QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo I guess its just the piece of mind here in Wyoming but, we see gas prices going up as a good thing, it means that oil costs more, meaning that there is more drilling operations, especially here, therefore more money into the oilfield in the state, giving the state more money. Also all the people who work in the oilfield make more money. Also you all have ot think, if gas cost more back in the 1960s than it does now due to inflation, then it also means eventually, as the price of gas goes up then also the amount of pay will go up. I think they were just talking about raising the minimum wage just this week.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark I suggest everyone do a google search on Peak Oil.... Yes, gasoline prices will continue to rise, $3 a galllon is not out of the question in 2 years, $4 a gallon is not out of the picture in 4 years, $5 a gallon is very probable in 6 years..... No matter how high it goes up, we the consumers of gasoline, have not dropped our consumption, as demand keeps going up..... And with China continuing to consume more oil, we are doomed..... Why anyone wants to buy a SUV or a large pickup, anything larger than a 4 cyclinder engine, is beyond me! Why the average house being built in America today is over 2,000 square feet, mini mansions are what they are building, is beyond me..... You'd think with doubling our energy costs in 2 years people would be buying smaller homes of 1,000 square feet instead..... Half our energy use is to heat and air condition a home...... why would anyone want a 4 cylinder pickup truck or SUV... no power..or little power for hulling... cant pull a boat for crap behind a 4 cylinder.... and as far as the size of houses....if i want a big house...im getting a big house.... ever hear of high efficancy heating....geothermal heating... lots of aways to cut heating and cooling bills if you set your house up right...size dont mean crap..its how well you have it insulated and how effient your AC and furnes are.... you can live in your 1000 sq feet house..but i myself like lost of open space and big rooms...makes me feel more comfortable like the walls arnt closing in on me..... csx engineer That's why I got rid of my V8 for a V6 Instead! BNSFrailfan.
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98 QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark I suggest everyone do a google search on Peak Oil.... Yes, gasoline prices will continue to rise, $3 a galllon is not out of the question in 2 years, $4 a gallon is not out of the picture in 4 years, $5 a gallon is very probable in 6 years..... No matter how high it goes up, we the consumers of gasoline, have not dropped our consumption, as demand keeps going up..... And with China continuing to consume more oil, we are doomed..... Why anyone wants to buy a SUV or a large pickup, anything larger than a 4 cyclinder engine, is beyond me! Why the average house being built in America today is over 2,000 square feet, mini mansions are what they are building, is beyond me..... You'd think with doubling our energy costs in 2 years people would be buying smaller homes of 1,000 square feet instead..... Half our energy use is to heat and air condition a home...... why would anyone want a 4 cylinder pickup truck or SUV... no power..or little power for hulling... cant pull a boat for crap behind a 4 cylinder.... and as far as the size of houses....if i want a big house...im getting a big house.... ever hear of high efficancy heating....geothermal heating... lots of aways to cut heating and cooling bills if you set your house up right...size dont mean crap..its how well you have it insulated and how effient your AC and furnes are.... you can live in your 1000 sq feet house..but i myself like lost of open space and big rooms...makes me feel more comfortable like the walls arnt closing in on me..... csx engineer
QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark I suggest everyone do a google search on Peak Oil.... Yes, gasoline prices will continue to rise, $3 a galllon is not out of the question in 2 years, $4 a gallon is not out of the picture in 4 years, $5 a gallon is very probable in 6 years..... No matter how high it goes up, we the consumers of gasoline, have not dropped our consumption, as demand keeps going up..... And with China continuing to consume more oil, we are doomed..... Why anyone wants to buy a SUV or a large pickup, anything larger than a 4 cyclinder engine, is beyond me! Why the average house being built in America today is over 2,000 square feet, mini mansions are what they are building, is beyond me..... You'd think with doubling our energy costs in 2 years people would be buying smaller homes of 1,000 square feet instead..... Half our energy use is to heat and air condition a home......
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QUOTE: Originally posted by HighIron2003ar 2.11 here in Arkansas. I keep my cars close to home so I hardly pay anything in gas thank god. There are many large vehicle users (Pickups, SUV's etc) that must commute to Little Rock every day and I am beginning to recognize them several times a week when they stop to fill up. Part of the problem is the so called compact vehicle is just too small to survive a crash, haul a trailer, bring in goods from the Home Depot etc. Also the larger the vehicle the more room you are given during rush hour especially when you are way past 70+ mph trying to make it to work ahead of everyone else. If that is not a fuel efficient speed then I dont know what is. These folks who fight and shove thier way past other traffic are bullies who waste money in gas and have no one to blame but themselves. Refining capacity worries me more than the gas prices. I believe that in order to keep up with future growth we must construct more refineries and encourage hybrid and other technologies for vehicles. It is still possible to power a vehicle and out run fossil fueled cars today. Imagine what can be done in the future if we are really serious about easing the amount of gasoline we consume a day.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Have you seen the cars Europeans drive @ 70MPH?
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar ...As we all understand Calif. gas prices are and have been for some time higher in price than much of the rest of the nation...I suppose the fact they require different mix of fuel to control polution contributes greatly to a higher price.
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith $2.00 a gallon!!! Where????? Sheeee-iiit let me fill my tank, Hell I'll fill my wifes tank and a couple of empty trash cans as well!!!! Sheeesh! you guys are SPOILED!!!! Gas prices here on the lefty coast haven't been below $2.00 a gallon since Clinton was in office. I average $2.25 and thats at the cheepie ARCO stations. $2.50 is common at the big brands. There saying here that $3.00 a gallon is likely by the end of summer. So chew on that while whinning about pouring $2.00 a gallon gas into your giant Dodge Pigasaurous. Ducking from the angry replys I know are coming[:D][;)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith $2.00 a gallon!!! Where????? Sheeee-iiit let me fill my tank, Hell I'll fill my wifes tank and a couple of empty trash cans as well!!!! Sheeesh! you guys are SPOILED!!!! Gas prices here on the lefty coast haven't been below $2.00 a gallon since Clinton was in office. I average $2.25 and thats at the cheepie ARCO stations. $2.50 is common at the big brands. There saying here that $3.00 a gallon is likely by the end of summer. So chew on that while whinning about pouring $2.00 a gallon gas into your giant Dodge Pigasaurous. Ducking from the angry replys I know are coming[:D][;)] $1.99 out here in the cornyards of North Central Hoosierland. 11 year old Chrysler mini-van to boot! Mitch
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QUOTE: Originally posted by uzurpator QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Have you seen the cars Europeans drive @ 70MPH? Of course. Infact - I see them do it every day...
QUOTE: Originally posted by wcfan4ever Gas here in Wisconsin is between $2.05 and $2.20 a gallon! I remember when I saw gas at $0.99/gal! Those were the days but I was too young to drive yet! I also remember seeing gas in Kansas City in 2001 for $0.96! Ever since then, I dont think I have seen gas prices go down...just up. I just wi***hey would fix the price at $1.75/gallon and be done with it!
QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark We can do as the Europeans and Japanese do..... when it comes to hauling freight such as a big screen televison from Walmart. A.) Rent a truck B.) Have the store deliver C.) Hire someone else to deliver Why people claim they have to buy a SUV when their SUV never sees the light of day off a paved highway is beyond me... Why people claim they have to have a pickup when the largest thing they have ever hauled in its bed is a big screen television is beyond me.... Yes, even ranchers and farmers in Europe and Japan manage to do well using the above options without a pickup..... And there is always the 4 cyclinder compact pickup..... Up until the new release of the 2004 Volkswagen Golf this year, for the past 3 years the largest selling car in Europe was the Volkswagen Lupo....then the Volkswagen Polo, and then the Volkswagen Golf. The Lupo is a three cyclinder very small car, what the Europeans are calling a city car, which gets over 60 MPG in its diesel configuration.... In Europe a fuel efficient vehicle is 60 MPG, in America most think 30 MPG is fuel efficient..... That's the problem! As for large houses, dream on! A new large house with all the modern energy efficiencies don't save you half your electricity bill.... what's saved in heating and air conditioning is wasted on more lights and applicances being used.... A new small house with all the modern energy efficiencies will result in half the energy bill of a new large house twice as large,,,,, Lets not compare old houses with new.....that's like comparing apples with oranges.....
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I will be in WY in late May/early June. I will be for sure at Evanston, Granger & Green River. Do you know if you are on I80 from Green River to the Utah border do the UPRR tracks run close enough to the interstate that you can some some good shots of the UPRR moving along the overland route?
RJ
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QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark We can do as the Europeans and Japanese do..... when it comes to hauling freight such as a big screen televison from Walmart. A.) Rent a truck B.) Have the store deliver C.) Hire someone else to deliver Why people claim they have to buy a SUV when their SUV never sees the light of day off a paved highway is beyond me... Why people claim they have to have a pickup when the largest thing they have ever hauled in its bed is a big screen television is beyond me.... Yes, even ranchers and farmers in Europe and Japan manage to do well using the above options without a pickup..... And there is always the 4 cyclinder compact pickup..... Up until the new release of the 2004 Volkswagen Golf this year, for the past 3 years the largest selling car in Europe was the Volkswagen Lupo....then the Volkswagen Polo, and then the Volkswagen Golf. The Lupo is a three cyclinder very small car, what the Europeans are calling a city car, which gets over 60 MPG in its diesel configuration.... In Europe a fuel efficient vehicle is 60 MPG, in America most think 30 MPG is fuel efficient..... That's the problem! As for large houses, dream on! A new large house with all the modern energy efficiencies don't save you half your electricity bill.... what's saved in heating and air conditioning is wasted on more lights and applicances being used.... A new small house with all the modern energy efficiencies will result in half the energy bill of a new large house twice as large,,,,, Lets not compare old houses with new.....that's like comparing apples with oranges..... I'll tell you what, next october, move here and drive a little 2 wheel drive, 4 cylinder, pick up truck all winter long and then just about this time you go out to see some of the country or go railfanning then you will see the need for a lagre V6 / V8 Truck or SUV. Get stuck and you will see the need even more. QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I will be in WY in late May/early June. I will be for sure at Evanston, Granger & Green River. Do you know if you are on I80 from Green River to the Utah border do the UPRR tracks run close enough to the interstate that you can some some good shots of the UPRR moving along the overland route? Hey spbed, Email me at miniwyo@gmail.com and tell me what routes you are taking through wyoming, and where you are going and I will be able to tell you better. Thanks! Oh and everyone, I filled up my truck yesterday for $1.72/gallon [}:)] there is a station on the outskirts of town that is selling regular unleaded gas for almost $2.20 a gallon, when you can get ti for $1.72 in town. How that place makes money is beyond me.
QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark I bet that station selling gas at $1.72 will be increasing its prices once a new load of fuel arrives..... 4 wheel drive 4 cyclinder pickups are available.....if you need traction..... The point I was attempting to make is that in Europe where gas prices are at $4 and $5 a gallon, Volkswagen sells two car makes that they don't in America.... At the very same time we are complaining about $2 a gallon gas, our neighbors in Nova Scotia, Canada are spending close to $4 a gallon..... I don't have to force anyone, it won't be long before the American government bans 8 cyclinder cars..... and increase the gas mileage rates for all cars sold in America.... When? Sooner than you think..... WAKE UP! CHEAP GAS IS A THING OF THE PAST!
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed I was alluding to what some else said is that gas guzzlers are needed because we zip along at a quick pace. Just check out what the Europeans drive at the speed he mentioned & that includes driving on the no speed limit Autobahn. [:o)]
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