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Posted by DARVIN SCHROEDER on Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:35 AM

May 25, 2017

                Substantial track re-work continues at Rochelle diamonds today.

 

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Posted by xjqcf on Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:58 AM

Today's work has begun, this time on UP #1 track. This should be the last of the panel work.

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:03 PM

MKT Dave
someone shooting a gun

So, I wasn't imagining it. Thanks

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Posted by MKT Dave on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:01 PM

someone shooting a gun, think it might be the bird hater with all the flags and stuff. had earphones on, was loud, thanks jerk.

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:27 PM

Two UP Heritage Unit sightings in two days.

Just saw the "Missouri Pacific" unit as the second of two on a WB intermodal train that cleared the diamonds at 1822 CDT.

Yesterday I saw the "Western Pacific" unit on a EB train.

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:03 PM

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rdamon

Looks like we won't be getting any work done for the next few days ..

 

 

 

 

 

I just got wind of the work for tomorrow via a BNSF track or maintainer conversation with the dispatcher. BNSF track #1 (closest to the park) will get 2 panels replaced.

 

 

 

 

Last BNSF on #1 track by just after 7:00. Today's work has begun.

 

 

The first BNSF train on track #1 after work done for the day by at 3:02. 10 mph speed restriction in place. After passage the speed restriction was increased to 25, which ws also done on #2 track on Monday.

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Posted by BtrainBob on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:43 PM

anyone know why their replacing all of the approaches to the diamond?  I can guess, but, would like to know the real reason.  Improve drainage? Change in rail weight for the new diamond? Alignment of the new diamond?  Thanks

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Posted by alpinemike on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:02 AM

looks pretty serious  doesnt look like routine maintenace

 

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:04 AM

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Waiting and track work going on...

 

 

 

 

And now they took the spur:

 

When they came out the conductor on the local asked the foreman in charge of the form B for permission, asking that if they found any worms good for fishing. I don't know if any worms found in that oil and residue soaked muck would be good lures or if the fish caught with such worms would be fir for consumption.

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Posted by trainmaster247 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:29 AM

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Waiting and track work going on...

 

 

And now they took the spur:

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Posted by trainmaster247 on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:28 AM

Waiting and track work going on...

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:42 AM

BaltACD

Today's activities seem to be on replacing a panel on the BNSF West & East of the Diamond.

First time I have heard of replacing panels approaching the diamonds in preparation for replacing the diamonds.  I wonder what they will do with the other BNSF track where the switch is involved?

 

 

I wondered about this when they did work on Monday on BNSF #2 track. Although they did not replace  panel on the east side they did some work on up to about the frog on the 199 switch. The work included a number of welds but not sure if it was rail related or just signal bonds.

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Posted by BrassBootleg on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:35 AM

BaltACD

Today's activities seem to be on replacing a panel on the BNSF West & East of the Diamond.

First time I have heard of replacing panels approaching the diamonds in preparation for replacing the diamonds.

 

It looks like their equipment for either side is a little unbalanced, wouldn't you say?  Kinda comical if you ask me. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:15 AM

Today's activities seem to be on replacing a panel on the BNSF West & East of the Diamond.

First time I have heard of replacing panels approaching the diamonds in preparation for replacing the diamonds.  I wonder what they will do with the other BNSF track where the switch is involved?

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:30 AM

xjqcf

 

 
rdamon

Looks like we won't be getting any work done for the next few days ..

 

 

 

 

 

I just got wind of the work for tomorrow via a BNSF track or maintainer conversation with the dispatcher. BNSF track #1 (closest to the park) will get 2 panels replaced.

 

 

Last BNSF on #1 track by just after 7:00. Today's work has begun.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:46 PM

xjqcf
The head light dimming on the eastbound was probably due to the presence of the westbound just on the other side of the diamonds.

Left my computer for lunch before the WB showed up on the screen.

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:32 PM

cefinkjr

EB BNSF stack train (all JB Hunt boxes?) on #2 stopped just short of the diamonds, dimmed his headlight, and then proceeded across the diamonds like it was running on thin ice.  So slow it's stil crossing the diamonds. First time I've ever seen that.

 

 

This is just another situation where the BNSF dispatcher does not have good control of traffic at the diamonds, particularly when there's work there, since, even though this is an automatic interlocking operating, at least in part, on a first come, first served principle, because UP is in charge of both trackwork and signal maintenance.

The theory was that both railroads could run on tracks not actually out of service as normally; both railroads had their own form B's in effect with their own foremen giving permission to pass through the zone HOWEVER the diamonds themselves have their own requirements to met, either by signal indication, or, if the dispatchers agree, to allow a train to pass a stop signal after the conductor goes to the release box and follow the the instructions posted there.

BNSF had two trains in the picture, and eastbound stack train on track 2 and a westbound empty oil train on track 1. Both trains were cleared through the form B zone and were supposed to get clear signals, but the signal dropped. There was speculation that there was a problem with the application of shunts, or perhaps track equipment was shunting. Dispatcher tells crew that there's no cross traffic and to do the release proceedure. Finally did that after a bit of a detour since the conductor didn't know that the release is located on the main control box at the diamond, not at the signal bridge. he finally did this, got the ok and waited for his train to pull through to pick him up. By this time the westbound had arrived and did the same proceedure. The head light dimming on the eastbound was probably due to the presence of the westbound just on the other side of the diamonds.

In a later conversation the BNSF dispatcher was grousing when talking to another train planning to cross the diamonds about UP having effective control the diamonds and that their traffic gets preferential treatment.

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Posted by BrassBootleg on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM

So I'm a little late to this thread, but what exactly are they working on?  Replacing the panels?  All I cought wind of was the dude's butt crack just before the freighter went by.  

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:13 PM

:)  I had to quickly mute my phone during a confrence call ...

I wonder if there is anything special with the track panels ..  would they use a heavier rail on the diamonds?

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:22 PM

EB BNSF stack train (all JB Hunt boxes?) on #2 stopped just short of the diamonds, dimmed his headlight, and then proceeded across the diamonds like it was running on thin ice.  So slow it's stil crossing the diamonds. First time I've ever seen that.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:50 PM

rdamon
Looks like we won't be getting any work done for the next few days ..

Misunderstood your post at first; wondered who you meant by "we".  Finally dawned on me that "we" includes me and I have to agree.  Maybe if I can get my wife off the laptop she's using, I can move it here beside my desktop.  Then I'll just get a severe case of strained eyeball muscles.

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:38 AM

rdamon

Looks like we won't be getting any work done for the next few days ..

 

 

 

I just got wind of the work for tomorrow via a BNSF track or maintainer conversation with the dispatcher. BNSF track #1 (closest to the park) will get 2 panels replaced.

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Posted by trainmaster247 on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:27 AM

New panel is already in:

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:05 AM

Looks like we won't be getting any work done for the next few days ..

 

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:56 AM

xjqcf

They seem to be focusing on #2 track (closest to the park). A track worker just poked at the ballast on #2 with a ballast fork, just like they did before yesterday's track panel work.

 

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:05 AM

They seem to be focusing on #2 track (closest to the park). A track worker just poked at the ballast on #2 with a ballast fork, just like they did before yesterday's track panel work.

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:27 AM

Looks like they're setting up for a second day of fun. A bunch of people are on scene scoping out UP east of the diamonds. I did notice yesterday a couple of endloaders carrying a rather longer track panel east along UP #1 track, so perhaps that's today's agenda.

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, May 22, 2017 4:23 PM

Did my memory just deceive me, or did the EB BNSF intermodal train that just clear the diamonds at 1616 CDT consist of TOFC loads entirely? There wasn't a stacked set of cans in sight. I don't believe I have ever seen such a large train made up like that. And it had three units up front.

BTW, the first thing I noticed was it was trying out the new track panel laid this morning.

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Posted by STEPHEN J KESSLER on Monday, May 22, 2017 1:52 PM
The numbers of the UP SD-70ACe-T4 units were 3026 and 3036. Happened to see them as well.
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Posted by xjqcf on Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM

cefinkjr

I saw what might have been the first UP traffic on #2 since that panel was replaced.  Both units did a very nice dosey-doe as they crossed the diamonds.  Might need a little more work there, Guys.  Whistling

My bet is that this work on adjacent BNSF panels is preparation for replacement of the diamonds next weekend.  I'm going to be tied up from Friday to Monday with VFW Memorial Day activities so I hope somebody gets a good video and posts a link to it here.

 

 

UP has been running traffic on #2 track in both directions all day. They have a form B zone and a form C with a flagman giving authority to pass through the interlocking. BNSF has been dead until now (they had an unrelated track window further west until 12:00) but just got the first one through (eastbound stacker), with one close behind.

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