Seashore has QRL&P 454, a large and heavy steel car. I'll post a new question later today.
You got six instead of five, because you counted the IRT and BMT as separate systems, whereas after June 1940, they were both part of NYCity Transit.
Chicago opened the State St. Subway, but no wood cars used it.
Shipyard Railway was a WWII temporary operation.
NYCity Transit opened the Dyre Avenue line over part of the old New York Westchester and Boston RoW with open-platform cars released by bthe 1940 3nd Avenue Elevated abandonment.
A sixth or seventh system/line can be added, the Quebec - St. Joachim Canadian National Mont Morency Division electric operation. Jackson & Sharp "duck-bill" coaches as gtrailers. Is not there one at Seashore? And next question, please.
daveklepper I'm certain you are familiar with all five,
"Familiar" might be a bit strong but here are six I can think of:
New Haven (by WWII New Canaan and maybe Danbury shuttles) steel cars
IRT various lines including Third Avenue
BMT Myrtle Avenue and maybe others
CRT (Chicago) systemwide including Dempster Avenue (Skokie)
Shipyard Railway Oakland-Richmond CA built "new" from salvage parts. ex-IRT El cars equipped with pantographs. Dismantled after war, mostly the same route as BART Richmond line.
Salt Lake Garfield & Western used its open-air open platform cars behind Baldwin-Westinghouse motors to carry bathers to the Saltair resort until September 1942, then to move Air Force personnel to an air base from 1943 to 1945, when the Saltair resort reopened.
RC, please put on your thinking cap and answer the question. I'm certain you are familiar with all five,
During WWII, there were open-platfoe cars in FIVE North American systems, railroads and transit systems, that used open-platform cars in electric train operation. Name all five. No partial credit given in this case.
Hints:
All this equipment dated from before WWI.
But one system's were relatively new, and all their's were steel.
On only one system, all were wood and all were trailers.
Despite thye age of the equipment, two systems' lines opened during WWII with these cars. One of these lines survives today, through routed with modern equipment. Another system opened a new line during WWII, ut not with these cars.
Section 11 of the Act regulated railroad ownership of shipping lines, and turned the regulation over to the ICC. It may have been that ICC rate regulation simply made the lake boat operation (from Ogdensburg NY) uneconomic.
The lake boats started as the Northern Transit line (Northerr Ry. of N.Y), became the Ogdensburg (sometimes Chicago & Ogdensburgh) after the NRofNY became the Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain, and finally the Rutland Transit Co.
Note that Ogdensburg seems to have gone this whole period without picking up the "h" on the end that came and went at Alburg(h) VT during the same period, and was finally adopted during WW I.
Well. the New York Central had a controling interest in the Rutland, and the Rutland did have a "navy" operating on Lake Erie (Oswego, the port (Sp?)?). This did enable the Rutland to compete to some extent with the Central for some east-west traffic.
The 1915 vact had provisions beyond just use of the Panama Canal, possibly even affecting the Rutland's use of the Welland canal.
The Grand Trunk was unaffected by the Panama Canal Act. CV's boats on Long Island Sound survived until nearly World War II.
The railroad I'm looking for operated its line at least somewhat in competition with the major railroad system that had a controlling interest for a number of years after 1900.
THe Northeast Regional Central Vermont, owned by CN, had its navy, not the answer to your question, which operated until WWII, 1939 in Canada, so CV-CN coud compete on price NY-area - West Coast. Boat-rail interchane at New London.
So--- I assume the othyer CN-owned Northeast regionasl, the Grand Trunk, had an ocean-going navy, that with the CN, and CN boatws in thye Pacific, could compete for Asia-Europe qand/or West Coast - Europe freight traffic, until the opening of the Panama Canal, with an economical all-water route possible.
This northeast regional's "navy", which justified a water level construction project in 1900, was killed off by the Panama Canal act in 1915. The shipping line operated under one name before 1865, another until around 1900, another after. All three names were tied to the name of the railroad that met the boats at the time.
So RC ua up for questions on hoth threads.
Yes
Looks like Laxey is the location according to the maps I can find.
So the exact location is.....
And then go on to aswik nthe next question
5 and 6 on the right in bthye photo are two 3'-6"-guage cars, with about to start for the top of Snaefel Mountain, with 6 to follow. The car on the left came from Douglass and will proceed to Ramsey.
_____ is about mid-point on the Dougklass - Ramsey coastal tram line.
Isle of Man, U.K.
The Isle of Man Railway (Steam) and Manx Electric Railway are 36" gauge. The Snaefell Mountain Ry. is 42" gauge and the Great LAxey Mine Railway is 19" gauge.
Another Jack May photo. Location, please?
On the widest-gauged line of the three narrow-gauge lines at this location, although the car bodies are original. and over 120-years old, the traction equipment is second hand from German trams and possibly about 70-years old. The braking system is the unique technology, is the only application anywhere of this technology, and the technology was originally conceived for traction, as well as brake effort.
From this location, where there are three different operastions with three sifferent narrow gauges, one can ride the over-Cerntury-old equipment of the three-foot gauge line to a joint terminal waith another of the same gauge, one that uses the most primitive form of motive power in regular use, anywhere. That fourth narrow-gauuge operation will take to point where a few-blkocks will bring you to a fifthm as illustrated. All photos are from Jack May and have been posted forso me time on a thread in the Trains magazine Transit Forum.
The smalst of the three lines at the location, both in distance traveled and in gauge. But was originally built for freight. Now has two replidca steam locomotives and one battery locomotive. The tunnel is under the grade of the three-foot gauge line that is part of the dual-gauge track above.
The atill-operating waterwheel:
' At the specific town, here is a picture of the only dual-gauge track, used in overhauling the cars of the line using the niqur technology. Both narrow-gauge lines use very, very old eqipment, at least as far as the car bodies. Indeed, possibly San Fransisco's "dinky" may be the world's electric railway equipment as old and used with some reglarity.
The location is also asslciated with a gigantic wheel, also a symbol and useful for an old technology.
Still needs the answer. The answer is in a posted thread. A funicular is not involved, but one line does serve a somewhat similar function, uses a specific technology not used anywhere else, still operating with original equipment (true of all three operations, with two really very old). also newer second-hand propulsion equipment replaced the original after WWII, does not have its own repair shop, and so there is a short bit of dual-gauge trqack which can be seen on this Forum in a different thread, with at least one photo of each of the three lines.
I think this was already posed and (eventually!) answered, so I won't spoil the fun. Is there a funicular or something like one in the tourist mix nearby, too?
OK: Here is one. A location, a town, visited by North American touristsm but not in North America, where you can board for a ride in summer months, during the day, even enjoy a round trip on three lines in one day. All three are narrow gauge, but with three different gauges. All are primarily run for tourists, one of the three primarily by and for railfans.
I'm suffering from cranial vaporlock due to the heat. If someone else wants to pose a question, go for it.
Thank you!
You're up.
October 3, 1952, on the Buffalo Creek and Gauley during labor unrest.
FreightOps (buffalocreekandgauley.com)
Actually a robbery -- and recognized historically to be the last.
Yor hints sggest that, while it was an incident on RR property, it was not really a train robbery. It was an attack on RR employees or contractor employees.
Sperry Rail Inspection?
Maintenasnce crew on a track speeder?
You ask good questions. No problem with them, except they are tough ones, often.
No horses involved... not really any room for them on that 'train' in the first place.
Do I have you buffaloed? is your guessing up the creek without a paddle? Is the question galling?
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