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Wednesday's Witticism
Circuit-ridin' preachers are so poor that if they didn't fast twice a week, they'd starve to death.
G'day Gents!
Hump Day fo the working stiffs in the crowd! So, why not join us for breakfast before trudging off to your labors
The smell of freshly baked pastries ‘n our special blend coffee is enough to jump start the appetite for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast! So, let's get a move on . . .
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Tuesday - August 5th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 3 - Pete <pwolfe> at 10:23 AM ‘n 4:25 PM: A two-fer from our Bar Chandler and ONLY daytime customer! Surely a mixed bag for our little Watering Hole by the Wayside . . .
Many thanx for jumping in with a morning visit to keep things perking in Shane's absence . . . As is most evident, it takes ALL of us to pitch in if we are to remain vibrant ‘round here.
Four ‘n three in terms of fotos provided! Something about the name, Green Arrow that conjures up some good images - smart looking loco, fer sure, fer sure! Monster drivers visible on a couple of those shots.
Nice that there are still remnants of what used to be with the Wabash in Missouri. Evidence that you are putting your time to use - wisely!
Sorry, but I have no data to help you out with the timeframe for those Posters . . . especially the NH one. Think 50s . . .
We looked at the binders for Railroad Man's Magazine at the Barriger Library . . . that may be where your recollections are from . . . All part of the evolution to the Railroad Magazine, back in the day . . .
Oh, noooooooooo - not another one of Pete's Infamous Quiz Questions! <arrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh> May as well ask how many spokes in the rear wheel of your first bicycle . . . <geesh> Oh well, here's my guess: Hogwarts Castle was the name . . Hogwarts Express on the headboard . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_4900_Class_5972_Olton_Hall
You'll luv this - when I did a Dogpile<a search engine to calm down the censor ‘n hall monitor!!> search on 'Beerius Appearus', it came back to "Our" Place IV!!!! Suspicions confirmed, eh We'll "live" forever in the Ether!! <grin> Of course I DO understand your tongue in cheek reference - Latin at that! <grin>
Thanx again for your continuing ‘n most valuable support for "Our" Place - and the ROUND!
Page 3 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:47 PM: As much as I'd enjoy a return to our Tuesday Theme for the Day routine, I just don't see it happening. We haven't the participation, for it took pretty near everyone to participate. If you recall, a "theme" would be selected in advance - the guys would prepare some responses ‘n off we'd go. Don't see that happening any more . . . was enjoyable while it lasted, though.
Some very PROMISING signs: After a deluge last night, the basement remains DRY!! Could it be Might we be rid of the problem I'll hold off declaring VICTORY ‘til at least a couple of more bouts of hard rain . . .
Man oh man, the arrogance factor is alive ‘n well up your way <too>! Yeah, everyone who supports a project like the one discussed with tax dollars certainly should be outraged IF the end result excludes more than it attracts. <barf> Hopefully some common sense planning will prevail ‘n to the Devil with those who pander to the "elitists" in the crowd. THEY can well afford a limo from the airport to downtown . . . <geesh> I do think that in these times, twenty bucks for a non-stop trip on the rails isn't at all bad by comparison with using the highways . . . but it surely seems counterproductive to rule out any stops along the route - especially at major population centers <centres>. Oh well, what do I know, eh
VERY surprised you didn't pick up on this latest shirking of duty get-a-way by the Bar Chandler! Hmmmm.
Many thanx for the visit ‘n chat!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Tom
Good evening Leon. In for a relaxing glass or two of Keith's.Another hot one today followed by a couple really big thunder storms.
Tom-Good to hear that you may have the leak problem figured out and hopefully beat. Will keep the thumbs up and fingers crossed for you on that one.Nice looking magazine covers today as well.
I'm glad that you liked the re-read.Who knows perhaps we can maybe get back to those theme days ( or weeks )
I saw today that the Pearson airport rail links in the news again ( bad again of coarse ) seems that the neigbours are a bit riled as the plan right now is that the Provincial government is going to shell out 300 million to build the infrastructure.But the equipment and the profits are going to be the sole domain of SNC Lavelin the line operator. They are envisioning a non stop airport to Union station link at $20 bucks a head with no stops in between.They are billing it as an all buisness man's (buisiness class ) link instead of a straight run for everyone.So the taxpayers are a bit PO'd they want it to have regular service stops in between and be part of the regular public transit link. So the battle continues. I can see their point though,public money funding and building a transport link for only some people ? I can see why the debates heated up again.
Pete-So survived another bout in Vito's chair eh,well what does not kills you makes you stronger they say.Great looking shots in both posts today.Nice looking colourfull steamers as always.Nice to see the stations as well.
335 was a powerfull unit it was classed a type B 50 ton locomotive. It's horsepower would be the equivilent to a mid range diesel powered GP type locomotive..It and L2 are long term projects as at the moment the mainline can't handle that heavy a vehicle constantly moving over it as it's only 90lbs rail.1326 is a crew and customer favourite,mostly due to it's age and importance to the collection and that it is an infrequently used unit.
Unfortunatly there's no way to put the rails back in in Gravenhurst the towns grown up along the old ROW.Still if the link was still there what an interesting display that could be.
Allan-Interesting link on the Kiwi Rail. Hopefully as time goes on it becomes a bigger and better and ultra modern operation.
Rob
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH
TOM Great to talk with you yesterday, yes a couple of TrainWreck Saloon brews would have gone down well to combat the heat we are having at the present. Really glad it was OK today as well.
Many thanks for the Wabash Back in the Day, an interesting read. It is sad to see how much of the original Wabash ROW has been abandoned today though. The name still lives on though on some bridges and old stations like this one in Columbia MO. part of the Wabash line north of the station is in use for Columbia Terminal, which connects with the NS at Centralia. The Wabash name can be made out on the front of the old Columbia station when enlarged
That is a good map and I see the Wabash reached Glasgow Mo where it joined the Chicago and Alton now KCS line.
I think the Wabash had some of the most attractive drumheads.
Enjoyed the RR Advertisements from the Classic Era. The artwork on them is marvelous I like the art deco style on the NYC and the detail in the Switzerland one. I wonder what year the New Haven Boston poster was from I like its style as well.
Many thanks for the links to the Johnny Cash videos, not only a great singer but also a good reader as well as in the 2nd video.
Great set of Classic Covers, not sure if I have seen the Railroad Man's Magazine before. I see on the July 1936 cover of Railroad Stories in a painting of that proposed railroad for moving ships across land we mentioned at the bar a while ago. I don't think we had magazines with just railway stories in Britain although there was a comic with writing as opposed to cartoons, called The ‘Wizard' that usually had a couple of railway stories in it each issue, perhaps Allan can recall the Wizard, I think it stopped publication in the 1960s.
NICK Many thanks for the Great Western photos both old and new. I' m sure Great Western will especially enjoy the P&DR ones.
ROB Glad you were able to get the fence finished despite the hot weather. Another hot day here but it should cool off a bit after a cold front goes through tonight.
It is good that L1 and L2 were saved at least some parts of L3 were saved so that it can help in the restoration of L2.
Many thanks for the photos from your museum. Locomotive 335 looks quite powerful, I bet car 1326 is a favorite with the museums volunteers.
It was great to see and read the interesting Boat Trains of Northern Ontario, it seems a long while ago to me now since we had the theme days. It if a portion of line was kept I bet it would be a great tourist attraction connecting with the RMS Sequin and Wenonah today.
I see PSV have produced a railroad atlas of Ontario showing past and present lines.
ALLAN Many thanks for the link to Kiwi Rail.
The driver on Sir Nigel said he had to rein the locomotive in, as she wanted to go faster. It will be interesting to see what the maximum speed limit will be for the A1 on the main line. The maximum speed for steam is 75MPH for the larger locomotives running on the main line now, but is the A1 is a new locomotive so perhaps will be allowed to go faster, I am sure the A1 will be easily capable of 90 MPH.
Watched most of the AB v Aus game last evening, a good game and a good result.
I though it is time for a QUIZ QUESTION(what's that groaning I hear), no, an easy one. GWR Hall class No 5972 Olton Hall, in the photo below, is a film star now. Question, what is her 'Stage Name' or the name of the train she hauls in the films CLUE 5972 is painted red for the films. PRIZE one go with the magic wand with the magic words 'Beerius Appearus'.
Well after that I had better get a round in please RUTH.
Pete.
Finally made it back from a looooooooooong morning. All's well for those who've been following this via Email . . .
I see Pete's been "in" to help out in Shane's "slot"with some fine Brit RR Pix!
With so few to pick up the slack during daylite, it's most appreciated ‘n helpful to have guys like the Wolfman around. BUT, having said that - take note: He's skeedaddling out for the weekend! Yep - won't be doing his chores on Friday nite thru Saturday. Probably will even be late for HIS B'day on Monday! <geesh>
Now Arriving on Track #1
A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!
Number Eight
Caveat: Use of the images presented is made under the provisions of Public Domain. There is no intent to profit or otherwise benefit from the display of these images except for personal pleasure.
(1) RR Man's Magazine - Who Dares? - Dec 14, 1918
(2) RR Stories - The Devil's Sinkhole - Jul 1933
(3) RR Stories - A Short Cut for Ships - Jul 1936
(4) RR Magazine - Link and Pin - May 1941
(5) RR Magazine - A Pot of Tallow for the Iron Horse - Mar 1937
Enjoy!
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH.
I thought I would drop off a couple of photos this AM.. The last of the LNER engines for now, these three are the only survivors of their classes in the UK.
Sir Nigel Gresley's V2 class 2-6-2 60800(LNER number 4771) ' Green Arrow' of 1936, the loco was named for the Green Arrow fast freight service from London to Edinburgh. The V2s gained a very good reputation during the war for their haulage capacity. In 1958 60800 was shedded at King's Cross shed in London.
In preservation days Green Arrow was a very popular performer on main line tours. Here 60800 is at Carlisle before hauling a special over the Settle & Carlisle line.
A Gresley 1932 rebuild of Great Eastern Railway CME S.D. Holden's 1911 design, B12 4-6-0 No.8572(BR No. 61572) at Leicester North on the preserved Great Central Railway.8572 was at the East Anglian shed of Ipswich in 1958.
The only surviving GCR frieght locomotive in the UK,class O4 2-8-0 No. 63601, again at Leicester North. The class was introduced in 1911, a J.G. Robinson design. Several of this class of locomotive saw service in WWI, it is believed some of the class still exist in Australia. In 1958 63601 worked off the ex GC shed of Frodingham Lincolnshire.
Back later.
And the days are dwindling down to a precious few . . . It's TUESDAY again, the most non-descript of ‘em all. <groan> BUT, take heart me hearties - there's fresh Joe in the urns, pastries beggin' to be devoured along with <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts to be ordered. So all's not lost!
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Monday - August 4th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 2 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:30 AM: And along comes our Resident WVA Connection on this hot ‘n humid day to refresh us all with chat ‘n drink!
Petrol had dropped to $3.62 <rounded> when we came back from dinner on Sunday evening - "they" are telling us to expect it to keep doing so ‘til Labor Day. Who ever thought any of us would be "relieved" at prices like those, eh <barf>
You may wish to know that the MockingDoves frequenting our nest in the front of our home, are now on iteration #4 - YES - three sets of "twins" have been hatched thus far this year in that nest . . . most prolific breeders, eh Mama bird #4 is occupying the premises at present . . .
When I open up my latest issue of Classic Trains mag, it will be a snowy day in Hades. Meaning: I'm so <censored> far behind in reading, that I've totally lost track of the last one I read! <geesh> A terrible dilemma that I must work on . . . my reading habits are kinda like my beer drinking - comes ‘n goes. I need motivation! Pete is fine for the latter - but what in the world "works" for the former Hmmmmmm.
I think we're "square" on Email exchanges - at least, hope so! <phew>
Oh yes, Nick said the RR BOOK RELAY 2008 will be made ready for mailing soon - I'll let you know when it's on the way. You had asked for mid-August . . . after you, it's Rob for September . . . the participation is moving along quite nicely.
Many thanx for the remembrance of CG Day, along with the ROUND ‘n quarters! Not to worry, Mate . . . we'll be here upon your return.
Page 2 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:35 PM: A "live" chat ‘n a fine PM Post - what could top that, eh Hmmmmmmmm - a couple of brews at the TrainWreck Saloon, for starters might do it! <grin>
Good to learn that our interim Governor General survived the rigors of the dentist <Vito's latest entry into the respectable world of pain infliction!> <yikes>
Yeah, methinks you are correct - we'd not stand a chance in Paris with the Gendarmerie! <uh oh>
Much to eavesdrop with your < I3 > Post ‘n I'm sure the guys will enjoy what you've had to offer!
I didn't give much thought to that Apache drumhead, but now that you mentioned it - could definitely have been the competitor to the AT&SF Chiefs . . . good call, Mate!
Appreciate the USCG birthday greeting!
Many thanx for the ROUND, visit ‘n always enlightening chat!
Page 2 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 7:37 PM <1:37 AM Tuesday GMT>: First off - many thanx for the flurry of Email - I'd say you've caught up ‘n done it in style!
Responses sent . . .
A whole bunch of fotos to savor . . . very diverse, very interesting ‘n very much appreciated!
Still have a little difficulty envisioning cowboys ‘n cowgirls in west Wales . . . but methinks after a pint or two, why it would be as "natural" as whistling Dixie in the hallowed halls of Parliament! <grin>
Back to your foto spread - I think the most intriguing of the lot is the one with the carriages along side that pile of coal. Quite a contrast! Also, no problem with visibility from inside that Devon Belle! Never saw one like that before . . .
Appreciate the visit, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Page 3 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 7:58 PM ‘n 8:51 PM: A two-fer from our Manager, who surely made up for "lost" time!
Working "fence" on your day off, eh Well, idle hands get into mischief, or so "they" say - and we surely wouldn't want to have to bail you out . . . much safer with that fence keeping you IN! <grin>
Enjoyed the line car shots ‘n of course the traction! I think you've "hooked" me . . .
Civic holiday Now there's one that slipped through these parts . . . hmmmmmmm. Isn't every day a . . . . nah, let's not go there! <grin>
No more "gifts" for turning the Page . . . see what it got us, eh <yikes>
Good "nite cap" with the reminiscing of when we had a "theme" for Tuesdays . . . hmmmm, but it was Monday when you Posted it! Hmmmmmm. Must be the heat! <grin> Anyway, nice piece - enjoyed it the second time ‘round as well.
I enjoyed our chat today - as always, we covered a bit of ground, eh Seems like summers up your way aren't a whole hulluvalot different from here - but I'd add this, we undoubtedly rack up far more oppressive days than you . . . after all, you're in the "frozen northland" or some may think! <grin>
Not sure - but we may have "discovered" the source of our water problem with the basement. A bit complicated to fully explain - but let me simply say, all of this MAY have been attributed to a blocked downspout drain system . . I figured the water simply backed up to where it forced its way into the underground near where the downspout connected to the "system" thereby becoming the mysterious SOURCE I've been looking for. All that would be needed would be a path to the wall - a ground hog or chip munk tunnel or simply cracks beneath the surface or even following root systems of shrubbery could've been the conduit, who knows The water wouldn't leak out going forward - but might have if forced into reverse direction.
Yeah, we have 3 such arrangements in the front of our home where the water gets rerouted away from the house onto the front lawn - sloping away, of course. There was about 3 feet of <crap> jammed tightly into what should have been the opening of that system. The lawn had completely overgrown it to where we had to "hunt" in order to find it. Anyway, cleaned it out ‘n now waiting for the next torrential downpour just to see IF that might have been the problem all along. Hope that chapter is closed . . . time will tell.
Enuf of that . . . many thanx for the visits ‘n good cheer!
Page 3 - Allan <Gunneral> at 10:10 PM <5:10 PM Tuesday NZ time>: Heartening to know that your vet's organizations have seen a "spike" - of course, as WE rack up the years, fewer ‘n fewer remain who have any recollection of those WWII years . . .
Checked out the KiwiRail link - too bad they didn't put up some fotos - but at least there's some background info - thanx!
So, Lonnie was a serviceman too, eh Makes me appreciate his music all the more!
And yes, I viewed that auto advertisement with Lonnie's singing - different, fer sure, fer sure. Lots of good links on that Page . . . glad you enjoyed ‘em!
Check these with Johnny Cash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1eW6SLwysI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_29qAoaxdE&feature=related
Stick with these - they begin slow but really move along!
Your Email was received ‘n passed along - thanx!
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND of Tui!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Rob. Had the same problem logging in as you the same day as you did. A really fine twofer spread of trolley pix from you and the Classic Steam #37 with all the info on the Boat Trains and the fine pix of the Muskoka fleet.
Eric. KiwiRail is what they call a government State Owned Enterprise as of July 1st 2008, their is some good info on this site together with links to OnTrack who are responsible for the track;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiwiRail
A nice selection of random pix including one of the 2nd Class Saloon in the snow.
CM3. Nice to see you in. "N Scale all the way" to quote that old Santa Fe ad.
Pete. Sir Nigel Gresley doing 72mph uphill on Stoke Bank with 13 coaches is truly amazing, a tribute to the restoration and maintenance crew who take such great care of him. It will be great to see the new "Tornado" doing something similar to that in the near future.
Nick. Good to see you in with a great selection of GWR pix mate.
Tom. That empty space in my last post was a PURE mistake, somehow my Word pasted my post TWICE! We had an increase in our WWII membership here after the 60th anniversary of the start of WWII, still a good few left who have never joined. Great to read you had heard of Lonnie Donegan over there, (he was a cannon cocker too!) he ended up playing for the Chris Barber Jazz Band for a long time till he passed on. Thanks for that great link to the YouTube video of Lonnie singing "The Rock Island Line" , that little Brit train looked a bit out of place with the song but it looked cute. Did you watch that Vauxhall (UK GM) Vectra version as well? Nice selection of flicks for the weekend including a re-run of "The Harvey Girls" which whetted my interest in the AT&SF RR. Fine posts in BITD #7 on the Wabash RR and #12 in the series of Classic RR Ads.
See ya, Allan
Uh oh looks like I started page three,that's almost nose bleed territory,we'll have to be carefull and have bar number five ready to roll.
Something from the absement from back when we had theme days every Tuesday
CLASSIC STEAM #37 BOAT TRAINS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO
Well , to round out today's theme of classic boat trains, here's my small piece to the larger story in the railroad world. Canada had several boat train operations,most were based around railway barges ferrying freight cars and passenegers accross straits or harbours as in the operations across the Detroit River or on some of the earlier CPR and BC rail operations to and from Vancouver Island. My home province has had some interesting rail and water operations as well, in the passenger end of the spectrum there are two or three that I can find some ready info on. I'm sure that there were more.
The first one I will touch on operated for a good 50 years in my own backyard right from my hometown. The interurban railway Thre Niagara St Catharines & Toronto operated boat train of a fashion.As disscussed before the NS&T operated interurban and street railway operations in the Niagara peninsula from the late 1880's to 1959,electric freight operations continued on until 1961.From the mid 1890's to 1953 you could ride the Niagara interurban from Port Colbourne on Lake erie down to Port Dalhousie on Lake Ontario ( St Catharines ) picking up the car in any of the communities along the line,Merriton , Thorold , Niagara Falls, etc and ride down to Lakeside Park which was along the lakeside it operated a full theme park and picnic areas, grandstand etc.In 1895 the Steamer Dalhousie City was chartered to bring people accross the lake from Toronto Island for summer excursions, soon this became a thriving cross lake service, eventually adding a second ship the Northumberland ( both owned by GT ) for years this was the thing to do on those hot muggy summer days, it also was a quick way to Toronto as the QEW was not yet built and it was faster taking the radial car-steamer route than a passenger train. By 1952 the NS&T owned Lakeside Park had burned down and became a run down mess and the cross lake services were ended.By this point as well the QEW and car ownership was a going concern and the two steamers were soon put to pasture, Dalhousie City actually burned at it's dock in 1949.
The second smaller operation was also tied in with one of Ontario's larger radial electric railway's. The London and Port Stanley RR operated frieght and passengers from the early 1900's to 1960 from Port Stanley to London. They also handled alot of coal traffic which was brought into them accross Lake Erie from Ashtibula.A lessor known run but it soldiered on until, the end, even after CN dieselized the L&PS hoppers of heating and locomotive coal were still brought in by car ferry. Once the CN fully dieselized in the early 1960's and newer electrical and natural gas heating lines were built in the cities served the needed heating coal shipments ceased, what little was still consumed came via insterstate - 401 highway trucks.
The final batch of boat trains I'll chat about is the GT/CN cottage country boat trains some vestiges of still exist today ( the boats not the trains ).For years cottagers and summer tourists to the Muskoka area of Ontario had to make the trip via train as hwy11 was still just a dream, what was built of it was generally unpassable and incomplete.CN's Bala subdivision provided the needed lifeline of goods and services to the near north and also brought in the tourists that built the cottages and the towns on the areas famous and picturesque lakes.The towns of Bracebridge ,Gravenhurst and Huntsville were all struggling to survive in the early part of the century, the farm land was poor but the timber stands mines and just the plain beautifull air and lakes was a major drawing card for people. The Muskoka River and it's three large land locked lakes Lake Muskoka , Lake Joeseph and Lake Rosseau were all deep navigable bodies of water and the Muskoka Navigation Company operated upto 20 steamers ( iron hull wood superstructures ) carrying people and goods. Naturally a partnership was formed with first the CnoR then the CN after the takeover to bring the supplies to the docks then onto the ships. From this arrangement many resorts and towns sprung up in what is still today one of the most sought after vacation areas in ontario, the only difference now is that you can drive to them, not so in the earlier part of the century.
In the heyday of the operations 1910-1940 vacationers from Southern Ontario of the Northeastern US could depat on on of seven daily trains from Toronto to the Muskoka Wharf at Gravenhurst( lake Muskoka ) or to Bala Park Wharf at Bracebridge ( Muskoka river / Lake Joe ) or conect to the CPR station right in Bala ( Lake Rosseau ) from these wharfs the train stations were located right on the docks, they could board one of the Muskoka Navigation companies steamers for cruises up and down the lakes to the various resorts or campgrounds. These trains and ships also carried mail all the Muskoka fleets ships carried Royal mail service and had the "RMS" designations.
Evening arrivals on these trains ( 6-7 hour trip 4 by car now )could board their steamers and sleep in a stateroom, or those who came on the later trains could sleep in the sleeping car that CN would leave on the dock plateforms.At the dockside the passengers were greeted by the Muskoka fleet ships RMS Seguin ( still exists today ) Sagamo,Islander,Cherekee,Medora,or Waome.This network of steamer connections offered twice daily access to the more than 80 resorts on the three lakes,and conveyed the groceries and mail and supplies for those that lived along these water ways.
The docksides changed as the car became the new mode of transport and hwy11 reached the Muskokas. by 1940 the docks and stations at lake Joesph and at Bala Park were closed with only the Muskoka wharf at Gravenhurst still operating. By 1950 only the Seguin and the Sagamo were still steaming on the lakes.As the new govt safety regs that were brought in after the Noronic fire in Toronto harbour the year before forced the rest of the fleet out of operation.The 1950 season saw the final cancellation of the Royal mail Contract for the steamers as well. 1952 saw the last season of boat trains to the Muskoka Wharf as well.The 1954 season was the last ship season on the lakes as well with both ships going into storage.
THE HAPPPY ENDING
In 1965 both the Seguin and The Sagamo were bought by the town of Gravenhurst and the freinds of the Muskoka Fleet came into being. The plan was to turn the Seguin into a floating museum of the lake fleets and the Sagamo which was the fleet flagship was to become a floating restuarant and hotel. The Wharf station was spruced up and all was going to plan. In 1969 though a grease fire in the Sagamo's galley burnt it to the waterline. The hull was towed to the other side of the bay were it still exists today.In the late 70's Seguin got a new lease on life purchased from the town for a dollar she was taken out of the water and completely refit to her 1927 glory. In 1981 PM Trudeau presided over the RMS Seguins re-commisioning as a fully restored and operational hand fired coal powerd cruise ship,( the coal is brought in by truck from West Virginia ) she still cruises the Muskoka lakes today along with a Sagamo look alike that is diesel powered that was built by the Muskoka fleet in 2002 and commisioned as RMS Wenonah 2.
Wenonah 2 at Gravenhurst Dock in 2003
The Fleet at dock in Gravenhurst The Seguin blt 1886 , The Wenonah blt in 2002
RMS Seguin comming into the dock.
enjoy Rob
Good evening Leon something tall and cold preferably made with hops Ended up being a hot one today on the final day of the August long weekend.Simcoe day today in honour of John Greaves Simcoe our first GG.Of coarse now it's normally refered to as the Civic holiday <barf>
Tom-Yes it was good talking at you this afternoon,right after I got of the phone with you my fence building buddy showed up and we finished our job ( gate and top rails )
Okay lets see some great stuff Loved the Wabash info.At one point it ran trains through Southern Ontario on trackage rights. Even had some F units and GP's built in London to run on their Canadian runs.Great posters as well. Nice to see that our new reborn, reborn, reborn bar is still chock full of good stuff.
I don't think I had posted the shot of the line car before. The NS&T had two of them,both home built in their shops in St Catharines. They also built the line car for the sister road Oshawa Railway. Their number 45 is at our museum and still being used as it was intended to working overhead repairs and maintenance.
Pete-Ah yes you caught the catch on the tab repayment Wecare luckey that two of those locomotives have been preserved L3 was not saved however some of it's internal parts are in our parts supply,for when we get around to getting L2 back up and running.
Lets see a few more photo's for this evening.
Oshawa line car 45 pushing locomotive 335 upto the main gate at the museum.
A close up shot of locomotive 335
Toronto Civic car 55 in the museum's second car.
Toronto Railway company car 1326 the museum's first car.
enjoy
Well good evening one and all and welcome to the last chance saloon (o.k pal-see you in the car park...)...Now then-apologies to all for absence this week end-unexpected family business--Leon,beer for all please,-lets start with a Guiness and a proper pasty for G.W ALAN-we serve the black stuff in extra tall glasses to allow the head to fully develop and our pasties are hand made in the old miners tradition-3 parts savoury filling to one part sweet (separated by a thin skin of pastry) with the traditional `miners knot` at the meat end so you can eat it in the dark....Welcome to the fray Sir-Am looking forward to your insights regarding matters G.W-after the blessed S&D J R ,the finest of lines...........
O.K-looks like I`ve missed another busy weekend........--To be honest,at the moment I am still seeing white lines and headlights in the rearview so is little point in trying to catch up although as a welcome for ALAN I think I might have a G.W.R pic or two to share........
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Well there you go mate:- there`s a load of pix for you to comment on -mostly taken last June-would appreciate an informed opinion........next beers on me ....Just copy and paste with your comments-isnt a test,just some pix to welcome you aboard-interested to hear more about your layout-pix of mine USED to be available on version 3 of this thread.....HMMMMMM
O.K one and all-it`s bed time for me-Hope to be back in proper form tomorrow-although we have a practice tomorrow afternoon for a show on wednesday ( WHO organises a party for wednesday night.....madness....!!! -apparently every cowboy/girl in the district will be there-why am I so nervous....)
O.K guys-Leon-a round of BIG drinks for these good people-TOM-All the best for the morning mate.....
Right,thats me done..
Sleep well everybody
Got a double dose of Brit speak today with Pete at the bar AND on the fone! Good seeing you 'n talking with you!
Wondering 'bout our Manager though, no appearance duirng daylite AND he was HOME! Hmmmmmmm. Perhaps he ran out of time with our fone conversation . . . oh well, he's always "with us"!
Now to something not seen here or at the other iterations of the bar . . .
Six Pack Special Number Twelve
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
Atlantic Coast Line - The Champion
Milwaukee Road - Full Dome
Euro - Switzerland
Illinois Central - Chicago
New Haven - Boston
New York Central - 20th Century Limited
A toast please RUTH, for the U.S. Coast Guard's 218th birthday.
LARS Good to see you in the bar on a Saturday with a great post, wherever we are, the bar is so much better when you are able to call in. Not much chance of a hangover for me Monday, as Pat's Place doesn't open on a Sunday.
Many thanks for the great selection for the G of R from the Larsman Mobile. Nice Mk I corridor brake coach in Western Region Chocolate and Cream livery, and like the cabooses over here the BR Brake Van is a real rarity nowadays. Might be wrong, but that looks like a Jones Goods on the cover of the Highland Railway Liveries book, they were the first class of 4-6-0 standard gauge locomotives in the UK.
Thanks for the wishes.
GREAT WESTERN Hope the pasty was OK we have them especially imported from St Ives.
Thanks for the information on the GWR shed codes on engines. I did not know the GWR sheds had numbers for admin purposes. That is the great thing about Our Place the amount of new knowledge picked up. It was a sad, when in BR days, the shed codes were changed in the 1960s with the regional boundary changes, I never did get used to Tyseley being 2A instead of my hometown of Rugby.
The locals call Shrewsbury as it is spelt, my friend Alan is from the area. Like you I used the other pronunciation until being at a Shrewsbury Town football match.
This is supposed to be a true story. In the old days BBC announcers used to travel around by train and used to get the right pronunciation for a town from the railway porters as the train called at a station. When they visited Shrewsbury they were disappointed as the porters called out Salop.
If I recall right the Great Western 1000 County class had a County of Salop.
ALLAN Glad you able to log on and join us at the bar.
Glad you enjoyed the LNER photos; just a couple left and then I have a few LMS, BR Standards, some industrials and then some Great Western.
Reading a bit about the Coronation special that DL saw on Stoke Bank, apparently A4 Sir Nigel Gresley was doing 72 MPH at Stoke Summit after climbing the bank with 13 coaches, some engine.
ROB Thanks for the kind words, glad you liked the photos. Thanks for the help with the bar tab, but hang on, you wrote that Saturday and ‘tomorrow' would be Sunday, when the bar is closed.
Many thanks for the interesting information on the L&PS electrics and the freight traffic they handled. It must have been a good sight to have seen them in action. It is good L2 is saved at your museum, was the third member of the class saved do you know.
Many thanks for the interesting trolley photos; the Chateau Laurier Hotel looks a fine building with a resemblance to the hotel by St Pancras station in London. I like the looks of the NS&T #30 Line Car.
ERIC I too have been to Pikes Peak and there was no snow there when we were there. Not a good place to have a cigarette.
It would be good to have you along for a ride on the St Louis to K.C. run, perhaps in the winter time when they have had the Superliners on the Missouri Mule like this year.
Yes Flying Scotsman is a 4-6-2.
Many thanks for the photos; good looking Swedish locomotives, the Class E 0-8-0 looks a powerful engine.
I guess those cable terminals on the main generator would have a cover over then when in service. Those kids look to be interested as you fixed the EMU.
CM3 I think Scotsman will run with the smoke lifters when she returns to service after the major overhaul she is having at the present, but in LNER livery. I believe the double chimney is to be kept as it improves the locos performance, there was a trial before the overhaul running Scotsman without the lifters but drifting smoke was a problem.
Thanks for the information on the L&N coach.
It was interesting to read that the PRR steam locomotives had their home depot stenciled on the engine. We used to know the Scottish Duchesses and Scots by heart, but the sight of a foreign shed plate brought a quick look in the book as did large numbers on the cab side of a Jubilee or class 5, as it was a trade mark of the St Rollex works in Glasgow.
TOM Yes I wonder how long it would it take if we went to Paris together before we ended up in the Bastille.
It does seem that old RI trackbed has been forgotten about; I guess it would take a massive upturn in freight traffic before it would even be considered. There was talk of a hiking trail being built towards the Kansas City part of the line but it said in the paper that the ROW would be kept.
Yes the LNER pacifics were good looking locos and this from a LMS man. The new class A1 pacific is complete now I believe.
Really enjoyed the U-Tube video on the Rock Island line, great little Ruston running around like to know where though. Lonnie Donnegan' Battle of New Orleans was the first record I bought.
Good films on at the Emporium this week. Streets of Laredo looks another good Westernwith some well known western characters like Judge Roy Bean in the plot. I just missed seeing the Harvey Girls when it was on TCM recently so it will be good to see it and, of course the Stooges.
Many thanks for the SP Named Trains from the Classic Era. I see the SP combined with the Chicago & North Western /Union Pacific as well as the Rock Island on a trains from San Francisco/ Los Angeles to Chicago. I though the Apache was an attractive drumhead, I guess the train was a competitor to the Santa Fe ‘Chiefs'.
A Bathams please RUTH,while I have a read of Tom's Wabash post now..
Must have hit the century mark already as it's hotter 'n the shades of Hades out there while attending to chores that had to be take care of . . . <phew>
Appreciate the visit from Shane . . . AND the fone call from Rob! Makes for a good Monday when friends are thinking of ya . . .
Here's a little something for those who appreciate reading - found in the sub-basement archives . . .
Back in the Day - Number Seven
Wabash Railroad
<Initially Posted on 12 Nov 2007, Page 140 "Our" Place III>
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Information contained herein has not been corroborated.
Reporting marks
WAB
Locale
Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, and Ontario
Dates of operation
1879 - October 16, 1964
Track gauge
4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)
Headquarters
St. Louis, MO
System timetable, 1887
1886 system map
The Wabash Railroad (AAR reporting marks WAB) was a Class I railroad that operated in the mid-central United States. It served a large area, including trackage in the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri and Ontario. Its primary connections included Chicago, Illinois, Kansas City, Missouri, Detroit, Michigan, Buffalo, New York, St. Louis, Missouri, and Toledo, Ohio. The Wabash's major freight traffic advantage was the direct line from Kansas City to Detroit, without going through St. Louis or Chicago.
History
The Toledo and Illinois Railroad was chartered April 20, 1853 in Ohio to build from Toledo on Lake Erie west to the Indiana state line. The Lake Erie, Wabash and St. Louis Railroad was chartered in Indiana on August 19 to continue the line west through Wabash into Illinois towards St. Louis, Missouri, and the two companies merged August 4, 1856 to form the Toledo, Wabash and Western Railroad.
The company soon went bankrupt and was sold at foreclosure. The Toledo and Wabash Railroad was chartered October 7, 1858 and acquired the Ohio portion October 8. The Wabash and Western Railroad was chartered on September 27 and acquired the Indiana portion on October 5. On December 15, the two companies merged as the Toledo and Wabash Railway.
Later mergers and reorganizations formed the Toledo, Wabash and Western Railway on July 1, 1865, Wabash Railway in January 1877, Wabash, St. Louis and Pacific Railway on November 7, 1879, and Wabash Railroad on August 1, 1889.
In 1904, the Wabash Pittsburgh Terminal Railway was formed and acquired control of the Wheeling and Lake Erie Railroad, giving the Wabash access to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania as the final step in an attempt to break the near-monopoly of the Pennsylvania Railroad and New York Central Railroad for traffic to the east. However, the Wabash had overextended itself, and the WPT went bankrupt in 1908; it would later become part of the Pittsburgh and West Virginia Railway. The Wabash Railroad itself was sold at foreclosure July 21, 1915 and reorganized October 22 as the Wabash Railway.
The Pennsylvania Railroad acquired loose control of the Wabash in 1927 by buying stock through its Pennsylvania Company. In 1929 the Interstate Commerce Commission charged the PRR with violating the Clayton Antitrust Act. The ruling was appealed, and in 1933 the Circuit Court ruled that the control was for investment only and did not violate the act.
1887 system map
The Wabash Railway again entered receivership on December 1, 1931. The Wabash Railroad, controlled by the PRR, was organized in July, 1941 and bought the Wabash Railway on December 1.
In fall of 1960, the PRR agreed to a lease of the Wabash by the Norfolk and Western Railway. The PRR's Detroit, Toledo and Ironton Railroad assumed control of the Wabash on December 31, 1962. On October 16, 1964 the New York, Chicago and St. Louis Railroad (Nickel Plate Road) merged into the Norfolk and Western Railway, and the N&W leased the Wabash and Pittsburgh and West Virginia Railway. On March 31, 1970 the Pennsylvania Company exchanged its last Wabash shares for N&W common stock; that stock was later divested as a condition of the 1968 merger into Penn Central Transportation. The profitable N&W was itself combined with the Southern Railway to form the Norfolk Southern Railway in 1982. The Wabash Railroad Company continued to exist as a legal entity until it was absorbed into the Norfolk Southern Corporation in late 1991.
Genealogy
Council Bluffs - St. Louis line
The track between Council Bluffs, Iowa and St. Louis was constructed in 1877 by the Council Bluffs and St. Louis Railway. In 1879 that railway became part of the Wabash, St. Louis and Pacific Railway. Today, most of the line is abandoned (222.4 miles from MP188.56 TO MP410.96) under ICC Decision AB-10 (SUB-NO. 27) by the Norfolk and Western from Kelley, Missouri to Council Bluffs, Iowa and effective January 13, 1984.
Iowa portion of line
The Iowa Southern Railroad (ISR) took over 61.5 miles of the Wabash rail line in Iowa to the Missouri stateline between Council Bluffs and Blanchard, Iowa. On August 22, 1988 the line was cut back to serve only Council Bluffs. In August 1990 the remaining Iowa Southern line in Council Bluffs was sold to the Council Bluffs and Ottumwa Railroad (CBOA). In May 1991 the CBOA was sold to the Council Bluffs Railway (CBR), an OmniTrax subsidiary. Today the 66 mile route is abandoned between Council Bluffs and Blanchard and is has been converted into a trail known as the Wabash Trace Trail.
Missouri portion of line
A 93-mile portion of Wasbash's Council Bluffs - St. Louis line in Missouri between Blanchard, Iowa (other sources show Burlington Junction, Missouri) and Lock Springs was sold to the Northern Missouri Railroad (NMOR) and began operations on February 13, 1984. Operations on that line were discontinued in June 1986.
Norfolk & Western abandoned the track between Lock Springs and Chillicothe.
Thirty-nine miles of track between Chillicothe and Brunswick was sold to the Chillicothe Southern Railroad. The line was sold to the Chillicothe-Brunswick Rail Maintenance Authority (CBRM) on July 24, 1987. On April 1, 1990 the line was leased to the Wabash and Grand River Railway. The Wabash & Grand River Railway's lease was terminated on December 1, 1993 due to severe flood damage on the line and the line reverted back to the Chillicothe-Brunswick Rail Maintenance Authority. On December 8, 2006, the Chillicothe Constitution-Tribune reported that the city of Chillicothe sold the majority, about 37 miles, of the railroad to Seattle, Washington based Montoff Transportation, LLC for $976,000. The part of the railroad that was sold has been embargoed since 2003. The city still owns the railroad to the city's industrial park and to a location just east of Chillicothe where future development is planned. Today, the part of the railroad that stretched from Brunswick northward through Triplett and to where it meets up with BNSF railroad in Sumner has been torn down, while the tracks north of that to the location east of Chillicothe have been abandoned and most of the tracks are covered in vegetation.
References
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Some drumheads of the Wabash:
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Good Morning Barkeep and all present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Nice day here today although we had a 4.5 hr-long thunderstorm on Saturday a.m.
Happy Birthday, USCG!
Alan - welcome in.
Allan - Good to hear from you. At least there is another N scaler out there.
Nick was by with pictures and comments.
Pete was in with some pictures and information. Scotsman looks way different with smoke lifters. I enjoyed the pictures you sent, particularly the one where the locomotive is getting "cleaned." The L&N car you mentioned is a hw coach. See my comment to Eric below. Locomotives usually roam today although they do have to receive periodic inspections. Incidentally, PRR steam locomotives had locations stenciled on their pilot beams as well. This practice resurfaced in the days of PC when "bases" were on cab sides. It seemed really strange to see power stenciled for St. Louis, Avon, Harrisburg, etc. at Beacon Park. I was by Beacon Park when visiting the home folks last month and it was full of large CSX-painted GE power; not an EMD unit in sight.
Rob - I feel your pain. As one of my colleagues says, "Computers are great when they work."
What ho, is that Lars? OMG - it is! Yes, I do have the time and the age - but I am so not ready to hang it up yet! Some fine books from the bookmobile. MP in Nebraska one looks especially interesting. Nice C&O one as well with the picture of the F units along the Ohio River with a coal train - that is truly a speedway between Huntington and Cincinnati.
Fergie has visited as well. An SP locomotive? Why not - it's your railroad.
Eric - Enjoyed your comments and pictures. I know, 113 degrees of dry heat! That'll still put you down if you're not careful. I spent 4 years in the heart of L&N country, so if you have questions, ask away and I'll do my best to answer them for you. The Old Reliable was a most interesting property - they swallowed up one of my all-time favorite roads, the NC&StL, early in the merger game. BTW, that is a fine looking 4-6-0 you sent along.
OSP - Have responded to e-mails - I apologize for the schedule this week, but it is what it is and totally beyond my control. Good moom pichers - I'm on my way already.
The Rock Island material was a good choice. There is a good RI story in the latest issue of Classic Trains. I also appreciated the L&N material. The "Crescent" was truly an interline service with a most interesting consist.
"If you wake up dead..." reminds me of the Calvin Coolidge quotation, "When more and more people are put of work, unemployment results."
Work safe
A smile to begin the week!
Speaking to the press before the 1973 playoffs about Cincinnati's "Big Red Machine," Yogi said, "Tony Perez is a big clog in their machine."
<A Yogi-ism!>
It's THAT day once more - the beginning of a new work week <for many>. Around here, we strive to put a happy face on it by serving the finest in bakery goods, breakfasts ‘n fresh coffee! Are you ready
Today is the 218th birthday of the U.S. Coast Guard, which was founded in 1790 as the Revenue Cutter Service, an arm of the Treasury Department . . . the ONLY armed maritime service the country had between 1790 'n 1798! 32 years of that history includes Moi!
REMINDER: For the <GoR> plus one, check your Email at least daily - decision time is approaching!
Sunday - August 3rd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 3 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:16 PM: Nice spate o' fotos - something in ‘em for everyone including some vintage automobiles! Always can count on our trolleyMAN for some fine looking traction! Most interesting piece is that line car - don't recall seeing one of those before!
Appreciate the help ‘round here on Sunday . . .
Good evening. I see that the Bossman's had the place to himself and has gotten it all ship shape.Figured I would do my paperwork and make sure that,Pete hasn't tried to shred his bartab again on spike's back.Always got to watch that guy <sheesh>
Eric-For the record anything above 100 degrees, humid or not is too hot Loved the pictrues however. I noted that the first steamer still had a huge snowplow attached on what appeared to be a summer day I think that girl on the bike was checking out your butt in the EMU shot.
Pikes Peak is a nice place to visit. The home my sister and family just left in Colorado Springs had a wonderfull view of Pike's Peak right from their kitchen window. The cog railway is a neat ride as well.
Tom-Couple fine flicks ( on what might be the last playbill here )Nice SP steamer in your post this afternoon Equally good read on the SP as well. I think we've all had too much "hard" stuff lately Just a ton of name trains on the SP,oh well always good to read about the golden age of passenger trains.
I hear you about the dinner trains, as long as they are not chargeing five star hotel and restaurant prices for microwaved fair and the same old urban scenery it should be a good run,and if it's a run and trackage you've never seen or been on,so much the better.
Lets see a couple photo's for fun.
Detroit Street Railway Peter Witt
A shot of the Ottawa Street Railway passing just outside of the Chateau Laurier hotel
radial car 620 on geneva Street in St Catharines.1958
NS&T line car 30 in the Welland Ave yard in St Catharines
<SP #4460 at MoT, Kirkwood, Missouri - Personal foto>
"Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Here's another "labor of love" for our <GoR> that might brighten up the joint come Monday's opening time . . . 6 AM <all time zones - don't ask how we do that!>
Named Passenger Trains
from the Classic Era - Number Two
Southern Pacific Railroad (SP)
Caveat: This list is for the enjoyment of those frequenting "Our" Place. It is not intended to be all inclusive but rather a compilation reflective of perhaps the more noted trains of the day. Keep in mind that each of these trains did not operate in the same year(s) as the others. The intent of this compilation is to generate civil discussion of those passenger trains now relegated to the Classic era!
The Southern Pacific operated dozens of named passenger trains over the course of its existence. They included:
<Wabash #573 at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . August 3rd thru 9th: Streets of Larado <1995> Starring: James Garner, Sissy Spacek, Sam Shepard, Ned Beatty & Randy Quaid - and - ENCORE Presentation of The Harvey Girls <1946> Starring: Judy Garland, John Hodiak, Ray Bolger, Angela Lansbury & Preston Foster. SHORT - The Three Stooges: I'm A Monkey's Uncle <1948>.
<Note: The Harvey Girls first shown Sunday April 9th thru 15th, 2006>
Streets of Larado <1995>
PLOT SUMMARY: In this sequel to Larry McMurtry's LONESOME DOVE, ornery Texas Ranger Captain Call takes on one last mission, tracking down a killer as a freelance bounty hunter. With Pea Eye Parker tagging along, he crosses paths with such Western luminaries as Judge Roy Bean and John Wesley Hardin. Joseph Sargent (THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE, MISS EVERS' BOYS) directed this worthy follow-up, with a terrific cast that includes James Garner, Ned Beatty, Randy Quaid, Sam Shepard, Sissy Spacek, Sonia Braga, and even George Carlin.
In this sequel to Larry McMurtry's LONESOME DOVE, ornery Texas Ranger Captain Call takes on one last mission, tracking down a killer as a freelance bounty hunter. With Pea Eye Parker tagging along, he crosses paths with such Western luminaries as Judge Roy Bean and John Wesley Hardin. Joseph Sargent (THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE, MISS EVERS' BOYS) directed this worthy follow-up, with a terrific cast that includes James Garner, Ned Beatty, Randy Quaid, Sam Shepard, Sissy Spacek, Sonia Braga, and even George Carlin.
<from: rottentomatoes.com>
The Harvey Girls <1946>
PLOT SUMMARY: A frothy musical about the romantic misadventures of the Harvey girls, waitresses employed by the Old West Harvey Restaurant chain. Their ladylike behavior had a civilizing effect on their wild frontier patrons. Despite the rather thin story, the great cast and fun music make this worth a watch. Note: train scenes in this movie . . .
A frothy musical about the romantic misadventures of the Harvey girls, waitresses employed by the Old West Harvey Restaurant chain. Their ladylike behavior had a civilizing effect on their wild frontier patrons. Despite the rather thin story, the great cast and fun music make this worth a watch.
SHORT: I'm A Monkey's Uncle <1948>
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are stone-age cavemen, trying to cope with primitive life. They have to fight for their women Aggie, Maggie and Baggie, when some rival cavemen try to steal them back from the Stooges.
The Stooges are stone-age cavemen, trying to cope with primitive life. They have to fight for their women Aggie, Maggie and Baggie, when some rival cavemen try to steal them back from the Stooges.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend!
Reminder: "Our" Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>
We're CLOSED on this day that was meant for REST! But, for the Proprietor - well, it's that day where catching up takes place. And making prep for Monday's opening!
REMINDER: Our "off-line net" has been activated. Gentlemen - check your in-baskets!
Saturday - August 2nd <all times Central daylite>:
Page 2 - Pete <pwolfe> at 12:04 PM ‘n 1:56 PM: "In" with a fine < I3 > Post - doing your part to make things as "back to normal" as possible! Hat's off to our Bar Chandler, Wolfman Pete! [yeah
Methinks we'd have a great time going 1st class aboard EuroStar to Paris! With your "command" of both languages, how could we miss I mean, errrrrrrrr, ahhhhhhhhhh - oh fuhgedaboudit! <grin>
Somewhere back in time, I know that we discussed the old RI Line between St. Louis ‘n KCity . . . I was provided with a "tour" of that right-of-way by an organization that was very close to purchasing all of it. They owned but a portion back then . . . only serviceable trackage <still to this day> is between StL ‘n Union, MO - not far from where I live. After that, all kinds of disruptions - trees growing up in the roadbed - missing rails ‘n decaying bridges, etc. My group wanted to use the eastern portion of the right-of-way for our commuter/light rail initiative.
I can't help you at all regarding the assignment of particular locos to certain repair facilities. Haven't a clue, Mate - sorry.
Amazing how those "horoscopes" can sometimes be "right on" ‘n other times way off. Runs fast! Yeah, right . . . The other . . . hmmmmmm. <grin>
The noontime ROUND meant a lot, as did your visit!
Back "in" with a fine spate of fotos for the crew - nicely done, as always! Just luv those Pacifics!
You know the say, "Can't tell a book by its cover," so you're guess is as good as mine regarding what that passenger car of the L&N was used for. Looks like a coach, but I'll bet that Shane will know!
ANOTHER ROUND! But LATE on Monday . . . . not acceptable! Lars was correct - Get up EARLY! <geesh>
Page 2 - Lars <LoveDomes> at 3:53 PM: Two days in succession from a guy who didn't think he'd ever come back! See, one just nevAH knows what's around that corner, eh Great having you aboard, Mate! But just WATCH that sweet talk ‘round Cindy!! She's mine, mine, mine! <grrrrrrrrr>
Nice of you to "constrain" yourself - most unusual! <grin> Anyway, we should be able to converse with one another on a myriad of topics without being interrupted, dontchathink After all, you weren't over the top or breaking any of the "rules" as I saw it. Oh well . . . watchagonnado
"Jumped' all over the Wolfman about that dentist "thing," I see! <grin> Last time he did this to us - he missed the ENTIRE day! You'd think his dentist was located half way ‘round the globe. Hmmmmmm, perhaps it IS! Rugby Dental Works ‘n Bat Guano Removal! Yeah, that's the place . . . <uh oh>
Don't wanna talk baseball - yeah, I know YOUR Mets are doing just fine. But what a lousy division <tee hee> - the NL Central is the toughest, ‘n so far, the Cards at least are close to a Wild Card berth. Amazing how the Cubs haven't folded the tent <yet>.
Another fine bunch of covAHs from your Larsman Mobile. Amazing how you keep coming up with these things! As with so many, it's just enjoyable to see view those fotos . . . nice idea that fits well within what we've always tried to achieve at this place of OURS! Luv that Broadway Limited - have that book in my modest hard cover library <liberry>!
Always enjoy your company ‘n ROUND! We'll keep that stool of yours "at the ready" for your next visit! Oh yes, thanx for the Email - copy sent to Shane!
Page 2 - Alan <Great Western> at 4:38 PM <10:38 PM GMT>: Ahhhhhhh, I see our new Brit friend has made it back for his complimentary drink ‘n OH-FISH-UL welcome!
Some fine offerings along the line of what you seem to appreciate discussing. No doubt your fellow countrymen will respond in kind. For the remainder of us, we read - we digest ‘n we learn! Thanx . . .
Page 2 - Allan <Gunneral> at 8:34 PM <3:34 PM Sunday NZ time>: Glad to see that you were able to overcome that log-in issue. Noted that Rob had similar problems . . . Anyway, having you back with friends is what counts, eh
Emails received ‘n responded to - thanx!
Up until the 11 of September, there seemed to be a downward spiral of interest in the large veterans organizations <American Legion ‘n Veterans of Foreign Wars>. Since then, I believe the memberships have grown. So at least - for the time being - there will be places to go where military people can exchange experiences over a "glass" or three. Don't take that info "to the bank," for it's pretty much anecdotal. I "belong" but shy away from being active in the sense that I go to meetings. Never did enjoy that kinda thing. Guess I got turned off many, many years ago when I heard a guy spouting off <a sea story> about a situation that involved ME! Yeah, he told the story, but embellished so much, that I nearly interrupted him - but didn't. The guy wasn't there - didn't know I was the "focal point" of the story ‘n had so many of the facts wrong . . . and the thing is - he BELIEVED it all was true. Told that <censored> story so many times that if put to music, we cudda danced to it. Figured there were far too many "stories" like that, ‘n I'd prefer to live for TODAY rather than back then . . .
Hey! Who doesn't know of Lonnie Donnegan in these parts That was a huge hit over here ‘n what made it so "cool," is that it was done by a Brit who actually "sang American"!
Click the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olf7Ibtg1lM&feature=related
Only "problem" is that the video doesn't match up - should be the RI rather than Brit . . . but a good song!
Saw you "left" a bunch of "space" at the end of your Post - was that for "doodling"
Many thanx for your < I3 > effort ‘n ROUND!
Page 2 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:14 PM: Didn't expect ya, but very happy that you made it "in." Sorry ‘bout that <censored> logging in "thing" . . . never know ‘round here, eh
I know what you mean about dinner trains . . . hardly the "real thing." But, every now ‘n then we've had a fine night out aboard one. I wouldn't - ever - pay the "through the nose" prices found on some of those <gimmicky things> but when you find ‘em reasonably priced ‘n in locations where perhaps you've never been - why not As I said, every now ‘n then . . .
Hmmmmmmmm, that was Cindy behind the bar on Saturday! Hittin' the hard stuff, eh
Spoke with Fergie this morning - he tried to "make excuses" for his bride - I wouldn't let her off the hook. I think he "won" - but most probably "lost" as well, IF you follow my drift! <yikes>
As always, a fine < I3 > Post to go along with that ROUND! [bow
Sunday, August 3rd:
Page 2 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:52 AM <11:52 PM Saturday, Sandbox time>: Yes, 14,100 ft is a "stat" etched in my long-term memory since my visit to Pikes Peak back in 1953 . . . we found snow up there in July! Hmmmmmmm, yeah I know - global warming.
Not to take this as criticism, but are you saying you'll never travel anywhere together because of the animals That surely sounds like a no-win deal. Gotta be an alternative, Mate. Perhaps we can get Pete to "baby sit" the critters . . . I'm sure his "soothing" words would put them at ease - or . . . . Anyway, just something to think about . . .
Many, many thanx for the continuing input via Email . . . we're getting CLOSE ‘n your help is absolutely "on the mark."
A fine bunch of diverse fotos - all well done, all captivate the interest! Luv those steam locos from Sweden - along with that set of DMUs . . . so that's YOU, eh Who's the gal on the bicycle The mother of the youngster or perhaps an older sister Still have her fone number Brunette at that! Hmmmmmmm. <grin>
I think the caption for the DMU foto might be, "No, no - it's supposed to be ‘8042' not ‘3042' ‘n we're not moving until it gets changed!"
Oxygen masks only come down from the ceiling of the Second Class Saloon on nights when they serve German wursts . . . <uh oh>
Appreciate the good cheer ‘n < I3 > Post!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon, quite a few people here tonight! A party going on? Wow, Vito? No, I promise not to tell! Yes, Steak and Bisquits, please! Yes, Tui!
A busy Saturday! Didn't have time to stop by until now! I think they should make the weekends longer, add two or three hours of daylight Saturday and Sunday! That would help.
Tom – Missed the daylite today. Mountain Village at high altitude? If it is so high, everybody should bring oxygen when they are moving around. I have been on the top of Pikes Peak in the summer and there was no snow! The altitude is 14,110 ft and you can feel that there isn’t much oxygen in the air. Oh, I know, the latitude, but still...Dinner train in Nebraska? Sounds nice, the problem is to find someone to take care of the animals. L&N, a railroad I don’t know much about. One of many, I am afraid. But I learned some tonight!Sent email.Pete – Oh, I don’t disagree, 113ËšF is hot enough, but sometimes it warms up a little bit more. Thanks for the info on the #1264! Nice to know she was saved!It certainly would be nice to ride the train from St. Louis to Kansas City and back. Something to think about. Interesting photos! You are right, #60103 looks German thanks to the smoke deflectors! It looks like it is a 4-6-2, is that correct? Lars – After partly retiring in January I am very much looking forward to retire 100% in October! I don’t have time to go to work any more. Too much to do at home. I saw your comment to Allan about mandatory service to country, and I agree 100%! If nothing else it makes you grow up at the same time you are helping your country!An interesting collection of book covers! Santa Fe Locomotive Development must be very interesting! Alan/G W – Welcome to Our Place! Thanks for the info on Great Western and the sheds! Allan – No snow? That makes things easier! Question: Who is running the NZ trains now after the government bought back the railroad? Is it the government or are they having a private company run the trains? Rob – You are right about the right color for cabooses! Red!
Some randomly picked photos.
Swedish State Railways, Class E, 0-8-0.
Swedish State Railways, Class B, 4-6-0.
The power supplier, a generator, in a dieselelectric locomotive.
Special arrangement! Two trucks.
Problems with an EMU commuter train. I'm (to the right) helping the engineer to fix it. 30 miles south of Stockholm, Sweden.
Snowfall today at Mountain Village, Can-Am.Survivors outside the Second Class Saloon. No oxygen masks!
Eric
Good evening Leon a nice cold keith's if you don't mind, and a round for da boyz as well. Anyoine have troubles with the forum yesterday kept getting forum shut down for maintenance every time I tried to log in yesterday,today fired up on the first attemptperhaps just revenge for venting against the man the other day BTW for those who give a rat's patoot,I aggree with Lars on the hows and the whys.
Tom-Thanks for the email updates mate looks n sounds good. I ddin't think you were one for dinner trains,guess your lowering your standards Great stuff outta the sub basement as well.At least you know that the GOR are and appreciate it
Lars-Thnaks for the double shot I needed it. Nice to see you in two days running as well Two days of Ruth singing happily behind the bar too it's pure gold
Two find spreads of the bookmobile as well,makes it feel just like the old times ( instead of the end times round here )
I wonder if the streetcar info has allowed Fergie to win the discussion with Lisa
Pete-Loved both days worth of fine fine steam shots you've gone and outdone yourself again. For those wonderfull shots and undying support for the bar and it's patrons,you won't have to make tomorrows payment against your bar tab. ( intrest will still accrue however )
Glad you liked the Port Stanley web page. The locomotive that Elgin county has is a sister to our museum's L2.There were originally three of those locmotives on the London and Port Stanleyand they were big powerfull brutes,and handled all teh packaged frieght and the coal shipments that were picked up at the dockside.The L&PS supplied the transportation for the approx 80% of the city of London's and the surrounding areas heating and fuel coal ( CN's shop coal for St Thomas ,Stratford and London were brought in accross the lake and handled by the L&PS as well.
Dan-Happy rail trails my friend
Eric-Liked the caboose ,red is the diffinitive colour for cabooses in my humble opinion.Glad that you liked the Port web page as well. they are a neat operation and they have alot of intersting equipment and structures that they have maintained and restored over the years.
GW-Alan- aboard. the more the merrier,espaecially if your a Guiness fan
Allan-Yes the loss of any post is annoying,espeacially when it's not caused by faulty eqiuipment or use of said equipment on my end <grumble,mumble> I won't go down that track again. Suffice to say I was less than impressed about that whole day.But ask me how a really feel.
Fergie. Very interesting story of the origins of Keiths Beer.
Eric. We did`nt have any snow round here, just lots of rain and gale force winds, the storm affected the the whole of NZ which was very unusual, they usually affect one or two regions, glad it`s passed through now. Some nice snowy pics from the Can Am RR, glad the snow was there, not here. (Sorry Tom!) Nice caboose shot.
Dan. I vaguely remember the name of the Wolsey model, I think it was badged as the 16/60 model from memory, can`t remember the Riley name at all. Have a very pleasant trip, see you when you get back, would really love to take a ride on the Eurostar
CM3. N gauge really suits my shed space, and it gives that sense of scale in the small area I am limited to.
Rob. Sorry to read you lost that post, it`s very frustrating that's for sure. A fine link to theStanley Terminal Rly. Thanks for those smiles in the mailbox mate.
Nick. A very nice set of the photo collages with all the saddle tanks, vertical boilered "Sentinal" and the Ruston & Hornsby shunter locos`.
Pete. Looking forward to all those pix of Alan`s, loved all of your lovely LNER loco pix, the J27, B1 1264 and all of the Pacific shots, thanks mate they are all definate keepers! It would be very interesting to find out thr reason why 06 003 was saved as you say. Our local newsagent only gets the Railway Modeler, I get some of the other ones when i`m up in Hastings or Napier>
Lars. Great to see you in again with two of your usual fine selection of covAHS from the Larsman Mobile, nice to see the NZ Danger Ahead cover included in the spread, I managed to talk our local library into getting a copy when it came out! My old man spent the whole seven years in NW India, it was the norm in the Brit Army in those days for service in India and the Far East stations, he met and married Mom when he got back to the UK. I totally agree with you about how standards have slipped so much these days, it was a family tradition of ours to serve in the artillery from way back when. I find that it`s easier to remember the good times these days, some things are best forgotten with the passage of time. Many thanks for your birthday wishes, real thoughtful of you mate. Your e-mail received with many thanks.
GW Alan. Good to see you in with some info on those LNER shed markings.
Tom. Managed to log in OK today, tried to get in for 3 hrs yesterday, must have been an un-annouced Maintainance down time period, it would have been in the 10pm/1am time period over in the States. We still have a good few WWII veterans in our ex service association, the average age goes from 86 plus, we`ve had three who reached the 100 yrs mark. A fine Passenger Trains from Around the World #1 on the Eurostar , very apt with Dan going on that trip soon. A great write up in Fallen Flags #9 on the "Rock Island Line", an English "Skiffle" singer called Lonnie Donnegan had a big hit with the song back in the early 50`s, one of my all time favorites! Some interesting material in PTN #13 on the L&N RR. Good link to the Dinnertrain.
<personal foto - NYC #2933 at MoT, Kirkwood, MO>
I see we've had a bit more activity on this Saturday than most along with a return visit from a guy who just may decide that he enjoys the way we do things 'round here.
So, a hearty OH-FISH-UL Welcome Aboard to Alan <Great Western> - first drink is on the house!
Yes, it is definitely customary to order a drink and/or food upon entering our premises, along with a proper greeting for the bartender. We have "ways" to deal with those who fail to do so! <uh oh> But I digress . . .
Since we're now on a new Thread, there shouldn't be too much difficulty in reviewing what has transpired. Page 1 contains our "ground rules," which I'm sure you'll find rather easy to live with.
I urge you to review the final few Pages of "Our" Place III, before it disappears from the Forum's main Page . . . you'll get a quick "handle"on the most recent Posts from the crew.
Glad to have you with us! Feel free to direct any of your comments or questions to our customers. We are interactive here - so, be prepared to return comments directed your way.
Good to see Pete with a 2nd visit of the day along with a fine spate o' fotos! Then along came Lars with an "only as Lars can be" Post! Made the afternoon having the two of you aboard!
Thanx for the covAHs from the Larsman Mobile - only you can do that so well!
I'm going to dispense with my 2nd offering for this day . . . just not up to it right now, but wanted to at least acknowlege those of you who took the time 'n made the effort to drop by - thanx! More comments in my AM acknowledgments . . . Understand Allan downunder is having some difficulties logging on . . . just in case anyone has wondered.
Boris, ring the bell 'n set 'em up for the gang!
Greetings,
I understand it is customary to oder beverages, and maybe food, when coming in here.
That being so I will have a pint of draught Guiness and a Cornish Pasty please.
Thenk yo!
I noticed in a post earlier a comment about UK railway shed names and numbers. Yes the LNER did have the shed on the buffer beam, also the class of loco. Whether the class name applied to all classes I cannot say. It was a foreign railroad to me.
As far as The Great western is concerned the shed, in the form of abbreviated initials, was usually to be found at the point where the running plate met the front buffer beam. Most were three letter but there were a few exceptions. Some were only two and there were a few four letter. There was one five letter SALOP, which was an abbreviation for Shrewsbury (which can be pronouncedas it looks or as Shrowsbury -which is how I have always pronounced it).
Salop is also a another, not so often used way, of referring to the County of Shropshire of which Shrewsbury is the County town.
GWR running sheds also had numbers for administrative uses. This was superceeded in BR days by the usual oval plate fixed on the smokebox door.
Alan, Oliver & North Fork Railroad
https://www.buckfast.org.uk/
If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there. Lewis Carroll English author & recreational mathematician (1832 - 1898)
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!!
Cindy my lovely, a ROUND of Schaefer for the gang, slide those snack trays down my way, wudja And treats for the crittAHs - Boris, feed ‘em ‘n that LARGE jar of PPF is for YOU!
Just wanted to check back to see if things are functioning as I had hoped. Don't see our Manager around the premises, so figured it should be my call to hold the line. Duty calls! <grin>
I think I'll do the "noble" thing and NOT make comment on the comment! But here I go again - level playing field, HA!
Now to what this place was designed for! Interaction for those who enjoy Classic Trains in an ADULT environment! Yeah, that's me.
Good to see the Wolfman keeping up with his end of things. What is this ANOTHER Monday with a late arrival If it isn't "sneaking off" for a weekend, it's NOT coming through on Mondays. What now, the dentist Must be code for "I'm going to have a hang over." <grin> C'mon Pete, it doesn't take all day to go to the dentist - Good Grief Charlie Brown!
Up ‘til the point where this place got resurrected, I was enjoying those last few pages at "Our" Place thrice. Some truly fine material. Da Bossman has urged youse guyz to check it out before it disappeAHs off the main page. Butchanowat That may take a loooooooooooong time! This forum isn't the most active and I have to wondAH aloud, what do you suppose it would be like without us
On the sports scene, my Mets have found a new life with a new managAH. Seems to have put some "jump" in their step as they are back in the race. Thought that stuff with the Red Sox ‘n the guy who thinks he's stylish with that "do" of his. Glad he didn't come to New YAWk. We have enough "rentals" and surely didn't need anothAH, especially one with a chip as large as the Empire State building.
Rob came through once again, after cooling off a bit . . . Hey! it's good for your blood pressure to knock the top of your head off now 'n then! Strap yourself onto your stool 'n have a double jolt on me!
So, the Fergieman asked a trolley question. Answers came in from all points and we still don't know if he saw ‘em. <geesh> Is this guy for real or what Then he entertains us with a brewery story. Hmmmm, I think he's hitting the Keiths a bit too frequently <as in OFTEN!> Yeah, Fergie - New Orleans is perhaps one of the most famous of the streetcar lines in this country. Streetcar named Desire, and all of that. <grin> I say TWEET the ladies! Go for it, Bossman! I mean if they open mouth and insert foot, why not
Eric is doing his thing with the nighttime "report" and keeping up with the guyz. Noticed some daytime visits too, which can't hurt this place at all! Also, you're pulling the plug on being a working man, huh End of October will be here before you know it. I'll try my best to help celebrate your retirement on the 30th.
Shane has been doing the working man "thing." In looking at the B'day watch list, seems to me you're "eligible" to pull the plug yourself! <grin> Yeah, I know, you're working for the "luv" of it. Just keep those quarters for the juke box coming in along with the Monday - Friday ROUNDS, ‘n we'll be content! I know you "live" for those SAWKS of yours, but the way the Angels are playing, one has to wondAH if the AL race is all but ovAH. Yeah, the playoffs can hold many surprises, but your Bostonians aren't the same wrecking crew of old.
Allan in NZ has been around quite a bit with all kinds of good "stuff" for the gang. Your father must have had a bunch of stories to tell about his seven yeAH tour. Just can't imagine that being a "normal" thing. <yikes> Do you know if he remained away for the entire time Surely must've been rough on your mother. Imagine you have a bunch of tales from your own exploits, as all of us do from our military experiences. As our respective generations pass on, wondAH what those behind us will have to talk about Without mandatory service to country, just seems to me that our society has dropped a notch or three from where it had been. Just my two-cents, mate.
Nick has been regaling the crew with tales of this ‘n that along with a never ending stream of photos from real and model trains! Well done, mate! Yeah, I picked up on your comment the othAH night regarding whethAH some people may have complained about the "loading" problem due to the numbAH of photos at our bAH. Wouldn't surprise me, but ya know, I don't think that really was the reason at all. But an interesting point of view anyway.
Dan has left Sherwood Forest for his rapid round trip to Paris aboard the Eurostar. I'm with Cap'n Tom on this one for my preference would be to remain aboard the train! The beer in Paris was awful on my visits and I'm not really "into" the Left Bank, etc. Nah, I'd remain aboard the train. Anyway, hope your journey is everything and more that you hoped for. Enjoyed that link you put up on the "seat 61." NevAH heard of that - but it makes sense.
It's now time for my selection of covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . . here's a jumble for the crew!
NOT REALLY SURE WHEN I'LL BE ABLE TO RETURN - SO LET ME WISH PETE 'n ALLEN A MOST HAPPY BIRTHDAY .
Until the next time!
Lars
A Bathams please CINDY.
Back again with some more photos.
A couple of LNER Pacifics. First class A2 No 60532 Blue Peter. Introduced in 1947 by A. H. Peppercorn the A2s were simular to the A1s of which a new built A1 locomotive it is to run shortly but with 6' 2" driving wheels as opposed to the 6' 8" drivers on the A1s. Here 60532 is on the preserved Great Central Railway.
60532 on main line steam tour duty at Carlisle. After hauling the train from Crewe the engine serviced at Carlisle and we had a really great run with a fantastic climb of Beattock Bank.
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On another main line tour 60532 in DL's part of the world, it is ether at Syston North Curve or at Sheets Stores Junction near Trent.
A famous locomotive, althogh I wonder if Thomas the Tank is not more well known nowadays. Flying Scotsman in her final BR livery as 60103 with double chimney and German style smoke deflectors. At Kidderminster Town station on the Severn Valley Railway.
We had gone there with the intention of having a ride behind her but such was Scotsman's popularity the queue for tickets was outside the booking office across the front of the station and nearly reaching the BR station. So we took photos of her leaving and consoled ourselves in a few Bathams hostelries..It is amazing how the old photos bring back memories
TOM Many thanks for the Passenger Train Nostalgia from the Louisville and Nashville advertisement. Sounds a great way to travel between New York and New Orleans with an observation car and even radios in the private room sleepers, although travel in them must have been very expensive, I would have thought. I guess the car on the cover of the book was a day car
Well CINDY thinking of Bathams another round please.. I will be late in on Monday as I have another visit with the dentist.
Many thanx to Pete for stopping by on this Saturday . . . normally a rather slooooooow day here in the Ether.
Drug up this from the sub-basement archives for your enjoyment!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #13
<A form of this was initially Posted on 25 Oct 2005, Page 146 of the "original" Thread>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Louisville and Nashville (L&N) from an advertisement in Classic American Trains
The NEW Crescent
A GRAND NEW TRAIN WITH A GRAND OLD NAME In Daily Service between New Orleans, Atlanta, Washington and New York Recommend and Sell the Year's Finest Travel Packge STREAMLINED, STAINLESS STEEL CARS The Crescent is new from end to end. It's the last word in streamliners. All cars are constructed of stainless steel and offer latest comfort and safety features. ALL-PRIVATE-ROOM SLEEPERS A selection of five different type private rooms - new 3-bed master room with shower and individual radio, drawing room, bedroom en suite, bedroom, and roomette. Each offers private lavatory, clothes closet, ice water and individually controlled lighting, heating and air conditioning. LOUNGE AND OBSERVATION CARS The finest atmosphere is found in the mid-train club lounge and the luxurious observation car. Comfortable chairs, music and convenient game or writing tables offer a "club on wheels" for rest and relaxation. NOTHING FINER IN DINERS The Crescent diners serve Southern cooking at is best. Every service to make every meal a travel treat has been provided - even to telephone communication between sleeping cars and diners. COACH SERVICE De luxe coaches with individual reclining seats are operated between New Orleans and Atlanta with connecting service beyond.
LOUISVILLE AND NASHVILLE RAILROAD
Enjoy! Tom
A Bacon sarnie please CINDY
ROB Many thanks to the link to the Port Stanley Terminal, a line with an interesting history and collection of smaller diesel locomotives. Noticed the photo of London & Port Stanley electric locomotive L1 from the Elgin County Museum at the bottom of the history page.
ALLAN. Don't know if you see Steam Railway magazine where you are but mine has arrived and it has a photo of the four A4s at York on the cover and a large poster of them inside.
DL Have a great trip on the Eurostar.
LARS Great to see you in the bar in its time of need. Thanks for the round, although RUTH was not too happy with the bevy of ladies she is a lot happier now you explained it.
Many thanks for the Mo-Pac book covers from the Larsman Bookmobile. As you probably know, the line that runs through here was originally the Mo-Pac. now UP. It is still busy, but I would have loved to have been here when there was steam and those Alco's on the passenger trains.
That looks very much like the workshops in Sedalia MO, which are still standing, on the ‘Cabooses of the Missouri Pacific Lines' cover.
FERGIE Really enjoyed reading about Alexander Keith; reading about a brewery is nearly as good as having some of the ale, especially as you are not sharing your Keith's. Tried to get some Keith's for Tom's visit here, but the shop that sells international beers said they had not had any in for a while.
Glad you liked the photos, another Our Place co-incidence, before I met the bride she was on a tour of the UK with a community band and played and stayed in Coventry, only one night though, and the year was1999. Coventry is about 12 miles from my old house.
It would be great if we could see those photos of the ‘Switch Tower'
ERIC I think 113 F is hot enough, it got very humid here indeed last evening, like a sauna.
How great it must be to go down to the Can-Am in these hot days and see all the snow on the mountains and it does stop those shady characters from the Second Class Saloon from coming over the mountains and causing mischief to us good folks at the Mentor Inn..
Yes 1264 was rescued from Barry scrapyard. She lasted a while longer than most of the B1s as she was used as a stationary boiler to steam heat coaching stock. There was some doubt about 1264 being saved as her firebox needed major repairs but the preservationists took it on and she is running today mostly on main line specials. She was one of the engines I had on the Highland Steam Festival in 2000, now she runs in her BR guise as 61264.
Thanks for the photo of the Mo-Pac caboose there are a couple parked near sidings on the route from Kirkwood to Kansas City, on the route Tom and I ride. Hopefully one day you will be able to ride the route with us.
TOM Many thanks for the Rock Island Fallen Flag. I guess the ‘Rocket' livery on the EMD E8A tied in with the Rocket named train theme favored by the RI. The Rock Island ROW is still mostly intact with the rails still in place where it runs along side Highway 54 south of here, although there is plenty of vegetation growing on the track bed.It seems quite a way south of the other Kansas City to St Louis routes.
Thanks for the kind words on the photos, I am very pleased with the scanner although it and the computer fell out yesterday afternoon and would not speak to each other, it is OK now though. I do feel as I am not using all the features though, I will have to kidnap Eric next time he is in the area. Looking at the prints I scan, I am real pleased now that I had a reasonable camera and always bought Kodak film and not the very cheap film you could get. I wish I had a decent camera when I first started to take the color slides in the 1970s.
I think it was just the LNER who had the shed name on the buffer beam, perhaps Allan can help, although I can recall seeing some ex LMS class 5s having their shed name there but this was well into BR days. The Great Western had a three-letter shed code on the front of the frames. In BR days the LMS system of numbers and a letter was adopted for all engines even some of the early diesels and units had a shed plate.
I have often wondered about the UP diesels whether they are allocated to a depot for repairs and examinations or they roam the UP system and get the examinations at the nearest depot when it is time.
Thanks for the drink and the Birthday Watch List to turn page 2 at Our place IV. Must admit the Catfish does seem to suit me, apart from the "Runs fast" and the "Hard to understand" bits.
Well CINDY nearly noon, so a round please and back in a bit with some more LNER photos.
2008 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST
<rev. Aug 1st>
ACTIVE Customers at "Our" Place
January 14th (Eric - 65)
OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.
March 5th (Nick - 48)
March 31st (Lars - 68) - Gone but not forgotten!
MOON PIE (March 21 - April 20) You're the type that spends a lot of time on the front porch. A cinch to recognize the physical appearance of Moon Pies. Big and round are the key words here. You should marry anybody who you can get remotely interested in the idea. A Chitlin would be a good mate but it's not going to be easy. You always have a big smile and are happy. This might be the year to think about aerobics. Maybe not.
May 18th (Tom - 70)
POSSUM (April 21 - May 21) When confronted with life's difficulties, possums have a marked tendency to withdraw and develop a don't-bother-me-about- it attitude. Sometimes you become so withdrawn, people actually think you're dead. This strategy is probably not psychologically healthy but seems to work for you. You are a rare breed. Most folks love to watch you work and play. You are a night person and mind your own business. You should definitely marry an Armadillo.
August 11th (Pete - 57) - NEXT UP!!
August 14th (Allan - 73)
CATFISH (July 24 - Aug 23) Catfish are traditionalists in matters of the heart, although one's whiskers may cause problems for loved ones. You Catfish are never easy people to understand. You run fast. You work and play hard. Even though you prefer the muddy bottoms to the clear surface of life, you are liked by most. Above all else, Catfish should stay away from Moon Pies.
September 8th (Rob - 37)
GRITS (Aug 24 - Sept 23) Your highest aim is to be with others like yourself. You like to huddle together with a big crowd of other Grits. You love to travel though, so maybe you should think about joining a club. Where do you like to go? Anywhere they have cheese, gravy, bacon, butter, or eggs and a good time. If you can go somewhere where they have all these things, that serves you well. You are pure in heart.
December 29th (CM3 Shane - 62)
The age reflected is what you will be on your 2008 B'day!
Not on the list Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year - ie: May 18, 1938). Corrections too!
Hey Fergie! It's been well over a YEAR since you gave me the month-day - but NOT the year! <geesh>
Tom (Siberianmo)
LoveDomes wrote: Just read through my e-mail messages and must say, all of this surely could have been avoided. I looked at those "active" places and saw two with three times as many pages as "Our" Place III had. Why weren't they LOCKED Double standard stinks. I'll not go any further here, as I respect the wishes of our Esteemed Proprietor and good Captain, Tom!
Just read through my e-mail messages and must say, all of this surely could have been avoided. I looked at those "active" places and saw two with three times as many pages as "Our" Place III had. Why weren't they LOCKED Double standard stinks. I'll not go any further here, as I respect the wishes of our Esteemed Proprietor and good Captain, Tom!
Double standard? There is no double standard, no plot against you guys, no conspiracy theory. I lock these bigger threads as I come across them and as time permits. Don't worry, they'll get their routine locking soon.
Bergie
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