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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TRAINMANTOM

goduckies who is JFK AND WHERE WAS HE MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD


John F Kerry, since you called our conservatives, I called out him, since he is the Dem's hero.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:45 PM
goduckies who is JFK AND WHERE WAS HE MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:41 PM
JUST CHECKED MY PREVIOUS REPLIES COULD NOT FIND ANY NAME CALLING AS I SAID DON T LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:26 PM
I DONT USE THE FEDERAL AIRWYS WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM WITH MY TAX MONEY . ANY REPLIES FROM CONSERVATIVES OUT THERE
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TRAINMANTOM

I DON T THINK MR BUSH REMEMBERS 9/11 WHEN ALL AIRCRAFT WERE GROUNDED AND PEOPLE COULD NOT GET HOME . NO WE DONT NEED AMTRAK OR THE THOUSANDS OF JOBS THAT IT HAS .CONSERVATIVES ONLY THINK ABOUT WAR


Yeah that is all that Bu***hinks about. War, at least he does something about suffereing unlike Bill Clinton who let over a 800,000 die in Ruwanda. Just because I am a conservative also doesn't mean I don't support Amtrak. There are a lot of conservatives who do. JFK sure as hell doesn't though. Unless he is using it as a political vice. Please don't use name calling here, as all it does is degenerate the thread.
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Posted by billlbeutler on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:17 PM
From what I hear, the fright railroads would like to see Amtrak gone from there roads anyway. With fright traffic at a high these trains are in the way arn't they?
Don't get me wrong I like having the passenger trains and think that more would be better. It's a nice way to travel I took my family to Illinois form Kansas.
Also why are the cities restoring the old passenger depots if there is no intrest in rail travel?Take K.C.Mo Union Station.
Saturday 02/05/05 Amtrak #4 was held up in Topeka Ks. for at least 6 hours, some drunk tried to out run the Police and hit a big power pole and the wires droped on to the tracks shuting down the Topeka sub.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:17 PM
I DON T THINK MR BUSH REMEMBERS 9/11 WHEN ALL AIRCRAFT WERE GROUNDED AND PEOPLE COULD NOT GET HOME . NO WE DONT NEED AMTRAK OR THE THOUSANDS OF JOBS THAT IT HAS .CONSERVATIVES ONLY THINK ABOUT WAR
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Posted by morseman on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:01 PM
To all those who suggest privatizing Amtrak I suggest they look at
all other countries and their passenger rail systems
HIGH speed trains, Frequent service, Up to date equipment,
dedicated tracks, maintenance facilities, I'm sure the list could go
on and on. All other countries realize the importance of
passenger rail and appropriate funding for same.
I say all other countries, perhaps this is a blanket statement
but what other largely populated country undercuts and
attempts to disolve its passenger trains as the U>S>
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 2:00 PM
O.S.YOU DONT SEEM TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE SICK TO DEATH OF ALL THOSE OUTIN THE US WHO ARGUE A POINT WITHOUT LETTING ALL THE CORRECT FACTS ,OR ARE OF THE OPINION THAT WHAT IS GOOD FOR THEM IS GOOD FOR ALL .JUST BECAUSETHEY DONT USE AMTRAK NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED .YOU KNOW WHAT I DONT WANT MY TAX MONEY USED FOR THE HIGHWAYSOR AIRWAYS NOW WHAT IS TOUR REPLY SIR
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 12:50 PM
Oltmannd made a succinct and accurate observation. Viability isn't possible without funding, and funding doesn't happen without political committment, and political committment doesn't happen without popular support. Amtrak is a fine example of purgatory. Not a pleasant place to be.


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 12:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by letzerich

President Bush, in his $ 2.75 trillion budget proposal has sounded the death knell for Amtrak with the elimination of the $ 1.2 billion annual subsidy. This is long overdue as Amtrak has not been viable for the last several years, I'm not sure that the wole endeavour wasn't still born at conception.



Not viable to WHOM?

So Amtrak share of intercity travel is 1% comapred to like 85% highways and 12% air and 2% bus.

Teachers represent about 2% of U.S. society with farmers a little less.

They're insignificant?

Tell that to 25 million people that rode the system last year, despite Amtrak being attacked left and right.

Given Washington's three decades of stiffing Amtrak when it comes to funding, actually decreasing rail funding in gigantic amounts while increasing highway and air funding (those aren't subsidized, right!), it's a miracle Amtrak has the market share it has now.

Record ridership. More than anytime in the past three decades.
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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, February 7, 2005 11:56 AM
Amtrak has never been viable, but that's never really been the issue. Doubtful Bush's budget attempt to kill Amtrak will be sucessful. Nixon and Reagan tried to "zero out" Amtrak many times in the past and never succeeded. Suspect Amtrak will get almost what they need to struggle through another year.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 11:27 AM
President Bush, in his $ 2.75 trillion budget proposal has sounded the death knell for Amtrak with the elimination of the $ 1.2 billion annual subsidy. This is long overdue as Amtrak has not been viable for the last several years, I'm not sure that the wole endeavour wasn't still born at conception.

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