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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:14 PM

Front door. 

  

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, May 21, 2024 8:55 PM

Still getting 504s but got to this posting by a back door!!

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, May 20, 2024 4:31 PM

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It's been hit-and-miss for me today. Sometimes I can get in and post, then for awhile it's not working.

Ditto

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, May 20, 2024 3:11 PM

It's been hit-and-miss for me today. Sometimes I can get in and post, then for awhile it's not working.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, May 20, 2024 3:00 PM

Looks like a slow death of frustration and dysfunctionslity.

Paraphrasing the Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch,

"This Forum is no more.'

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, May 20, 2024 11:44 AM

Got a 504 trying to write a comment on News wire this morning around 0800.

EDIT got a unhandled error trying to post this comment after 37 seconds.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, May 20, 2024 11:39 AM

Got a 504 trying to write a comment on News wire this morning around 0800.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, May 20, 2024 11:14 AM

I get both the full screen 504 error and a pop-up window with buttons to "wait" or "exit the page."

It took over 15 minutes to scroll these three pages.  

After 23 years, this is aggravating.  This is the last railroad forum I actively participate, when it lets me log on, the two local ones have had server crashes that they never (so far) recovered from.  

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, May 20, 2024 9:56 AM

Same here, took a while for the site to come up, but was working when it finally did. Had one experiene over the weekend where the site would come up, but timed out when seecting a thread. Got a lot of 504's over the weekend.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 20, 2024 6:57 AM

Slow, but it's working...

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 19, 2024 8:55 PM

Slow, but it's working...

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Posted by rluke on Sunday, May 19, 2024 8:35 PM

Never had a problem before.  But it's now happening to me.  Took a couple of tries to get on the forum tonight.

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, May 19, 2024 10:48 AM

By about 10:30 Central Sun 19 May things have progressed to what BaltACD observed last week: consistent 14-second-plus delays between pages, with the occasional 'forgot to load the request' issue.  Notably not getting any white-page 504s or 'this site is temporarily available' messages, but the annoying delay between buffered text being typed on an iPhone keyboard and actually showing up on screen is getting ridiculous.

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Posted by diningcar on Sunday, May 19, 2024 10:30 AM

Me too, really frustrating.

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, May 19, 2024 8:17 AM

blue streak 1
Definiterly 504 is back as of Sunday 0600.  hope IT can fix.  This post just by luck!

More frequently I am getting a 'this site can't be reached' followed several seconds later with what I requested.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, May 19, 2024 5:01 AM

Definiterly 504 is back as of Sunday 0600.  hope IT can fix.  This post just by luck!

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, May 18, 2024 3:10 PM

BaltACD
My son is coaching a girls soccer team for his daughter and others.  They have a Facebook location and they stream the games from a semi-fixed cell phone camera. A lot of people use Facebook for a lot of activities.

On Facebook, there are many rail sites, such as Passenger Train Enthusiasts I and sites for specific railroads. Pictures are easy to post directly.

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Posted by NDG on Saturday, May 18, 2024 2:50 PM

Sad to Hear.

 

Thank You.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, May 18, 2024 12:00 PM

This site may be going to another 504 incidents.  Every slected posting is now giving a "HMM cannot reach site" for about 10 -14 seconds the finally connects.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:57 PM

tree68
As much as some people hate Facebook - there are pages there for a variety of topics, including railroads.  Come up with a suitable name, pick a couple of people to be mods/etc and let her rip.

My son is coaching a girls soccer team for his daughter and others.  They have a Facebook location and they stream the games from a semi-fixed cell phone camera.

A lot of people use Facebook for a lot of activities.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:51 PM

As much as some people hate Facebook - there are pages there for a variety of topics, including railroads.  Come up with a suitable name, pick a couple of people to be mods/etc and let her rip.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:20 PM

zugmann
You just volunteer yourself for head of the committee? 

If there are enough that would have me.

I could also host one or more servers if they sell them 'provisioned'.  I have a five-room office I only use two rooms of, fully wired for Cat 6e and emergency power...

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 4:14 PM

Overmod
I think by sometime first week in July, we all exchange such e-mail addresses here as we might want to use to contact each other....

I'd shoot middle of June, myself.  If it lasts that long...

You just volunteer yourself for head of the committee? 

  

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 3:39 PM

For more context:

Steve Otte
The Forums are currently hosted on a physical server that's housed in a building that has been sold to a third party and must be vacated by July 15. Firecrown's purchase of MR, Trains, and the other magazines did not include these servers. Firecrown does everything "in the cloud" using services like Google. So the three options are: 1) launch a new Forum with new software; 2) ditch the Forum altogether; or 3) copy the current buggy Forum to another server in the cloud somewhere. Now, I'm not privy to Firecrown's internal planning, but if I had to guess I would think those three options are arranged in decreasing order of probability.

In theory, the part of the forum 'framework' that can access, format, and serve past posts could be ported to an appropriate VM in the cloud.  But this might not have the exquisite back-end opportunities that the Telligent platform offered.  Might be different if there was still access to the original install or configuration package...

I think by sometime first week in July, we all exchange such e-mail addresses here as we might want to use to contact each other....

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 2:06 PM

Over on the model side, Steve Otte says the building that houses the servers has to be vacated by July 15th.   

 

So unless Firecrown decides to start their own forums (I wouldn't bet on it), this place is almost dead on the law.  Shall we meet in 5 years under the clock at Grand Central?

  

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 10:17 AM

samfp1943
Those were certainly different times, and those times are missed;  as is seen by, the drop in FORUM participation......

Very true!

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 7:10 PM

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Backshop

You're missing my point.  I'm talking about articles with executives and when they pushed EHH.  When's the last time that they had an actual "get out there and do it" article like JDI and DPM used to do? You can tell that their current product isn't working.  Just compare the paperstock used on Trains vs that on TRP. They got sold because they hit the iceberg and needed a rescue ship.

My thoughts exactly.  The last issue of "Trains" I saw had 54 or so pages.  My most recent issue of "R&R" from WRP has 82 and with the weight of the paper stock it feels like 100.

A couple of other Posters on this Thred have mentioned it, as well: 

The Moderation.   In the past, some of the Moderators have veen 'envolved'...

They seemed to participate, in discussions, the were available, the would respond, and they seemed to hold ratonal positions, as to the discussions that took place; Diuscuyssions tghat were wide-ranging at times.    

   Most of the ' regulars' knew who the 'agitators' were; as well as, who the one's who could hold an 'adult conversation', without use of ' ad hominem' assaults. 

 In other words The Moderator's, MDERATED!!   They werer good at their tasks, and were all pretty well liked, even after they dropped oiut of their offiucial roles of mederation......  Those were certainly different times, and those times are missed;  as is seen by, the drop in FORUM participation......My 2 Cents

 

 


 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 4:09 PM

Backshop

You're missing my point.  I'm talking about articles with executives and when they pushed EHH.  When's the last time that they had an actual "get out there and do it" article like JDI and DPM used to do? You can tell that their current product isn't working.  Just compare the paperstock used on Trains vs that on TRP. They got sold because they hit the iceberg and needed a rescue ship.

 

My thoughts exactly.  The last issue of "Trains" I saw had 54 or so pages.  My most recent issue of "R&R" from WRP has 82 and with the weight of the paper stock it feels like 100. 

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Posted by Backshop on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 3:53 PM

You're missing my point.  I'm talking about articles with executives and when they pushed EHH.  When's the last time that they had an actual "get out there and do it" article like JDI and DPM used to do? You can tell that their current product isn't working.  Just compare the paperstock used on Trains vs that on TRP. They got sold because they hit the iceberg and needed a rescue ship.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 1:56 PM

Backshop

I think the content of Trains magazine itself may have something to do with it.  It has turned into an industry-lite news article mag.  WRP has more interesting magazines for railfans.

 
I have been reading TRAINS regularly since 1967 with a few scattered issues before that and it has always been more than just a railfan magazine.  The very first issue that I purchased in July 1965 had a leadoff story in "News and Editorial Comment" covering the introduction of EMD's 645 line, a nice historical story about Rio Grande's Monarch branch and an analysis of NYC's New York suburban service.  In later issues, there was a two-part story covering history, operations and analysis of the Belt Railway of Chicago.  And the list goes on.  Apparently, the younger enthusiasts don't want anything too serious.
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