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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:52 PM

ACL cooperated with, competed with, and later merged with the Atlanta Birmingham and Coast, connecting at Waycross GA for Dixie Route service.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:42 AM

I should have added "The CG had several zero mileposts."

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 10:41 AM

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I was about to mention ACL but RC beat me to it.  But I think its Zero was in Richmond, and the negatives were to connect with eitiher the RF&P or the C&O in Richmond.

 

And the other would be the CofG which did compete with the ACL, I think Savanna - Atlanta.

 

Yes, the ACL is one, but I doubt that there was much competition between it and the CG--certainly  not much as there was between the ACL and Road D--which interchanged passenger trains with the yet unnamed road in the same city (which city is to be named). The primary competition was between their main lines.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:55 AM

I was about to mention ACL but RC beat me to it.  But I think its Zero was in Richmond, and the negatives were to connect with eitiher the RF&P or the C&O in Richmond.

 

And the other would be the CofG which did compete with the ACL, I think Savanna - Atlanta.

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:21 AM

One of them must be the ACL, which L&N traditionally touched at Montgomery.  After the 1950s NC&St.L merger, L&N touched and interchanged cars with ACL at Atlanta on the "Dixie" route, whose last train came off in 1965 or so.  Don't know where ACL's 0 milepost was, but Jacksonville wouldn't surprise me.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:50 PM

Roads C & D were rivals for passenger service between two sections of the country--and the L&N did not participate in this service.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 6, 2017 8:05 PM

The L&N interchanged passenger trains with one of the roads in one capital city for many years; it began interchanging with the same road in the second capital city in the fifties--and stopped this practice by 1966 .

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 6, 2017 7:58 AM

Thank you, Miningman. However, I have never had any interest in professional football. When I went down to supper here where I live, there was a party in the living room with many watching the game--and I went on into the dining room. When some of the food and drink that was provided for the party was offered me, I did accept the offer. 

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, February 5, 2017 11:04 PM

Deggesty/Johnny- I'm hazarding a guess that you are an Atlanta Falcons fan...thats a tough loss to take. Cost me a bit of $ as well...heck of a game.  

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:11 PM

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And did not the PRR measure only from Broad St., Philadelphia, and interchange with the L&N in both Louisville and Cincinnati?

 

Dave, you are out of the area served by roads C and D. Neither one the C&EI or PRR meet the qualification that C & D also interchanged passenger trains with another road.

Original question: Off-hand, I know of four railroads that had one zero milepost each for the majority of its lines (the majority of the lines on each road had a common zero mp). Name four, with the location of the zero mp--and name the two roads of the four that had negative mileposts for their connections with another road (name it), and the locations of the junctions.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:24 PM

And did not the PRR measure only from Broad St., Philadelphia, and interchange with the L&N in both Louisville and Cincinnati?

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:18 PM

And the interchange with the L&N was at Evansville, on the Ohio River

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:43 PM

Ah! Chicago & Eastern Illinois, with zero mile at the Deaborn Station bumpimng post.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:55 AM

No, no, Dave; The NC is not one of the railroads, nor did the SAL have its zero milepost at the interchange with the RF&P.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:05 AM

And did the SAL base all mileages from its interchange with the RF&P in Richmond?   The only problem would be the branch to Portsmouth, VA, but even than could be handled.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:01 AM

Glad to be reminded of the WRA's name.   How about the Nashville, Chattanoioga & St. Louis?

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:48 PM

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One other railroad is the partner to the Atlanta and West Point in the West Point Rouite.  Not sure of its name, something and Western Alabama:  Geargia Mand Western Alabama?  West Point and Western Alabama?

 

Montgomery the interchange poinrt?   Westg Point zero miles?

 

 

 

 

Sorry, Dave, the Western Railway of Alabama is not  either C or D.

The L&N interchanged passenger trains with one road in a river city, and the other road in two capital cities.

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, February 4, 2017 12:15 PM

One other railroad is the partner to the Atlanta and West Point in the West Point Rouite.  Not sure of its name, something and Western Alabama:  Geargia Mand Western Alabama?  West Point and Western Alabama?

 

Montgomery the interchange poinrt?   Westg Point zero miles?

 

 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, February 3, 2017 8:07 AM

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The Southers was identified as having a Zero mile post at WAS.   I assume one other railroad is the L&N.   Possibly from Louisville?

 

Ah, Dave, you have identified  road B--the L&N. That leaves two more roads, both of which interchanged trains with the L&N. Also, the points at which the other two roads interchanged with another road.

As I remarked in my last post, the Southern Railway System had many 0 mileposts. Off hand, I can name a few--Kingville, S.C. (SC line); Bristol, Va., (A line), Salisbury, N.C. (S line); Chattanooga, Tenn. (H line). As has been mentioned, each subsidiary had its own zero mp.

The S line is somewhat interesting, as it runs from Salisbury to Morristown, Tenn.--and the track west of the North Carolina line was in the ETV&G System while the track east the line was in the Richmond and Danville System. Evidently the mp's in Tennessee were renumbered after that merger.

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, February 3, 2017 12:40 AM

The Southers was identified as having a Zero mile post at WAS.   I assume one other railroad is the L&N.   Possibly from Louisville?

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, February 2, 2017 11:29 AM

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I think we can add Southern Railway(0 MP, Washington U. S.) to the list of roads with single 0 mileposts.  I don't think it counts for other SR System members, especially CNO&TP.

 

No, the Southern Railway System had many zero mileposts. I lived on the SC line--Kingville, S.C. to Marion, N.C.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, February 2, 2017 11:25 AM

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The train was the alll-Pullman, extra-fare Crescent, marketed mainly by the Sourthern, but also running on the PRR, West Point route, and arriving in New Orleans on the L&N.  I know the swervice was offered westbound, not sure about eastbound.  The usual connecting SP train was, of course, the Sunset Limited.

 

[/quote]Dave, you have the right trains, but you did not give a direct answer to the original question.

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Posted by rcdrye on Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:54 AM

I think we can add Southern Railway(0 MP, Washington U. S.) to the list of roads with single 0 mileposts.  I don't think it counts for other SR System members, especially CNO&TP.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:06 AM

The train was the alll-Pullman, extra-fare Crescent, marketed mainly by the Sourthern, but also running on the PRR, West Point route, and arriving in New Orleans on the L&N.  I know the swervice was offered westbound, not sure about eastbound.  The usual connecting SP train was, of course, the Sunset Limited.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 8:35 PM

Deggesty- New word "fillip"...had to look that up. Thought it was possibly a key stroke error but found this- fillip: anything that tends to excite, or revive: a stimulus. Also has other meanings but thanks for the new word. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 8:32 PM

One road, the SP, has been identified. For several years, the SP and Road B had an interesting arrangement: you could buy a through ticket between a point on the route of a well-known train on Road B and a point on the SP--but the roads used different stations in the city which both roads served. Through passengers, on arrival in that city, would detrain, spend a few hours sightseeing, go to the other station, and find their carry-on baggage in accomodations just like those they had occupied when coming into the city. After World War II, the two roads began using the same station, and there was through car service through the city, using a name train on each road.

As an added fillip, name the two well-known trains that had these arrangements.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 8:04 PM

One road, the SP, has been identified. For several years, the SP and Road B had an interesting arrangement: you could buy a through ticket between a point on the route of a well-known train on Road B and a point on the SP--but the roads used different stations in the city which both roads served. Through passengers, on arrival in that city, would detrain, spend a few hours sightseeing, go to the other station, and find their carry-on baggage in accomodations just like those they had occupied when coming into the city. After World War II, the two roads began using the same station, and there was through car service through the city, using a name train on each road.

As an added fillip, name the two well-known trains that had these arrangements.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:59 PM

Two of the roads interchanged passenger trains with a fifth road which, so far as I can tell, had no branch lines except one down to a passenger station shared with one of the roads.. Even though the interchanges were in the same city, they were not at the same point. One interchange was, as well as I can tell from a 1953 ETT of the connecting road, at MP 0.9 of the connecting road under question, and the other interchange was 0.5 miles south from that point to the passenger station used by the other road under question. The connecting road did not use the station used by the road which connected with it at mp 0.9; its trains used the station used by the other road.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:31 PM

One of the four roads interchanged passenger trains with two other of the four roads, but not in the same cities.

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, January 27, 2017 11:12 AM

Two of the roads interchanged Pullman cars.

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