Classic Railroad Quiz (at least 50 years old).

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 6:37 AM

From the notes in the book it seems that it was most likely two separate Pullman "lines" served by one set of cars with Roanoke as the dividing point.  In later years there was enough of a gap between the Shenandoah and Winston-Salem trains to allow for servicing the car at Roanoke.  The Winston-Salem connection carried a Columbus Ohio Pullman car into at least 1957.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:10 AM

Yes, the Winston-Salem-Midwest car lasted for many years; sometimes it served Columbus, sometimes it served Cincinnati.

I really wonder how many through passengers rode the NYC to Jacksonville car, and how many rode the Jacksonville to Roanoke car.

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Posted by rcdrye on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 10:59 AM

This train's introduction on a speeded-up schedule in 1967 made headlines as one of the few bright spots in that year, especially considering that its route had been a secondary on for its owner.  The major competition on the route was better known, and the new train had a run that was a bit longer between the endpoints.

The competing railroad was ducked under and met at a Union Station on the way.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:22 AM

I'm going to say that the train is the GTW "Mohawk" on a Chicago-Detroit route.  NYC was the major competition.

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Posted by rcdrye on Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:29 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I'm going to say that the train is the GTW "Mohawk" on a Chicago-Detroit route.  NYC was the major competition.

 

The Mohawk was pretty much the last gasp for CN in upgraded services, though it maintained its Canadian services fairly well until the advent of VIA.  The Mohawk ran between Dearborn Street in Chicago and Brush Street station in Detroit, ducking under the New York Central just outside of Dearborn.  Now that I think about it GTW's sharing of South Bend Union Station with New York Central didn't involve the MC line at all, and MC and GTW used different stations in Battle Creek. Before the Mohawk most of GTW's Detroit service had been handled by connections at Durand to and from Toronto-bound trains.

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:15 PM

Having used the Central's Chi-Det service often, as well as changing trains at Deland on the GTW (because it was sometimes easier for relatives to drive to Birmingham than the Michigan Central Station, although if I were to use public transportation in Detroit, then MC station was better), and then switching to The Mowhawk for all trips when possible between these points, I can state that the reason for the Mowhawk was the downgrading of the Central's trains.  They removed the diners and possibly the parlors and had only a snack-bar coach.  And the cheese sandwches where just a bit above unedible.  The Mowhawk was great.  I think I rode it about six times.  The GTW passenger people saw and opportunity and moved in.

Even before being reassiged from the Cambridge, MA, office of BBN to Downders Grove, I often did work on Chicqgo office (Downers Grove office) projects, and occasionallly would go via Detroit to visit relatives on a short stop-over.  And also visited weekends when working in La Grange summer of 1952. 

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Posted by rcdrye on Friday, January 05, 2018 12:34 PM

Paul (CSSHegewisch): You're up!

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 05, 2018 1:23 PM

While you're at it: bump the other quiz thread and ask a new question. 

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