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Jock Ellis Cumming, GA US of A Georgia Association of Railroad Passengers
QUOTE: Originally posted by Lotus098 Did you serve? Are your children serving? Are any Democrats children serving?
QUOTE: Originally posted by jockellis G'day, Y'all, James, You may recall that the early American government provided for post roads, which of course were not made of 4x4 treated posts, but were for the postal riders to use while delivering the mail. While Jefferson, Madison, et al, were a bunch of theorists with their own views on what a democrarcy should be, George Washington was a pragmatist who understood very well that a government had to provide certain things for the states and people to survive the real world. At the time of his death, the only railroads were coal minetrains hauled by horses. The 29 mph recorded by the steam locomotive 30 years later would have been considered HSR. Knowing how Washington felt about being out of touch with his troops during battle and with those in other areas of the conflict, I think that he would have been the first to approve of a system which would have allowed him to send orders from one end of the country to the other in the dizzying speed of about a day rather than a couple of weeks or so. I don't think that as the centuries progressed he'd expect it to stay at that same speed. As a farmer, he understood the need to have income when you have outgo. He was very, very adamant that whatever Mount Vernon did promised a profit. He would have been renting out the railroad track down the eastern seaboard and turning a profit for the government. Jock Ellis Cumming, GA US of A
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QUOTE: Originally posted by edkowal I've not been paying attention to this thread for a number of days, but it's certainly gratifying to see that the discussion has managed to remain on-topic, reasonable, and interesting, without major bouts of irrationality, name calling, mis-spellings, and personal vitriol. -Ed
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Girl_4005 Regardless of if this war if for "democracy" or for "oil", I seriously doubt anyone that died on September 11th would want 2000 more of their fellow citizens to die for them. There is a saying "Charity starts at home". When there is less poverty , less homelessness, less hardship overall here at home I might believe Bush has interests other than his own and his "base" as he calls the "haves and the have mores". I was incensed by September 11th, I was thrilled when we invaded Afghanistan and again when we went into Iraq. I stood by Bush ,even though I consider myself a Democrat, when he unveiled the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Even for awhile after that I still thought we had done the right thing. Then more guys started dying, more troops started going over there. When a mission is "accomplished" we are supposed to ramp down, not up. When it started coming out that the intelligence was flawed I didn't want to believe it at first but since it was the same news agencies that had led me to believe we were right to go into Iraq why shouldn't I believe them when they have new information. I want to say that I totally support the military-they had no choice. They are doing the job they signed up for. The problem is they are obeying faulty orders given by people that ( I don't think anyway) really don't have the best interests of this country or the men they are commanding at heart. I also don't think we can just pull out-the war has destroyed so much that we have to clean up our mess. Were we to just leave things as they are the warlords would take over and everything we supposedly fought to end would come back to being.
QUOTE: Bush has the best interests of the nation at heart, on that you can rely. Whether his actions are the best option, or if there are other things that would work better for the current situation is a viable subject of debate. The problem is, your side doesn't want to discuss different ideas, you just want to undermine our President and the armed forces, and somehow ride that bandwagon from Hell to victory in 2006. "Support our troops, oppose the war" is one of the dumbest slogans I have ever heard. Kind of in the vein of "Support your church, but don't attend services", or "Support your team, oppose them playing the game".
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
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