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[northwesterner]

My thanks to all of you who pitched in on my questions - Jim, Dave H., and of course The Mook. I really enjoy this forum!

CNW - Route of the 400 Streamliners,and of course, the Kate Shelley 400.

[northwesterner]

My thanks to all of you who pitched in on my questions - Jim, Dave H., and of course The Mook. I really enjoy this forum!

CNW - Route of the 400 Streamliners,and of course, the Kate Shelley 400.

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

More on PRR position-light signals:

Nora mentioned that the horizontal (stop) aspect was two red lights on one signal, and three yellow ones on others in the yard. Red lights on a position-light signal mean that it's an absolute signal...stop and stay. Don't bother looking for a "D" sign; it won't be there. Three horizontal yellow lights are the most restrictive indication--usually Stop and Proceed--on a signal that isn't an absolute signal.

Yes, you are right, and I am an idiot, there ISN'T a D sign there. I had a look today, and it's a C. I could only see part of the sign from the angle I was at before and the part I saw looked like a D. Or maybe I should have just gotten my new contacts a lot sooner than I did.

But at least I'm not nearly so confused now, and I know what the D sign means if I ever do come across one! [8D]

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

More on PRR position-light signals:

Nora mentioned that the horizontal (stop) aspect was two red lights on one signal, and three yellow ones on others in the yard. Red lights on a position-light signal mean that it's an absolute signal...stop and stay. Don't bother looking for a "D" sign; it won't be there. Three horizontal yellow lights are the most restrictive indication--usually Stop and Proceed--on a signal that isn't an absolute signal.

Yes, you are right, and I am an idiot, there ISN'T a D sign there. I had a look today, and it's a C. I could only see part of the sign from the angle I was at before and the part I saw looked like a D. Or maybe I should have just gotten my new contacts a lot sooner than I did.

But at least I'm not nearly so confused now, and I know what the D sign means if I ever do come across one! [8D]

--Nora

[dharmon]

Once again the great Zardoz has spoken ...hee.hee

[dharmon]

Once again the great Zardoz has spoken ...hee.hee

[zardoz]

QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner
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BTW, is Zardoz pronounced like "No-Doze", or is it "Zar-Dots"? Just curious, since you are a regular.

Zardoz is pronounced like the zard in wizard, and oz as in Wizard of Oz.

My 'handle' is taken from the movie of the same name. It is a sci-fi movie from the '70's, with the storyline about a futuristic society where humans have divided into two "classes", the "Eternals" and the "Savages". Zardoz is the "God" of the savages, and all sorts of interesting social roles and societal values are explored. I cannot tell you more in case you decide to watch the movie--I do not want to give anything more away about the plot or ending.

It is a most excellent movie, if you're into that sort of thing.


p.s. thanks, Mookie

[zardoz]

QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner
.
BTW, is Zardoz pronounced like "No-Doze", or is it "Zar-Dots"? Just curious, since you are a regular.

Zardoz is pronounced like the zard in wizard, and oz as in Wizard of Oz.

My 'handle' is taken from the movie of the same name. It is a sci-fi movie from the '70's, with the storyline about a futuristic society where humans have divided into two "classes", the "Eternals" and the "Savages". Zardoz is the "God" of the savages, and all sorts of interesting social roles and societal values are explored. I cannot tell you more in case you decide to watch the movie--I do not want to give anything more away about the plot or ending.

It is a most excellent movie, if you're into that sort of thing.


p.s. thanks, Mookie

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info. On Long Island the third rail is exposed especially near grade crossings, as there is a break in the third rail. I never remember hearing about injuries.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info. On Long Island the third rail is exposed especially near grade crossings, as there is a break in the third rail. I never remember hearing about injuries.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

I have a stupid question....

With electrified lines, are the overhead wires or the third rail always electrified or are they turned on as needed? I grew up on Long Island and one could very easily walk up to the third rail, but I never heard about kids getting hurt.

Thanks,
Tom

To the best of my knowledge they are always hot. Third rails are "usually" enclosed so that the shoe is inside the cover as it's running along. Locos such as FL9s would run diesel into town and then switch to electric in the city underground and through the concrete canyons where public access is limited for safety reasons. There are usually a couple of third rail deaths every year, generally folks in subway tunnels...homeless folks, etc. Catenary lines such as the NEC or NJ Transit lines are generally harder to get to, but I remeber as a kid hearing a news story about some teenagers that were electrocuted messing around on top of some bauxcars. in NJ.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

I have a stupid question....

With electrified lines, are the overhead wires or the third rail always electrified or are they turned on as needed? I grew up on Long Island and one could very easily walk up to the third rail, but I never heard about kids getting hurt.

Thanks,
Tom

To the best of my knowledge they are always hot. Third rails are "usually" enclosed so that the shoe is inside the cover as it's running along. Locos such as FL9s would run diesel into town and then switch to electric in the city underground and through the concrete canyons where public access is limited for safety reasons. There are usually a couple of third rail deaths every year, generally folks in subway tunnels...homeless folks, etc. Catenary lines such as the NEC or NJ Transit lines are generally harder to get to, but I remeber as a kid hearing a news story about some teenagers that were electrocuted messing around on top of some bauxcars. in NJ.

[Anonymous]

I have a stupid question....

With electrified lines, are the overhead wires or the third rail always electrified or are they turned on as needed? I grew up on Long Island and one could very easily walk up to the third rail, but I never heard about kids getting hurt.

Thanks,
Tom

[Anonymous]

I have a stupid question....

With electrified lines, are the overhead wires or the third rail always electrified or are they turned on as needed? I grew up on Long Island and one could very easily walk up to the third rail, but I never heard about kids getting hurt.

Thanks,
Tom

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Nora and others. You were looking for a Pennsy nut to explain position light signals.There are three lights in a row,vertically,diagonaly,or horizantally.Think of this as a semiphore.lit vertically=proceed,diagonally=caution,horizonally=stop. GG1's Forever![8D][:D][:)][:p]

If I remember my reading from some long ago article on signals correctly, there were three aspects of the position light signals that corresponded to semaphores, as discussed, but there was also a "reversed" diagonal that had a meaning all its own. Can't remember what it was, though.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Nora and others. You were looking for a Pennsy nut to explain position light signals.There are three lights in a row,vertically,diagonaly,or horizantally.Think of this as a semiphore.lit vertically=proceed,diagonally=caution,horizonally=stop. GG1's Forever![8D][:D][:)][:p]

If I remember my reading from some long ago article on signals correctly, there were three aspects of the position light signals that corresponded to semaphores, as discussed, but there was also a "reversed" diagonal that had a meaning all its own. Can't remember what it was, though.

[CShaveRR]

More on PRR position-light signals:

Nora mentioned that the horizontal (stop) aspect was two red lights on one signal, and three yellow ones on others in the yard. Red lights on a position-light signal mean that it's an absolute signal...stop and stay. Don't bother looking for a "D" sign; it won't be there. Three horizontal yellow lights are the most restrictive indication--usually Stop and Proceed--on a signal that isn't an absolute signal.

[CShaveRR]

More on PRR position-light signals:

Nora mentioned that the horizontal (stop) aspect was two red lights on one signal, and three yellow ones on others in the yard. Red lights on a position-light signal mean that it's an absolute signal...stop and stay. Don't bother looking for a "D" sign; it won't be there. Three horizontal yellow lights are the most restrictive indication--usually Stop and Proceed--on a signal that isn't an absolute signal.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The rear unit is a Distributed Power locomotive, or DP unit. It is a helper that can be controlled from the lead unit. East-West coal trains operate 1x1 and North-south coal trains operate 2x1.

Dave H.

psst - Dave...BNSF here - they operate our east-west ones with usually 2 on headend and none on rear and our south ones are usually 1x1....am I missing something?

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The rear unit is a Distributed Power locomotive, or DP unit. It is a helper that can be controlled from the lead unit. East-West coal trains operate 1x1 and North-south coal trains operate 2x1.

Dave H.

psst - Dave...BNSF here - they operate our east-west ones with usually 2 on headend and none on rear and our south ones are usually 1x1....am I missing something?

Mookie

[techguy57]

foamer- Thanks much for the position info. That makes a lot of sense! You Pennsy nuts sure have given me a lot of useful info![:D]

Keep'em rolling down the rails

techguy

[techguy57]

foamer- Thanks much for the position info. That makes a lot of sense! You Pennsy nuts sure have given me a lot of useful info![:D]

Keep'em rolling down the rails

techguy

[espeefoamer]

Nora and others. You were looking for a Pennsy nut to explain position light signals.There are three lights in a row,vertically,diagonaly,or horizantally.Think of this as a semiphore.lit vertically=proceed,diagonally=caution,horizonally=stop. GG1's Forever![8D][:D][:)][:p]

[espeefoamer]

Nora and others. You were looking for a Pennsy nut to explain position light signals.There are three lights in a row,vertically,diagonaly,or horizantally.Think of this as a semiphore.lit vertically=proceed,diagonally=caution,horizonally=stop. GG1's Forever![8D][:D][:)][:p]

[dehusman]

The rear unit is a Distributed Power locomotive, or DP unit. It is a helper that can be controlled from the lead unit. East-West coal trains operate 1x1 and North-south coal trains operate 2x1.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

The rear unit is a Distributed Power locomotive, or DP unit. It is a helper that can be controlled from the lead unit. East-West coal trains operate 1x1 and North-south coal trains operate 2x1.

Dave H.

[Mookie]

Oh Zardoz, tell him the derivation of your name - I just love that story! In the event he (Zardoz) doesn't catch this or forgets, remind me and I will give you the short version.

Mookie

[Mookie]

Oh Zardoz, tell him the derivation of your name - I just love that story! In the event he (Zardoz) doesn't catch this or forgets, remind me and I will give you the short version.

Mookie

[northwesterner]

I got a response from Mookie! I feel honored. Thanks for the info and you too, Zardoz.
BTW, is Zardoz pronounced like "No-Doze", or is it "Zar-Dots"? Just curious, since you are a regular.

CNW: route of the Kate Shelley 400.

[northwesterner]

I got a response from Mookie! I feel honored. Thanks for the info and you too, Zardoz.
BTW, is Zardoz pronounced like "No-Doze", or is it "Zar-Dots"? Just curious, since you are a regular.

CNW: route of the Kate Shelley 400.