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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, July 5, 2024 6:04 PM

I 'seem' to get 504's on my first attempt of the day.  After I 'finally' make a successful attempt the site 'seems' to work at the speed that is comparable other sites I visit.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, July 5, 2024 5:38 PM

Had 504 messages again this mornig all threads.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:35 PM

Right now for me, the forum is responding faster than I can remember.  Hope?

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:27 PM

Someone deleted or corrupted a key part of the Telligent software installation, perhaps when moving the servers out of the building that has to be vacated by July 15th.

Based on what Mr. Otte and others had said, I was worried 'this was the end' because Kalmbach had no way to reinstall the missing files.  The site went from the DLL error to a by-now-normal 504, and since the site is back up I presume they were successful at restoring from backup.

During the outage I did a little research to see if a repository or organization had access to the missing files.  It turns out that the current version of the successor package (Verint Community 13, current 2024) has a full suite of online videos on how to install, configure, and administer it -- just what Firecrown needs to use to assure compatibility with 'legacy' post information and other data.  We can all use it, too, to understand what the forum software does and what options it can be set up to have.

https://community.telligent.com/p/all-documentation

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:12 PM

I got the same error over at least a 12 hour period - looked like some files were missing from the Windows server hosting the website, notably the ".dll" files needed for applications to run. Got a 504 error when trying to post a few hours ago.

Update: No 504 error when posting and response was quick.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 6:47 PM

I have never seen a message like the one yesterday. Does IT have any idea?  Suggest that if any of these items happen again a message on News Wire might be appropriate.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 4:16 PM

BaltACD

Got a different type error the afternoon of 6/25

 

Yes, Bizarro World

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:17 PM

Got a different type error the afternoon of 6/25

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Posted by railfanjohn on Monday, June 24, 2024 11:08 PM

69.    

Hired out with Southern Railway (Trainman) 1977.

SRy. became Norfolk Southern 1982.

Promoted to Locomotive Fireman 1984.

Promoted to Locomotive Engineer 1985.

Left NS 1997.  20 years service.

Saw reduction in train crew from up to 5 down to as few as 2.

Saw elimination of cabooses.

Saw Southern Railway join AMTRAK.

Began drawing Railroad Retirement 2022.

 

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Sunday, June 23, 2024 10:45 PM

I remember you wrote that QST has gone on-line only after over 100 years of publication. The Internet Archive has collection of older QST issues, got a kick out of seeing a picture of Don Wallace (W6AM  SK) in a mid 1920's issue as I had met him in person a few times and had a neighbor (W6ID also SK) who met him at a 1924 convention.

Reading a paper document is usually less stressful than reading on-line, though large 4k or 5k monitors plus gigabit fiber optic connection does make reading on-line a lot more tolerable.

Books still seem to be going strong, though books are much less focused on news than magazines.With websites, news can be delivered almost instantly, whereas a monthly magazine may have a month or more turnaround time.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, June 23, 2024 6:37 PM

Erik_Mag
Was a bit distressing to see how thin MR is getting, and also disconcerting to see the index of advertisers. OTOH, I'm seeing the same thing in a lot of other magazines.

It's a common phenomenon across pretty much all magazines, and a good many have given up the ghost entirely.  A magazine that comes with my membership in an organization has gone entirely on-line.  I haven't bothered to check it out since it did.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Sunday, June 23, 2024 5:46 PM

For nostalgia's sake, I've picked up the June and July issues of MR in part to get the last one with the Kalmbach masthead - I have my father-in-laws first 10 to 12 volumes of MR along with a ragged June 1964 issue of MR that my parents bought for me.

Was a bit distressing to see how thin MR is getting, and also disconcerting to see the index of advertisers. OTOH, I'm seeing the same thing in a lot of other magazines.

Forum seems to be pretty snappy at the moment, though it is having a bit of a problem with page numbers on this thread.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, June 23, 2024 12:20 PM

OWTX
names that got let go

Now THAT we won't know until the post-Firecrown purchase publications show up with the new mastheads.  There's names I HOPE I don't see.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, June 23, 2024 11:23 AM

NKP guy
(I look at that number and can't believe it actually applies to me.)

Same here - 73.

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Posted by OWTX on Sunday, June 23, 2024 10:33 AM

Still in the blaming the people who got let go stage. Eventually somebody will have to decide whether to punt the forums or pay for the fix.

Pro tip - remove any names that got let go when submitting their plan for approval by the new bosses.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:53 AM

A mere youth, I'm only 71.  Incidentally, the only mainline steam that I remember was NKP 2-8-4's.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:53 AM

A few more yungens like Overmod and Zugmann and Tree plus elders Balt and Dave K.

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Posted by adkrr64 on Saturday, June 22, 2024 6:30 PM

59, turning 60 in August

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Saturday, June 22, 2024 4:47 PM

  83

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Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, June 22, 2024 2:16 PM

I'm 76. 

 

(I look at that number and can't believe it actually applies to me.)

 

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, June 22, 2024 12:33 PM

I'll be 70 in October.

I'm ~5 years too young to have any memories of mainline steam, but old enough to remember dozens of class 1's, pre-Amtrak passenger trains and loose car freight. There is generally less variety in the industry with the possible exception of comuter rail.

Dramatic changes in the industry pre-date my existence in this world, with one example of Lucius Beebe's Mixed Train Daily documenting aspects of railroading that was rapidly disappearing after the end of WW2.

Having said that, what got me hooked on reaading Trains was the article about the D&H high pressure experimentals in the June 1967 issue of Trains. I also get a kick out of reading the old issues of Trains in the magazine archives, e.g. the article on the East Broad Top written when it was still a going concern in 1941.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, June 22, 2024 11:42 AM

I'll be 71 in August.

For what it's worth the current editor of "Classic Toy Trains" Rene Schweitzer says there's no plans to drop the various former Kalmbach Forums. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, June 22, 2024 11:36 AM

We could survey the dozen or so of us lingerers?  

I'm 77.

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Posted by diningcar on Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:47 AM

charlie hebdo
maybe well north.

Does 92 apply?

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, June 22, 2024 9:53 AM

tree68
The lack of activity predates the current accessibility issues.  As has been mentioned, a lot of the old timers have passed on or moved on.  And most of them were very active.  And users come and go on any forum.   

Very true. The Trains fora are populated (in terms of posts) by a handful of old timers.  I suspect the median age is north of 70, maybe well north.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 21, 2024 5:30 PM

charlie hebdo
Looking at the Trains Forum this morning shows it is pretty moribund in terms of activity, even though it is working well.

The lack of activity predates the current accessibility issues.  As has been mentioned, a lot of the old timers have passed on or moved on.  And most of them were very active.  And users come and go on any forum.   

Charlie Hebdo
Time to pull the plug?
I wouldn't go that far, as long as the fora are kept on-line.  With so many options for on-line activity (FB, Instagram, the list goes on) it may be difficult to re-harness users.  Some promotion in the magazines, newsletters, etc., might help.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, June 21, 2024 10:56 AM

charlie hebdo
Looking at the Trains Forum this morning shows it is pretty moribund in terms of activity, even though it is working well.  

Time to pull the plug?

It is working, but is far from well.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 21, 2024 10:51 AM

At least it works some/most of the time.

Ham radio's "Logbook of the World" got hacked several weeks ago and still isn't back on-line.  It's one of the tools hams use to keep track of their contacts.  Dissatisfaction with management is much stronger there than it is here, trust me.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Friday, June 21, 2024 9:57 AM

Not sure if it is time to pull the plug as the website was being erratic a couple of minutes ago. It almost made it to a 504 timeout before responding - I minimized the waste of time by making use of browser tabs to read another website during the time to respond.

Edit (12 hours later): Website came up promptly, but wondering if I jinxed things by writing that....

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