I seem to remember that in the last year or two there were some complaints that the moderators were too quick to lock or delete threads that had uncivil or off-topic content. Be careful what you wish for.
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gardendancethe indecent thread is not mine, I'm not in charge of its title.
Lo and behold! so it ain't. PM sent appropriately. Sorry.
the indecent thread is not mine, I'm not in charge of its title.
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gardendanceit looks fixed on my screen and looked fixed around 9am eastern time, "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"
It's the other one, the 'indecent' one, that's uncorrected. In fact, as I write this, it still shows the deflicted code. i'd have PMed you if I had thought about it first.
... "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"
Posthaste
ChessieCat123 I know what the problem is- A certain person and persons had a personality conflict with me off forum at train club that I was part of and is obssesed with getting back at me even though I have not been active at that club for a # of years but continues to bad mouth me at other railroad clubs even to the point of writing letters and making harrasing phone calls to my job and college. "Its like the you will never work on Broadway again"-- Well this staulker wants to make sure that I never get involved with orgonized railfanning again. I know who he is and am considering legal options.
I know what the problem is- A certain person and persons had a personality conflict with me off forum at train club that I was part of and is obssesed with getting back at me even though I have not been active at that club for a # of years but continues to bad mouth me at other railroad clubs even to the point of writing letters and making harrasing phone calls to my job and college. "Its like the you will never work on Broadway again"-- Well this staulker wants to make sure that I never get involved with orgonized railfanning again. I know who he is and am considering legal options.
Ray, I'm sure your problem goes far beyond any single off forum personality conflict. I also met you and I had several personality conflicts even before I met, through our emails and phone calls, and several more the day we met.
I've had posts in this thread asking why I defend you. I don't think I defend you, I think I've criticized you, but at the same time have questioned why other people have tried to claim that you drive forum users away. You've certainly driven me away from ever wanting to meet you or communicate off forum again, but you in no way influence my desire to stay in this forum.
I would have defended your right to post what you wanted, up till when you got your login suspended. I do not defend you having recreated several other logins to resurrect yourself after the administrators suspended you. But your taking advantage of this loophole also does not rise to such an irritation level that it influences my desire to stay in this forum.
Wizlish gardendance I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself. If it's that simple, why is it that as of 11:00 Central this morning you still haven't fixed it?
gardendance I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself.
If it's that simple, why is it that as of 11:00 Central this morning you still haven't fixed it?
it looks fixed on my screen and looked fixed around 9am eastern time, "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"
tree68 What's sad is that threads like this will go on for weeks, while many discussions on railroad subjects die an untimely death...
What's sad is that threads like this will go on for weeks, while many discussions on railroad subjects die an untimely death...
What do you consider an untimely death? The only thing I can think is untimely is if someone asks a question and gets no answer. On the other hand if someone makes a statement that shouldn't in itself require a response. For example, if a post says "I think Amtrak is the best national passenger railway system the US has" I see nothing wrong with that being the last post in the thread.
If you feel a thread has met an untimely death, what stops you from adding another post to it?
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
from the indecent thread http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252512.aspx?page=2
Murphy Siding gardendance M636C Let's just not use apostrophes in thread titles until the forum software can cope with it... It's just tough to remember not to use proper punctuation, especially when it looks fine when composing, and the bad effect only manifests after submitting the post, and then it's too late to fix it. I don't know how to change a title after the thread's created. Edit button, lower right hand corner of your post will do the trick.
gardendance
M636C
Let's just not use apostrophes in thread titles until the forum software can cope with it...
It's just tough to remember not to use proper punctuation, especially when it looks fine when composing, and the bad effect only manifests after submitting the post, and then it's too late to fix it. I don't know how to change a title after the thread's created.
Edit button, lower right hand corner of your post will do the trick.
Mookie That's it? We have these vastly interesting postings going on and that's all you can add? Sigh
That's it? We have these vastly interesting postings going on and that's all you can add? Sigh
Murphy, don't let Mookie upset you so much that you go away. I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself.
I'm not so grateful that I want to increase your thread's reply count. The whose thread's more popular race is still on.
Convicted one, I wasn't asking just for me, but for everyone else's educamation as well. Won't you think of the children?
gardendanceCan you be clearer, what is it that you think was the trollish comment,
I am quite certain that the individual I am speaking of knows full well that I was talking about them. If you do NOT have 100% certainty that I was talking about you, then there is a very good chance that I was talking about someone else.
Euclid I have always liked dozers and other earthmoving equipment. Here is a Euclid dozer (built by GM Euclid Division) powered by two GM 671, 2-cycle diesel engines with Roots blowers. It was a pretty futuristic looking for a dozer, but this was from the 1950s when the world wanted to be “modern.” Designers always say they want cars to look like they are moving when they are standing still. I always felt that bulldozers should look like they are standing sill when they are moving. But this Euclid model looks amazingly aerodynamic for a dozer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFkNyq65v7U But I chose the names here of Euclid and Bucyrus not on the basis of their connection to equipment, but just because they sound like they could be a first name or a last name. They are good names for cats (felines.)
"I Often Dream of Trains"-From the Album of the Same Name by Robyn Hitchcock
gardendance Euclid Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.
Euclid Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.
Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.
I didn't mean to say that the Enterprise should be hauling garbage, I meant to say that it should be hauled away as garbage.
dknelson Before I retired I practiced corporate law for 36 years. On a regular basis I dealt with those whose actual paid occupation was to goad and provoke and insult and do everything and anything possible in the hopes that I would react in an ill-advised manner. I would also say that I dealt every day with highly skilled individuals whose job it was to zealously advance the interests of their clients, so very real and very intense confrontation and heated argument was on the agenda every day. The worst of the annoying posters and trolls on the internet including these Forums were and are amateurs compared to the folks I refer to. I cannot imagine anyone's postings here getting to me to the extent I would take my bat and ball and go home. Having said that, please don't try! Dave Nelson
Before I retired I practiced corporate law for 36 years. On a regular basis I dealt with those whose actual paid occupation was to goad and provoke and insult and do
everything and anything possible in the hopes that I would react in an ill-advised manner. I would also say that I dealt every day with highly skilled individuals
whose job it was to zealously advance the interests of their clients, so very real and very intense confrontation and heated argument was on the agenda every day.
The worst of the annoying posters and trolls on the internet including these Forums were and are amateurs compared to the folks I refer to. I cannot imagine anyone's
postings here getting to me to the extent I would take my bat and ball and go home.
Having said that, please don't try!
Dave Nelson
Were the people paid to goad and provoke and insult you the same as the highly skilled people who zealously advanced their clients' interests?
I assume when you say 'amateur' you mean something other than 'paid' vs 'unpaid'. One hopes that the annoying posters and trolls here don't get paid for what they do.
Conspiracy theorists might try to say that some trolls are paid. Isn't it possible the 'I fear they'll drive decent folks away' people are wrong, and some high priced internet consultant has figured that sites with troll controversy get more hits than those with staid, polite, intelligent discussions? Does reality TV get more viewers than PBS?
zugmann gardendance I'm more bothered when I comment to tell folks that they don't bother me and get a response directed to me that says I'm an idiot. Why are you letting the post bother you? Take your own advice and ignore it. Nobody has to post here. I've posted here for a long time because I wanted to and found it enjoyable. It's not as fun anymore and I don't participate like I used to. I know you don't care, and maybe nobody else on here cares either. So be it. It's no skin off my back to stop contributing. I'm sure the forum will be better off. I'm not going to bother if this thing is just another facebook-esque forum with such thought-provoking posts like "I shoudn't drink and post" and other crap that has nothing to do with the forum subject at hand. Defend it all you want, I don't care. So maybe in the end his posts are going to just drive me away. Oh well. That's my opinion.
I'm more bothered when I comment to tell folks that they don't bother me and get a response directed to me that says I'm an idiot.
Why are you letting the post bother you? Take your own advice and ignore it.
Nobody has to post here. I've posted here for a long time because I wanted to and found it enjoyable. It's not as fun anymore and I don't participate like I used to.
I know you don't care, and maybe nobody else on here cares either. So be it. It's no skin off my back to stop contributing. I'm sure the forum will be better off.
I'm not going to bother if this thing is just another facebook-esque forum with such thought-provoking posts like "I shoudn't drink and post" and other crap that has nothing to do with the forum subject at hand. Defend it all you want, I don't care. So maybe in the end his posts are going to just drive me away. Oh well.
That's my opinion.
I generally do take my own advice, I get slightly bothered, I ignore the posts, then pretty much forget about them. As I've tried to mention already, I did let myself get bothered enough in the past to leave one website, of course to its great loss an detriment, I'm sure I really hurt them, but trains.com's not much different from that other site, so 'take my ball and go home' doesn't work for me. I don't think I'm letting the "you're an idiot" posts bother me much, just more than any of Chessicat's posts, or anyone else whose posts are not actual insults.
Once again though you've mentioned 'defend' him. I don't think I'm defending him. I've said it before, I don't like him. I didn't like him much before I met him, I like him far less since I've met him. I just don't think his irritation could lead to the decent poster dearth you fear, but I'm aksing for others' opinions about if they feel it would make them leave.
I feel you're splitting hairs, there's no diffence between "I decided not to participate because I didn't like this other guy's posts" and "this other guy's posts made me quit".
F3A And there is always the Heil Dump Truck: http://www.heil.com/ http://www.cherokeetruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/GDOT-Heil-South-Dump-1.jpg
And there is always the Heil Dump Truck:
http://www.heil.com/
http://www.cherokeetruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/GDOT-Heil-South-Dump-1.jpg
1st link = Garbage truck
I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.
I don't have a leg to stand on.
Norm
Here is an interesting site:
http://divco.org/
Couldn't you have liked rainbow flags and unicorns instead?
carnej1I know this is off topic but here's a link to a coll video of a Vintage Bucyrus-Erie 22 B power shovel loading an old Euclid off road rock truck:
Couldn't have said it better, but it'll go over someone's head. Reading comprehension class begins in five minutes.
I know this is off topic but here's a link to a cool video of a Vintage Bucyrus-Erie 22 B power shovel loading an old Euclid off road rock truck:
https://youtu.be/l9cJQYiT2bs
schlimm Euclid This thread seems to be the county seat of innuendo. Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave. Being driven off this forum is always an injury claimed by someone still on the forum in reference to someone who has left. There is no way that the charge can be refuted except by the person who was allegedly driven off, and that person is not available to testify as to why they left. It is a means of guilt tripping individuals still on the forum by accusing them of injuring the entire forum by depriving it of virtuous members. I recall a member who made a rather dramatic exit (a farewell forever style departure, deleting all his posts) only to return a month later.
Euclid This thread seems to be the county seat of innuendo. Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave. Being driven off this forum is always an injury claimed by someone still on the forum in reference to someone who has left. There is no way that the charge can be refuted except by the person who was allegedly driven off, and that person is not available to testify as to why they left. It is a means of guilt tripping individuals still on the forum by accusing them of injuring the entire forum by depriving it of virtuous members.
I recall a member who made a rather dramatic exit (a farewell forever style departure, deleting all his posts) only to return a month later.
Who are you referring to? I don't recall anyone who fits that description. Please clarify.
schlimmI recall a member who made a rather dramatic exit (a farewell forever style departure, deleting all his posts) only to return a month later.
"I remember it well" as the lyrics to an old song once said. New name, same old drivel.
Euclid It’s just one more clever way of blaming someone on the forum for not agreeing with you.
That kinda depends. If a poster is not a firefighter, but insist on telling me (a firefighter for nearly 40 years) that something I'm saying just has to be wrong because they don't understand it, or otherwise have no knowledge of it, or are just being contrary, why should I be forced to agree with them?
And when they go on the attack to prove that their misguided concept is correct, yeah - I can understand why someone would say the heck with it.
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EuclidIt is a means of guilt tripping individuals still on the forum by accusing them of injuring the entire forum by depriving it of virtuous members.
There's usually plenty of evidence leading up to those virtuous member's departures. Not to mention PM's which do outline why people quit participating.
Besides, why would you want to give a troll a reason to gloat?
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