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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:58 AM
Dan how's the weather in California...

or do they not let you outside often from your Cell?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 9:58 AM
Dan how's the weather in California...

or do they not let you outside often from your Cell?

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Posted by dharmon on Monday, December 15, 2003 10:11 AM
If I bang my head against the padding or start fighting with my straight jacket they let me go out into the yard.

It's been in the high 40s at night and up to the high sixties/low seventies in the day. comfortable. It was kinda windy this weekend so I had to shovel the snow...I mean dusty ash off the sidewalk.
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Posted by dharmon on Monday, December 15, 2003 10:11 AM
If I bang my head against the padding or start fighting with my straight jacket they let me go out into the yard.

It's been in the high 40s at night and up to the high sixties/low seventies in the day. comfortable. It was kinda windy this weekend so I had to shovel the snow...I mean dusty ash off the sidewalk.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, December 15, 2003 10:19 AM
The various Federally mandated speed limits are based on an order issued by the ICC in about 1955 which ordered maximum speed limits based on the signal system in use on the track. Speeds were restricted to less than 80 MPH on tracks without cab signals or automatic train stop. Other limits were imposed on unsignalled trackage.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, December 15, 2003 10:19 AM
The various Federally mandated speed limits are based on an order issued by the ICC in about 1955 which ordered maximum speed limits based on the signal system in use on the track. Speeds were restricted to less than 80 MPH on tracks without cab signals or automatic train stop. Other limits were imposed on unsignalled trackage.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 11:52 AM
While driving today I saw a UP Hirail truck on the mainline. It was a fairly large truck and had DC - 20 on the side. Does anyone know what this truck is and what its function is. The was also a Hirail pickup with it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 15, 2003 11:52 AM
While driving today I saw a UP Hirail truck on the mainline. It was a fairly large truck and had DC - 20 on the side. Does anyone know what this truck is and what its function is. The was also a Hirail pickup with it.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, December 15, 2003 12:12 PM
Hello Zardoz,

Thanks a lot! That is one heck of an educational lesson. I had no idea of the factors involved in fast freight movements. You make a very good point regarding Revenue vs. Fuel Mileage, Signaling, and Gear Ratios. Compared to the 60s most Class One Railroads are now single tracked for long stretches and congested near terminals! ( I remember just a few years back reading the TRAINS article about UP's infamous "TEXAS MELTDOWN" after merging with Southern Pacific.- Traffic almost grinded to a halt.) Diesel engines, especially high reving EMDs, can suck up a lot of fuel at speed. Got to admit though, as a railfan, I'll miss seeing 3 or 4 locomotives "scream by" with 90 cars at 75mph, For those of you under 35 that can remember, WHAT A BREATHTAKING SIGHT THAT WAS! BTW Zardoz- it's obvious that you are a professional. Are you an engineer, conductor, Road Foreman?

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, December 15, 2003 12:12 PM
Hello Zardoz,

Thanks a lot! That is one heck of an educational lesson. I had no idea of the factors involved in fast freight movements. You make a very good point regarding Revenue vs. Fuel Mileage, Signaling, and Gear Ratios. Compared to the 60s most Class One Railroads are now single tracked for long stretches and congested near terminals! ( I remember just a few years back reading the TRAINS article about UP's infamous "TEXAS MELTDOWN" after merging with Southern Pacific.- Traffic almost grinded to a halt.) Diesel engines, especially high reving EMDs, can suck up a lot of fuel at speed. Got to admit though, as a railfan, I'll miss seeing 3 or 4 locomotives "scream by" with 90 cars at 75mph, For those of you under 35 that can remember, WHAT A BREATHTAKING SIGHT THAT WAS! BTW Zardoz- it's obvious that you are a professional. Are you an engineer, conductor, Road Foreman?

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, December 15, 2003 3:20 PM
DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, December 15, 2003 3:20 PM
DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 15, 2003 4:21 PM
Nance
In most cases when you let the hogs get you ( hours of service) a relief crew is already their and no reason to tie the train down. but if you do tie it down it is 4 hours that has to go by before a air test needs to be done. unless you leave the engine running.

the speeds of past was also due in part of the time table. if you had to get to point b in so many min the speed limits was only a guide there was many times you run 10-15 mph over to stay on time now adays there is no schedual so you do as told by the book.
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 15, 2003 4:21 PM
Nance
In most cases when you let the hogs get you ( hours of service) a relief crew is already their and no reason to tie the train down. but if you do tie it down it is 4 hours that has to go by before a air test needs to be done. unless you leave the engine running.

the speeds of past was also due in part of the time table. if you had to get to point b in so many min the speed limits was only a guide there was many times you run 10-15 mph over to stay on time now adays there is no schedual so you do as told by the book.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC


Thanks M C [:)]

The ties and ballast were redone within the last year or so. This was on the Van Buren sub but still in North Little Rock (Levy area). The tracks go under I-40 and there is major work on the road and bridges in our area. I was curious if the current road work had anything to do with DC-20 being here. Just a note--the Camp Robinson spur is right there also. This spur sees MOW equipment parked there every now and then. A year or two ago they parked a CNW unit there for a day or two. I wish now I would have taken a pic or two of it but didn't. The special WWII Trains magazine showed a troop train at Camp Robinson being loaded with solders going off to war. Who knows when the last "real" train (not MOW equipment) went down those tracks. It would have been sometime between WWII and who knows when.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC


Thanks M C [:)]

The ties and ballast were redone within the last year or so. This was on the Van Buren sub but still in North Little Rock (Levy area). The tracks go under I-40 and there is major work on the road and bridges in our area. I was curious if the current road work had anything to do with DC-20 being here. Just a note--the Camp Robinson spur is right there also. This spur sees MOW equipment parked there every now and then. A year or two ago they parked a CNW unit there for a day or two. I wish now I would have taken a pic or two of it but didn't. The special WWII Trains magazine showed a troop train at Camp Robinson being loaded with solders going off to war. Who knows when the last "real" train (not MOW equipment) went down those tracks. It would have been sometime between WWII and who knows when.
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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:06 PM
AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:06 PM
AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:05 AM
"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:05 AM
"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fiverings

"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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John [:)]

You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fiverings

"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

--John


John [:)]

You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )
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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

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Yea, something like that, except it was a bit more exciting at the time [B)]
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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

[:0]

Mookie


Yea, something like that, except it was a bit more exciting at the time [B)]
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:32 PM
Any officials I would have known, from out Proviso way? You only did what I may have felt like doing often enough...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:32 PM
Any officials I would have known, from out Proviso way? You only did what I may have felt like doing often enough...

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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:37 PM
The detector cars have to go over the mains several times a year. So the DC 20 was making its normal rounds.

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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:37 PM
The detector cars have to go over the mains several times a year. So the DC 20 was making its normal rounds.

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