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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, February 20, 2012 9:58 AM

So, IGN, next question?

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Posted by KCSfan on Monday, February 20, 2012 4:58 PM

Oops, I need to correct a mistake I made in my last reply. The Denver & Intermountain's narrow guage lines were not 46" but were 42" (3'-6"). This was also the gauge of the Denver Tramways lines over whose local streetcar rails the D&I ran inside the city.

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Posted by KCSfan on Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:53 PM

It's been 10 days since IGN was declared winner of the last question so while waiting for him I'll throw out a new one to ponder over.

In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route?

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Posted by FlyingCrow on Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:47 PM

I'm trying not to cheat, Mark, by looking this up in my 1930 guide.    However, this was the new name applied to the former Airway Limited....  PRR - TAT - ATSF service by plane and train, cross country.   

Probably not what you are looking for.

However, in 1930 through a merger, TAT would change it's name to Transcontinental & Western Air, 

TWA

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:05 PM

KCSfan

It's been 10 days since IGN was declared winner of the last question so while waiting for him I'll throw out a new one to ponder over.

In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route?

Mark

This sounds like a train that the IC-CG-ACL-FEC would have operated between Chicago and Miami--but you indicate that it was operated by only one railroad.

In January of 1930, the PRR forwarded the westbound passengers from New York to Port Columbus in the Airway Limited (1st 65, which ran NYC to Indianapolis; 2nd 65 was the American) and the eastbound passengers were carried in the American. The equipment listing shows a NYC-Indianapolis and Washington-Indianapolis sleeper in each direction) The SFe forwarded the eastbound passengers in the Scout from Clovis to Waynoka, and the westbound passengers in the Missionary from Waynoka to Clovis. This information is found in the airline section of the Guide. Thr SFe section does show an overnight sleeper in each direction between the two cities. Two nights by train and two days by plane NYC/Washington-Los Angeles.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Monday, February 27, 2012 12:56 PM

KCSfan

In 1930 Official Guides what railroad listed the schedule of the "Sunracer" and what was its route?

Mark

I am unaware of a train named the Sunracer, but my gut reaction thinks that this may be a named airline run that was part of a rail-air transcontinental service.  The railroads did mention the airline runs within their OG sections and throughout the 1930's a number of airline fights were named.

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Monday, March 5, 2012 9:53 AM

Any clues or updates to the current question?

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, April 8, 2012 2:34 PM

Is there any update or a new question?

I saw there was a new question here. My apoligies for not getting back here earlier.

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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:36 PM

For a quick question I'll throw this one out :

 

What is believed to be the oldest railway still in operation. Based on written record?

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Posted by Southerngreen1401 on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:11 PM

In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad.  But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags.  The Best friend blew up in December of 1830.  All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:22 PM

Do you mean incorporated railroad?  Do you mean just in the USA?   There were wooden rails and horse or mule or ox drawn carts in mines and quarries in the mid1700's in many places.  If incorporated and USA, Southerngreen1401 above is probably right or close to it.

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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:30 PM

Southerngreen1401

In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad.  But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags.  The Best friend blew up in December of 1830.  All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.

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Do you mean incorporated railroad?  Do you mean just in the USA?   There were wooden rails and horse or mule or ox drawn carts in mines and quarries in the mid1700's in many places.  If incorporated and USA, Southerngreen1401 above is probably right or close to it.

Not an incorporated railroad. It is only 620 ft long.

Predates any of the above by appox 3 centuries

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:08 AM

Oh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in Greece.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:40 PM

daveklepper

Oh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in Greece.

  A little more modern than that.

This railway still exists has been updated with electricity and is in use today.

From the description it is believed to have started on sled skids on wood than after a few years (less than 20) changed to flanged wooden wheels on wooden rails.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:43 PM

PS Also look at what I said to Henry & Southern.    I also gave the Dolkos wagonway several months ago.

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Posted by narig01 on Friday, May 11, 2012 10:04 PM

The Railway that I am looking for is a funicular.

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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:52 PM

Are you talking about Mt. Washington Cog?  Or one of the funiculars in PA, like Johnstown or Pittsburgh?

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Posted by narig01 on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 AM

Just a recap about the current question and answer:

What is believed to be the oldest railway still in operation. Based on written record?

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    Southerngreen1401:

    In the southeast CSX is the oldest from the B & O Railroad.  But Norfolk Southern is just as old becase of Southern history which has the South Carolina Canal and Railway was also formed in 1827 by the state of South Carolina, which is one of the fallen flags.  The Best friend blew up in December of 1830.  All this information can be found at Charleston or State musuem.

Henry6

Do you mean incorporated railroad?  Do you mean just in the USA?   There were wooden rails and horse or mule or ox drawn carts in mines and quarries in the mid1700's in many places.  If incorporated and USA, Southerngreen1401 above is probably right or close to it.

My response to the above:

Not an incorporated railroad. It is only 620 ft long.

Predates any of the above by appox 3 centuries

Oh, you are talking about something in Roman times, a road paved with stones with grooves either deliberate or resulting from frequent passage of standard chariots and wagons across and Insthamus between the Agean and Mediterzinian seas in Greece

A little more modern than that.

This railway still exists has been updated with electricity and is in use today.

From the description it is believed to have started on sled skids on wood than after a few years (less than 20) changed to flanged wooden wheels on wooden rails.

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The line was first documented in 1515 by Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxx, who would later become Xxxxxxxx of Xxxxxxxx. These dates make it the oldest known funicular in the world, and possibly the oldest existing railway.

xx

The line may have originally used sled-style runners, although wooden rails and wheels were soon adopted. Haulage was by a hemp haulage rope. Until 1910 the line was operated by human or animal power. Over the years the line has been modified and rebuilt several times, most recently between 1988 and 1990. Today it uses steel rails and a steel cable. Traction is provided by an electric motor, and a closed circuit television system is used to monitor its operation

 

The above is the description I found.

I hope I havn't given too much away.

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Posted by narig01 on Friday, May 18, 2012 4:34 PM

Question,  Should I post the answer and move on?

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:15 AM

Is it the Naples furnicula that is referred to in an Italian opera song?

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:34 AM

The one I am looking for is further north. At least your on the right continent.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:27 AM

Swiss?

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:49 AM

You would have to drive appox 200 miles east.

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:08 PM

This is what I'd found on oldest railway still in existance: The Reisszug connecting the Hohensalzburg Castle in Salzburg, Austria.   Believed to date to some time around 1500.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reisszug.

I was trying to get something easy to restart the column.   I'll have something else posted in a couple of minutes.

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:14 PM

Next question:

What is the oldest U.S. railroad still operating under its original name and charter.

1.Hint It is an intrastate carrier that to my memory operates operates in 4 counties.

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Posted by Southerngreen1401 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:38 PM

Union Pacific

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Posted by FlyingCrow on Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:20 PM

The Long Island Railroad

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:47 PM

FlyingCrow

The Long Island Railroad

Ding  Ding. We have a winner.

The Long Island Railroad dates to  April 24 1834.  It has operated under the same name and charter since. The LIRR has operated exclusively within NY state on Long Island. And til Penn Station opened it had operated only on Long Island.

         When I was looking for a question my first thought was to ask about commuter railroads and then when I was reading the MTA's info on the LIRR and I thought why not

       I will admit to being side tracked by the other question which no one got.

Any Flying Crow take it away.

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Posted by FlyingCrow on Monday, May 21, 2012 8:38 PM

Name all the states or political territories that have been served, at one time or another, by the Missouri-Kansas-Texas and predecessors.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:37 AM

Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennesee, Mexico, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas

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