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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora


Nora [:o)]


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora


Nora [:o)]


Wish him a "Happy Birthday" for me. [:o)] [^] [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
[}:)] what time is the cake being served? [}:)]



Mookie, better hurry and make that Amtrak reservation. [}:)] [:D] You know walking that distance is no fun even if it is for choc cake. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
[}:)] what time is the cake being served? [}:)]



Mookie, better hurry and make that Amtrak reservation. [}:)] [:D] You know walking that distance is no fun even if it is for choc cake. [;)]
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
[}:)] what time is the cake being served? [}:)]

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
[}:)] what time is the cake being served? [}:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:03 PM
Hey Nora - best wishes to your son! What a milestone.
Ummm... chocholate cake.....
Wow, 361 replies and counting! This thread has been a tremendous success.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:03 PM
Hey Nora - best wishes to your son! What a milestone.
Ummm... chocholate cake.....
Wow, 361 replies and counting! This thread has been a tremendous success.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora

happy birthday!!!!!!!
matt had some cake at my nephews wedding and apple pie at grandmas the next day!!!!
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora

happy birthday!!!!!!!
matt had some cake at my nephews wedding and apple pie at grandmas the next day!!!!
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:24 PM
why do european railroad locomotives have operating cabs in BOTH
ends but american ones do not? even the emd, alco, baldwin types
built for european systems had cabs in both ends. was this not done
in american because of the extra expense, or because multiple unit
operation in europe is a rarity, trains are generally much shorter in
length and lighter in tonnage and the freight cars are much shorter?

also, i still see occasions where units are operated rear end leading
--the front engine--on the main line away from yards. it's seldom, tho.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:24 PM
why do european railroad locomotives have operating cabs in BOTH
ends but american ones do not? even the emd, alco, baldwin types
built for european systems had cabs in both ends. was this not done
in american because of the extra expense, or because multiple unit
operation in europe is a rarity, trains are generally much shorter in
length and lighter in tonnage and the freight cars are much shorter?

also, i still see occasions where units are operated rear end leading
--the front engine--on the main line away from yards. it's seldom, tho.
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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:44 PM
Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:44 PM
Hey Jen, it's my younger son's first birthday today. Do you know what that means?

It means I have chocolate cake waiting for me at home!

[8D]

Oh, and an update on the moving for anyone who cares -- we are definitely moving in a week to ten days, so I'll then be able to spend more than 15 minutes a week getting caught up here. Finally!

--Nora
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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.


Me, sweet? You've definitely got me confused with someone else.

I took Amtrak once, in 1992, from Pittsburgh to Oregon, then to Seattle, then back to Pittsburgh. It wasn't a horrible trip but it did seem sometimes that the train was stopped a lot more often than it was moving, and most of the trains I had to take were at least a couple hours late either leaving or arriving. And the bathrooms on the looooong Chicago-Portland leg were horrible and I refused to use them, and the sleeper car (which I wasn't in) caught fire in North Dakota. I guess that does sound kind of like a horrible trip, but I was 16 and it was my first long trip away from home by myself, and I just thought it was all a big adventure.

I want to take Jay on the train from Akron to Pittsburgh one of these days. It's supposed to leave at 6 AM, so I hope it's really late when I decide to go. [:)]

--Nora
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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I AM surprised by your two. Mookie, better straighten up that tiara, it seems to be a little tilted today. Poor Nora, I think the moving deal is getting to her as she seems not to be her normal sweet self.


Me, sweet? You've definitely got me confused with someone else.

I took Amtrak once, in 1992, from Pittsburgh to Oregon, then to Seattle, then back to Pittsburgh. It wasn't a horrible trip but it did seem sometimes that the train was stopped a lot more often than it was moving, and most of the trains I had to take were at least a couple hours late either leaving or arriving. And the bathrooms on the looooong Chicago-Portland leg were horrible and I refused to use them, and the sleeper car (which I wasn't in) caught fire in North Dakota. I guess that does sound kind of like a horrible trip, but I was 16 and it was my first long trip away from home by myself, and I just thought it was all a big adventure.

I want to take Jay on the train from Akron to Pittsburgh one of these days. It's supposed to leave at 6 AM, so I hope it's really late when I decide to go. [:)]

--Nora
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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 3:05 PM
Jim was talking about different types of fires and it made me think about an article in our local paper about another railroad problem, hazardous material leaks. So I thought I'd share.

http://www.nwherald.com/spider/NWH/news/278943056271462.html

Its a pretty decent article, and I have to admit that it would be fascinating to plan a drill like this but scary as hell to have to deal with the real thing.

Hope you enjoy!

Mike
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Posted by techguy57 on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 3:05 PM
Jim was talking about different types of fires and it made me think about an article in our local paper about another railroad problem, hazardous material leaks. So I thought I'd share.

http://www.nwherald.com/spider/NWH/news/278943056271462.html

Its a pretty decent article, and I have to admit that it would be fascinating to plan a drill like this but scary as hell to have to deal with the real thing.

Hope you enjoy!

Mike
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:47 PM
One of our fire departments in my county had to deal with a fire along the RR ROW and no roads to get to it. The call came in from BNSF that their train had caught a hot bearing, and had started a fire over what amounted to about 4 miles of ROW. Some spots were right off of roads, while other were no where near roads. BNSF unhooked their 2 SD70MACs and had several local firefighters hop on to access the fire with their water packs. I was the only deputy on at the time, so I couldn't hop on...I was ticked & jealous
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Posted by kwboehm on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:47 PM
One of our fire departments in my county had to deal with a fire along the RR ROW and no roads to get to it. The call came in from BNSF that their train had caught a hot bearing, and had started a fire over what amounted to about 4 miles of ROW. Some spots were right off of roads, while other were no where near roads. BNSF unhooked their 2 SD70MACs and had several local firefighters hop on to access the fire with their water packs. I was the only deputy on at the time, so I couldn't hop on...I was ticked & jealous
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....Jen, I don't want to get started on health cost...as then I'll have to be up on the soap box even longer yet...
scoot your chair a little closer....we seem to agree on lots!

Mookie

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....Jen, I don't want to get started on health cost...as then I'll have to be up on the soap box even longer yet...
scoot your chair a little closer....we seem to agree on lots!

Mookie

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CG9602

QUOTE:

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie


A few minor points here, Mookie:
1. Amtrak didn't exist in 1969. It makes no sense to blame an organization that didn't exist before 1970 for something that took place earlier.
2. taking 22 - 24 hours to get someplace is what happens when the service is cut to the bone and then more - The MILW had less than a handful of trains going via WI in 1969 ( only one going to Madison), and so did the CBQ. The CNW had a very small handful of trains remaining in WI, and even they were seasonal only.
3. Amtrak has never had the money to provide really good service. They have had to fight just to get money to run even one train per day across WI. Unlike many other industries, they've never had "money with which to make money."
4. I look at my train trips as an integral part of the vacation - not just as a means to get to a vacation spot.

I have no desire to spark off a flame war here - just pointing out some things.
I stand corrected - you are right - I rode on the old CB&Q I believe - my memory isn't as good as it used to be. But we went from Lincoln to Omaha to Chicago (just this side of Chicago) and up to LaCrosse. It was the wait at if I remember correctly - Aurora IL and LaCrosse that about did me in. (Had to take the bus further up north.) Amtrak in my mind isn't a company - it is a train trip in whatever era.

I waited in Lincoln (late) Aurora (late) and to come home in LaCrosse (late). I am not arguing that cuts were the problem - only that an airplane would have taken a lot less time. And right now, would cost about the same.

And when you leave Lincoln - where do you go for vacation? Well, I like California for one - I have 1-2 weeks vacation. You do the math! Or maybe I want to go to Epcot in Florida. I go from point A to point B - and transporation is very important since I would have to travel quite a ways in the dark - so no sightseeing. I am coming from the middle of nowhere and it's a long ways to anything!

But I am realistic enough to understand - no govt or corporation is going to be too concerned about Mookie getting from point A to point B - since she isn't part of the majority of the population. My choice! I live where there aren't that many people.

I really do understand!

Mookie

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CG9602

QUOTE:

Took Amtrak in 1969 from LIncoln to Wisconsin - took 22 hours going and 24 to come back. No more Amtrak! [8]

Mookie


A few minor points here, Mookie:
1. Amtrak didn't exist in 1969. It makes no sense to blame an organization that didn't exist before 1970 for something that took place earlier.
2. taking 22 - 24 hours to get someplace is what happens when the service is cut to the bone and then more - The MILW had less than a handful of trains going via WI in 1969 ( only one going to Madison), and so did the CBQ. The CNW had a very small handful of trains remaining in WI, and even they were seasonal only.
3. Amtrak has never had the money to provide really good service. They have had to fight just to get money to run even one train per day across WI. Unlike many other industries, they've never had "money with which to make money."
4. I look at my train trips as an integral part of the vacation - not just as a means to get to a vacation spot.

I have no desire to spark off a flame war here - just pointing out some things.
I stand corrected - you are right - I rode on the old CB&Q I believe - my memory isn't as good as it used to be. But we went from Lincoln to Omaha to Chicago (just this side of Chicago) and up to LaCrosse. It was the wait at if I remember correctly - Aurora IL and LaCrosse that about did me in. (Had to take the bus further up north.) Amtrak in my mind isn't a company - it is a train trip in whatever era.

I waited in Lincoln (late) Aurora (late) and to come home in LaCrosse (late). I am not arguing that cuts were the problem - only that an airplane would have taken a lot less time. And right now, would cost about the same.

And when you leave Lincoln - where do you go for vacation? Well, I like California for one - I have 1-2 weeks vacation. You do the math! Or maybe I want to go to Epcot in Florida. I go from point A to point B - and transporation is very important since I would have to travel quite a ways in the dark - so no sightseeing. I am coming from the middle of nowhere and it's a long ways to anything!

But I am realistic enough to understand - no govt or corporation is going to be too concerned about Mookie getting from point A to point B - since she isn't part of the majority of the population. My choice! I live where there aren't that many people.

I really do understand!

Mookie

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:44 PM
Dan [8D]

Glad to see you are back to your normal self. [:)]

I used to be a volunteer fireman myself. I wondered many times about such equipment in my area. Many times the railroad tracks are a good distance from the road and sometimes there is no road. One VERY important thing about fighting a train fire (or any fire) is knowing WHAT is inside that tank car or box car. Firemen have been killed by gases that are heavier than air and have settled in a low spot, then along comes a truck or car and guess what? BOOM. Also fertilizers (some react with water) can also explode. But I think the idea is a good one and have wondered about it too. It might have been useful in your area these past few weeks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:44 PM
Dan [8D]

Glad to see you are back to your normal self. [:)]

I used to be a volunteer fireman myself. I wondered many times about such equipment in my area. Many times the railroad tracks are a good distance from the road and sometimes there is no road. One VERY important thing about fighting a train fire (or any fire) is knowing WHAT is inside that tank car or box car. Firemen have been killed by gases that are heavier than air and have settled in a low spot, then along comes a truck or car and guess what? BOOM. Also fertilizers (some react with water) can also explode. But I think the idea is a good one and have wondered about it too. It might have been useful in your area these past few weeks.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:07 PM
With all the fires and such.....

Do the any of the RRs still have any of the fire train equipment. I've seen pictures and models of modified tank cars and sprayers to fight brush fires along the tracks. Alot of the fires out here have been in fairly remote areas with well water or water brought in by truck to fight.
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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:07 PM
With all the fires and such.....

Do the any of the RRs still have any of the fire train equipment. I've seen pictures and models of modified tank cars and sprayers to fight brush fires along the tracks. Alot of the fires out here have been in fairly remote areas with well water or water brought in by truck to fight.
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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:07 PM
....Jen, I don't want to get started on health cost...as then I'll have to be up on the soap box even longer yet...

Quentin

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:07 PM
....Jen, I don't want to get started on health cost...as then I'll have to be up on the soap box even longer yet...

Quentin

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