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[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainheartedguy

OK - Another stupid question - What would cause an AMTRAK train to be running 6 hours late, and then stop in a town for an hour that it isn't even supposed to stop in. The one AMTRAK that comes through brunswick has done that a few times (I have found the explination for 2 of those times, but there are many unefined days, one time the lead AMD-103 died and had to be taken off and placed in the yard here, leaving the second unit to run the 16 car train on is own, the other, it ran out of fuel)

Amtrak due here in the morning about 12 something am. Came thru at 3:44 - (yes I was awake and just ready to get up for the day) It does this pretty regularly. But this time it may have been due to the big rumble out in California yesterday. Otherwise, I just figure it is just somewhere in the Amtrak contract - always be off schedule in Lincoln!

Mook

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by trainheartedguy

OK - Another stupid question - What would cause an AMTRAK train to be running 6 hours late, and then stop in a town for an hour that it isn't even supposed to stop in. The one AMTRAK that comes through brunswick has done that a few times (I have found the explination for 2 of those times, but there are many unefined days, one time the lead AMD-103 died and had to be taken off and placed in the yard here, leaving the second unit to run the 16 car train on is own, the other, it ran out of fuel)

Amtrak due here in the morning about 12 something am. Came thru at 3:44 - (yes I was awake and just ready to get up for the day) It does this pretty regularly. But this time it may have been due to the big rumble out in California yesterday. Otherwise, I just figure it is just somewhere in the Amtrak contract - always be off schedule in Lincoln!

Mook

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by skeets

Yes, you got it. Freight cars are being lettered NYC; it's strange to see a brand new CSX color paint job with NYC on the flank. I understand that CSX is relettering their Conrail stuff NYC, while freight cars still in CR are considered NS. I don't think you'll see freight cars lettered PRR.

Actually, I think I have seen PRR on cars - we get a lot of coal at a local cogen plant and for a while we were getting a mix of CR cars -some NYC, some PRR. Don't see that now, though. They've pretty well sorted them out.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by skeets

Yes, you got it. Freight cars are being lettered NYC; it's strange to see a brand new CSX color paint job with NYC on the flank. I understand that CSX is relettering their Conrail stuff NYC, while freight cars still in CR are considered NS. I don't think you'll see freight cars lettered PRR.

Actually, I think I have seen PRR on cars - we get a lot of coal at a local cogen plant and for a while we were getting a mix of CR cars -some NYC, some PRR. Don't see that now, though. They've pretty well sorted them out.

[mudchicken]

trainheart:

Have seen Amtrak held out of a terminal because :(1) Terminal was unmanned after hours, (2) Medical emergency, (3) Coroner report investigation for earlier incident, (4) Terminal congestion at platforms, (4) Hoglaw problems, crew and train separated, (5) Water supply and potty sanitaion problems, (6) Rowdy passengers being handed off to the local constabulary....

Murphy was an optimist and he usually works overtime on passenger trains.

[mudchicken]

trainheart:

Have seen Amtrak held out of a terminal because :(1) Terminal was unmanned after hours, (2) Medical emergency, (3) Coroner report investigation for earlier incident, (4) Terminal congestion at platforms, (4) Hoglaw problems, crew and train separated, (5) Water supply and potty sanitaion problems, (6) Rowdy passengers being handed off to the local constabulary....

Murphy was an optimist and he usually works overtime on passenger trains.

[dharmon]

Okay, Here's another dumb one I thought about as I was driving 4 blocks to the grocery store...on Christmas Eve....to stand in line for 15 minutes...for a jar of molasses.....

Do locomotives have seatbelts? I have only been in a few cabs, all older stuff. They did not. But the cabooses did, and after reading this forum for awhile, I understand why. Do the newer cabs have seatbelts?

[dharmon]

Okay, Here's another dumb one I thought about as I was driving 4 blocks to the grocery store...on Christmas Eve....to stand in line for 15 minutes...for a jar of molasses.....

Do locomotives have seatbelts? I have only been in a few cabs, all older stuff. They did not. But the cabooses did, and after reading this forum for awhile, I understand why. Do the newer cabs have seatbelts?

[edblysard]

Hi Dan,
No, they dont have seatbelts.
But, on the wide cab, or North American cab, the cab interior is a lot better laid out than before.
The control surfaces are easier to reach, the seats on the EMDs are adjustable, including the back and arm rest, the conductor has a tabletop desk, with lights, his own radio mike, things like that.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Dan,
No, they dont have seatbelts.
But, on the wide cab, or North American cab, the cab interior is a lot better laid out than before.
The control surfaces are easier to reach, the seats on the EMDs are adjustable, including the back and arm rest, the conductor has a tabletop desk, with lights, his own radio mike, things like that.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[michaelstevens]

On the subject of "PRR markings on Conrail repaints" -- a Railroader here in the Philadelphia area (actually in Pavonia Yard) told me that "PRR" is used to designate assignment to the "Conrail Shared Assets" business subsidiaries (of NS and CSX).

[michaelstevens]

On the subject of "PRR markings on Conrail repaints" -- a Railroader here in the Philadelphia area (actually in Pavonia Yard) told me that "PRR" is used to designate assignment to the "Conrail Shared Assets" business subsidiaries (of NS and CSX).

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info everyone.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info everyone.

[dharmon]

Ed, Micheal...

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

Merry Christmas. .....now get off the computer and go be with the family...[:D]

[dharmon]

Ed, Micheal...

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

Merry Christmas. .....now get off the computer and go be with the family...[:D]

[Anonymous]

Sorry to bring this back....I have a stupid question.

How do engineers know when to stop after they enter a RR Station? I watch Amtrak all day and the locos stop at different places along the platforms depending on the length
of the train. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Sorry to bring this back....I have a stupid question.

How do engineers know when to stop after they enter a RR Station? I watch Amtrak all day and the locos stop at different places along the platforms depending on the length
of the train. Thanks.

[dehusman]

They know how long the train is an they know where they have to stop to position the train properly. Afterall they stop trains at that station day in and day out for years.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

They know how long the train is an they know where they have to stop to position the train properly. Afterall they stop trains at that station day in and day out for years.

Dave H.

[Anonymous]

goodie goodie gum drops, one I can answer

See we have dummy markers
you got to be a real Dummy to miss these. When the Marker says 3, the Locomotive should stop at/ short about 1 meter of that sign, Meaning it has Three cars, and 1 locmotive.

if the sign Says 8, that usually means the first Car or 2 won't be on the platform. The written rule, is if the train is longer then the platform, always overshoot it the amont of extra cars, never stop short. Then the conductor of that train tells the passengers to get off using the END cars of the train. Platforms usuall can hold 6-7 cars comfortably, one only holds 3, a few hold eight...

So on that platform that only holds three, the locomotive has to go well beyond the actual platform so the last three cars can fit comfotably, the big sign that sais 8, 100-200 yards ahead of the station is where the train should be stopped.

most trains are 3-5 cars, so often no cars are left dangling off the platform.

hope thats clear, and knowing me, it's as clear as mud


*******6**********5*******4*******3*******|----------------------------------------------|************
=====|LOCO|==1===|==2===|===3==|===4===|===5===|===6===|============
===============================================================

So the stars represent the grass,The numbers in the grass are the sign posts, the |--------| is the platform, ==== are the tracks, and the |===2===| are the cars.

help any?

what i was saying before, Car number 6 has to be at kleast at the end of the platform, it's not allowed to be off. car number 1 can be off, then 2 if necesary, then number 3 if necesary

hope that helps.

and in the drawing above, the conductor would stande between cars number 3 and 4, and only open the doors for number 4, 5 and 6

but one station beofre hand he'd tell the passenegrs to get ready, and to get off the back of the train.

[Anonymous]

goodie goodie gum drops, one I can answer

See we have dummy markers
you got to be a real Dummy to miss these. When the Marker says 3, the Locomotive should stop at/ short about 1 meter of that sign, Meaning it has Three cars, and 1 locmotive.

if the sign Says 8, that usually means the first Car or 2 won't be on the platform. The written rule, is if the train is longer then the platform, always overshoot it the amont of extra cars, never stop short. Then the conductor of that train tells the passengers to get off using the END cars of the train. Platforms usuall can hold 6-7 cars comfortably, one only holds 3, a few hold eight...

So on that platform that only holds three, the locomotive has to go well beyond the actual platform so the last three cars can fit comfotably, the big sign that sais 8, 100-200 yards ahead of the station is where the train should be stopped.

most trains are 3-5 cars, so often no cars are left dangling off the platform.

hope thats clear, and knowing me, it's as clear as mud


*******6**********5*******4*******3*******|----------------------------------------------|************
=====|LOCO|==1===|==2===|===3==|===4===|===5===|===6===|============
===============================================================

So the stars represent the grass,The numbers in the grass are the sign posts, the |--------| is the platform, ==== are the tracks, and the |===2===| are the cars.

help any?

what i was saying before, Car number 6 has to be at kleast at the end of the platform, it's not allowed to be off. car number 1 can be off, then 2 if necesary, then number 3 if necesary

hope that helps.

and in the drawing above, the conductor would stande between cars number 3 and 4, and only open the doors for number 4, 5 and 6

but one station beofre hand he'd tell the passenegrs to get ready, and to get off the back of the train.

[Anonymous]

Where can one find these dummy markers. In Wilmington, Delaware it would take one hell of a long train to hang over the platforms. I have only seen trains with extra trailers at the end hang over.

Thanks for the info guys!

[Anonymous]

Where can one find these dummy markers. In Wilmington, Delaware it would take one hell of a long train to hang over the platforms. I have only seen trains with extra trailers at the end hang over.

Thanks for the info guys!

[Anonymous]

well in the city of ile perrot, their platform has room for 3 cars and not a pinch more. it's insane, i hate that platform. tinyiest thing ever. so as soon as you have 4 cars, boom, the hang over effect.

yeah (an engineer) has to be a realy big dumb bell to miss these things, I figure only Moe, Larry and Curly could miss these!

[Anonymous]

well in the city of ile perrot, their platform has room for 3 cars and not a pinch more. it's insane, i hate that platform. tinyiest thing ever. so as soon as you have 4 cars, boom, the hang over effect.

yeah (an engineer) has to be a realy big dumb bell to miss these things, I figure only Moe, Larry and Curly could miss these!

[Mikeygaw]

all this talk of platform length reminds me of the one time i was on the Philadelphia El, going about half way down the line, and the driver overshot about 2/3 of the stations and had to back up before opening the doors

[Mikeygaw]

all this talk of platform length reminds me of the one time i was on the Philadelphia El, going about half way down the line, and the driver overshot about 2/3 of the stations and had to back up before opening the doors

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Chicago Transit Authority has car markers at all of its L-subway stations. Similar markers can be found on the South Shore at Hegewisch, probably the other stations. Metra Southwest Service (ex-WAB) to Orland Park has these markers. This line also has several short station platforms so positioning the train properly is important.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Chicago Transit Authority has car markers at all of its L-subway stations. Similar markers can be found on the South Shore at Hegewisch, probably the other stations. Metra Southwest Service (ex-WAB) to Orland Park has these markers. This line also has several short station platforms so positioning the train properly is important.