wanswheel TZ, I'm sorry for changing my answer (Century and Broadway 1938). Please ask the next question. Mike
TZ, I'm sorry for changing my answer (Century and Broadway 1938). Please ask the next question.
Mike
Johnny
DeggestywanswheelTZ, I'm sorry for changing my answer (Century and Broadway 1938). Please ask the next question.TZ, please, do you have a question?
wanswheelTZ, I'm sorry for changing my answer (Century and Broadway 1938). Please ask the next question.
But we are here so here is the question --->
What railroad's major shop facilities were eventually shut down due to an unfortunate set of circumstances (took years for this to unfold) that stared when a hopper car's brakes failed and the car smashed into (almost through) the rear wall.
Name the shops and the railroad.
Edit - crumb. I have to retract that question. It is not older than 50 years.. Grumble...
Ummmm -
In 1873 the CB&Q railroad looked to connect to the Twin Cities. They started several railroads to do this. Some building south, others building north, and some in between. While these railroads had the best route to St. Paul the CB&Q did not end up with it. Which railroad got the route (ignoring recent mega mergers)?
Texas ZepherIn 1873 the CB&Q railroad looked to connect to the Twin Cities. They started several railroads to do this. Some building south, others building north, and some in between. While these railroads had the best route to St. Paul the CB&Q did not end up with it. Which railroad got the route (ignoring recent mega mergers)?
The Milwaukee Road
wanswheelThe Milwaukee Road
Your turn.
On what railroads could folks shuffle off to Buffalo in 1901?
WABASH, LACKAWANNA, ERIE, NEW YORK CENTRAL (INCLDING MAIN LINE,WEST SHORE, RW&O [HOJACK EAST ALONG THE ONTARIO SHORE], CANADIAN SOUTHERN [TO DETROIT], LINE TO WARREN, PA, AND OTHER SMALLER LINES), NICKLE PLATE, PRR, B&O (BR&P), LV, TH&B, CN, AND PROBABLY A HAND FUL OF INTERURBAN LINES TOO.
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Henry, whatever is on this map, including the New York, Chicago And.
http://docs.unh.edu/NY/buff01ne.jpg
You're up.
WOW...I just looked at the map you posted and I am flabergasted! I worked right off the top of my head having never seen the map and I was just as vague on the interburban's as the map is!!!! I don't see Wabash but I know virtually all roads of the northeast were represented in Buffalo at sometime, somehow by some circumstance or another.
Let me sleep on things tonight so as to conjour up someting sensable.
Did everyone get a good night's sleep? Good. Not sure I really did, but did come up with a new question anyway...
What famous railroad president is buried next to what famous author? Where?
http://www.historyofredding.com/HRtwainquotes.htm
It was a surprise to me in spite of it being so logical! My wife and I were driving around and saw a sign that said, "Mark Twain's Gravesite". So followed into the site and found Jervis B. Langdon shoulder to shoulder with him. wans, you didn' t name the city...do you have a map or a pic of that to finish the answer?
Elmira, my favorite Statler Brothers song.
What train was named so that you'd know which two railroads ran it?
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wanswheelWhat train was named so that you'd know which two railroads ran it?
I don't know that it was given the name so you would know which two roads ran it, but the name Zephyr Rocket identified the train as being operated by the Q and the Rock Island/
Johnny, that's right, you're up. Now remember, this is this thread and that other thread is the other thread. Which thread is this? I forgot.
What winter-season train of about fifty years ago had a name similar to that of a year-round train that was operated by the same railroad?
The SR's Royal Palm and New Royal; Palm running between Cincy and Jacksonville with through cars to Miami.
Mark
KCSfan The SR's Royal Palm and New Royal; Palm running between Cincy and Jacksonville with through cars to Miami. Mark
In the off season, the Royal Palm carried through cars between Detroit and Miami. In the winter season, the Royal Palm carried a ten or eight section, restaurant-lounge car; in the off season, it carried the observation car that the New Royal Palm carried. Also, the FEC operated the New Royal Palm as a separate train, with its own schedule. 1953-54 was the last season of the New Royal Palm.
Yes, this is the only instance I know of in which two trains with similar names were operated by the same road.
Next question.
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I think the two questions threads have been mixed up here...so I am going to jump in and try to straighten things out:
. All of you waiting to board the Royal Palm or any train going south, please go to the station on the other side of the tracks...do not rush, the train will not leave without you but please be quick as we have to make a movement on this track.
Thank you.
Wans, you got it all right with a pic of Samuel Clemens apparently enjoying his view of the Chemung Valley up at the farm. (Er, by the way, the Statler Bros. song was "Elvira", but I interspersed the lyrics with "Elmira" a few times for kicks, too.)
Now that the crowds are out of the way, we may resume with you, wans, in the engieer's seat: conduct:
Henry,
Thanks for pointing that out. I've deleted my question and will repost it if Degesty declares me the winner of his latest question on the other thread. I think it would help if we changed the name of one of the two threads to better distinguish between the two and thus eliminate future mix ups.
Classic Trains questions
3-14-09 8:08 am MT, Henry6 asked, " What famous railroad president is buried next to what famous author? Where?"
3-14-09 5:28 pm MT, Wanswheel answered, and asked, "What train was named so that you’d know which railroads ran it?"
3-14-09 6:10 pm MT, Deggesty answered the question.
3-14-09 6:31 pm MT, Wanswheel confirmed his answer.
3-14:09 6:59 pm MT, Deggesty asked the question, "What winter-season train of about fifty years ago had a name similar to that of a year-round train that was operated by the same railroad?"
3-14-09 7:27 pm MT, KCSFan answered the question.
3-14-09 8:08 pm MT, Deggesty confirmed the answer.
Please, I don’t think that either thread has been corrupted by the other one.
Mark, you now have the responsibility for answering two questions (this thread and Classic Railroad). Don’t try to smoke both cigars at the same time.
As I said before I've already deleted the question I had in mind in response to Henry's admonition and have reposted it on the "History Quiz" thread in the Trains forum. I'll just pass for now and let someone else have a turn here.
KCSfan As I said before I've already deleted the question I had in mind in response to Henry's admonition and have reposted it on the "History Quiz" thread in the Trains forum. I'll just pass for now and let someone else have a turn here. Mark
Deggesty KCSfan As I said before I've already deleted the question I had in mind in response to Henry's admonition and have reposted it on the "History Quiz" thread in the Trains forum. I'll just pass for now and let someone else have a turn here. Mark This is wide open for the next question--the next poster who has a question gets to pose it. Johnny
Okay, here's one: Briefly explain how streetcars in N. America came to be called "streetcars" and not "trams," as in England.
Bonus Point: Give an example of a transit device called "tram" in North America. (Hint: It's modern).
Here in the US we had Streetcars and Interurbans.
In Vancouver Canada they had Streetcars and Trams. The Trams were the hevay interurbans operated by the British Columbia Electric. And the streetcars were PCC type operated on the streets of Vancouver. The trams were about twice the size of the streetcars and any collision between the two always resulted in the streetcars getting the short end of the stick. I have no idea how streetcars came to be called streetcars.
Al - in - Stockton
The forerunners of streetcars were drawn by horses and I believe were always referred to as horse cars, not streetcars, When they were electrified the name streetcar came into use to distinguish them from the "steam cars" that generally ran on private railroad ROW"s not down the middle of city streets. I believe streetcar and trolley (or trolley car) are synonomous and can be used interchangably. People in the city where I live spoke of riding the trolley and all stops were designated by signs that read "Trolley Stop"
While this sounds reasonable, the real origin of the name, streetcar, may well be more complex than my simple answer.
al-in-chgoBonus Point: Give an example of a transit device called "tram" in North America. (Hint: It's modern).
The idea of this is not modern, but calling it a "tram" may be. There is a tram (powered by an electric motor) at Snowbird Ski & Summer Resort (we resort to it in summertime only; it's twenty-four miles away and ten degrees cooler), which is up Little Cottonwood Canyon. The tram takes you about 4000 feet up from Snowbird Center to the top of Hidden Peak. You can ride the tram back down or, in the winter, ski down, or, when the trails are open, walk down. The cars are suspended from cables, and do not touch the ground at any place. In Italy, such were called "funiculars."
I have no idea as to why some people will call a streetcar a "tram"; I had always thought of it as being akin to calling the hood of a car a "bonnet."
Deggesty The idea of this is not modern, but calling it a "tram" may be. There is a tram (powered by an electric motor) at Snowbird Ski & Summer Resort (we resort to it in summertime only; it's twenty-four miles away and ten degrees cooler), which is up Little Cottonwood Canyon. The tram takes you about 4000 feet up from Snowbird Center to the top of Hidden Peak. You can ride the tram back down or, in the winter, ski down, or, when the trails are open, walk down. The cars are suspended from cables, and do not touch the ground at any place. In Italy, such were called "funiculars." I have no idea as to why some people will call a streetcar a "tram"; I had always thought of it as being akin to calling the hood of a car a "bonnet." Johnny
Johnny's reply reminded me that cable car operations are often referred to as tramways. However, I don't think that's what Al has in mind. Don't the Brits also call the trunk of a car the "boot"?
KCSfan Johnny's reply reminded me that cable car operations are often referred to as tramways. However, I don't think that's what Al has in mind. Don't the Brits also call the trunk of a car the "boot"?
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