afternoon
Nice outside.Ns had some cars uptown.Great Nephew is just leaving for Toledo for his birthday party.Going to get some stuff for weekend project.Mother nature might rain on us tomorrow.Other chores to do.
stay safe
joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
I hope they clean that stuff off the tracks piling-haste! That may have awakened a few people...
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
got some rain.Very muggy.Ns ran a westbound stack train after work.Mamma says order out for supper.Going to go fetch.
Now you know why railroaders don't take rubber-tired highway bubbas at their word.
What still strikes me as funny is that this has happened before (114 years ago) at or very close to the same spot.
"OOPS!" ain't gonna cut it here.
mudchickenmultiple assurances that UP would not be harmed.
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
https://youtu.be/iMcu4AefhhY
City of Glenwood Springs and CDOT find new (and dramatic) way to delay Amtrak 5 & 6
Don't blame the Yellow Peril for being pissed about this. Wiped out the main track and the siding after multiple assurances that UP would not be harmed.
Norm
Was north of the border on Sunday.Pen pal was looking around the area to get pictures.He wanted to get a train running under the catenary on the former DT&I.I haven't heard if he was succesful or not.He said he was going to Chicago today.Going back to the west coast Friday.Off to work we go.
Joe,
Migrate about 100 miles north. The 'Big Ponds' make a lot of difference in mitigating weather changes.
Muggy here in Nw Ohio.Ns was clear when I left work.Matt went uptown and mowed.Csx sent an eastbound ethanol train.chores to do here at home.
Joe
Mookiea very nice, newer home in south Lincoln - blew up - whole house! Badly injured 2 people;
Still very critical.
Murphy Sidingfor some reason, the house's basement then filled up with propane.
The leaking gas probably just followed the tubing into the house. Propane is heavier than air and will seek out low areas - something firefighters are aware of and treat accordingly.
Natural gas is lighter than air, thus will fill a structure, or simply dissapate if there is nothing to hold it.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
I remember the Gas Utility commercial that had the jingle, "GAS DOES THE BIG JOB'S BETTER." To which the electric utility workers would always add, "BOOM"
tree68The news article I read indicated that there were several dig permits issued in the area recently. I would opine that an underground leak which found its way into the house in question might well have been sufficiently filtered of its odorant to be less detectable.
Reminiscent of an Allentown PA explosion a few years ago that Paul North supplied some insight on, seepage into a residence from (if I recall) a failing line external to the structure.
A few years back, a utility crew in a small town near us cut an underground pipe between a propane tank and a house. When they saw what they had done, they packed up and left, apparently hoping no one would notice. for some reason, the house's basement then filled up with propane. When the furnace or water heater kicked on the house blew up. Every 4 or 5 years a house blows up in a rural area in these parts due to propane. They are usually leveled.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Mookie I can't believe if it was nat gas, why didn't someone smell it? ... Sounded like both people were "older" - any thoughts you care to share?
Here's a little fact of which I was unaware until my brother's motorhome blew up nine years ago: older folks have diminished ability to smell the mercaptan odorant added to natural gas or propane. Also, the odorants will react with iron and weaken and it is common practice in commissioning new gas lines to introduce a higher concentration of odorant at the beginning to "season" the lines, as it were. Propane that has rested for several years in a steel tank will lose a lot of its odor.
The motorhome was blown apart but the three people inside survived, though there followed some serious hospital time for each of them. I learned a lot of stuff from dealing with the aftermath that frankly I could have just as soon not. At least my sister's motorhome gas detector was repaired as a result of that little event.
I would hazard a guess that older folks should have an explosive gas detector installed, which of course I don't, but should.
MookieTell me what I missed...
Briefly, two British sci-fi geeks end up in the company of an alien who's been captive at a top secret base since his ship crashed here in the late 1940's. Hilarty ensues. At one point, the alien (Paul) decides he has to go back to the place he crashed and make amends with the woman (a little girl at the time) who rescued him from his spacecraft. Of course, she's a virtual hermit, as no one believes her story.
In the course of visit, she offers to make tea for her visitors and turns on the gas stove to boil the water. Before she can actually light the stove, however, the federal agents who have been chasing Paul arrive. More hilarity ensues, culminating with one of the agents thinking he's got a clear shot at the escaping Paul from inside the house. He pulls the trigger of his pistol, resulting in the total destruction of the house...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1092026/
tree68 Mookie And - still think it was natural gas, but not from an outside source. Have you seen the movie "Paul"?
Mookie And - still think it was natural gas, but not from an outside source.
Have you seen the movie "Paul"?
Tell me what I missed...
Update on house explosion in Lincoln yesterday. Elderly couple in critical condition.
43 houses were damaged. 19 structurally not sound enough to live in. And - still think it was natural gas, but not from an outside source. Something in the house set it off - as of now. It truly looks like a plane flew over it and dropped a bomb. Something went terribly wrong!
Ns local was uptown when I left work.Meeting in Deshler tonight.Might be able to wave for a couple trains.
MookieAnd one time, the gas co cut their own line.
This is a problem in most older cities - knowing exactly where the underground utilities are. We know they are there - but two feet in the wrong direction can make a huge difference. And the records may be very fuzzy, if they exist at all.
Kinda like what MC has to deal with...
Cutting a home service gas line is far different from cutting a main. Gas pipelines may carry pressures of 1000 PSI or more. The pressure at your home gas range is a mere 1/4 PSI. Service lines may range from 60 PSI down to 1/4 PSI.
tree68 Mookie maybe he can tell me what would cause that kind of explosion. It could well have been natural gas. Even though it's odorized, it's possible to become desensitized to said odor. That's one of the dangers with perfume - at some point the wearer can't smell it any more, so they add more, much to the chagrin of those around them... NG is lighter than air, the odorant is actually heavier. There have been cases of NG leaks where the gas dissipates, but the odorant falls out of the air, causing great concern to those downwind. The news article I read indicated that there were several dig permits issued in the area recently. I would opine that an underground leak which found its way into the house in question might well have been sufficiently filtered of its odorant to be less detectable. Once the house is full of gas, all it takes is for something (like an electronic igniter) to set it off. And in situations like this, the building is generally levelled, as was this one.
Mookie maybe he can tell me what would cause that kind of explosion.
It could well have been natural gas. Even though it's odorized, it's possible to become desensitized to said odor. That's one of the dangers with perfume - at some point the wearer can't smell it any more, so they add more, much to the chagrin of those around them...
NG is lighter than air, the odorant is actually heavier. There have been cases of NG leaks where the gas dissipates, but the odorant falls out of the air, causing great concern to those downwind.
The news article I read indicated that there were several dig permits issued in the area recently. I would opine that an underground leak which found its way into the house in question might well have been sufficiently filtered of its odorant to be less detectable.
Once the house is full of gas, all it takes is for something (like an electronic igniter) to set it off. And in situations like this, the building is generally levelled, as was this one.
all in all - just another pipeline failure.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
See - I knew you would have a logical explanation! And they are installing fiber optic all around the city, so, seriously - almost every day - the gas co is called to an oops, we dug it up and broke it. This one is really going to get expensive for someone. Up to this time, the LFD got right on it and either evacuated everyone in the hot area or got the gas co there in time to take care of it. And one time, the gas co cut their own line.
Mookiemaybe he can tell me what would cause that kind of explosion.
evening
Day 2 with pen pal.Went to Carey,Bucyrus and Marion.Plenty of Tonka toys and CSX sent a geometry train on the C&O.Pen pal is going to adventure back out tomorrow.I have to go back to work.Time to get cleaned up.
Well! In the land of no excitement - had a 3 car get together about 1/4 of a block from our house - in the intersection. I heard it loud and clear up here on the 2nd floor. Fortunately the fire dept is right there. Unfortunately the engine and the medic were out on a call, which left the city's biggest ladder truck to do the honors. I can't see thru the trees, but wonder if they pulled the truck out of the garage, parked it on the driveway and ran to the middle of the street.
Just wonderin'.
And about an hour after that - a very nice, newer home in south Lincoln - blew up - whole house! Badly injured 2 people; ammo was exploding when fire fighters arrived; damaged at least half of the neighborhood houses - across, next to and behind house in question. (I have a scanner) According to video, there is nothing left to know it was a house.
So if Balt is done examining Tree's head - maybe he can tell me what would cause that kind of explosion. I can't believe if it was nat gas, why didn't someone smell it? If it was gun powder - someone boo-boo'd? Sounded like both people were "older" - any thoughts you care to share?
tree68Well, you get to see that back of my head, anyhow (I was running the SW1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e60siq1YXSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e60siq1YXSo
And what a head!
morning
Day 2 with pen pal.Having a good time.Yesterday we were surrounded in Deshler by trains.Matt needs to get his camera bag.Will keep you posted.
Well, you get to see that back of my head, anyhow (I was running the SW1):
good morning
Yep Csx was jammed up north of Lima.We also had a great time at the reception.Matt found a corner window spot where we could see Csx come into town.Off to Deshler to meet pen pal.If you see me on the web cam I'll try to wave.
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