Do you think is a explosion?
It looks more like a wreck that might have caught fire in the engine compartment. Sad picture.
http://www.locophotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=98997
Not really ugly, just needs a paint job, which I suspect UP didn't give it since they just threw a herald on so fast.
This one was in the most recent Classic Trains, built by Ingalls Shipyard in Miss.
>>built by Ingalls Shipyard in Miss.<<
????? Still looking for the locomotive. And why are there all those wheels along the bottom of that submarine?
I've seen that one before, it is odd looking. I think a lot of them back them were..Aerotrain anyone?
strikefour WARNING: WAIT 30 MINUTES AFTER EATING TO VIEW PHOTO. i did some searching for and here it is: GE's BQ23-7 and CSX paint schemes didn't help it one bit. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=157557&nseq=1
WARNING: WAIT 30 MINUTES AFTER EATING TO VIEW PHOTO.
i did some searching for and here it is: GE's BQ23-7
and CSX paint schemes didn't help it one bit.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=157557&nseq=1
- Luke
Modeling the Southern Pacific in the 1960's-1980's
Yeah, we've discussed these before. A B23-7 with an early "Quarters" (Thus the Q) cab, unique if not kinda ugly. I have an HO model of one, and have seen a real one turned into a B unit.
hf1001 hf1001 wrote: Although this locomotive looks cool, I think it still falls under the ugly catagory. Can anyone find a cab photo of a B23-7 ?
hf1001 wrote: Although this locomotive looks cool, I think it still falls under the ugly catagory.
Although this locomotive looks cool, I think it still falls under the ugly catagory.
Can anyone find a cab photo of a B23-7 ?
They use this locomotive to house the cabosse staff?
Awesome!
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Awesome! hf1001 hf1001 wrote: Although this locomotive looks cool, I think it still falls under the ugly catagory. Can anyone find a cab photo of a B23-7 ?hf1001 hf1001 wrote: Although this locomotive looks cool, I think it still falls under the ugly catagory. Can anyone find a cab photo of a B23-7 ? They use this locomotive to house the cabosse staff?
Remember this thread?
http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/t/158245.aspx?PageIndex=2
Stoop Davy Dave >>built by Ingalls Shipyard in Miss.<< ????? Still looking for the locomotive. And why are there all those wheels along the bottom of that submarine?
Here is a link with some history on the Ingalls Shi[building Locomotive, S-4, powered by a Superior Diesel Engine: http://www.geocities.com/wbd641/SuperiorDiesels2.html
Here is another link with some interesting information from the GM&O service life of Ingall's S-4 #1900. ( as furnished by the GM&O historical Society) :
http://www.pcrnmra.org/coast/contest/contest_sep_2006_ingalls_diesel_info.shtml
I take issue with a seqment of the link's statement, based on some personal experience...For a time towards the end of its career, the #1900 was based at the GM&O Jackson ,Tn Shops.
Where #1900 was kind of the house pet ( much as was the Santa Fe's Switcher, called "THE BEEP"),#1900 occasionaly was worked south to the the Yard at Corinth, Ms. In 66 and 67; and worked there, as well as Jackson, Tn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czF7n0umETo&feature=sub
carnej1Awesome! That's a GE locomotive built for China Railways, IINM..either an ES44AC variation or one of the new 6000 HP units..
That is, indeed, a GEVO variant. GE has dubbed it the ES59ACi, while China Railways calls it the HXN5. It has the largest, most powerful GEVO engine to-date, the GEVO-16. It puts out a whopping 6,250 horsepower. God, I'd love to have some of those in America. If they did use them in America, I hope they just keep the China Railways paint scheme. I daresay Union Pacific's paint scheme wouldn't do it much justice. I'm also disappointed that this even showed up on this thread. I think it's beautiful, but that's just me. Trust me, in the China Railways paint scheme, they just look flat-out epic.
fafnir242 carnej1 Awesome! That's a GE locomotive built for China Railways, IINM..either an ES44AC variation or one of the new 6000 HP units.. That is, indeed, a GEVO variant. GE has dubbed it the ES59ACi, while China Railways calls it the HXN5. It has the largest, most powerful GEVO engine to-date, the GEVO-16. It puts out a whopping 6,250 horsepower. God, I'd love to have some of those in America. If they did use them in America, I hope they just keep the China Railways paint scheme. I daresay Union Pacific's paint scheme wouldn't do it much justice. I'm also disappointed that this even showed up on this thread. I think it's beautiful, but that's just me. Trust me, in the China Railways paint scheme, they just look flat-out epic.
carnej1 Awesome! That's a GE locomotive built for China Railways, IINM..either an ES44AC variation or one of the new 6000 HP units..
Actually the ES59i's being built for (and soon, in) China are rated at 5,900HP for traction. I believe the new GEVO units being built for a Brazilian customer are the same, although the Brazilian units use the AC6000 Cab and frame. The extra 350 HP is needed to run the auxiliaries..
While wandering around on the Internet, I stumbled acrpss the "HOLEMAN HORROR".
Apparently, a product first, of the Holeman Locomotive Co. of Philadelphia; then a second product by Baldwin Locomotive at Eddystone.
. Not only did they build one of these they reproduced a second one, for what ever reason .
Sure qualifies in my book for Ugly, and or a Strange critter..
Follow this link to see it: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/holman/holman.htm
trainfan1221 fafnir242 wrote: It's a BQ23-7. I'm pretty sure only about 17 were made, I could be wrong. It's basically a variation of the B23-7.And yet Bachmann produced an HO version of this engine. But not a normal one. I miss Conrail too, but the original scheme, not the Conrail Quality stuff.
fafnir242 wrote: It's a BQ23-7. I'm pretty sure only about 17 were made, I could be wrong. It's basically a variation of the B23-7.
I miss Conrail too, but the original scheme, not the Conrail Quality stuff.
I know this is old, but Bachmann also produced a model of the GE U36B wearing Santa Fe warbonnet colors back in the 80s!
I didn't read all of the posts on this thread (there are a lot of them, and it's late). But let me humbly suggest as grand prize winner for ugliest" locomotives the "Crandal Cab" locomotives once used by C&NW for commuter service. For those fortunate enough to not be familiar with these monstrosities, they were originally 'B' units to which C&NW added makeshift cabs. The cab was strictly functional, and didn't match the rest of the unit, The driving force behind the design (if it can be dignified with that term) appears to have been to use flat sheets of steel as much as possible. Unfortunately, I don't have a picture (now that I think about it, that's probably fortunate)
Falcon48 The driving force behind the design (if it can be dignified with that term) appears to have been to use flat sheets of steel as much as possible.
The driving force behind the design (if it can be dignified with that term) appears to have been to use flat sheets of steel as much as possible.
This seems to encompass nearly all North American diesel locomotives with the exception of EMD E & F units and GP30, Alco PA & FA, Baldwin Sharksnosed diesels and Amtrak Genesis diesels and Acela's....
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To me, this is downright ugly.
marcimmeker Falcon48 The driving force behind the design (if it can be dignified with that term) appears to have been to use flat sheets of steel as much as possible. This seems to encompass nearly all North American diesel locomotives with the exception of EMD E & F units and GP30, Alco PA & FA, Baldwin Sharksnosed diesels and Amtrak Genesis diesels and Acela's....
Look again at the Alco flatnose (all 3 versions) and the Baldwin Sharks. There is a fair amount of flat sheet steel in the nose design with a lot less compound curves than in the EMD bulldog nose. Note especially the wraparound sheet steel on the Alcos. It was a much easier and cheaper design to construct than the bulldog nose.
CSSHEGEWISCH marcimmeker Falcon48 The driving force behind the design (if it can be dignified with that term) appears to have been to use flat sheets of steel as much as possible. This seems to encompass nearly all North American diesel locomotives with the exception of EMD E & F units and GP30, Alco PA & FA, Baldwin Sharksnosed diesels and Amtrak Genesis diesels and Acela's.... Look again at the Alco flatnose (all 3 versions) and the Baldwin Sharks. There is a fair amount of flat sheet steel in the nose design with a lot less compound curves than in the EMD bulldog nose. Note especially the wraparound sheet steel on the Alcos. It was a much easier and cheaper design to construct than the bulldog nose.
It may be that lots of other locos were designed to maximize use of flat steel sheets. But they were designed that way and, as such, had a certain amount of design cohesiveness. A Crandal cab unit consisted of a cab made from flat sheets cut into a F "B" unit, which had rounded features. The combination did not win any industrial design awards.
I wonder sometimes why the US Railroad won't adapt the European Locomotive?
silicon212 trainfan1221 fafnir242 wrote: It's a BQ23-7. I'm pretty sure only about 17 were made, I could be wrong. It's basically a variation of the B23-7.And yet Bachmann produced an HO version of this engine. But not a normal one. I miss Conrail too, but the original scheme, not the Conrail Quality stuff. I know this is old, but Bachmann also produced a model of the GE U36B wearing Santa Fe warbonnet colors back in the 80s!
That's true. I still have one I bought as a kid. Back then it was common practice for model manufacturers to offer diesels in the paint scheme of popular railroads rather than the ones that actually rostered the particular model. Little effort seemed to be made to match the prototype. This led to things like DD35A's in PRR colors and high nosed Alco Centuries painted and lettered for ATSF................
Awesome! I wonder sometimes why the US Railroad won't adapt the European Locomotive?
The US has different safety standards for locomotive cabs than Europe does. In addition, much of Europe has tighter clearances than North America and as a result their locomotives tend to be smaller (and less powerful)..
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