so called humor: decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?

[BigJim]

 so called humor: decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?.

No, but it is stupid posts like this ["Bomb Trains" threaten America's safety, according to report] that make me shake my head and make me wonder why people who are here just to stir up things up are allowed to post to this forum.
Drive me away? No, but, I have found it useless to try to reply to a rock. So, if something intelligent comes up that I thing I might be able to add to, I will do so.

[Anonymous]

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[Electroliner 1935]

Kinky.

[Convicted One]

zugmann

I still love ya, though.

 

That's what keeps me coming back.  

[Convicted One]

gardendance

Is sock puppet an insult?

 

Usually in the context it is used, yes.

 

It usually goes something like this: I say that the sky is blue, and you say the sky is green. If three more posters show up and side with you, I can dismiss all of them by declaring "sock puppet" and no longer have to worry about MY preferred outlook being a minority opinion.  Unless it's night time, of course.

[wanswheel]

[Norm48327]

Euclid

They always say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Upon closer examination, everything is in the eye of the beholder.  So being “driven off” is in the mind of the beholder. 

Being offended is in the mind of the offended.  That is why it is hard to ban offensive speech.  “Offensive” is a moving target depending on the person affected.  Lots of people want to gain the empowerment that comes from being a victim.  When you are a victim, you can demand redress.  So they make themselves easily offended to achieve their goal of victim status.  The slightest little thing will set them off.  The only problem is that although they gain power, they stick themselves with the burden of being a victim.

Being that it is physically impossible to for a person to drive another person off the forum, the only way a person can be driven off is to believe that he or she is being driven off by whoever they believe is persecuting them. 

You know what they always say:  If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a zebra acting like a duck.     

 

I didn't know you are a psychology major. What university are you teaching at?

[zugmann]

Euclid

They always say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Upon closer examination, everything is in the eye of the beholder.  So being “driven off” is in the mind of the beholder. 

Being offended is in the mind of the offended.  That is why it is hard to ban offensive speech.  “Offensive” is a moving target depending on the person affected.  Lots of people want to gain the empowerment that comes from being a victim.  When you are a victim, you can demand redress.  So they make themselves easily offended to achieve their goal of victim status.  The slightest little thing will set them off.  The only problem is that although they gain power, they stick themselves with the burden of being a victim.

Being that it is physically impossible to for a person to drive another person off the forum, the only way a person can be driven off is to believe that he or she is being driven off by whoever they believe is persecuting them. 

You know what they always say:  If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a zebra acting like a duck.     

 

 

And that's how Equestria was made. 

 

[Euclid]

They always say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Upon closer examination, everything is in the eye of the beholder.  So being “driven off” is in the mind of the beholder. 

Being offended is in the mind of the offended.  That is why it is hard to ban offensive speech.  “Offensive” is a moving target depending on the person affected.  Lots of people want to gain the empowerment that comes from being a victim.  When you are a victim, you can demand redress.  So they make themselves easily offended to achieve their goal of victim status.  The slightest little thing will set them off.  The only problem is that although they gain power, they stick themselves with the burden of being a victim.

Being that it is physically impossible to for a person to drive another person off the forum, the only way a person can be driven off is to believe that he or she is being driven off by whoever they believe is persecuting them. 

You know what they always say:  If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a zebra acting like a duck.     

[Murphy Siding]

Norm48327

 

 

Euclid

I have to agree that there is no absolute way of looking at this matter of being driven off. On one hand, “driven off” implies something outside of the driven doing the driving. But any person is equally capable of driving themselves off if they create the perception of an external driver in their own mind. Ultimately, that is the way reality works anyway. But if person “A” leaves because they decide to believe they are being driven off by person “B”, did person B really drive them off, or did person “A” simply drive off on their own and blame it on person “B”? Therefore, when I say you can’t be driven off if you have the power to stay, that is true unless you don’t believe that you have the power to stay.

 

 

Circular logic carried to it's highest form of perfection.

 

 With just a touch of Catch-22 in there don't you think?

[Norm48327]

Euclid

I have to agree that there is no absolute way of looking at this matter of being driven off. On one hand, “driven off” implies something outside of the driven doing the driving. But any person is equally capable of driving themselves off if they create the perception of an external driver in their own mind. Ultimately, that is the way reality works anyway. But if person “A” leaves because they decide to believe they are being driven off by person “B”, did person B really drive them off, or did person “A” simply drive off on their own and blame it on person “B”? Therefore, when I say you can’t be driven off if you have the power to stay, that is true unless you don’t believe that you have the power to stay.

Circular logic carried to it's highest form of perfection.

[gardendance]

Is sock puppet an insult? Whenever I hear it I think of some cute fluffy cuddly thing I want to hug.

[zugmann]

But I am superior to you.  I still love ya, though. 

[Convicted One]

Don't forget, if one person in particular posts things not to your liking, you can always  brand them as a "troll"  hopefully convincing yourself you are superior to them.

If MULTIPLE people post things not to your liking, you can always declare "sock puppet" and not feel quite so outnumbered.

[Euclid]

gardendance

 

Euclid

 

gardendance

 

 

Euclid

 

Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.

 

 

I feel you're splitting hairs, there's no diffence between "I decided not to participate because I didn't like this other guy's posts" and "this other guy's posts made me quit".

 

 

 

Those hairs do split clearly if you think about it.  There is no difference between your two examples of explanations for leaving the forum, yet neither one amounts to be “driven off” the forum.  The poster in your example decided by his/her own free will to leave the forum no matter what he/she cites as the reason.   

 

If you have the power to stay, you cannot be driven off.

 

 

 

 

That's like saying if someone's house is on fire since they have the power to stay inside and die the fire can't drive them off. As I reread the Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia thread I see a few posts I made where I said I'm not required to say if I'm going to leave, it's my choice. Just because I feel I can make the choice, and I feel nobody else can force me, doesn't mean that I expect everybody else to feel the same way. There may be others who get driven away, and it's not my place to say if their feelings aren't valid.

Euclid, as I reread your quoted post I realize I forgot to accuse you of expressing opinion as fact.

 

Patrick,

I have to agree that there is no absolute way of looking at this matter of being driven off.  On one hand, “driven off” implies something outside of the driven doing the driving.  But any person is equally capable of driving themselves off if they create the perception of an external driver in their own mind.  Ultimately, that is the way reality works anyway.

But if person “A” leaves because they decide to believe they are being driven off by person “B”, did person B really drive them off, or did person “A” simply drive off on their own and blame it on person “B”?  

Therefore, when I say you can’t be driven off if you have the power to stay, that is true unless you don’t believe that you have the power to stay.         

[Convicted One]

gardendance

could you please let us know if you're on the verge of getting driven away?

I considered leaving once, but I realized that would be giving some guys a break who don't deserve one, so I stayed - just for them.

[gardendance]

Why Schlimm, that's the nicest thing anyone's said about me for ages. It almost helps to keep from driving me away.

Seriously though, where are ANY examples to support your contention that ChessieCat123 "has taken to posting on almost every current thread"?

[schlimm]

Your posts are much akin to his.

[gardendance]

See what happens when you try to post when you're sleepy? I should have just clicked his profile. Other than the aforementioned innoffensive "Who names control points" post,  http://cs.trains.com/members/chessiecat123/default.aspx says the most recent time he posted IN SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD was 6 days ago.

[gardendance]

2 things are evident:

 I spend too much time on the internet. This time I could have spent better watching the insides of my eyelids.

 Schlimm, you are DEFINITELY exaggerating when you say ChessieCat123 posts on almost every current thread.

I looked at the last 5 pages of EVERY thread on general discussion's 1st page, and found only 1 thread that ChessieCat123 didn't originate in which he made any post.

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/130415.aspx?page=2 Who names control points? 
1 post, which I don't consider out of line "Which came first the control point name or the town name?" 
 
these other threads have none of ChessieCat123's posts in their most recent 5 pages

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/231186.aspx?page=38 Semi-official Rochelle webcam discussion thread
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252603.aspx What would it take?
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/214329.aspx?page=12 Perris Valley Line Updates (w/ Photos)
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252646.aspx Precision Scheduled Railroading
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/251689.aspx?page=5 Canadian Pacific Norfolk Southern Merger
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/250453.aspx?page=6 Chatterbox Fall 2015
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252575.aspx NS rejects CP bid
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252610.aspx NCDOT and UNC Charlotte Announce Rail Workforce Assessment Study
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252573.aspx China Lands Major Kenya Rail Contract
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252588.aspx ? again....
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/102777.aspx?page=16 Cajon Pass Triple-Tracking Updates (Plus Barstow-Daggett)
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/252399/2820236.aspx#2820236 Former GM Sound Expert Editorial on the VW Debacle
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252222.aspx Thoughts on eliminating the Chicago bottleneck
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252228.aspx Could have free-enterprise freight railroads survived without dieselization?
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/148958.aspx?page=14 The new and (not very) improved humor thread
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/248019.aspx Hyperloop
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252554.aspx Boston -- New York NEC Questions
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252496.aspx NS rail lines to become scrap and real estate holdings if CP takes over.
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/68570.aspx Litchfield and Madison Railway
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/205973.aspx?page=6#2819582 On This Day in Railroad History
 I only checked the last page on this one, since prior pages' posts were long before 
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252552.aspx Diamonds Under The Lights

[gardendance]

I assume you mean ChessieCat123. I don't read every thread, but of the threads I do read, for example this one he's posted 5 times, and in its evil twin the indecent thread he hasn't posted at all. I think you're exaggerating when you say "he has taken to posting on almost every current thread" Please give some examples.

Also are you trying to say that he'll drive you away?

[schlimm]

Most of us indicated we could ignore the subject of this thread.  However, he has taken to posting on almost every current thread making that increasingly difficult.   How much longer does this have to go on?   He's destroying whatever enjoyment was left of these forums on his way to oblivion.

[BigJim]

ACY

True story: When I was about 12 years old, the N&W was still operating steam locomotives. My friends and I were building a model railroad. As we worked, someone brought up the N&W and called it the North Fork & Western. He was living a rather sheltered life and had never heard of Norfolk, Virginia. I corrected him, and I was promptly told that there was no such place as Norfolk, that Norfolk was a stupid and meaningless name, and I was absolutely wrong. To prove his point, he called for a vote. Nobody else in the group had heard of Norfolk either, so Norfolk was voted down and the N&W became the North Fork & Western.

Tom,
My mother once told me that she and her sister were travelling on the train back to Roanoke from Cincinnatti. As they were passing through West Virginia, the Conductor came through the car announcing the next stop as North Fork. She then noticed that a couple of sailors got up to get off! Ooops!!!

[gardendance]

Euclid

 

gardendance

 

 

Euclid

 

Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.

 

 

I feel you're splitting hairs, there's no diffence between "I decided not to participate because I didn't like this other guy's posts" and "this other guy's posts made me quit".

 

 

 

Those hairs do split clearly if you think about it.  There is no difference between your two examples of explanations for leaving the forum, yet neither one amounts to be “driven off” the forum.  The poster in your example decided by his/her own free will to leave the forum no matter what he/she cites as the reason.   

 

If you have the power to stay, you cannot be driven off.

 

That's like saying if someone's house is on fire since they have the power to stay inside and die the fire can't drive them off. As I reread the Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia thread I see a few posts I made where I said I'm not required to say if I'm going to leave, it's my choice. Just because I feel I can make the choice, and I feel nobody else can force me, doesn't mean that I expect everybody else to feel the same way. There may be others who get driven away, and it's not my place to say if their feelings aren't valid.

Euclid, as I reread your quoted post I realize I forgot to accuse you of expressing opinion as fact.

[gardendance]

Now that I've discovered how to change my thread's title I can't stop. Gentle readers, in case you can't keep track, it was

"decent posters, will another poster's posts drive you away?"

someone asked if we could remove the apostrophe, since trains.com displays apostrophes as &something when in the title, someone nicely mentioned how to do it, I changed it to

"decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"

and the thank you we got was that we had fixed the apostrophe catastrophe. I don't care who you are, that's funny, and makes both of these threads worth the electrons they waste.

Now since my only purpose is to keep Schlimm happy, I've edited the title so it definitely warns folks that this is so called humor.

Thank you too for mentioning Murray. I was trying to remember who that was, and kept thinking of Murphy Siding. If I remember correctly the last we saw of Murray was 

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/247216.aspx Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia

Which I remember Murray started, which now has all his posts listed as 'anonymous'. We have no way to tell if Murray asked the moderators to remove his name, or if they did it for their own reasons. Or do we? Does anybody know the real scoop? Murray certainly made enough farewells that I can believe he might be a poster who got driven away.

[schlimm]

So now we have yet another of the so-called "humor" threads?  This is worse than the Eleanor one started by the late Murray.

[gardendance]

Would you be comfortable contemplating Squatty Body Marvin on a regular potty?

This is not the first time I've mentioned it in a railroad related forum, but decades ago I shared a swimming pool with Hugh Jenkins, a Reading-Conrail-Septa engineer. I was both repelled and enthralled by the canvas upon which they were presented and the many railroad tatoos he had.

Somehow I got over my repulsion, and just as the indecent posts don't stop me from participating in trains.com, the many endangered marine mammals I still see at public swimming areas do not prevent me from going swimming.

[Murphy Siding]

With God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

[Mookie]

gardendance

I wished for a unicorn that poops ice cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU only to find out it was a Squatty Potty commercial.

 

Squatty Potty was on Shark Tank just a few days ago.....

[gardendance]

I wished for a unicorn that poops ice cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU only to find out it was a Squatty Potty commercial.