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[CG9602]

QUOTE:

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

A few minor points here, Mookie:
1. Amtrak didn't exist in 1969. It makes no sense to blame an organization that didn't exist before 1970 for something that took place earlier.
2. taking 22 - 24 hours to get someplace is what happens when the service is cut to the bone and then more - The MILW had less than a handful of trains going via WI in 1969 ( only one going to Madison), and so did the CBQ. The CNW had a very small handful of trains remaining in WI, and even they were seasonal only.
3. Amtrak has never had the money to provide really good service. They have had to fight just to get money to run even one train per day across WI. Unlike many other industries, they've never had "money with which to make money."
4. I look at my train trips as an integral part of the vacation - not just as a means to get to a vacation spot.

I have no desire to spark off a flame war here - just pointing out some things.

[CG9602]

QUOTE:

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

A few minor points here, Mookie:
1. Amtrak didn't exist in 1969. It makes no sense to blame an organization that didn't exist before 1970 for something that took place earlier.
2. taking 22 - 24 hours to get someplace is what happens when the service is cut to the bone and then more - The MILW had less than a handful of trains going via WI in 1969 ( only one going to Madison), and so did the CBQ. The CNW had a very small handful of trains remaining in WI, and even they were seasonal only.
3. Amtrak has never had the money to provide really good service. They have had to fight just to get money to run even one train per day across WI. Unlike many other industries, they've never had "money with which to make money."
4. I look at my train trips as an integral part of the vacation - not just as a means to get to a vacation spot.

I have no desire to spark off a flame war here - just pointing out some things.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....Jen, I would rather think it is not that they "don't seem to want to have me go"....The Amtrak organization now headed by Gunn does everything put plead and get down on their knees to find money to run a decent rail transportation system in this county from Congress and this Adminstration...with little success...! I suppose we can expect the same kind of perforance you have described to continue until the powers to be who control the purse strings [and continue to give their share to other types of transport], change the way they think...or that the public 'hollers' loud enough to change it...and I doubt if that will happen....Kinda sad, that we the best and the biggest [for the most part], are running a rail passenger system worthy of a 3rd rate country. I'll retire from my soap box and go and sit down now.......but I mean every word of it. And I'm not afraid to pay my fair share to help run the system correctly.

I agree - and I realize we aren't the biggest population in the US. Probably not that many people ride the train - but I for one would love to do so. I compared the prices and really - for not a lot of difference - I can fly and be there in a couple of hours as compared to Amtrak - many hours. I am sure - as do the airlines - the train serves people in much bigger population areas and tailors the time schedule to serve them. But it would be nice to have just a little more consideration. And at a rate we "little" people can afford. Now, they keep us strapped with paying our health insurance - so no travel allowed! Ah - another soap box to stand on!

Jen

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....Jen, I would rather think it is not that they "don't seem to want to have me go"....The Amtrak organization now headed by Gunn does everything put plead and get down on their knees to find money to run a decent rail transportation system in this county from Congress and this Adminstration...with little success...! I suppose we can expect the same kind of perforance you have described to continue until the powers to be who control the purse strings [and continue to give their share to other types of transport], change the way they think...or that the public 'hollers' loud enough to change it...and I doubt if that will happen....Kinda sad, that we the best and the biggest [for the most part], are running a rail passenger system worthy of a 3rd rate country. I'll retire from my soap box and go and sit down now.......but I mean every word of it. And I'm not afraid to pay my fair share to help run the system correctly.

I agree - and I realize we aren't the biggest population in the US. Probably not that many people ride the train - but I for one would love to do so. I compared the prices and really - for not a lot of difference - I can fly and be there in a couple of hours as compared to Amtrak - many hours. I am sure - as do the airlines - the train serves people in much bigger population areas and tailors the time schedule to serve them. But it would be nice to have just a little more consideration. And at a rate we "little" people can afford. Now, they keep us strapped with paying our health insurance - so no travel allowed! Ah - another soap box to stand on!

Jen

[JoeKoh]

matt mamma and I would take it from bryan to chicago when matt gets older.
stay safe
Joe

[JoeKoh]

matt mamma and I would take it from bryan to chicago when matt gets older.
stay safe
Joe

[Modelcar]

....Jen, I would rather think it is not that they "don't seem to want to have me go"....The Amtrak organization now headed by Gunn does everything put plead and get down on their knees to find money to run a decent rail transportation system in this county from Congress and this Adminstration...with little success...! I suppose we can expect the same kind of perforance you have described to continue until the powers to be who control the purse strings [and continue to give their share to other types of transport], change the way they think...or that the public 'hollers' loud enough to change it...and I doubt if that will happen....Kinda sad, that we the best and the biggest [for the most part], are running a rail passenger system worthy of a 3rd rate country. I'll retire from my soap box and go and sit down now.......but I mean every word of it. And I'm not afraid to pay my fair share to help run the system correctly.

[Modelcar]

....Jen, I would rather think it is not that they "don't seem to want to have me go"....The Amtrak organization now headed by Gunn does everything put plead and get down on their knees to find money to run a decent rail transportation system in this county from Congress and this Adminstration...with little success...! I suppose we can expect the same kind of perforance you have described to continue until the powers to be who control the purse strings [and continue to give their share to other types of transport], change the way they think...or that the public 'hollers' loud enough to change it...and I doubt if that will happen....Kinda sad, that we the best and the biggest [for the most part], are running a rail passenger system worthy of a 3rd rate country. I'll retire from my soap box and go and sit down now.......but I mean every word of it. And I'm not afraid to pay my fair share to help run the system correctly.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.

Jim, I would love to go by Amtrak or any train for that matter. It is just they don't seem to want to have me go - at least not from here! Plus you only travel in the dark if you are going to say Colorado - What's to see in the dark, besides the backs of da Mooks eyelids!

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.

Jim, I would love to go by Amtrak or any train for that matter. It is just they don't seem to want to have me go - at least not from here! Plus you only travel in the dark if you are going to say Colorado - What's to see in the dark, besides the backs of da Mooks eyelids!

[Anonymous]

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.

[Anonymous]

Mookie [:p]

Never say never. [:o)]

You never know, things may change, you just might even change your mind for some reason and try it again.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[:X] Not a gonna happen here - if I rode Amtrak I would have to go down to the depot at Midnite and hope to catch it sometime before sunrise. You know the Mookie goes to bed at 8:30 pm and would be sound asleep in the depot pew as Amtrak went by! I either have to fly or move someplace where the transportation runs in the daytime!

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[:X] Not a gonna happen here - if I rode Amtrak I would have to go down to the depot at Midnite and hope to catch it sometime before sunrise. You know the Mookie goes to bed at 8:30 pm and would be sound asleep in the depot pew as Amtrak went by! I either have to fly or move someplace where the transportation runs in the daytime!

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.

Occassionally I check the Amtrak site to be how "our" train is doing. The other day it left Dallas 30 minutes late. By the time it arrived at Little Rock it was almost on time. Another time I checked it was 10 minutes early. And another time it was on time. You two be good. You might want to ride Amtrak one day and if you keep badmouthing them they might be late just for you.

I just check on the southbound from Little Rock to Dallas, it is 4 minutes late. Not to bad for a long distance train.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?



--Nora

[8D] Atta Girl!

Mookie

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?

[:p]

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule.

Don't you mean "one less hour late"?

[:p]

--Nora

[CG9602]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Puckdropper

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[:D] I was able to contact a friend, and so I was able to post the most accurate version in the Humor thread, puckdropper. I thought I'd post something here, becuase at the time, I thought that asking if the hand brake wheels are for steering, and the whole concept of joy-riding a car around the yards (unpowered, no less) was kind of stupid. However, those folks are out there - you might run into one of them when you're out railfanning.

[:p][:D][8D] Try to remain polite when confronted with their ignorance.

[CG9602]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Puckdropper

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[:D] I was able to contact a friend, and so I was able to post the most accurate version in the Humor thread, puckdropper. I thought I'd post something here, becuase at the time, I thought that asking if the hand brake wheels are for steering, and the whole concept of joy-riding a car around the yards (unpowered, no less) was kind of stupid. However, those folks are out there - you might run into one of them when you're out railfanning.

[:p][:D][8D] Try to remain polite when confronted with their ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Around 5 am I was walking Duchess and heard a train horn. I bagan thinking about our Amtrak train that comes in around 5 or so in the am hours. Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule. Now I doubt very much that they stop for an hour and kill time on the mainline. So how do they handle this oddity that occurs twice a year? The being early isn't to bad, but what about next spring when we set the clocks forward? How do they handle suddenly beging an hour late?

[Anonymous]

Around 5 am I was walking Duchess and heard a train horn. I bagan thinking about our Amtrak train that comes in around 5 or so in the am hours. Then the thought occured to me that we just had a time change and it made me wonder how the passenger railroads handle it when they are running a long distance train. Now it might not effect a freight train to much but what about a scheduled passenger train. Just like Sunday am they are suddenly an hour ahead of schedule. Now I doubt very much that they stop for an hour and kill time on the mainline. So how do they handle this oddity that occurs twice a year? The being early isn't to bad, but what about next spring when we set the clocks forward? How do they handle suddenly beging an hour late?

[Puckdropper]

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[Puckdropper]

If you do remember it or ask someone, post it in the humour thread... It's starting to get a little slow...

[CG9602]

Speaking of stupid or crazy questions . . .
The story that has been making the rounds of rail buffs here is WI goes something like this: When railfanning one paritcular location in S WI, a railfan was joined by an individual who had just stumbled out of the local bar. The bar patron askes the railfan if he ever went joyriding around the RR with one of the grain hoppers. The bar patron then makes statements to the effect that the brake tension wheels on the grain hoppers are in fact steering implements. The bar patron coninues to make these statements despite being corrected by the railfan. Said railfan points out that the wheels on the train cars aren't connected to any sort of steering mechanism, not in the same fashion that one steers an auto. The drunk then states something to the effect of "Really? You mean that you can't steer these things? It has a wheell, why not?" The drunk also makes statements to the effect of why the D*** trains can't get out of the way when they see a vehicle on the tracks. Railfan points out that when trains depart from the RR tracks, this is called a derailment, and is something undesireable for everyone involved.

I apologize that I'm unable to recall the precise story. Trust me, it was hilarious.[:D][:D]

[CG9602]

Speaking of stupid or crazy questions . . .
The story that has been making the rounds of rail buffs here is WI goes something like this: When railfanning one paritcular location in S WI, a railfan was joined by an individual who had just stumbled out of the local bar. The bar patron askes the railfan if he ever went joyriding around the RR with one of the grain hoppers. The bar patron then makes statements to the effect that the brake tension wheels on the grain hoppers are in fact steering implements. The bar patron coninues to make these statements despite being corrected by the railfan. Said railfan points out that the wheels on the train cars aren't connected to any sort of steering mechanism, not in the same fashion that one steers an auto. The drunk then states something to the effect of "Really? You mean that you can't steer these things? It has a wheell, why not?" The drunk also makes statements to the effect of why the D*** trains can't get out of the way when they see a vehicle on the tracks. Railfan points out that when trains depart from the RR tracks, this is called a derailment, and is something undesireable for everyone involved.

I apologize that I'm unable to recall the precise story. Trust me, it was hilarious.[:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

NORA [^] [:)] [:p] [8D] [^]

As far as I can tell you win the prize for the most popular forum thread going. YOUR thread is 17 pages and has over 4,347 views. Another popular thread is zardoz's humor thread with 9 pages and over 1420 views. Kevin's thread NOT for cowards has 11 pages and 2654 views. The GE vs. EMD battle continues (but should have read EMDs better then GE -- at least what most railroader say anyway) with 11 pages and 1924 views. I might get run over in the parking lot for including this one but the railroad crossing thread was 12 pages and had 1558 views but we won't add anymore personal comments about that one. It express opinions not necessarily in the majority of our minds. I just listed the ones that had an appeal to me, you probally could find several more with a fair amount of pages and view.

I only checked this forum. But it does seem to be a popular one.

As I said early on in the thread "You did good" by starting this thread. It can be a timeless thread and unravel well into the future. [:D] [:D] [:D]

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS THREAD. [;)]

Good job [:I] [8)] [:p]

[Anonymous]

NORA [^] [:)] [:p] [8D] [^]

As far as I can tell you win the prize for the most popular forum thread going. YOUR thread is 17 pages and has over 4,347 views. Another popular thread is zardoz's humor thread with 9 pages and over 1420 views. Kevin's thread NOT for cowards has 11 pages and 2654 views. The GE vs. EMD battle continues (but should have read EMDs better then GE -- at least what most railroader say anyway) with 11 pages and 1924 views. I might get run over in the parking lot for including this one but the railroad crossing thread was 12 pages and had 1558 views but we won't add anymore personal comments about that one. It express opinions not necessarily in the majority of our minds. I just listed the ones that had an appeal to me, you probally could find several more with a fair amount of pages and view.

I only checked this forum. But it does seem to be a popular one.

As I said early on in the thread "You did good" by starting this thread. It can be a timeless thread and unravel well into the future. [:D] [:D] [:D]

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS THREAD. [;)]

Good job [:I] [8)] [:p]