 running between Nashville and Atlanta. The leased RR over which it ran was the State of Georgia owned Western & Atlantic between Chattanooga and Atlanta. Mark P.S.I can't find any record of setout sleepers at Chattanooga so I'm just guessing that they ran at an earlier time than any of the OG's which I have to reference.
In 1893, the train had a through sleeper between St. Louis and Atlanta, and carried the name Quickstep.
I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult?
Johnny
Deggesty I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult? Johnny
That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length.
On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran.
KCSfan Deggesty I thought of throwing an oddity of its line in--in its course, the train crossed one state five times, a second state four times, and a third state once, all in less than about fifty miles. Would this have made it easier, or would it have made it more difficult? Johnny That would have made it more difficult for me. Because it is only 134 rail miles between Atlanta and Chattanooga, I had a hard time imagining there would be a sleeper running only between the two cities. The same is true of the Chattanooga - Nashville route which is only 152 miles in length. On to the next one. You have 20 questions to identify the train I have in mind, the end points of its route and the RR(s) over which it ran. Mark
Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?
passengerfan Did the train operate east of the Mississippi River?
(1) Yes
Did the train operate in a North-South direction?
Mark, is the route more than 500 miles?
Johnny, I hope to learn what city on the NC&StL map the sleepers were set out for.
http://railga.com/ncsl95map.html
Mike
passengerfan Did the train operate in a North-South direction?
(2) Yes
wanswheel Mark, is the route more than 500 miles?
(3) No
Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?
Al
wanswheelJohnny, I hope to learn what city on the NC&StL map the sleepers were set out for.
Mike, Chattanooga was the set-out city.
Going from Atlanta, the train crossed Tennessee five times, Georgia four times, and Alabama once; with the exception of the west end of the Alabama crossing, all of these were close to Chattanooga. Even now, I-24 dips down into Georgia on its way from Nashville to Chattanooga.
Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?
passengerfan Was one of the terminal cities Detroit?
(4) No
Deggesty Mark, did the train run in the South (south of the Ohio and Potomac rivers)?
(5) No
Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern? - a.s.
Was the train streamlined?
al-in-chgo Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern? - a.s.
(5) Yes
passengerfan Mark Was the train streamlined? Al
(6) No
Did any part of the train's normal run take place under catenary or next to third-rail, regardless of whether the motive power for the train was steam, diesel, electric, some hybrid, or different types of motive power for different stretches of its run?
al-in-chgo Did any part of the train's normal run take place under catenary or next to third-rail, regardless of whether the motive power for the train was steam, diesel, electric, some hybrid, or different types of motive power for different stretches of its run?
(7) No
KCSfan al-in-chgo Mark, did the train operate (in whole or in part) over one or more predecessor railroads to today's Norfolk Southern? - a.s. (5) Yes Mark
Al,
I just realized that my answer to this question might midlead you and others. I'll qualify my answer by saying that the small portion of this trains former route that remains in service today is a part of the Norfolk Southern.
I am enjoying the 20 Question format very much but may I make a suggestion...When setting up the question the first several questions are geographical. So why not get rid of the first several (predictable) questions right off the bat with, the fact that it is east/west or whatever and is located east or west of the Mississippi. Those questions are always asked so why not make it a full 20 questions instead of 18?
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Thanks Johnny, I got confused by the word "removed," and thought there was a fourth city nearby but not on the mainline.
Mark, does the railroad's name have a state?
I just want to jump in before more time elapses to say that IMHO henry6 brought up a useful way to streamline the game. Another way might be to allow numerous (perhaps indefinite) questions from the same person as long as they continue to be answered by "Yes." This penalizes the "No" answers more effectively because then the question-posing power passes to someone else. In such a case you might not even need 18 - 20 questions. Six to ten might work. People of a certain age will find this similar to the old "What's My Line" TV quiz show. Just sayin' .
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that a set up be: "I am thinking of a train east of the Mississipi that goes east and west." But more like, "This eastern train connected two cities from a point on the coast to an inland location." Or, "This train ran east of the Mississippi and and parallel to it." You get my drift.
wanswheel Mark, does the railroad's name have a state? Mike
(8) Yes
Is Chicago a terminal?
wanswheel Is Chicago a terminal?
(9) Yes
Is part of the railroad's name the word "Ohio"? - a.s.
al-in-chgo Is part of the railroad's name the word "Ohio"? - a.s.
(10) No
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