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City of New Orleans Song- "Changing Cars in Memphis TN" Why would IC do that?

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:00 PM

I can say:  Steve's original version, preferably with no accompaniment except his own acoustic guitar.  It's the first version I ever heard, & it'll stick with me till I go where he went before.

Runner up is his Austin City Limits performance with Jethro Burns on mandolin.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:55 PM

If you do a You Tube search for Steve Goodman "City of New Orleans" you can find a great live performance by Steve at an affair hosted by Johnny Cash.  It's a treat to see and hear "CONY" performed by the man himself.

By the way, a young Vince Gill sings back-up for Steve.

There's Arlo Guthrie's version, Steve Goodman's version, Willie Nelson's version (done with Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson and Waylon Jennings) and honestly I can't say which one I like the best.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:44 PM

Steve Goodman's 800 page biography is FACING THE MUSIC by Clay Eals, now in its third printing.  I haven't read the book in a few years, but my recollection is that Steve hadn't ridden the "City" south of the Ohio River at the time he wrote the song.  So "changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee" was probably a product of his very fertile imagination. 

Steve was from Chicago, and he rode it a number of times as a college student before he began his "real job" as an entertainer and song writer; but he didn't write the song until after he and his wife Nancy had ridden the train south from Chicago to southern Illinois to visit her relatives.  I understand he did ride the train all the way to New Orleans at some point after the song had been recorded by Arlo Guthrie and others, and had become famous.  I doubt that Steve went to the trouble of counting "25 sacks of mail", and I don't think the train required "three conductors".

By the way, some of his original lyrics have frequently been changed by other singers, including Arlo.  The original lines were "they ride their fathers' magic carpet made of steam (not steel); and mothers with their babes asleep go rockin' to the gentle beat.  The rhythm of the rails is all they dream (not feel)".  "Passing towns that have no name" has become "trains that have no name".  John Denver even changed the melody, fudged the credits, and changed "old black men" to "old gray men".  Sacrilege!

Check out some of Steve's other songs and you will see that he wasn't beyond stretching the truth a bit to make a good story.  The lyrics of novelty tunes like "Lincoln Park Pirates", "Turnpike Tom", "Chicken Cordon Bleus", "Door Number Three" (written with Jimmy Buffet), "The Dying Cub Fan's Last Request", and "You Never Even Call Me By My Name" (written with John Prine), will demonstrate that one of Steve's great strengths was his ability to tell a story, even if the facts were a bit hazy. 

A lot of his songs were written just for fun, but he was capable of writing tender love songs and introspective songs too.  Listen to "Yellow Coat" or "Would You Like to Learn to Dance?" (songs Kris Kristofferson admires greatly).  I can also recommend "I Can't Sleep" and "My Old Man". 

For Steve's entire professional career, he lived under a death sentence.  He was diagnosed with Leukemia at a time when treatment of that disease was in its infancy.  He lived a lot longer than he or anybody else expected.  Some of his songs, like "Song For David" and "Somebody Else's Troubles" reflect that, but I don't think he ever let that affect the joy he brought to his performances --- at least I never saw it on the many occasions when I went to his shows in Chicago.

Steve was a terrific songwriter, and he is sadly missed by his family, friends, and fans.  But I don't believe "City of New Orleans" was ever intended to be a documentary. 

Tom

P.S. Steve was a white kid from Chicago, so segregation probably wasn't a factor in his travel experience.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:03 PM

I guess Arlo Guthrie is the singer who gave the City of New Orleans song a big lift, but you're right--those lyrics (and the correct turns in the tune) came from Chicago's own Steve Goodman (may he rest in peace after a life cut 'way too short by leukemia).

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:49 PM

The last time I rode the IC's City of New Orleans was in the spring of 1970, and I rode from Carbondale to Carrollton Avenue (we were a little late, leaving Memphis at nine in the evening, and losing more time all the way; I did not want to miss Southern's Crescent; anything could happen when a train is being turned on the wye before backing into the station in New Orleans). I did not have to change cars in Memphis, so when I first heard the song I thought it bore some resemblance to my experience except for the changing cars--which may be artistic license put in, as has been mentioned, to have a rhyme that scans.

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Posted by trackrat888 on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:46 PM
Ok 15 cars but I have been on many a train where at the end of the line you have 20 passenger scattered over 10 cars or more like 8 these days and the conductor closes cars to keep everyone together so he does not have to walk as far. Take the Ethan Allen for example.
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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:31 PM

I don't know that the song says IC did it, maybe Steve Goodman wrote it because the passenger in his song wanted to change cars. It's great to hear that Arlo Guthrie's touring, but what does he have to do with City of New Orleans, or even this song about the National Limited:

Riding on the Remnant of St Louie
Pennsylvania's badly battered rails
15 cars and 15 restless riders
passenger slowly turning pale

and on our eastbound oddity 
the train pulls out of Kansas C
past factories, slums and roads

being passed by trains that have no names 
and freight yards full of shippers claims
the ghostly hulk moves onward down the road

Good morning Terra Haute how are you
Don't you know me I'm your errant son
I'm the train they call the Remant of St Louie
I'll be gone 100 miles fore my day is done

Trading insults with the steward in the diner
With yesterday's chicken ain't no use keeping score
pass the alka seltzer after dinner
if you don't you'll be crawling on the floor

and the sons of pullman porters
and the sons of engineers 
wonder how their fathers bought this lousy deal

the conductor sings his song again
the passengers are well restrained
this train's got the disappearing service blues

Good morning Steubenville how are you
Don't you know me I'm your errant son
I'm the train they call the Remant of St Louie
I'll be gone 100 miles fore my day is done

Nightime on the Remnant of St Louie
Changing tracks in Lewistown PA
Halfway home and we'll be there some morning
All you gotta do is get on your knees and pray

and all the towns and people scream
it's all part of a vile scheme
as the train stops once again to change its crew

mothers can't keep their babies asleep
the rocking's more a crashing beat
and the pounding of the rails is all you hear

Good night New York, New York where are you
Don't you know me I'm your errant son
I'm the train they call the Remant of St Louie
I've gone 100 miles, now my day is done

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:31 PM

trackrat888

Division Point? Segragation Point? Get all the passengers on a 10 car train in one car?BTW Arlo Guthrie is doing another 18 month tour.

Fifteen cars, he said.  "Ten cars" throws the meter off if you try to sing it that way.  And he wanted a rhyme for "rolling down to the sea."

Memphis is about as far south as the City of New Orleans could go in Tennessee before it went into Mississippi.  And Tennessee is notorious for having the very first law mandating segregation (note sp.) in railroad cars, passed in 1881.  So not likely it was a Jim Crow requirement.  Since the City of New Orleans was a day train, IIRC arriving in Memphis in the early to mid afternoon either way, it becomes somewhat clearer that 'poetic license' is behind much of the wording of the lyrics...

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City of New Orleans Song- "Changing Cars in Memphis TN" Why would IC do that?
Posted by trackrat888 on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:20 PM

Division Point? Segragation Point? Get all the passengers on a 10 car train in one car?BTW Arlo Guthrie is doing another 18 month tour.

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