Two-tone grey was also used on the SF Overland Lmtd. Instead of UP yellow.
I guess its Texas Zephyrs turn to ask the next question. The Cascade was initially two tone grey like the Lark and don't forget the San Joaquin Daylight in Daylight colors. Since the SP owned the T&NO I guess you would have to include those two train as well under Daylight painted equipment that operated between Dallas and Houston the Sunbeam and Hustler.
Al - in - Stockton
passengerfanI guess its Texas Zephyrs turn to ask the next question.
Many thanks to Texas Zephyr for deferring to me.
In the diesel era, the Chicago River & Indiana RR briefly held an unusual distinction. What was it?
CSSHEGEWISCHIn the diesel era, the Chicago River & Indiana RR briefly held an unusual distinction. What was it?
Texas Zepher CSSHEGEWISCHIn the diesel era, the Chicago River & Indiana RR briefly held an unusual distinction. What was it?WAG - They were the only railroad that had a roster of only Lima built locomotives?
Close enough. In the early 1960's, CR&I was the only Class 1 railroad with an all-Lima roster.
Texas Zephyr, it's your question.
The Denver South Park & Pacific, Union Pacific, Union Pacific Denver & Gulf, and Colorado Southern railroads had Pullman built sleepers in rosters until about 1892. What was the only narrow gauge train that regularly ran a Pullman sleeper (I think it was an 8-1) after that time?
I'll guess that the D&RG still operated sleepers on its narrow gauge lines after 1892.
Johnny
As Johnny has already said I'm fairly sure it was the D&RGW. If I had to guess on what train, I'd say the San Juan.
Mark
How about the CN Newfoundland narrow gauge they operated sleeping cars right up until the Newfie Bullet was discontinued.
KCSfanAs Johnny has already said I'm fairly sure it was the D&RGW. If I had to guess on what train, I'd say the San Juan.
KCSfan take it away.
passengerfanHow about the CN Newfoundland narrow gauge they operated sleeping cars right up until the Newfie Bullet was discontinued.
The White Pass and Yukon operated parlor cars, I know. I do not know enough of its early history to say that it operated day trains only. The June 1916 Guide shows day service only; the June 1893 issue does not have any mention of the road.
Also, the June 1916 Guide has no indication of the equipment of the trains on the Reid Newfoundland road. The representation of the Newfoundland Ry in the June 1930 issue ahs the notation "sleeping and dining cars on all express trains." Of course, in later years we know that the road did carry sleepers between Port-aux-Basques and St. John's. According to Wikipedia, the Caribou (aka Newfie Bullet) ran until 1969. The railroad was abandoned in 1988. I discussed the action with a native Newfoundlander who worked for the same company that I worked for. Some of the cars were converted from 3' 6" gauge to 3' gauge, and sold to the White Pass and Yukon.
The sleepers (no description), according to the June 1893 Guide, on the San Juan were through cars from Denver to Durango--overnight to Alamosa, and day to Durango. In 1916, the sleepers (standard) ran only east of Alamosa.
Just as Al - in - Stockton, I seldom think of narrow gauge as having been laid outside the U. S. A.
This question has to do with the Milwaukee Road's southern Indiana branch. Shortly after leaving The Bensenville Yard Milw Road trains ran on trackage rights over another railroad before regaining Milw owned tracks.
1. What was this other railroad over which the Milw Rd had trackage rights?.
2. Between what two points did Milw Rd trains operate operate over this other road?
3. What was the name of the railroad that the Milw acquired to gain access to southern Indiana?
KCSfan1. What was this other railroad over which the Milw Rd had trackage rights?.
TZ,
1. Not the Pennsy. Yes, the question refers to days when the Milw owned and operated the line - say the 1940 and 50's for purposes of the question.
2. I'm not sure about the street location. Can you name the town on the northern end? Also the trackage rights extended beyond Chicago Heights on the south end.
3. Close enough. It was actually the Chicago Terre Haute and Southeastern.
Keep trying.
KCSfan1. Not the Pennsy.
2. I'm not sure about the street location. Can you name the town on the northern end?
1. Not the IC either.
2. Yep, Franklin Park on the north end but not Kankakee on the south. You were closer when you first answered Chicago Heights.
MILW operated over the IHB/B&OCT between Norpaul and Faithorn.
CSSHEGEWISCHMILW operated over the IHB/B&OCT between Norpaul and Faithorn.
Paul and TZ,
I just don't know about Norpaul and the IHB. I always thought the trains were routed from Bensenville over the Milw to Franklin Park then over the B&OCTRR to Faithorn.
Since you both answered parts of the question, which ever of you has another ready feel free to ask it.
I remember Faithorn from the post WW2 period when I hung out a few times there. As I remember there was no town, just a wooden Milw roundhouse and outlying structures and a train order and register office. Trains were headed by 2-8-2's and the engines bringing them down from Bensenville would be turned and they and their crews return on a northbound run. Other crews and engines would handle the trains south of Faithorn.
1911 map shows Galewood Yard and Western Ave. Yard
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/maps/chi1900/G4104-C6P3-1911-C4.html
Mike
KCSfanSince you both answered parts of the question, which ever of you has another ready feel free to ask it.
The South Shore Line currently operates on trackage rights over the Illinois Central between Kensington and Randolph Street. Which steam road had trackage rights over South Shore and between which two points?
CSSHEGEWISCH The South Shore Line currently operates on trackage rights over the Illinois Central between Kensington and Randolph Street. Which steam road had trackage rights over South Shore and between which two points?
Paul,
I believe it might have been the C&O (of Indiana) between Hammond and Kensington because I remember seeing C&O Mikes at the IC's 23rd St. roundhouse.
KCSfan CSSHEGEWISCH The South Shore Line currently operates on trackage rights over the Illinois Central between Kensington and Randolph Street. Which steam road had trackage rights over South Shore and between which two points? Paul, I believe it might have been the C&O (of Indiana) between Hammond and Kensington because I remember seeing C&O Mikes at the IC's 23rd St. roundhouse. Mark
Not quite, C&O passenger trains terminated at Hammond and C&O of Indiana used NKP Calumet Yard for its terminal.
Just a WAG: B&O from Kensington to Portage? - a.s.
al-in-chgo Just a WAG: B&O from Kensington to Portage? - a.s.
Getting close but not quite there.
The NYC Michigan Central line to its connection at Kensington with the IC . Not sure where the MC would have gotten onto the South Shore - I'll say Hammond but it could have Gary or Porter.
KCSfan The NYC Michigan Central line to its connection at Kensington with the IC . Not sure where the MC would have gotten onto the South Shore - I'll say Hammond but it could have Gary or Porter. Mark
Michigan Central picked up the IHB at Ivanhoe to Calumet Park where MC then used its own branch to Kensington.
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