WHOAAAAAAAAAA....Hang on folks.
Illinois - Nope
New Mexico - Nope
Tennessee - Nope
Mexico itself - Nope
Iowa - Nope
Arkansas - Nope
Mark, the Alton line is trackage rights and somewhat fictional to give the impression you can ship stuff from Alton over the Katy. Map tricks.
Missouri, Kansas , Texas, Oklahoma and or the I.T. and Louisiana. The line in Louisiana was sold during the Katy reorganization in 1923 to Wm. Edenborn and renamed the Louisiana Railway & Navigation. I.e. KCS-L&A.
KCSfan daveklepper: Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennesee, Mexico, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas And of course Missouri. I could be wrong but I don't think the Katy ever served Iowa, Tennessee, New Mexico or old Mexico. I didn't think it served Illinois either but I found one map that shows a short branch running from Machens, MO to Alton, IL. Mark
daveklepper: Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennesee, Mexico, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas
Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennesee, Mexico, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas
And of course Missouri. I could be wrong but I don't think the Katy ever served Iowa, Tennessee, New Mexico or old Mexico. I didn't think it served Illinois either but I found one map that shows a short branch running from Machens, MO to Alton, IL.
Mark
You forgot Indian Territory, the name for what became Oklahoma.
Rgds IGN
If I left out Missouri, it was pure Dislexia. St. Louis was a main terminal. But did it not at one time also serve East Saint Louis, in Illinois? In any case, you did find it serving Illinois. East Saint Louis was on the way to Alton? Also Grafton was on the way?
I am going to ask an easy question to get a lot of information across:
Name three electrified rail lines that had/have two separate electrifications simultanously in use, one third rail and one overhead wire. All three were in simultaneous use, all had more than one railroad using them at a time, one hosted steam and diesel trains simultaneous with third rail electrics and overhead wire electrics. If any of the three railroad routes does not exist today, name what rail line replaced it and what relationship the abandoned line had to the start of the new line. Give the maximum amount of information you can on the three lines, capsul history, equipment, operating companies. All three were/are standard gauge, all were/are connected in one way or another to the national rail network, and all three always had passenger service while they were/are in existance.
If you know only two, please wait until Thursday evening to give an opportunity to someone knowing all three.
daveklepper Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennesee, Mexico, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas
Name all the states or political territories that have been served, at one time or another, by the Missouri-Kansas-Texas and predecessors.
FlyingCrow The Long Island Railroad
The Long Island Railroad
The Long Island Railroad dates to April 24 1834. It has operated under the same name and charter since. The LIRR has operated exclusively within NY state on Long Island. And til Penn Station opened it had operated only on Long Island.
When I was looking for a question my first thought was to ask about commuter railroads and then when I was reading the MTA's info on the LIRR and I thought why not
I will admit to being side tracked by the other question which no one got.
Any Flying Crow take it away.
Thx IGN
Union Pacific
Next question:
What is the oldest U.S. railroad still operating under its original name and charter.
1.Hint It is an intrastate carrier that to my memory operates operates in 4 counties.
This is what I'd found on oldest railway still in existance: The Reisszug connecting the Hohensalzburg Castle in Salzburg, Austria. Believed to date to some time around 1500.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reisszug.
I was trying to get something easy to restart the column. I'll have something else posted in a couple of minutes.
You would have to drive appox 200 miles east.
Swiss?
The one I am looking for is further north. At least your on the right continent.
Is it the Naples furnicula that is referred to in an Italian opera song?
Question, Should I post the answer and move on?
Just a recap about the current question and answer:
What is believed to be the oldest railway still in operation. Based on written record?
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Southerngreen1401: In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad. But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags. The Best friend blew up in December of 1830. All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.Henry6Do you mean incorporated railroad? Do you mean just in the USA? There were wooden rails and horse or mule or ox drawn carts in mines and quarries in the mid1700's in many places. If incorporated and USA, Southerngreen1401 above is probably right or close to it.My response to the above:
Not an incorporated railroad. It is only 620 ft long.Predates any of the above by appox 3 centuriesOh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in GreeceA little more modern than that.This railway still exists has been updated with electricity and is in use today.From the description it is believed to have started on sled skids on wood than after a few years (less than 20) changed to flanged wooden wheels on wooden rails.Thx IGN
The line was first documented in 1515 by Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxx, who would later become Xxxxxxxx of Xxxxxxxx. These dates make it the oldest known funicular in the world, and possibly the oldest existing railway.
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The line may have originally used sled-style runners, although wooden rails and wheels were soon adopted. Haulage was by a hemp haulage rope. Until 1910 the line was operated by human or animal power. Over the years the line has been modified and rebuilt several times, most recently between 1988 and 1990. Today it uses steel rails and a steel cable. Traction is provided by an electric motor, and a closed circuit television system is used to monitor its operation
The above is the description I found.
I hope I havn't given too much away.
Are you talking about Mt. Washington Cog? Or one of the funiculars in PA, like Johnstown or Pittsburgh?
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The Railway that I am looking for is a funicular.
PS Also look at what I said to Henry & Southern. I also gave the Dolkos wagonway several months ago.
daveklepper Oh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in Greece.
Oh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in Greece.
This railway still exists has been updated with electricity and is in use today.
From the description it is believed to have started on sled skids on wood than after a few years (less than 20) changed to flanged wooden wheels on wooden rails.
Southerngreen1401 In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad. But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags. The Best friend blew up in December of 1830. All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.
In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad. But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags. The Best friend blew up in December of 1830. All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.
Henry6
Do you mean incorporated railroad? Do you mean just in the USA? There were wooden rails and horse or mule or ox drawn carts in mines and quarries in the mid1700's in many places. If incorporated and USA, Southerngreen1401 above is probably right or close to it.
Not an incorporated railroad. It is only 620 ft long.
Predates any of the above by appox 3 centuries
For a quick question I'll throw this one out :
Is there any update or a new question?
I saw there was a new question here. My apoligies for not getting back here earlier.
Any clues or updates to the current question?
KCSfan In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route? Mark
In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route?
I am unaware of a train named the Sunracer, but my gut reaction thinks that this may be a named airline run that was part of a rail-air transcontinental service. The railroads did mention the airline runs within their OG sections and throughout the 1930's a number of airline fights were named.
KCSfan It's been 10 days since IGN was declared winner of the last question so while waiting for him I'll throw out a new one to ponder over. In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route? Mark
It's been 10 days since IGN was declared winner of the last question so while waiting for him I'll throw out a new one to ponder over.
In January of 1930, the PRR forwarded the westbound passengers from New York to Port Columbus in the Airway Limited (1st 65, which ran NYC to Indianapolis; 2nd 65 was the American) and the eastbound passengers were carried in the American. The equipment listing shows a NYC-Indianapolis and Washington-Indianapolis sleeper in each direction) The SFe forwarded the eastbound passengers in the Scout from Clovis to Waynoka, and the westbound passengers in the Missionary from Waynoka to Clovis. This information is found in the airline section of the Guide. Thr SFe section does show an overnight sleeper in each direction between the two cities. Two nights by train and two days by plane NYC/Washington-Los Angeles.
Johnny
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