Well Leon I see we have a bit of company in the form of our local NZ connection Allan. Top up his glass of Tui for me won't you my lad.
Allan-So you and Tom share the same horror stories of the films snapping and then having to rethread them. I remember having to fix one's in school but the crowds there were not as rowdy,seeing as the filmboard educational flicks were not always that new, or interesting.Glad that you've been enjoying all the photo's.
Well since I'm still here how about another couple...
A gaggle of PCC's on the Harbourfront line in the 80's.
Herer's a neat one one of the Montreal tramways four purpose built sightseeing cars.This one is car #2.It's preserved at the Seashore trolley Museum in Kennebunkport Maine.This shot was taken in 2002 by one of our friends and museum counterparts that was down there swapping parts with the Seashore folks.Interestingly all four of Montreal's sightseers were saved. the only one still in Canada is at Exporail.
Another Canadian ex-pat also at Seashore is this single truck snowsweeper.Ottawa's B2
Here is a neat shiot from the museum archieves.It is a Niles built double truck car originally bought by TTC predessesor Toronto Civic RR. Seen here on Westin Ave in the early 50's while running out it's life on the TTC.The car was 40 years old in this picture.We had this car in our collection but it was scrapped in 1986 as it was too far beyond our ability to refurbish it.These were a 90% wooden car, with a metal underframe. Dry rot, and rust was too far along to make restoration possible.
Rob
Good evening Leon , just a small pitcher of draft tonight .Figured that I would pop back in this evening to catch up before teh oevr night crew gets in.
Tom-Sooo Dick kept you hopping , oh well it's good for the blood circulation n speacially with all those things you say you didn't have a chance to watch wondering about. I figured that that wayward locomotive must have been either a loner or a recent purchase , good to know that engineer Dave was on top of things.
Don't worry about September we will be getting back right about when Pete is leaving,would love to have you with us but hey we'll enjoy the sights for you.
Barn four is in edition to what we already have , all four barns will be and are needed.What will ahppen is it will allow us to do two things. First we get the outside stored cars and subway trains inside and protected.Second it gets permanent homes for the four cars that currently live in barn two which is our restoration building with all the shop equipment and the inspection pit.That means we can actually get back to restoring cars as we will have a place to take them apart in and work on them.
Okay another pitcher there Leon <burp> the draft ain't all that bad tonight Lets see a couple last shots for one and all.
A rare treat. VIA FP pulling one of the daily trains through Brantford in 1989, right at the tail end of the blue line cars and F's.
Two of the ex CP F units that were brought in by the Wisconsin Central to run the Agawa Canyon trains in the late 90's. Photo at Sault Ste Marie Ont. in 2002.
CP F7 in Toronto's John street yard in 1984.
Another CP F this time in the Aberdeen yard in Hamilton in 1983
Hi Tom and all,
Leon, the usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please!
Tom. Sounds as if you had to be a jack of all trades whilst at sea showing the flicks sometimes, it was hard enough threading up again after a film snap on terra firma never mind a rocking ship, they were very frustrating moments as you could hear the patrons yahooing and stomping their feet till the flick was running again. Some more great cab shots from your Dallas RDC adventure, those sky`s look really stormy when you took the pix. Your wall display cases` make a really great feature in your trainroom, they really look the part with all your retired model RR gear on show.
Rob. The NZ and Australian navies started off in similar fashion to the RCN with very much the same type of cruisers`. A fine spread of colourful diesel and trolley pix from your extensive collection.
Eric. My old memory is playing tricks again as far as those ABBA gals names are concerned, knew that the brunettes name was Frida, i`m very partial to brunettes. Interesting rear view mirror shot in that cab pic of Tom`s you posted and a fine Climax shot too. Bon Voyage for your trip back to the old country, have a very enjoyable time over there, and take care too.
CM3. Some interesting info on the "Paul Revere" passenger car consist and the "Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer" train.
Pete. The last time that I saw those Llandudno trams` was in 1952, will have to look on the net to see if they`ve restored any of the line. Those Newcastle area place name`s you visited on that Canny Coalman trip, it was like taking a step back in history reading through them. Some nice pix of the BR Standard Class 4 and 9F locos` with the info that 92212 was not built till 1959. Like you i`d love to visit Beamish sometime, at least you`ve had a visit there so i`m a bit envious, you never know ,you might squeeze in a visit during your up coming trip back?
See ya, Allan
<personal foto from ExpoRail>
G'day Gents!
Some action today - so time for a leg up on the acknowledgments . . .
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Thursday - August 21st <all times Central daylite>:
Page 10 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:11 AM: Meant to make comment on the NYC run from St. Louis to NY City - no diner between Buffalo ‘n Grand Central That's a bit odd, wouldn't ya think Hmmmm. Anyway, appreciate those kinds of things - which I really enjoy digging out from time to time in my copy of the Almanac.
How I would have luvd to have traveled the Laurentian - especially if powered by those great looking Alco's with the D&H bonnet livery! Yeah, that wudda been totally <sweet>.
Pleased to know that your Rendezvous III plaque has a place of significance . . . that was the idea!
Sorry to disappoint, but Choo Choo Coleman didn't ring a bell. I know NOW - since I searched - but . . .
By the by - I'm nearly half-way thru The Killing of History! A struggle - really a difficult read for the likes of Moi. And here I had TWO minors - sociology ‘n anthropology <straight As, by the by!!> Anyway, it's pretty much written as a text . . . which to me has always been defined as "Open book - eyes slam shut!" <grin> Anyway, there's quite a bit to digest 'n I'm not sorry that I finally got A-ROUNDTUIT! <grin>
As always, thanx for the quarters, ROUND ‘n fine chat! This place is always made better with you on board . . .
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 1:21 PM: One aspect of being married to a university teacher <Ed-U-Muh-Kay-Tuh> is that we always miss out on some of the finest times of the year in terms of getting away. The Fall in Nova Scotia, for example - or anywhere for that matter when the leaves are turning - just can't take off for an extended period. No "substitutes" in college when it comes to teaching . . . So, our "windows" for vacations are pretty much solidified into the Christmas break <longest one of the year> ‘n early May to early June <which isn't bad>. Would dearly love to make that late September trip with you though . . . sounds like a winner!
Just may shut the place down when you're gone - for with you AND Pete away, this place will definitely be a daylite morgue. <ugh> Although I believe he departs around the beginning of October . . .
Nice spate of CP motive power - like the variations on the GP9 . . . watch for a couple of those coming up on my Dallas spread.
Someone better own up to those prune Danishes, otherwise we've going to put ‘em in the blender ‘n send ‘em over to The Mentor Village Dispensary ‘n Septic Tank Cleaners for use as enemas! <yikes>
I know this may be hard for you to believe <since you KNOW me!> but there wasn't any time for gal-watching during that Dallas trip! Honestly - Mr. Watkins had me on the move from the beginning ‘til the end of the day. It was a fantastic whirl-wind event. <phew> Rear view mirror notwithstanding . . . <grin>
That Indiana & Ohio unit was on "loan" according to what Dave the Engineer said.
Many thanx for your fine <I3> Post, fotos ‘n good cheer!
Page 10 - Pete <pwolfe> at 2:25 PM: Yeah sure, next you'll tell me is that "the Editor" was at work. Hmmmmm. Okay, stranger things have happened ‘round here - especially to YOU! <grin> Charlie Brightlite it was!
One of the guys I spoke with during my round trip aboard the Chaleur was of the opinion that the "European junk" would NOT be put on the line. But he quickly pointed out that VIA Rail has frequently done precisely the opposite of what their experienced people have thought. Anyone's guess . . . An inescapable bit of logic is that dome cars are not revenue producing - in other words, they are simply "fluff" - extra. So with the wrong mix of bean counters ‘n people at the helm, who knows what the next iteration of cars will be like for those wonderful Budd cars traversing the landscape I'd like to see some serious exploration of the single level UltraDomes from Colorado RailCar . . . all seats would provide revenue - and of course provide one hulluva view! Of course the ideal would be some double-deckers too . . . but all of that translates to big dollars. Again, anyone's guess . . .
I may have fixed your plaque, but I forgot to bring along a hammer ‘n nails to put ‘em BOTH up! <grin>
Hate to break the news to ya, Mate - but IF you were to "run into" the ABBA gals at any of those stations you plan to use, they'll probably look quite different! <grin> Too bad they have to age, eh
Nice spate of fotos - I like #92212 best!
Many thanx for your <I3> Post, chat, fotos ‘n
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 4:42 PM: Back with another ROUND ‘n trolley fotos <what else>, eh Super-fine shots, Mate!
Methinks your museum needs some help from Vito's Electricity ‘r US! Specializing in the newest innovation in perimeter fencing, called Vandals B-gone - Zap, Another One Bites the Dust! <uh oh>
Glad you liked the International set of posters . . . hope Eric gets to check ‘em out. I know he'll be looking ‘in' - for he's got quite a "gadget" that permits him to be on-line virtually anywhere. Not sure if that includes Europe - but we'll see.
50th years of anything is quite formidable - so we visited Halton County's fine museum during the 51st year, eh Not bad . . .
Sounds like the barn you described will be a monster. Is it replacing anything that we saw during Rendezvous I
Again - appreciate the visit, ROUND, chat ‘n fotos!
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Tom
Good afternoon Leon , the place has been busy today which is good ( sould be the new scenery behind the bar not that the old scenery was bad ) just a Guiness while I collect my thoughts,I've left a twenty for a late afternoon round as well.
Pete-More great photo's sir,nice to know that the scanner is working upto it's full potential for you , also you must be keeping the black bag away from the scanner Once barn four is completed next year it ashould be able to house 30-36 pieces of equipment so everything that is needing restoration will have a home away from the elements and away from the vandels.
Tom-Now there are some fine fine posters,caught just about every corner of our ,<GOR's> territory with those. Thanks for the top up,seem's Cindy has brought out the best in us today
Lets see a couple more new one's from the museum for everybody.
An open side shot of 23. Which restoration is now complete,she gets speacial occation use only at the moment as we haven't started a comprehensive operators training on her yet.
A shot of our first car 1326 at the 2005 50th aniversary festivities. Museum member #1 John Mills is at the controls.
Crane Car C1 sunning itself in Yard three. ( in front of Barn 3 )
Oshawa Line car 45 parked in yard two also on the 50th aniversary day
A fine afternoon with our Manager ‘n Bar Chandler making daylite submissions for the enjoyment of the crew! As always, comments in my next round of acknowledgments - but by all means, have one on me - Cindy - fill ‘em up! <grin>
Now Arriving on Track #1
Six Pack Special Number Fourteen
RR advertisements from the Classic Era
International Special
(1) Ireland
(2) Amsterdam-Kopenhagen Express
(3) Canadian National Railways - Through Canada
(4) Denmark - Lillebaltsbroen <1951>
(5) Lapland - Sweden
(6) Norwegian State Railways
Enjoy!
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Bathams please CINDY as RUTH is away on a few days break.
ROB Thanks for the details on No. 327 in the parade on the TTC.
Although those other London cars could not be saved it was good some parts were able to be used for the preserved car.
Many thanks for the great photos from your museum. I did like the night photo; it is a rare sight nowadays to see the old vehicles at night. I think late is a great color scheme PCC #s 4000 and 4600 are in. No 23 looks to be coming on really well in its renovation.
Great news about Barn 4.How many trolleys will it be able to accommodate when it is finished
Like the photo of Ontario Northland # 1604 with the dome car in the background and thanks for the CP photos, GP 9 # 8516 looks not to be in too bad a condition considering it is about to enter works.
I too don't understand why the Prune Danishes have reappeared in great numbers again not for me though; I use the real ale method of regulation.
NICK Great to see you back in the bar. Thanks for the round.
ALLAN I can recall seeing photos of a tramway hat ran between Llandudno and Colwyn Bay but unfortunately I cannot recall it running.
Glad you enjoyed the Canny Coalman trip details and the photos. It is great looking through my old notes of trips for it brings back memories and details I had forgotten of the day, like finding that café open in the early morning in Newcastle. I bet the area the train traveled is a lot different now to what is today, I really wish I had been able to do that tour in the 1950s.
I would enjoy another visit to Beamish; it is a few years now since I was last there.
ERIC Have a really great holiday.
Yes the scanner is working well I have copied over 650 photos already. I do think though there is a lot more I could do with it when I find out how.
I will look forward to seeing a larger photo of your painting when you get back.
It is hard to believe it was 15 years ago since the Canny Coalman tour, as I said to Allan, when looking through the notes some trips seem like yesterday.
Many thanks for the photos. Saginaw & Manistee Lumber Co. Shay No 5 looks in great condition.
CM3. I guess the railroad companies as well, ran special trains just for employees to their works and depots.
Yes the Canny Coalman was a good tour made possible by the overnight journey to get to the area. It was run by Pathfinder Railtours who had some great names for their tours, often with a name relating to the area the tour was traveling will let Allan explain the word ‘Canny' which is a word usually used in the Newcastle-on-Tyne area. One of favorite train names from Pathfinder was ‘The Rylestone Cowboy' which visited a branch line that served a Quarry of that name.
Many thanks for the details on Trains 78 ‘Paul Revere'.Was much of the Pittsburgh to Massena line traveled in daylight.
I see in the latest Trains Magazine (September) there is a photo of 5 Shays and a Heisler at Cass Depot on the West Virginia Cass Scenic Railroad it is a great sight.
TOM I did say Charlie in my post Tuesday but somehow it got changed to George yesterday.
It would be good to run into the females in that station cleaning crew on my trip over there.
Many thanks for the great photos from the RDC cab in Dallas. In photo #28 they look like UP diesels you are passing and in photo #29 it is a Indiana & Ohio locomotive as the second unit, a railroad I know very little about and I don't think I have seen one of their locomotives before.
It seems we have turned to page 10 on Our Place IV in very quick time.
Thanks for the link to I-Max. I though there was some connection between I-Max and Montreal, the cinema will have to be one of the first things to visit if we get to Exporail again.
Yes I think as well it will be a very sad day on the Chaleur if those Budd cars are replaced by Renaissance cars. I was very glad I was able to sample them although on our trip we were not able to get all the way to Gaspe.
I think you fixed my Rendezvous Plaque during your visit here.
Thanks for the pint..
A couple of photos of BR Standard locomotives.
Br Standard class 4 4-6-0 No. 75014 at Edinburgh Waverley station before heading a special to Inverness. This class of locos were not common in Scotland. In 1958 75014 was allocated to Chester shed.
75014 takes water on a special southbound on the Settle & Carlisle line at Garsdale. 75014 has been given a bit of the appearance of the last days of BR steam with the missing numberplate etc.
Another photo of 9F 'Spaceship' 2-10-0 No. 92212 on the Great Central Railway this time at Rothley station.I like the scene where one of the station staff is talking to one of the crew. It is strange to think that 92212 was not built yet in 1958 but in 1959 was allocated to Banbury shed.
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Well CINDY a round pleaseand the Fish 'N' Chips a bit later.
Pete.
Good morning Cindy, always a pleasure to see you Just a quick belt of CR in the coffee thermos please. No Boris I don't wish any of the prune danishes , who keeps ordering these anyway , Pete the chandler must be having "flow" problems again, too much rich food as intern Governor General.
Eric-Nice fix up of Tom's photo the two brunettes ( rearview mirror and out in front ) almost look related. they grow them well in Texas < pant pant > I hope that you have a pleasant trip , hopefully we do see you a couple times along the way , but if not no worries mate we'll keep your seat warm for you . No Boris don't put the blow torch under the stool , just go feed the critters .
Isn't it amazing how long locomotives electric and otherwise can last depending on teh amount of care an attention.CN ran their EE built Z1a box cabs in Montreal for an incredible length of time. They were built in the early 1900's and most were not retired until the 90's. A few are still around as back-ups in case the newer EMU's ( themselves ) almost 40 years old fail.
Tom-Another fine spat of Dallas shots.That Indiana and Ohio locomotive looks like it's a ways from home though .I'd love to give you more phoot's of the dome car but alas that's the onlu one I have. I'm more of a motive power guy when I shoot photo's. However Heather and I are concidering a run on either the Polar bear or the Algoma Central for our vacation in September. Not to worry it's the last week of the month running into October,so I'll give plenty of warning before we head out for the week.Perhaps Boris can build an infaltable robotioc version of me to keep an I on Pete. <grin>
Shane-I'm glad you enjoyed the PCC's and other photo's Thanks for the DH passenger tain info,I'm keeping it in the memory
Lets see oh yes Cindy since I've been in a bit longer hows about a refill Keep the change, you can put it towards the next Ladies of Perpetual Motion Victoria Secret fashion shows <pant pant >
A couple more photo's for the gang ( one's I don't think I've shown before as I've been scaning the old shots this week,some are mine some are my uncles some are one's I've picked up here and there )
A CP SW1500 ( ex Soo line probably ex Milw ) switching at Binghamton NY in 2002
CP torpedo tube GP 9 at Aberdeen Yard in Hamilton 1987 right before she went through the Calgary rebuild shop.
CP GP9u rebuild at Galt ontario in 2002 , oddley enough when I checked the roster info this is the same locomotive as the last picture a before and after (15 years apart )
enjoy
Shane has been "in" with more classic trains insights! And of course a ROUND 'n quarters - his staple 'round here! <grin> More specifics in my next set of acknowledgments!
More from my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure with Dick Watkins . . .
More to follow!
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Good weather continues today - hard to believe we were under water last week at this time.
Rob - Lotsa PCC pictures - lovely! Also enjoyed the ON shots.
Nick - Nah! It's a mirage - I think....
Allan - Good to hear from you as well.
Eric - Safe travels.
Pete - Employee trains in the U.S. were not just confined to mining. Many cases they carried miners or employees from home to the job site. It all depended on where you were as many mines in WV had company towns largely because of their isolated locations. It was different in other places where mines were developed after town were already in place.
"Canny Coalman?" Yikes - where did they come up with that? No Boris, it's not the same as Choo Choo Coleman (I'm sure OSP remembers him). I would have enjoyed that tour as it covered a lot of territory.
NYC 78 was the "Paul Revere." It carried sleepers from Cleveland, Cincinnati, and St. Louis to Boston, a Buffalo-Albany sleeper, and Pittsburgh to Massena. I know I talked about this one a long time ago here This last car operated via Utica, Rome, and Watertown; one of the more exotic NYC Pullman lines. A diner ran between Albany and Boston. Coaches operated from Cleveland and St. Louis to Boston. The St. Louis cars, of course, were handed off from train 12 at Cleveland.
Now here's one for Rob. Again from NYC in 1950; one I would have liked to have ridden. This was a NYC-D&H-Rutland interline train.
Train 144 "Laurentian-Green Mountain Flyer"
Diner Montreal-Troy (D&H 34); Troy-New York
Coaches Montreal-New York (from D&H 34 at Troy); Montreal-New York (from RUT 64 at Troy)
That's all I can stands, I can's stands no more.
OSP was in with more study shots of track and signals. The sunkist can is a nice touch - around here, it's a Stanley thermos. The plaque photo has been fine. It sits beside the EMD-produced lithograph of an A-B-A set of Wabash F units in what passes for my office space. I know what you mean about prices of hobby stuff - I really watch the $ that way.
Work Safe
<IT Rail bus at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
And it's Thursday <already> - my, my how time flies, eh
Breakfasts, pastries ‘n coffee are all fresh ‘n ready to go!
I see CINDY has come in early . . . she'll be working Ruth's shift 'til Tuesday . . . <pant> <pant>
Wednesday - August 20th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 10 - Allan <Gunneral> at 9:10 PM <4:10 PM Thursday NZ time>: Figured you'd get a laff from poor Charlie Brightlite's plight in the booth! <yikes>
Appreciate your comments regarding the Can-Am Train Room's display cases - much of that stuff had been relegated to being boxed up ‘n outta sight. Once I got back to the hobby ‘n constructed the train room, it seemed like a good idea to put those loco's ‘n rolling stock on view. Took awhile to come up with "exactly" what I was looking for - but as you can see, the cases do justice to the collection. Most of what is in them are "budget" priced - hardly what's become of the hobby today. What's on my layout - now that's ‘nother story - but still far cheaper than the "trendy" ‘n "super expensive" HO offerings out there now.
Every now ‘n then I'd show flicks aboard ship - when our regular projectionist was unavailable. Used to spend lots of time rethreading . . . <groan> Of course the guys were always "helpful" with their <hooting> ‘n <hollering> while the ship was rockin' ‘n rollin' and poor Moi was trying to do the best I could with equipment that probably came out right after the candle-powered versions! <grin>
Anything with the ABBA gals is special . . . but those TUI brewery gals are super-fine as well! <pant> <pant>
Thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 10 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 10:23 PM: Back again for a quadsome at the bar - busy, busy boy on Wednesday! Wondering if the Editor was about the decks. Hmmmmmm.
Since the museum owns the car - what in the world do the unions have to do with operating it Just musing - no need to engage on this. Just kinda sez a lot about the stranglehold, eh <barf>
I'm <panting> over that dome car behind the great looking ONR diesel! More - more <on the car that is!>
Thanx for #4 . . .
Thursday - August 21st:
Page 10 - Eric <EricX2000> at 1:05 AM <11:05 PM Wednesday Sandbox time>: Last visit for awhile - but not as long an absence as I had been thinking . . . that's a PLUS <for us!> September 7th isn't that far off . . .
Great foto enhancement . . . I'll retain that one for my album - thanx! Didn't even know there was a gal in the rear view - was looking at the one through the cab window! <grin>
Well if I MUST - I'll "settle" for the blonde . . . I KNOW how you are regarding brunettes!
Figured the "tapping" would work with your plaque foto - hope Pete ‘n Shane pick up on it too.
You'll enjoy the rail offerings in Dallas - it would be even better for a mini-Rendezvous! But, as mentioned, we haven't a connection down there anymore . . . Per was the last ‘n last I heard he was heading back to SoCal . . . Wonder why he left us without so much as a good-bye Always enjoyed his company ‘round here. He's been sighted on the Forums - many times since. Oh well, his loss too.
I think that #5 in Williams was shown a time or two - but ALWAYS enjoy see her again!
Appreciate the < I3 > Post, good cheer ‘n cash for a ROUND!
Bon voyage my friend ‘n we'll be thinking of you, hoping everything turns out even better than anticipated!
Reminder:Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, tonight is the night for my favorite Rumpsteak Café de Paris!!! Yes, a cold Tui would be perfect! Oh, here is enough $$$ to give all the guys a free drink next time they show up.
Last night I can stop by here for a while. I am leaving Friday morning for the old country and will be back September 7. I'm bringing my laptop so hopefully I will be able to stop by a few times during my vacation, but I don't have any dates. So, you better be careful, watch out for Vito, you can't trust him.
Tom – Well, I still think you should go through all your slides. I am sure you have forgotten some of the good ones! You are correct about no place being 100% safe and secure. But we don’t want to sell this house (almost all paid for) and start paying on a new mortgage. But, as I said, if (when) we win the powerball we can buy the place we want cash! I know there was more than one named train in western Canada, but I never heard the name Super Continental before. They still build very long lasting locomotives and cars for the railroads. The oldest electrics in daily service in Sweden today, class Ma, are 48-55 years old, still going strong. The most common type, class Rc, were built 1967-1987 (same as Amtrak’s AEM-7). Next time I get to Dallas I am going to take a ride in one of those RDCs. Very nice cab shots from your ride! Hope you don’t mind I adjusted your photo #21. Here it is.
Tom's photo #21. A lot of details! I think he took this photo because of the lady in the rear view mirror!
Ahh, I love those “retired” trains you have on display in the Can-Am room! Including RDCs!A minor adjustment of the Rendezvous III plaque has been done! Thank you for the ABBA photo! She, Frida (the brunette), looks gorgeous as always! But that photo was taken some years ago. CM3 – The Climax was donated to the museum by Sunkist Growers, Inc. and its subsidiary, Fruit Growers Supply Company. Pretty steep price on the book, but I think it is possible to find it cheaper. Yes, it is amazing how many things that have to be done before leaving on a trip. I have a long to-do-list for tomorrow, Thursday. DL – Glad you liked the photos! I am not a big peanut fan so I’ll pass! Prefer pretzels. Or real food!!Pete – I see that you have the same kind of memory I have, will remember numbers but not names! So you are going to pay Vito? I guess you better play it safe! You should recognize the scanner! Mine is still working just fine. I hope you are satisfied with yours. A larger picture of my painting? I’ll fix that when I get back. Thanks for the trip report! Class 56 looks modern! September 1993, that is almost exactly 15 years ago!Rob – You are right, very few of those old, classic looking, ships survive today. Most warships preserved today are from WW II. I like those old fashion singe truck cars! They are special! I actually worked on some of that type back in the early 1960’s! They were called Jitterbugs, it’s not too hard to understand why. Nice photos of the double truck car! Career as a water color painter? Thank you, but I don’t think so! I used to draw a lot of sketches of different things in younger days, but not any more. Today I am using the computer to create pictures of different kinds. I like the photos of the PCCs! #4600 is a very good looking one! That Cincinnati Car Company car is indeed a different looking car! I like it!GP 9 #1604 has been doing a lot of hard work in its life time! Nice photos! Nick – Good to see you again, Sir! Now it is my turn to be away for a couple of weeks.Allan – Ooops, I think you have the same kind of memory as Pete and I, hard to remember names! The ABBA girls are Agneta and Frida! But I'll remember to tell them a BIG Hi from you if and when I see them.
I don't remember if I showed this photo earlier. Anyway, here it is (again).
Williams, AZ.
Eric
Good evening again Leon. Looks like you've had the busiest shift shift today.Oh well that's what happens round this joint.Might as well have a top up.
Tom-Nice photo of the Rocket, Montreal's first electric streetcar.To clarify 327 is the museum's.The TTC requested we send it back for their 80th birthday parade ( which we did ) as they have done and still do a lot of stuff for us.
As a side bar if Pete can try then so can I.
Allan-Good to see you in again tonight That was a nice picture of the gang from Sweden that Tom found for Eric I think the open streetcar or breezers as some of teh US systems called them were a fixture on most of the bigger systems,espeacially if there was a body of water near by.They were the summer treat for the trolley passengers.I'm glad that you found those old RCN cruisers interesting.I'm sure that when the Australian and New Zealand navies were created that they got some help and old equipment from England as well.
Well since Nick is back here are a couple more photo's to amke him happy.I'm sure that Tom will pant over the one as well.
A shot of GP 9 1604 in Cochrane Ontario with the Polar Bear express parked in behind.
Same locmotive this time in North Bay Ontario.
Rob. We are a bit lucky down here stormwise, but we do get the tail ends` of some of the Pacific cyclones` now and then, but we can`t complain too much. Some very interesting info on those old RCN cruisers`. A very nice selection of trolley pix from you, they operated some similar looking open tram`s in Llandudno, North Wales, from what I remember BITD.
Eric. Fine pix of your PC den with all the pictures and plaques, a great workspace layout, and the Alco # plate. Have a safe and happy trip back to your old home country, if you see the ABBA girls`, Birgit and Freda, say a BIG "Hi" from me.
CM3. Thanks for that info on your Dad`s job. Very interesting info on the "Southwestern Limited" car consist.
Dan. A nice continuation of your Eurostar trip with the links to the Gare info and pix. Very interesting links to the canal and the RAF sites` with all the info and pix. My bride and I spent our honeymoon in Hastings in 1961, we travelled on that line on the trip to Hastings, some more nostalgic memories you conjured up for me again, thanks for that.
Pete. Some more great memories of your Co-Op bike delivery happenings`. Interesting to read that the coach was used in the G&I tramway as well as the Gateshead tram. Great write up on your Canny Coalman trip, all those familiar place name`s make`s me wish I could see them once again. My bride brought back quite a lot of photos` of the Beamish main street area etc and the the vistor`s guide book. A couple of good shots of the Class 37 and 56.
Nick. Great to see you in on a quick visit mate.
Tom. It`s exactly the same over here as well, you have to be very PC in what you say and do in public, it`s getting beyond a joke! Had a great laugh at that Mentor Village Gazette story on the projectionist`s predicament, we had to keep our sleeves` rolled up threading up and working around the projectors` just in case! A really fine couple of sets of pix of your Dallas RDC trip, some really great cab shots indeed. Very interesting Fallen Flags` #12 on the NYC RR passenger trains with those Drumhead pix, and a beautiful spread of pix of your Display Cases` in the Can Am train room, you have a very comprehensive collection of model trains that's for sure. That`s a great ABBA poster you put up for Eric`s trip back home.
Seems there's been sufficient activity in daylite 'n darkness to warrant some catch-up acknowledgments!
Page 9 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 8:52 AM: Our WVA slave to fashion made it in with some super-fine material on the NYCs passenger service between New York City ‘n St. Louis.
As always, a fine start to our morning, with a ROUND for the "flies" 'n quarters for Herr Wurlitzer!
Page 9 - Pete <pwolfe> at 3:12 PM: And enter the Bar Chandler with fare for all . . .
I've also wondered whether what we heard at ExpoRail ever came to fruition regarding that great film we watched. From time to time I've done web searches, hoping to find something regarding that steam presentation. Nothing.
Didjano that IMax had it's origins in Canada - Expo 1967 in Montréal In 1971, IMax was permanently installed in a Toronto theatre. Later, OmniMax came on scene for its first showing in San Diego in 1973.
Info from: http://www.omsi.edu/visit/omnimax/specs.cfm
Thanx for the fotos ‘n descriptions of your Newcastle rail tour!
Yes, there's quite a bit to check out in those Can-Am Train Room display cases . . . best seen by enlarging ‘em, of course.
This should be year 2 of the 5 year renewal of the contract to run the Chaleur, if what I heard is correct. If they ever drop the Budd equipment, that would be the end of my interest in that run. No fun without a dome - absolutely no interest from me, should that happen. I'm just pleased that I've had the opportunity to experience such a great round-trip as I did this past spring.
Good to have you aboard on this day ‘n appreciate the < I3 > Post, fotos ‘n ROUND! Your next pint is on me! <clink>
Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 3:18 PM ‘n 3:35 PM: What Ho! Our Manager has dropped by during the mid-afternoon as well!
Sorry, Mate - one cannot "try" that which one has been consuming for years! <geesh>
After giving Ruth the afternoon off, I gotta hug that wouldn't quit! I've still got the indentations! <oooooooops> Hope Cindy doesn't notice . . . <grin>
Don't really want to wager a guess regarding our man in west Wales, but he's sorely missed. <groan>
Eight gradients, top speed 35 mph - pretty much comes out just a tad above 4 mph per "notch." Anyway, surely wouldn't want the union folks to be upset about something that shudda been for fun, rather than anything else. Oh well, what do I know Curious mind needs to know - who owns the car - TTC or the Halton County museum
Last time I saw him, CharlieBrightlite was walking with a definitive limp - in more than one place <limp, that is!>. . . <ouch>
Wunnerful traction shots - all!
Most appreciative for your daylite visits - they really mean a lot when it comes to the "You Post, I Post" idea . . . otherwise, there'd be zip, zero, zilch from me ‘til the acknowledgments. Then if no one Posted - there'd be none of that either! <groan>
ROUND, chat ‘n Pix deserve a top-up from the bar keep! <clink>
Page 9 - Nick <nickinwestwales> at 8:02 PM <2:02 AM Thursday GMT>: Can it be Is it really Nah, must be a mirage . . . <grin> But - wait a sec, "someone" purchased a ROUND in his name! Hmmmmmm.
Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 8:22 PM: Back to complete a trifecta with a splendid spate of traction!
Mr. Watkins was seen logged on several times after he departed the scene here. Not regularly - as some have been - but now ‘n then. Most strange thing when guys you begin to think you know - just skedaddle out the door. He's surely not alone with that behavior . . . but that was then ‘n this is NOW.
Thanx for the 2nd ROUND, fotos ‘n chat!
Good evening Leon, I see that Boris is grinning ear to ear ( or it might just be gas ) hard to tell with Boris after all . I'll have a Keith's at the far end of the bar just in case it is gas. Right a round for the house as well Leon , we gots to pay the bills .
Nick-How wonderfull to have our minstral and head back. Boris was so happy that he baked a cake, however I would just appear to sample it, swallowing may not be advisable.Good to see you back and refreshed from your holiday,Boris was counting the "sleeps" until you got back.
Tom-Ahh yes our first multiple of bar mk 4,only five more to go <bratafratz grrrr > More fine photo's from Dallas.Thinking out loud I wonder if Dick even visits the forums anymore I've not seen his cyber name on it really since he left here.Hopefully he's alright.
Lets see a few more photo's to liven the joint up with.
The TTC's only remaining small Witt 2766 used for the occational charter,seen here on Bloor street in the early 80's
A recent shot of London 23 in barn three at the museum. this weekend the long awaited excavating of barn four begins as well
Another shot of our small Witt 2894
Montreal and Southern Counties 107 ( museum's third car ) on the line beside barn one.
A shot from the Rockhill museum in PA of the only surviving and operable Cincinnati Car Company curve sider
Well good evening gentlemen all-As I am just back from a couple of weeks away,I thought I ought to poke my head round the door,perhaps buy a round or two (Leon:-make it so #1) and generally act the penitant:-.......
O.K-penitant only works for so long-Well chaps-am delighted to be back in my own bed-is lovely to visit and stay in touch,also to get `stuff` taken care of when needful but there is nothing to beat one`s own bed..........
Will be right back atcha-but for now,this is me signing out......
As a departure from my policy of trying to avoid back-to-back Posts - we're at a multiple of TEN - time to remind all on-lookers of the way we do things 'round here <from Page One>
"Our" Place III was locked today by Kalmbach, so "Our" Place IV has begun on this 31st day of July 2008.Final statistics for "Our" Place III:REPLIES: 1,254VIEWS: 25,965PAGES: 63* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *The links to the old bars:#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains." The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains. All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.Objective: Have fun!Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch. Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Final statistics for "Our" Place III:
REPLIES: 1,254
VIEWS: 25,965
PAGES: 63
The links to the old bars:
#1 - http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587
#2 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/201/991960/ShowPost.aspx#991960
#3 - http://cs.trains.com/forums/63/1500733/ShowPost.aspx#1500733
<Note: #1 had 451 Pages - #2 had 201 Pages - #3 had 63 Pages . . . hmmmmmm>
What's different Nothing! Same crew, same way of doing things and hopefully the same supporting cast that has kept us afloat all this time.
History: "Our" Place began on April 12th, 2005 on the General Discussion (Classic Trains) Forum.
Concept: An adult bar & grill for all who are interested in and familiar with "Classic Trains."
The conversations are as they would be in a neighborhood bar, where people know one another and share stories, photos and other information relevant to the idea of the Forum - Classic Trains.
All of this with some humor thrown in and the rest is simple.
Objective: Have fun!
Ground rules: Leave ALL emotional baggage and "attitudes" on the front porch.
Be inclusive with your comments through the acknowledgment of the other guy's efforts. Hit ‘n run Posts are not welcome.
Greet the bartender upon entering and order a drink or food. Pretty easy, eh
Good to see our Manager - and - Bar Chandler visit with us during the daylite hours of mid-afternoon on this Wednesday!
No, Sir Moderation - the Gazette "clip" was about Charlie Brightlite <see Tuesday AM acknowledgments> . . .
Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
Here's one for Eric as he makes ready for his trip to Sweden! Hmmmm, appears these folks are in the UK! <grin>
Rule of Six suspended <by two>!
Eastbound to Dallas in cab of TRE RDC #2011
(19) Dave the Engineer
(20) Cab controls
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Well look at that Sir Pete has made it in Tom I think I'll TRY another Keith's then since I have someone to sit and share it with
Pete-As usual some neat shots of the class 37's. Can't get much more English than them 327 was a bit on the cool side when we run it's airconditioning So we tend to keep the windows closed. We almost had two of those London cars. There were three that weere used in Springbank Park as park buildings. Two were changerooms for the pool the other was a hot dog stand.The food stand car was too modified and deteriorated to be saved,we treide to jack up the other one put the dry rot was to extensive so we got the one and a bunch of bits and pieces from the other to make a complete car.Yes teh Niobe and it's mate weer aboyut ten yeasr past their prime when we got them,and it was not worth spending loads of money to maintain them as the designs were obsolete even by WW1 standards.they served their purpose and their crews were split between eight ships so in the end it all worked out.
Well since I'm back I'll put up another couple of museum shots.
A night shot of Large Witt 2424 in front of Rockwood station.
PCC grinding train W30 and W31 in front of barn 3
1936 built Air electric PCC 4000
1951 built all eelctric PCC 4600
Afternoon Tom. Nice of you to let Ruth off to finish some of her last minute stuff <whataguy>.I'll just TRY a Keith's please.
I see that the "unhealthy" glow from the hills has subsided.Most likley due to the Mentor Hazmats requested and repeated orders.That or the creosote plant ran dry. Supprising that no pete has popped by, I'm guessing that Nick's still busy with the MIL,hopefully we see him soon or Boris will slip into his funk that he gets into when his lord and master is absent.
There isn't much of a grade wheer the parade took place.327 was designed for a top speed of about 35 mph at fully bore notch 8.At anyrate she's never run at that speed becuase it's not required so the TTC wanted a nice pace for the onlookers ( and company and paper photographers ) anyway so they set the speed accordingly.Heather was unimpressed by teh speeds at which they used it,however at our insistance the operators were museum members as no one at the TTC would have a clue how to run the car at any rate.It helped that the member was a retired TTC guy so the union was happy as well.
I have to say I was trying not to envision the poor projectionist and his plight from the gazette excerpt.I had no luck however.
Nice to see the equipment cases again, oh what a speacial run day could happen on the days (daze) the retired stuff gets it's occational run.
Eric-Always a ton of running around to do the last few days before a trip,weather it be a one day of a one month trip it's always the same.Looks like you could embark on a third career as a water colour painter
Shane-Was in with some NYC reminicances and some interesting info on the electrification and RDC usuage on the NYC
Well Tom I think I'll leave you a bit of cash for an afternoon round of the best.
A pint of Bathams before you go on holiday please RUTH, oh I see you have left already, so it must be Tom behind the bar.
TOM I am a bit confused as usual, was the Gazette article the one about George, I did make a comment about that in my post yesterday near the end of my post (no editing honest).
I thought that great film we saw on the I-Max screen was going on general release but I have not seen anything about it being shown. Yes the Exporail is a museum well worth a return visit and I recall you saying the Chaleur will be running for a few more years,at least, lets hope the train is still formed by those great BUDD cars for a long time to come.
As you say, if Dick Watkins was still with us at the bar there seems plenty to see and do in Dallas for a Rendezvous. I am looking forward to the next Rendezvous in West Virginia.
It would have been great to travel from St Louis to New York out by either PRR or NYC and back by the other back in the day.
Many thanks for the great photos of the display cases in the Can-Am train room. Noticed the GG1s in passenger and freight liveries and enjoyed studying those older Canadian National and Canadian Pacific passenger cars on the 2nd from bottom shelf in the last photo.
ROB I'm real glad VITO and his boys will not have to work overtime this weekend at the concrete galoshes plant.
I guess Niobe was quite an out-dated design when they were sold.
It sounds as though No. 327 would be quite nippy running in notch 8. Many thanks for great photos from your museum of the restoration on London Street Tramway No.23. It is good that the last Canadian example of the type was saved.
ERIC I bet you are looking forward to your holiday now it is nearly time to go on it, I am sure you will have a great time.
It would be great to see a larger photo of the picture you painted, perhaps when you get back.
CM3 Thinking about the NCB passenger trains I wonder if at some pits over an area, the bathhouse was some distance from the pitheads and the trains took the miners to the bathhouse.
I know Iowa Traction has small electric locomotives moving freight I wonder if any of the class 1s use electric traction on freight today.
One of the most unusual school train trips still worked, or at least until fairly recently, must be the one operated by the 15 inch guage Romney Hythe & Dymchurch Railway in Kent.
Many thanks for the details on the NYC Southwestern Limited consist. I see it was possible to travel from St Louis to Boston either by Sleeper or Coach on the Southwestern. I guess there would be a meal service after New York onward to Boston in the cars from train 78.
While looking for the details of the car at Beamish Open Air museum I came across a tour we did to the North East on a Friday night and Saturday September 1993. The tour was the Pathfinder Railtours 'Canny Coalman'. I would like to describe the tour if I may as it visited some places I am sure Allan will be familiar with.
The tour left Birmingham New Street and we traveled overnight and stopped for a time at Carlisle, after which we traveled along the Carlisle to Newcastle line via Haltwhistle. The train was hauled by two class 37s Nos. 37054 and 37219.
Class 37
We arrived in Newcastle in the early morning and I can recall we found a café near the station and had a good breakfast. For the tour of the freight lines we had a class 56 at both ends of the train, they were 56133 & 56107.
Class 56.
The tour took us to Benton North Junction, Newsham Junction and Bates Colliery (Reverse). Then back to Newsham Junc. (Rev) onto Lynemouth Alcan. Another reverse to Ashington Junc.(Rev) then onto Butterwell Junc. and Widderington Junc. where we hoping to go on to the open cast branch but could not as it was occupied.
We then had a trip through Newcastle Station Goods lines and onto Dean Road exchange sidings. We then returned to Newcastle with a tour over both King Edward and the High Level Bridges before handing over to the 37s and returning home via York, Sheffield and Derby.
Well Tom a round please..
Shane was "in" - some fine NYC info. Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
Ruth - looks like this day is a "wash" - go ahead 'n secure for the day. I'm sure you have some things to attend to prior to your flight from Can-Am International . . . We'll miss ya while you're gone. Give our best regards to you-know-who!
Display Cases in the Can-Am Train Room
<each case is 2 x 4 ft ‘n made of Lucite>
(1) Retired U.S. RR passenger trains <case A>
(2) Retired U.S. RR passenger trains <case B>
(3) Retired U.S. RR freight trains <case A>
(4) Retired U.S. RR freight trains <case B>
(5) Retired Canadian RWY passenger trains <case A>
(6) Retired Canadian RWY passenger trains <case B>
(7) Retired Canadian RWY passenger trains <case A - reverse view>
(8) Retired Canadian RWY passenger trains <case B - reverse view>
Good morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Another nice day today for which we are grateful.
DL - We have more than steel toes as the rulebook says we have to have metatarsal guards as well. I was intrigued by what you found while looking for something else - we had a similar situation during the Rendezvous trip to Springfield earlier this spring. Eric posted pictures of the restored station that we found. I also enjoyed more of your travelogue.
Pete - That's why I asked the question about the car in your picture. BTW, New York Central ran RDC trains in WV around Charleston to get kids to and from school. New York Central electrification was (for the most part) around New York City. Main line electrification ran from Grand Central to Harmon where power was swapped out. Power was also swapped out at White Plains - the latter line is all electrified now, something that was done after I left the area. No, Boris, it's not because they thought I couldn't be trusted around electricity!
Rob was by with shop pictures.
Eric - Always a lot of last minute stuff to do, no matter how far ahead you plan.
OSP was by with more track shots - the signals look like the "new" ones that are being installed on both the old C&O and old N&W. Nice rerun batch of NYC material, but I am biased. The book you included is a good one.
PCBs - nothing wrong with them at the time. Kind of like when lead was used as a gasoline additive. As one of my IH friends says, "It's all about discovering that we didn't know as much as we thought we did."
Back in the day, the NYC St. Louis train was the "Southwestern.' It was right up there with the "Century" in terms of appointments, services, etc. Here's a 1950-era sample consist for those who might be interested.
Train 12 "Southwestern Limited."
Observation lounge sleeping car (5 double bedroom buffet) St. Louis-New York
Lounge Sleeping Car (6 double bedroom buffet) St. Louis-New York.
Sleeping Cars
10 roomette/6 double bedroom; 14 sections St. Louis-New York
10 roomette/6 double bedroom 14 sections St. Louis-Boston (in train 78 from Cleveland)
10 section/1 drawing room/compartment St. Louis-Phoebus, VA (Ft. Monroe) via NYC 416 from Indianapolis, C&O 42 from Cincinnati
10 roomette/6 double bedroom; 4 compartment/4double bedroom/2 drawing room Cleveland-New York (Sat. only)
Dining Car St. Louis-Buffalo
Buffet breakfast service to New York
Coaches St. Louis-New York; Boston; Cincinnati
Interesting to see that there was a combination of hw and lw cars and lots of interline switching as well.
Work safe
Wednesday's Witticism
A gentle horse is soon curried.
Mid-week, mid-month in mid-continent USA means we've arrived at Hump Day for the work week! Begin the day with us by ordering a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board - fill up the coffee mugs ‘n check out The Mentor Village Bakery case for those freshly baked goodies! <ummmmmmmm>
Comments from the Proprietor
Tuesday - August 19th <all times Central daylite>:
Page 9 - Rob <trolleyboy> at 9:36 PM ‘n 9:51 PM: Our Manager provided a two-fer for the gang, which of course juiced up the joint on a quiet Tuesday nite!
Yes, some things one remembers - ‘n when it came to 327, Heather definitely expressed her feelings - I could tell it was most special to her. Perhaps next time, she'll be the operator ‘n we can enjoy the experience!
Notch six at 25 mph - does that infer the gradients are about 4 mph each
Aroma therapy candles <yikes> Methinks that tonic would unclog the nasal passages of a T-Rex! <triple yikes> But Queenie was YOUR GAL, ‘n if anyone would know - YOU surely would! <grin>
I really don't know whether those RDC parts in the TRE facility's storage bins were purchased or just came with the acquisition of the cars OR were cannibalized from units that saw better days. Don't know . . .
Yes, yes - Ruth probably was frightened off as a result of one of those "sessions" you've had regarding our Bar Chandler ‘n his most irregular weekend schedule. Hmmmmmm. Poor gal . . . very sensitive. Perhaps she needs a HUG! <uh oh>
Nice restoration fotos - those kinds of things tell a story of their own, eh
Thanx for the visits, chat, fotos ‘n ROUND!
Wednesday - August 20th:
Page 9 - Eric <EricX2000> at 12:51 AM <10:51 PM Tuesday Sandbox time>: Many thanx for the visit - whether a quick one or normal, it's always a pleasure having our Sandman aboard!
Noticed that your Rendezvous III plaque may need a minor adjustment. The roofline of "Our" Place in the foto appears to be rather high. Just tap the foto a bit <from the top> ‘n it should slide down a bit. Really nice to see them displayed so prominently!
Thanx for squeezing in the time to visit with us!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
No Leon, just a cold Keith's, please! Can't stay long tonight.
Sorry to be in such a rush, but I am getting short on time to get everything done before I leave on Friday morning. So I have to pass tonight, but will be back tomorrow evening with an inclusive post.
Just read your comment Tom and here is another photo from my den where you can see the two Rendezvous plaques above the door. The picture between the plaques is something I painted (watercolor) in 1956, 13 years old. It shows the house where I spent most of my childhood. It is still standing, looks very much the same, and I will go there during my visit in the old country.
So Leon since we are all still here how about another Keith's I need to try another to make sure I do like it.
I figured that I'd pop back in with a few more photo's,museum stuff again.As Shane had mentioned this morning 327 is a small ten bench open car with a single truck.We do have one double trucked open car similar to the Conn one's he mentioned. Both types were common on the Canadian street railways as well , but few people had the foresight to preserve them so ours is the only canadian one that's still around .
Some shots of the restoration of London Street Railway #23
Good evening Leon , a nice day today lots of rounds bought and some good info out there. So I'll pop for a round and a nice cold Keith's for myself. I might as well "try" it.
Tom-I've heard from a reliable sorce up in the villiage ( Lance ,Vito's manicurist/hair stylest ) that the glow we've been seeing is Queenie's aroma therapy candles. Apparently made from a family mixture consisting turpintine,clove oil,skunk extract and a lot of rose water.All bonded with creosote.
Nice info on The NYC and more fine pictures from your day in Dallas. I'm guessing that TRE bought the load of parts you saw when they purchased the RDC's from VIA.It is amazing how well those old cars can hold up if they are properly maintained by those who give a rat's patoot.
I don't know why Ruth was affraid to ask , I'd never say no to her requests.She must have heard the disscussions with the Chandler on his every other weekend off requests.I just hope we get some work out of Cindy,with you hovering about when she's here it can get awkward Still if she's noty a hired hand then maybe she's a hired "leg"
Yes 327 is Heather's baby. She's as possesive of it , as you are of Cindy
Dan-A fine catch up and more wonderfull websites for me to explore.Actually Heather will really like them as she's the plane buff It does indeed look like it was a fine trip,with lots to see and do.
Pete-A smart man pays Vito's bills with no questions asked.I see that he cancelled the extra large order of Cement form the plant, and has instead gone with their normal monthly order of one ton of sacked concrete.
I've heard that a lot of those ram bowed ships tended to ride rough.remebering too that both those cruisers were on the cat C reserve ( activation in wartime only ) lists of the Royal Navy before we were generously sold them.Seems to be a pattern there.
When 327 was back in Toronto she only ran on the parade route which ran a nice slow pace of 25 miles an hour,which was notch six of eight on 327 !
Shane-Ahh so the nasty stuff awaits, sounds like a good couple of days to take your crews out on some on the sight tours etc.Sounds like they might as well be using mercury for the roofing material.
If we get out to Cass I'll definatly let you know
Eric-Niether of those ships survved beyond the 1920's. They were replaced by six minesweepers an two old ex RN destroyers,until the Canadian government built the first six new destroyers for the navy in the early 30's . Very few ships of that vintage survive anywhere in the world. I can only think of a handfull. The cruiser USS Olympia in Philly , the Imperial Russian Cruiser Aurora in St Petersburg Russia , the Japanease Battleship Fuji, I can't think of any others.
An evening appearance in order to catch up . . .
Page 9 - CM3 Shane <coalminer3> at 9:02 AM: Straining the few remaining functioning brain cells to figure out why petrol prices are 50 cents higher where you are than here in mid-continent USA. Hmmmmm. No, no - PU-LEEZE don't try to explain! <yikes>
Email received ‘n responded to - thanx!
Glad you're enjoying my 2005 Dallas Rail Adventure fotos . . . Too bad we don't have a "connection" in Dallas, for it would be a fine place for a Rendezvous - although when I was there in was hotter ‘n the shades of Hades. <phew> Hopefully, the month of May would be more tolerable . . . Anyway, Rendezvous IV in WVA ought to be most comfortable with the temps . . .
Mention of the Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match III brings to mind that once Sir Moderation returns from the UK, we'll be getting ready for that event again . . . Probably will get it organized before he departs . . . better safe than sorry, eh
Boat racing in New England - ahhhhhh, the games of the rich ‘n famous, Used to watch ‘em occasionally in the Charles River . . . always thought it would be far better to have a "drum beater" aboard, attired in a furry animal skin with a Viking helmet, of course! <grin>
So, who put the PCBs into the GG1s in the first place Who put the Ram in the Ram-a-lang-a-ding-dong Tar ‘n feather the rascals - keel haul ‘em - walk the plank! <arrrrggggghhhhh> <grin> Probably a conspiracy brought upon by . . . nah, couldn't be - "He" wasn't in office then. <yikes>
Quarters, ROUND ‘n most inclusive offering very much appreciated!
Page 9 - Dan <DL-UK> at 12:17 PM <7:17 PM GMT>: Looks like a valiant effort to catch up from our Resident Brit in Sherwood Forest!
Wellington is a common reference to boots over here as well . . .
Free anything is a luxury aboard U.S. domestic flights these days <daze> . . . in fact the PC peanut crowd has pretty much frightened the daylites outta most people because of perhaps one in a zillion having an allergic reaction aboard an aircraft to them. So, now it's some concoction in a 1/8th ounce package resembling the bottom remnants of a Trail Mix . . . IF you're in 1st class that is! <arrrrggggghhhhh>
Arrange for a ride up in the cab of those DEMUs ‘n I'll figure out a way to get over to Sherwood Forest! Nice link - thanx!
Checked out those Fradley Canal shots too!
The links to the Paris train palaces are super-fine ‘n appreciated!
And finally, the RAF links are always a trip back to when the world was in a most dangerous position. Wonder what's changed, eh Different people with different MoSheens, but in some cases, the objectives seem to be similar.
Guess I'm way behind the curve, for I'm in the dark regarding the "famous" Train Blue Bar . . . <grin>
Sounds as if your weekend aboard EuroStar ‘n time in Paris worked out to your satisfaction. Many thanx for providing us with some insights ‘n links!
Appreciate the visit, informative chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 9 - Pete <pwolfe> at 4:55 PM: Now, now - Ruth surely doesn't get MORE time off than you. Good Gawd Gertie, are you serious I mean are you SERIOUS <triple geesh> I surely hope you're not smoking that "funny stuff." <yikes>
So, you've encountered Queenie's "bedside manner" on Vito's Customer Disservice Line, eh She sure puts the X in explicit! <uh oh>
By all means HAVE a Bathams "for" me - but just don't TRY it! <grin>
The Royal Hudson we saw on that OmniMax presentation was along the CP route . . . we really must make a return trip to ExpoRail ‘n plan a Chaleur round trip in conjuction with it!
I'll probably not have an experience to match that of the TRE RDCs down in Dallas in 2005. Just a terrific thing for Mr. Watkins to put together . . . he really would've fit in well with the group at all of our Rendezvous crew! A shame he's gone-zo . . . Perhaps you are correct regarding the view from the cab, but I'll take a dome any time any where! But having said that, I must admit - just standing there watching the right-of-way seemingly "coming at you" is something else indeed!
Surely wasn't any problem traversing the distance between New York City ‘n St. Louis by rail - back in the day. I'd be aboard the Pennsy - the Jeffersonian lounge of course! <grin> Although I'd probably have to "try" the NY Central too!
Many thanx for the always inclusive comments, good cheer ‘n ROUND!
A pint of Holden's Glow please RUTH.
ALLAN Yes I am pretty good at remembering numbers but have trouble with names, ask the bride. I can recall my check numbers from work right back to the day I started.
Yes the old Co-Op bike kept me fit, no gears and with a load of groceries in the basket you knew about it. I had a major tyre blow out on it once, a lad I knew was across the street and he jumped about 6 foot in the air when it went which made me laugh, I did not laugh long though, for about a week I had to deliver by sack barrow. The bike had to go to the Co-Op repair shop; if I had known I would have fixed it myself.
That coach did have an interesting history and I did not know that the Gateshead Tramcar No.10 worked on the Grimsby and Immingham tramway, that was owned by the Great Central and lasted in to BR days.
ROB Thanks for the kind words on the photos and I hoped you would like the link to the Tramcars. What speed was No.327 allowed to get to on her return to the streets of Toronto.
It is strange, but just by the look; Niobe looks not a ship to be in with rough seas to me.
Thought it best to pay up for the MVG subscription although not seeing a copy yet, mind you VITO has promised my ‘Mid-Missouri Cricket Monthly' will arrive as soon two teams get together and play a match.
ERIC As I said to Rob I have decided to pay VITO.
As you say it would take a great deal of money to get a Big Boy running again but the publicity it would generate would be immense and I bet all the railtours it ran would be sold out.
Yes although the coach was built in 1903, I bet the first coach of that design was built some years earlier.
Many thanks for the photos, your study looks very tidy, I seem to recognize the scanner and noticed the two different times on the clocks.
CM3 Thanks for the info on the Pennsy Broadway in steam days.
Thinking about it, I am surprised I have not seen an article in one of the British railway magazines about the services ran for the miners on the NCB railways. I believe the NCB had a very large system in the North East of England and I am sure other areas must have had large systems as well. Quite a few unique locomotives and cars survived for preservation as they had long lives on the colliery railways after they had been bought from the main line companies.
DL Yes we will have to check out a few West Midland brews, The Holden's Mild is a great drink to have first and perhaps a visit to Sarah Hughes Beacon Hotel in Sedgley for a Ruby Mild and old English Mild of about 6% strength though.
http://www.quaffale.org.uk/php/brewery/491
I still can't find my notes for the Ashford open day yet but if old memory serves I think the locomotives and the DEMUs were being overhauled at Eastleigh works at the time and I think the Hasting units had been withdrawn at the time of my visit. I did get a ride in them on one of my early railrover days from Hastings to London. It is great to see, in the link, that the preserved Hasting units have been on passenger service on the Ashford to Hastings line.
Many thanks for the link to the Fradley Canal Junction. The Oxford Canal, that passed my old home, connected to the Coventry Canal and as a kid in the 1950s and early 60s there was a lot of coal traffic on the canal.
It was interesting that having got slightly lost you came across RAF Lichfield it is good to see that unfortunate aircraft crew commemorated in the street names today.
Really enjoyed the second part of your visit and links to the Paris stations. It sounds Gare D' Austerlitz is a real gem with all loco hauled trains and a busy night scene. It does seem the station will not be the same if those High Speed Services are added to the station.
TOM Good photo of No.327. It seems Ruth gets more holidays than I do.
I think it may well be Queenie who is manning Vito's ‘Customer' advice line; most of her advice is not physically possible anyway..
It will be good to see DL while I am in the old land we will certainly have a Bathams or two for you.
Know exactly what you mean about the lockdown.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and the links. I bet the number of people carried by that 1903 coach in its day would be amazing.
On the bike you had, did the basket on the front stay straight when the front wheel was turned it took some getting used to at first.
Thinking about the Super Continental, I was trying to remember on whether it was the CN or the CP route that Hudson was on in that great film we saw at the I-Max cinema at Exporail.
I guess we ought to hold a benefit night at the bar for poor old Charlie
Many thanks for those great photos from the cab of RDC # 2011 in Dallas. It is a view that a lot most people never get to see even a dome car can not give the perspective that is seen from the cab.
Enjoyed the Fallen Flag on the NYC. It seems as although not as many electric locomotives as the PRR the NYC still had 65 of them in 1963. I noticed the two named trains that served the New York St Louis route. The Pacemaker drumhead has a1930s style about it I liked..
Well RUTH I had better get a round as I am running a bit late and LEON will be in soon.
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