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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:13 PM

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CP was talking about having heritage units back in the 1990s. One was supposed to be D&H, but it seems they only have heritage locomotives with the old CPR scheme around.

They do keep at least one unit still painted in the D&H lightning scheme.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:06 PM

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I say CN should do a WC painted SD70M-2 and give it the lightning stripe like the OLS SD45s have. I also think a orange and black IC painted SD70M-2 would look pretty nice. Lets not forget DM&IR and B&LE. A maroon and gold DM&IR painted SD70M-2 would look pretty nice. Concerning NS, lets not forget they bought the former RailCruise America Fs and are planning to repaint them into Southern colors. I don't really know what paint schemes would be good for GTW and DWP heritage engines since their paint schemes are almost exactly alike.

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Posted by EJE818 on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:14 AM
I say CN should do a WC painted SD70M-2 and give it the lightning stripe like the OLS SD45s have. I also think a orange and black IC painted SD70M-2 would look pretty nice. Lets not forget DM&IR and B&LE. A maroon and gold DM&IR painted SD70M-2 would look pretty nice. Concerning NS, lets not forget they bought the former RailCruise America Fs and are planning to repaint them into Southern colors. I don't really know what paint schemes would be good for GTW and DWP heritage engines since their paint schemes are almost exactly alike.
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Posted by Datafever on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:52 AM

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Thanks! Now 2 railroads have heritage units.Smile [:)] Did Norfolk southern paint it that way or did they just not RE paint it?

It is my understanding that 4610 wore standard NS colors from the time it was built in '89 until it was repainted with the current scheme in 1994 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Southern Railway. 

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:07 AM

That is a Commmemorative Paint Scheme on an EMD built GP59 in the late 1980's commissioned by Norfolk Southern to honor a long time employee. I forgot his name.

The Canadian National could have one of their new locomotives painted or decaled with four logos on the long hood:    CN    CV    GT   DWP 

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Posted by KBCpresident on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:06 PM
Thanks! Now 2 railroads have heritage units.Smile [:)] Did Norfolk southern paint it that way or did they just not RE paint it?

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Posted by Datafever on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:59 AM

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I agree. One question though... whats 4610?

NS 4610 is a colorful commemorative "Southern" paint scheme as seen here

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Posted by KBCpresident on Monday, December 25, 2006 6:21 PM
I agree. One question though... whats 4610?

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Posted by EJE818 on Monday, December 25, 2006 6:14 PM
I don't know if these are considered heritage engines, but CN does have the IC E9s. Personally, I'd like it if they got the old orange and black passenger colors, but they are fine the way they are. Hopefully they don't repaint them into the same scheme the other E9s wear. I doubt CN is doing to do any heritage engines. At least we got the UP heritage engines and NS will soon have Southern painted Fs plus 4610. It would be nice if every class one did heritage engines, especially CN.
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Posted by KBCpresident on Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:46 PM
OH GET A LIFE. I think that railfanespee4449's heritage units look great. If only we could somehow get CN to actually paint ANY locos in the said paint schemes.Sigh [sigh]

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:18 AM

One or the other, please, especially on the GT unit.  The UP messed it all up.

There are still a few ex-MILW units around, still patched.  The 20-year old black paint is starting to wash off.  CP was thinking about redoing a GP40 back into MILW colors.  Nothing ever came of it.  Darn shame.Angry [:(!]

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:24 PM

The concept for the Grand Trunk Western Scheme is great start.

Try seperating the Olive Green and the Blue with a graphic shape in yellow to add a visual dynamic, similar to the seperating feather on the UP-WP Heritage unit.

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Posted by railfanespee4449 on Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:41 PM

Here goes- I hope I don't offend anyone

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Posted by wcfan4ever on Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:19 AM
Sad part about CN is...Don't look for them to do anything nice for anyone. Especially in Wisconsin where they treat you like crap. If you go to Illinois, they treat you real great. I however will never look for anything good from CN except for the few remaining WC units still running around not retired/scrapped yet.

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Posted by J. Edgar on Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:32 PM

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Heritage units? Just put a GT noodle and a CV noodle on some CN units they got. Voila, heritage units.

 

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Posted by TH&B on Saturday, December 9, 2006 4:25 PM
Heritage units? Just put a GT noodle and a CV noodle on some CN units they got. Voila, heritage units.
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Posted by PBenham on Saturday, December 9, 2006 3:53 PM

Why stop at the CN family scheme GM styling group created for GTWs F3s? There's the original DM&IR maroon scheme, BCRail, and Pacific Great Eastern's schemes. PGE started out with yellow(?) with red striping early, prior to adopting the green it used for twenty years.

The Newfoundland Railway (3'6") had a very basic black on its only Diesel, reputed to be ex-US Army. Does anyone have 411 on it? Do I have to dive into the stack of boxes and find the ancient X2200 Newfoundland roster, or the GE/Whitcomb (and others) narrow gauge unit listings. Sigh [sigh] Perhaps when I'm off for the holidays, I'll take the plunge.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Saturday, December 9, 2006 2:28 PM

The CN/GTW/CV/DW&P 1950's Scheme on Locomotive models built by EMD and MotivePower unit is a way to make the first Heritage Units.

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Posted by J. Edgar on Friday, December 8, 2006 9:25 PM
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The only former railroads under the CN banner that would seriously qualify for Heritage Units are Central Vermont, Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific, and Gulf, Mobile & Ohio.

 

???    CN has been around over 100 years........they just retired the oldest continuly operated electric units here a coupla years ago..................theres their classic f unit paint jobs..............yea i think the CN its self qualifies........

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Posted by coborn35 on Friday, December 8, 2006 9:25 PM
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Everybody, 

What are you suggesting?

SD70M-2 units in the Central Vermont 1970's, Duluth, Winnepeg & Pacific, and Gulf, Mobile & Ohio Schemes?

ES44DC units in the Illinois Central 1960's and British Columbia Railway 1970's schemes?

That is the only thing I can imagine for Canadian National Heritage Units.

Please, be even more descriptive. 

Andrew

Someone would die if CN painted an SD70M-2 in DWP and IC schemes. I garuntee it.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Friday, December 8, 2006 9:19 PM
I agree. I read in some of the other forums, that this  was an adult envirment, and I CERTAINLY don't want to IntrudeCool [8D]Wink [;)]!

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Friday, December 8, 2006 8:15 PM
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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:04 PM

Everybody, 

What are you suggesting?

SD70M-2 units in the Central Vermont 1970's, Duluth, Winnepeg & Pacific, and Gulf, Mobile & Ohio Schemes?

ES44DC units in the Illinois Central 1960's and British Columbia Railway 1970's schemes?

That is the only thing I can imagine for Canadian National Heritage Units.

Please, be even more descriptive. 

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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:36 PM
 KBCpresident wrote:
 tree68 wrote:

And just for the record, HTML tags don't work here.  Forum code resembles it, but uses [].

As for the heritage unit idea, methinks you'd have to go back a ways to find more than has been mentioned.

On the other hand, CSX and NS might have some interesting subjects to choose from.  There's still a lot of BNSF predecessor stuff still on the rails.

I can think of the GTW, DM&IR, WC, GM&O, and CV.

Hey BNSF railfan, what happened to your post titled "."Smile [:)]

The only thing abut that, there are still alot of DMIR and WC units running around.

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Posted by TH&B on Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:29 AM

CN should do heritage units, and they should be Grand Trunk Railroad- Canadian Northern Railway- National Transontinental Railway and Intercolonial Railways. Of course these engines were mostly steam engines in black and some electric engines, also in black. But it's the real CN heritage. hehehe

I like the idea of CPR doing a D&H- a MILW- a SOO and a TH&B as heritage units, but paint them as they were as close to possible even if it is on new big units.

 The only UP heritage unit I liked was the CNW.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:31 PM
 tree68 wrote:

And just for the record, HTML tags don't work here.  Forum code resembles it, but uses [].

As for the heritage unit idea, methinks you'd have to go back a ways to find more than has been mentioned.

On the other hand, CSX and NS might have some interesting subjects to choose from.  There's still a lot of BNSF predecessor stuff still on the rails.

I can think of the GTW, DM&IR, WC, GM&O, and CV.

Hey BNSF railfan, what happened to your post titled "."Smile [:)]

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Posted by KBCpresident on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:22 PM
That's reassuuring!Blush [:I]...So you wouldn't kick me me in the rear if I told you I was 14years old, and already a train freak. Wink [;)]

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:34 PM
To answer part of your question, this has been brought up many times and there are people of all ages here.  Anyone under 21 I would leave to their discretion if they wish to disclose who they are.  And for my next question..is that new guy really gonna use the name "Poop"?
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Posted by KBCpresident on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:22 PM
 tatans wrote:
What heritage? Canadian or American ? ? Remember Canadian National Railway was a Government of Canada run institution for years( a little bit of good old Canadian socialism) so what heritage would these locomotives represent? Oh, do you mean not CN but one of the American owned railroads CN bought, that makes sense. Interesting to find out if CN is a good corporate citizen eh?
Both.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:24 AM
CP was talking about having heritage units back in the 1990s. One was supposed to be D&H, but it seems they only have heritage locomotives with the old CPR scheme around.
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