QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield Enough animosity, Don I appreciate your knowledge of railroading and see that it runs through your veins like mine. I'm also a railroader, enough of this subject and back to trains!
QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield Hey guy's did you hear that, snake oil improves gas mileage! What ever.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Not in the lower SE air is a $0.25 & vacum is also a quarter [:o)][8D] Originally posted by passengerfan [ Near Disney World country ( Orlando / Kissimmee ) it's many quarters for vac and air for x minutes . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, May 16, 2005 4:28 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by underworld Buy a diesel and run on vegetable oil or biodiesel.....diesel fuel made from vegetable stocks instead of petroleum. www.veggievan.org underworld [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] For the majority of the [censored] gas powered public to understand the efficiency of a diesel vehicle, they need education on alternative fuels such as biodiesel, ethanol and hybrid technology . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply Sterling1 Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Traveling in Middle Earth 795 posts Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, May 16, 2005 4:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Hey if you didn't notice, the "biggest" "meanest" "gas guzzler" that I own is infact not. My diesel can squeeze out 20mpg on the highway (weighs 4tons), will burn alternitative fuels with no mods, and most of the Ford Excursions that get so much bad press have the same engine. I already experiment with waste cooking oil to reduce my dependance on crude. As soon as biodiesel made by AMERICAN FARMERS is available round here, I'll pay 10.00bucks a gallon to support that. One other thing I dont get is the constant reference to the H2. IT"S NO FREAKIN DIFFERENT THAN A TAHOE. Don't see anyone talkin bout corvettes either, seems to get even worse milage. Thats ok, I don't really care what others think anymore. Adrianspeeder I wondered when someone would mention biodiesel and alternative fuels . . . I spent an entire high school senior year doing a project on biodiesel . . . I just wonder why some people in their big vehicles won't use ethanol or biodiesel The [censored][censored][censored] people don't know what's good for them until it's gone and too expensive . . . Matt "There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.] Reply daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,096 posts Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 16, 2005 1:34 PM All cars sold in the USA should be Hybrids. This research money that Bush or Congress wants to spent is pure pork-barrel. The technology is already here in the form of batteries and hybrids. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 16, 2005 12:12 PM Hey guy's did you hear that, snake oil improves gas mileage! What ever. Reply Edit oltmannd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Atlanta 11,971 posts Posted by oltmannd on Monday, May 16, 2005 11:34 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Torpedo I would like to see the gas prices encourage AmTrak to TRIPLE it's number of trains. As it is, AmTrak is crowded, chronically late and way too expensive. Recently I tried to get ANY kind of compartment a month before my trip and found everything booked up. I'd settle for a daylight Atlanta-NYC train! -Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/) Reply oltmannd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Atlanta 11,971 posts Posted by oltmannd on Monday, May 16, 2005 11:33 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield 93 ranger 100,00 miles 4.0 litre v-6 18 mpg city since new, now 22 mpg. Next subject. placebo effect + anecdotal evidence + no dyamonoter test + no statistical analysis = SNAKE OIL! It's an old, old story that pops up every time the price of oil spikes. Anyone care for a little "Slick 50"? -Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/) Reply Torpedo Member sinceMay 2005 From: Central Arizona 7 posts Posted by Torpedo on Sunday, May 15, 2005 7:34 PM I would like to see the gas prices encourage AmTrak to TRIPLE it's number of trains. As it is, AmTrak is crowded, chronically late and way too expensive. Recently I tried to get ANY kind of compartment a month before my trip and found everything booked up. Reply passengerfan Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Central Valley California 2,841 posts Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:38 PM Well nothing good to report on gasoline local paper this AM reported the summer season will be upon us within weeks and gasoline shall continue to rise anywhere from twenty to forty cents per gallon for the summer anyway. Is it just greed or maybe I should invest in Oil shares as well to protect my retirement before it all goes i9n the gas tank. Reply andrewjonathon Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 304 posts Posted by andrewjonathon on Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:53 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by krump 97.9 cents per Canadian litre over here (pretty close to $4/gal) crazy 98 cents per liter is just a little less than $3 US per US gallon. (98 cents * 3.78 (number of litres per US gallon) *.8 (current exchange rate)) Here we are paying about $2.50 per gallon. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:04 AM Thats pretty funny, I got a kick out of that! To each his own though. Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:01 AM ....Over the years we've had many treatments....Ion control, atomizers, mini turbo wheels, fish carbnuretors, items to fasten to gas line to take out...??, etc....Don't know anything about the product here under discussion but in the past it's been somewhat like a cottage industry to produce the miracle product to produce outrages fuel economy figures...I'd say use a grain of salt......[;)] Quentin Reply fievel Member sinceJanuary 2003 277 posts Posted by fievel on Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:09 AM You guys are hilarious !! [(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D] Cascade Green Forever ! GET RICH QUICK !! Count your Blessings. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 13, 2005 10:21 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield 93 ranger 100,00 miles 4.0 litre v-6 18 mpg city since new, now 22 mpg. Next subject. HAH- got you beat... I've always said I would rather push my car to work than drive a ford Infinite mileage [:D] I work at home... but still[}:)] Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 13, 2005 10:11 PM 93 ranger 100,00 miles 4.0 litre v-6 18 mpg city since new, now 22 mpg. Next subject. Reply Edit oltmannd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Atlanta 11,971 posts Posted by oltmannd on Friday, May 13, 2005 2:14 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield Typical skeptic Don, my m.p.g. average is up 20%. You can use any facts and figures you like, only one that matters to me is in my wallet! Stew Plecebo effect! I'm not the guy who needs to produce real, credible numbers..... -Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/) Reply krump Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Beautiful BC 897 posts Posted by krump on Friday, May 13, 2005 1:43 PM 97.9 cents per Canadian litre over here (pretty close to $4/gal) crazy cheers, krump "TRAIN up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it" ... Proverbs 22:6 Reply passengerfan Member sinceMarch 2004 From: Central Valley California 2,841 posts Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:01 PM Not that many years ago I filled my car for $4.00and spent another $2.00 and got a complete wash. I made less than $2.00 an hour Today it just cost me $52.00 for the fill up and $16.00 for the wash. Today I am retired on Social Security so probably make less than $2.00 per hour. Where is the justice. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:02 AM enviromax works even better in diesel than gas engines, it works. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:58 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark If you want a 30 percent increase in gas mileage, buy a diesel car.... Instead of around 30 mpg highway you'll get over 40 mpg.... Volkswagen Passats, Jettas, Beetles, and Golfs have TDI diesel engines.... A year ago it seemed like diesel was cheaper than unleaded, now it appears diesel fuel is more expensive, but you'll still be ahead due to the increased gas mileage..... Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:12 AM ...Yesterday: 1.97.....Today at some locations here: 2.19 Quentin Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:37 AM I get about 10% better mileage by filling up in Wisconsin, outside the Chicago & Milwaukee regional areas and avoiding the reformulated gas used here. If I understand it correctly, oxegenated gas really only benefits emissions in cars older than ~10 years and heavier gasoline burning trucks. In newer cars the computer controls the mixture based on O2 in the exhaust so more O2 equals a richer mixture. In addition the energy content per gallon of reformulated gas is probably lower and the price is higher. Reply Edit 1234567»Last » Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by underworld Buy a diesel and run on vegetable oil or biodiesel.....diesel fuel made from vegetable stocks instead of petroleum. www.veggievan.org underworld [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Hey if you didn't notice, the "biggest" "meanest" "gas guzzler" that I own is infact not. My diesel can squeeze out 20mpg on the highway (weighs 4tons), will burn alternitative fuels with no mods, and most of the Ford Excursions that get so much bad press have the same engine. I already experiment with waste cooking oil to reduce my dependance on crude. As soon as biodiesel made by AMERICAN FARMERS is available round here, I'll pay 10.00bucks a gallon to support that. One other thing I dont get is the constant reference to the H2. IT"S NO FREAKIN DIFFERENT THAN A TAHOE. Don't see anyone talkin bout corvettes either, seems to get even worse milage. Thats ok, I don't really care what others think anymore. Adrianspeeder
QUOTE: Originally posted by Torpedo I would like to see the gas prices encourage AmTrak to TRIPLE it's number of trains. As it is, AmTrak is crowded, chronically late and way too expensive. Recently I tried to get ANY kind of compartment a month before my trip and found everything booked up.
QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield 93 ranger 100,00 miles 4.0 litre v-6 18 mpg city since new, now 22 mpg. Next subject.
QUOTE: Originally posted by krump 97.9 cents per Canadian litre over here (pretty close to $4/gal) crazy
Quentin
Cascade Green Forever ! GET RICH QUICK !! Count your Blessings.
QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield Typical skeptic Don, my m.p.g. average is up 20%. You can use any facts and figures you like, only one that matters to me is in my wallet! Stew
cheers, krump
"TRAIN up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it" ... Proverbs 22:6
QUOTE: Originally posted by donclark If you want a 30 percent increase in gas mileage, buy a diesel car.... Instead of around 30 mpg highway you'll get over 40 mpg.... Volkswagen Passats, Jettas, Beetles, and Golfs have TDI diesel engines.... A year ago it seemed like diesel was cheaper than unleaded, now it appears diesel fuel is more expensive, but you'll still be ahead due to the increased gas mileage.....
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