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Posted by edblysard on Monday, November 24, 2003 5:49 AM
Hi Bob,
Were your thinking about the SD90 that UP ordered from EMD, that will, at some point, have a 6000 hp prime mover?
So far, EMD has sold a lot of them to UP, but with a smaller diesel, the 6000 hp is active only on a few testbed locomotives.
Most of the SD90s sold to UP are under warranty, in that when the 6000 hp is ready, EMD will retrofit the current sold locomotives with it.
We got to use one to take a grain train out to Cargil Grain elevator, not much different that a SD70, but rode real nice.
When these things get the "big" engine, they ought to be a real bad beast.
Stay frosty,
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Posted by edblysard on Monday, November 24, 2003 5:49 AM
Hi Bob,
Were your thinking about the SD90 that UP ordered from EMD, that will, at some point, have a 6000 hp prime mover?
So far, EMD has sold a lot of them to UP, but with a smaller diesel, the 6000 hp is active only on a few testbed locomotives.
Most of the SD90s sold to UP are under warranty, in that when the 6000 hp is ready, EMD will retrofit the current sold locomotives with it.
We got to use one to take a grain train out to Cargil Grain elevator, not much different that a SD70, but rode real nice.
When these things get the "big" engine, they ought to be a real bad beast.
Stay frosty,
Ed

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Posted by Granny74 on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:38 PM
Dave H: Thanks for the info. I guess I was thinking of some other engine.

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Posted by Granny74 on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:38 PM
Dave H: Thanks for the info. I guess I was thinking of some other engine.

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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:26 PM
UP 9000 is neither happy nor cantankerous. Its retired. UP 9000 was probably an ex-SP engine that's in a rebuild shop in Mexico. Its not a 6000 hp unit.

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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:26 PM
UP 9000 is neither happy nor cantankerous. Its retired. UP 9000 was probably an ex-SP engine that's in a rebuild shop in Mexico. Its not a 6000 hp unit.

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Posted by locomutt on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:48 PM
Very interesting Nora. Were they doing any track-work
in that area,during that time span[?]
I live close to the NS &CSX and have never seen
signs like you are talking about. Maybe some else
with more smarts than I have can give an answer[?]

By the way,glad you are back[:)]

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Posted by locomutt on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:48 PM
Very interesting Nora. Were they doing any track-work
in that area,during that time span[?]
I live close to the NS &CSX and have never seen
signs like you are talking about. Maybe some else
with more smarts than I have can give an answer[?]

By the way,glad you are back[:)]

Later,locomutt[8D]

Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!

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Posted by Nora on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:05 PM
This question is about some signs I've seen beside the NS tracks where we take our walk. Each sign had a big black "A" on it, some of these signs were yellow, and some were white. They were down at track level, near a set of signals (within 30 or 50 feet), maybe a mile or so outside a yard. There are four tracks there and I think there was a sign for each one.

The odd thing is that workers would come out and cover the signs with black plastic for a few days or a week, then they would come out and uncover the signs, then a few days later they'd be covered again, and this went on for maybe a couple months. At some point the signs disappeared and are now gone. Does anyone have any idea what these signs meant and why they were playing hide-and-seek?

Another thing I noticed is that each of the 4 signals there have small signs with the letter C on them right next to the signals. I also looked at the signals near our house (same line, about 8 or 10 miles away) and one of the two signals there has the same "C" sign. I think the other one has a sign that says "D" but I can't get near enough at the right angle to see for sure. What are these?

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Posted by Nora on Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:05 PM
This question is about some signs I've seen beside the NS tracks where we take our walk. Each sign had a big black "A" on it, some of these signs were yellow, and some were white. They were down at track level, near a set of signals (within 30 or 50 feet), maybe a mile or so outside a yard. There are four tracks there and I think there was a sign for each one.

The odd thing is that workers would come out and cover the signs with black plastic for a few days or a week, then they would come out and uncover the signs, then a few days later they'd be covered again, and this went on for maybe a couple months. At some point the signs disappeared and are now gone. Does anyone have any idea what these signs meant and why they were playing hide-and-seek?

Another thing I noticed is that each of the 4 signals there have small signs with the letter C on them right next to the signals. I also looked at the signals near our house (same line, about 8 or 10 miles away) and one of the two signals there has the same "C" sign. I think the other one has a sign that says "D" but I can't get near enough at the right angle to see for sure. What are these?

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Posted by Granny74 on Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:52 PM
Well, this may be another stupid question, but I was wondering about the UP 9000(6,000HP, I think??). Is it a "happy" unit or a "cantankerous" engine to operate??
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Posted by Granny74 on Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:52 PM
Well, this may be another stupid question, but I was wondering about the UP 9000(6,000HP, I think??). Is it a "happy" unit or a "cantankerous" engine to operate??
Bob from AZ
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:57 PM
....I don't know if they all do but CSX engine ditch lights flash as they approach a crossing too. I agree...The flashing lights do get one's attention. We have both NS and CSX here traveling through Muncie and on those lines, I've not noticed any that are not flashing. To me it seems like a good idea. I would imagine they do improve an engineer's lighted view at night. [Without the fog]. That, I can understand could be a problem with them lit.
200,000 to 300,000 candlepower makes them pretty powerful.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:57 PM
....I don't know if they all do but CSX engine ditch lights flash as they approach a crossing too. I agree...The flashing lights do get one's attention. We have both NS and CSX here traveling through Muncie and on those lines, I've not noticed any that are not flashing. To me it seems like a good idea. I would imagine they do improve an engineer's lighted view at night. [Without the fog]. That, I can understand could be a problem with them lit.
200,000 to 300,000 candlepower makes them pretty powerful.

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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:35 AM
The only perpose i can see for the flashing of the ditch lights are to brake the trance a person might be in seeing the bright lights comming at them. if you look at a train long enough the lights will put you in a trance and if they flash it does break this. ive been on up engines and bnsf engines that dont but all ns engines flash when you blow the horn or hit the switch.
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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:35 AM
The only perpose i can see for the flashing of the ditch lights are to brake the trance a person might be in seeing the bright lights comming at them. if you look at a train long enough the lights will put you in a trance and if they flash it does break this. ive been on up engines and bnsf engines that dont but all ns engines flash when you blow the horn or hit the switch.
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:52 AM
...To any non professonal of railroading...you can read the "word" regulating "ditch-crossing lights" by going to Google and typing in "Railroad Ditch Lights" and that will bring up info at "Code of Federal Regulations, [sec. 229.133], and one can read complete specs. on the position and use of ditch lights as regarding railroad use.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:52 AM
...To any non professonal of railroading...you can read the "word" regulating "ditch-crossing lights" by going to Google and typing in "Railroad Ditch Lights" and that will bring up info at "Code of Federal Regulations, [sec. 229.133], and one can read complete specs. on the position and use of ditch lights as regarding railroad use.

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Friday, November 21, 2003 9:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Okay, this may have been asked before, but what all do you carry in your grip?


I'm glad someone asked this, I was wondering too after I saw some guys getting off one end of a train and getting back on the other end (engines at both ends). They all looked like they'd packed for a month away from home!

--Nora


Hello Nora,

My late father was an engineer on the ATSF, and he went through at least two or three grips that I know of. I used one of the old ones to carry my school books in as a child. Sure I was teased, but none of their bags, which were of the sporty kind, could carry school books, lunch, raincoat and golashes...with some room to spare! LOL

He carried a thermos bottle, raincoat, tablet clipboard for his papers to stamp, gloves, and hand tools (pliers and a screwdriver) that I know of. He would never let me get into his grip. I didn't know if he thought I was going to do to it what I did to my toy box (I had a habit of flinging toys out of the toy box)..LOL...or he thought I would hurt myself with the tools. When you're only 7 or 8, toys DON'T BELONG IN THE TOY BOX [:D]

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Posted by Trainnut484 on Friday, November 21, 2003 9:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Okay, this may have been asked before, but what all do you carry in your grip?


I'm glad someone asked this, I was wondering too after I saw some guys getting off one end of a train and getting back on the other end (engines at both ends). They all looked like they'd packed for a month away from home!

--Nora


Hello Nora,

My late father was an engineer on the ATSF, and he went through at least two or three grips that I know of. I used one of the old ones to carry my school books in as a child. Sure I was teased, but none of their bags, which were of the sporty kind, could carry school books, lunch, raincoat and golashes...with some room to spare! LOL

He carried a thermos bottle, raincoat, tablet clipboard for his papers to stamp, gloves, and hand tools (pliers and a screwdriver) that I know of. He would never let me get into his grip. I didn't know if he thought I was going to do to it what I did to my toy box (I had a habit of flinging toys out of the toy box)..LOL...or he thought I would hurt myself with the tools. When you're only 7 or 8, toys DON'T BELONG IN THE TOY BOX [:D]

Take care

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Posted by dehusman on Friday, November 21, 2003 8:00 PM
Only if the ditch lites are set up to blink. Some do. Some don't.

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Posted by dehusman on Friday, November 21, 2003 8:00 PM
Only if the ditch lites are set up to blink. Some do. Some don't.

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, November 21, 2003 6:58 PM
....Isn't it a fact as the train approaches a crossing and starts to blow the horn the ditch lights start to blink back and forth automatically as a further warning. [:0]

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, November 21, 2003 6:58 PM
....Isn't it a fact as the train approaches a crossing and starts to blow the horn the ditch lights start to blink back and forth automatically as a further warning. [:0]

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Posted by Nora on Friday, November 21, 2003 5:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Okay, this may have been asked before, but what all do you carry in your grip?


I'm glad someone asked this, I was wondering too after I saw some guys getting off one end of a train and getting back on the other end (engines at both ends). They all looked like they'd packed for a month away from home!

--Nora
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Posted by Nora on Friday, November 21, 2003 5:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Okay, this may have been asked before, but what all do you carry in your grip?


I'm glad someone asked this, I was wondering too after I saw some guys getting off one end of a train and getting back on the other end (engines at both ends). They all looked like they'd packed for a month away from home!

--Nora
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Posted by Willy2 on Friday, November 21, 2003 4:36 PM
Another headlight question: Sometimes when a train is nearing a crossing the ditchlights flash back and forth. Which engines have this feature and is it really useful?

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Posted by Willy2 on Friday, November 21, 2003 4:36 PM
Another headlight question: Sometimes when a train is nearing a crossing the ditchlights flash back and forth. Which engines have this feature and is it really useful?

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 21, 2003 3:54 PM
If your not careful, Aimee is going to figure out why I keep taking my waders and bait bucket to work with me!
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

With all that excess time they have while they are out waiting to get into the yards or out of the yards - why not! Everyone has a cell phone and they could call the crew back to the engine when time to go. Seems like the railroad is hurry up and wait most of the time - so.....

oooo.....nasty worms - makes me want to go fishing!

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 21, 2003 3:54 PM
If your not careful, Aimee is going to figure out why I keep taking my waders and bait bucket to work with me!
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

With all that excess time they have while they are out waiting to get into the yards or out of the yards - why not! Everyone has a cell phone and they could call the crew back to the engine when time to go. Seems like the railroad is hurry up and wait most of the time - so.....

oooo.....nasty worms - makes me want to go fishing!

Mookie

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