CA, Gilroy, TT foundation 37° 0'18.74"N 121°33'58.15"W
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=37.0062&lon=-121.5662&z=16
WI Tomah 43°59'15.40"N 90°30'11.56"W RH outline
MidlandMike WI Tomah 43°59'15.40"N 90°30'11.56"W RH outline
Nice!
Here's the topo link to it.
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=41.7549&lon=-81.26615&z=16
And just to the east in WI, Wyeville, TT and RH foundations
44° 1'44.31"N 90°23'12.30"W
No topo indication.
Well, Google has released their newest version of Earth, which is only for the Chrome browser and has vastly reduced functionality, lacking (among other things) the KML plotting features. They're still keeping the application for desktop for the time being, but I really hope they don't screw up something I have several hundred hours invested in...
I mentioned the turntable at the Kingston shops of the Jamaican Rwy Corp. a couple years ago - July 12, 2014, at:
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/195380.aspx?page=10
N 17.97063 W 76.80073 (approx. - hard to see in aerials)
Looking through some personal photos from Feb. 1977, there was also a transfer table there (again, approx. - hard to see in aerials):
N 17.97176 W 76.80151
- PDN.
IL. Taylorville, RH
39°32'13.21"N 89°18'21.23"W
http://www.american-rails.com/chicago-and-illinois-midland-railway.html
LA, New Orleans, RH pre 1998
30° 0'26.08"N 90° 0'29.46"Whttp://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=30.0067&lon=-90.00781&z=16
I've taken to going back to larger towns and using the topo maps to see if there are more than the one or two already found.... there are.
Here's a 2nd one in Wichita Falls, Texas
TX, Wichita Falls, RH and TT foundations 2013 33°55'46.90"N 98°30'9.12"W
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=33.9283&lon=-98.50261&z=16
Mt. Morris, NY
Danville & Mt Morris RR & Erie RR(Immediately adjacent to ex-PRR Rochester Branch, shows on their R/W map (PRR vs V36.12 Sheet 38 WNY&P, formerly V2.12)
(Outline of turntable is evident) - This is right where Erie, PRR & D&MM came together on top of the old canal alignment
N 42 43' 06.92"
W 77 52' 07.67"
No evidence of a roundhouse structure.
MI, Lansing RH and TT foundations Visible 2005
42°45'28.45"N 84°32'19.74"W
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=42.7576&lon=-84.53913&z=16
MossRoadHellooooo..... hope everyone is OK.
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Glad you are still kicking!
My KMZ file went nuts on me and I spent several days getting it straightened out, and I just do the U.S. I can't imaging how many there are world-wide!
Good luck on your book. I'll be slowing down my searches soon. Probably pick back up in fall/winter. Have a good summer.
MR
Paul_D_North_Jr I mentioned the turntable at the Kingston shops of the Jamaican Rwy Corp. a couple years ago - July 12, 2014, at: http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/195380.aspx?page=10 N 17.97063 W 76.80073 (approx. - hard to see in aerials) Looking through some personal photos from Feb. 1977, there was also a transfer table there (again, approx. - hard to see in aerials): N 17.97176 W 76.80151 - PDN.
I vaguely remember looking at that 1st one and decided it was too far to the southeast... so I have one at
17°58'22.54"N 76°48'10.14"W
Any thoughts on that? Maybe there were 2, or maybe I just picked the wrong place.
WHOOOO BOY! I am bleary-eyed now!
Spent most of yesterday playing catch-up on all the postings since my last update after I finished the Non-U.S. additions.
Special thanks to LokshuppenGER for his excellant list of Non-U.S. sites! Lots of hours in that list! From his list I added 465 to my list (I found 6 others on my own by accident... some were something I saw to the side while adding a site from his list!) Many of his were already in my list so that part went fast, but some of the others were a bear to prove (and a couple I just accepted on faith that what was listed was really a site to include!)
I must point out that LokshuppenGER has many more items in his list that I did not add to mine. He also lists general shop buildings, whereas my focus was on "Roundhouses". My list also combines Turntable and Roundhouse locations into one entry whereas his keeps them separate.
He also used a different symbol for each type of site (turntables are marked with a circle, buildings are marked with a engine in a portal and transfer tables are marked with a square... mine are all just yellow pushpins). I was torn as to whether I should go back and redo my list the same way but opted to convert all of his to my simpleton method (I'm lazy!).
There are 471 new Non-U.S. sites and 36 new U.S. sites (Thanks to MossRoad and Paul D. North Jr for most of those U.S. sites... I hope I have not left out thanking anybody... this has very much become a group effort!).
I also made a few corrections to both lists where someone contacted me that I had a name misspelled or even a wrong name applied (I stumbled upon a few all by myself!).
If anyone finds other mistakes in my list, I will correct them as they are pointed out to me. I have tried to proof-read the lists, but as bleary-eyed as I am now, I am sure I have missed a typo or two and there may be other mistakes.
I have uploaded new files for others to use.
Unfortunately, the KMZ files will still not download from my webserver, so I have left those links out of this posting. You will get the files in the ZIP file.
I have compressed all 5 files into one ZIP file so MAYBE everybody can download them all in one swell foop.
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/RR%20Roundhouses.zip
That should get you all 5 files at once for you to Un-ZIP. There are 2 KMZ files to inport to your copy of Google Earth, 2 PDF files to print the two lists (U.S. & Non-U.S.) and one Excel spreadsheet (includes both the U.S. and Non-U.S. sites).
Here are links to the 3 individual files that will download:
Excel file of all the data: (Note: it is now saved as an "XLSX" file instead of a "XLS"... if this causes a problem for anyone, let me know and I will see if I can resave it in the older "XLS" format).
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Roundhouse%20and%20Turntables.xlsx
PDF of the Non-U.S. locations:
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/Non%20US%20Roundhouses%20and%20Turntables.pdf
PDF of the U.S. locations:
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/sempervaporo/Trainsdotcom/US%20Roundhouses%20and%20Turntables.pdf
ME Mattawamkeag 45°31'0.16"N 68°21'1.81"W TT gone No RH
I saw the TT when it was still there in the mid 1980s. The topo map shows the TT location. The outline is very faint in sat. image.
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/?lat=45.5157&lon=-68.35036&z=16
Also in Maine on your list, Yanceboro should be Vanceboro.
Thanks MidlandMike. I had a few minutes this morning so I updated the files and uploaded them to the server... the links above will still work to get these latest files. (No other changes).
Well... Google has just shot themselves in the foot as far as I am concerned.
1st they forced the install of "Google Earth Pro" on my PC, then they just updated it again and it will only run using "Chrome" as the browser.
Protectionist NIH stupidity. I won't install Chrome, so I guess I am done ever using Google Earth ever again. I just uninstalled it from my PC. Couldn't even sent feedback to them to tell 'em goodbye!
If someone would like to take over this Roundhouse/Turntable database I HAD compiled, please volunteer here and enjoy yer self. I'm done!
BYE-BYE! (Well... just to this thread, not Trains.com!)
I did likewise. Ditto Photobucket, altho' was never really happy with the latter, but it WAS FREE!
Thank You.
Semper, looks like your computer updated to version 7.3.0 from 7.1.8 (which I have not yet, so I can't comment on that) which does involve going to Google Earth Pro as the standard version is apparently no longer supported. I've been running pro since it became free and there is no difference other than a few added features such as KML circles. It should theoretically still run as its own program according to the release notes. It looks like the earliest supported operating system is now Windows 7, so that might be your issue? I don't have Chrome either.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/opv-ok9poRI
I knew they had updated the program because everytime they do it, my desktop icon is deleted from where I keep it, and recreated someplace else.
When I ran it, it would start but never got far enough to show the earth or load my KML files... it just stops with a black window where the earth is normally shown.
I decided to attempt to re-install the non-Pro version and went to the website. All it would do is install the Pro version and on the site it states "REQUIRES Chrome to operate" and would not download the Pro version without first installing Chrome.
BLAM BLAM... I hope they don't miss the toes they just shot off, I am sure they won't miss me.
I think that you can download the old versions here:
https://support.google.com/earth/answer/168344?vid=0-362284356341-1503674462434
Not sure if that would fix your issue.
Thank you... that has returned the old G.E. to my PC... at least for the moment. I wonder if/when it will decide to update me again.
What would you have used as an alternative to Google Earth?
MidlandMikeWhat would you have used as an alternative to Google Earth?
I like mapper.acme.com. It uses the Google satellite images, but you can flip over to topo maps, which can be very handy for figuring the lineage of a rail line, as some of the maps used are somewhat dated. And for railroad archeology, that's a good thing. Sometimes old RR structures, yards, etc, are still shown, and oftimes an old RR ROW is labelled as an old RR bed.
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tree68 MidlandMike What would you have used as an alternative to Google Earth? I like mapper.acme.com. It uses the Google satellite images, but you can flip over to topo maps, which can be very handy for figuring the lineage of a rail line, as some of the maps used are somewhat dated. And for railroad archeology, that's a good thing. Sometimes old RR structures, yards, etc, are still shown, and oftimes an old RR ROW is labelled as an old RR bed.
MidlandMike What would you have used as an alternative to Google Earth?
I use MyTopo which is similar to Acme Mapper, to change back and forth between satellite and topo.
http://www.mytopo.com/maps/
But I still use Google Earth because it has a lot more features for images. For RR archeology I use the USGS site:
https://nationalmap.gov/historical/index.html
and then select TopoView
It has all editions of all US topo maps ever made, although it is a little cumbersome to use. Suggest start with 1:62,000 scale
I may be late to the races on this since admittedly I didn't take the time read every post. With that qualifer being said...... North Walpole, New Hampshire on the east side of the Connecticut River directly opposite Bellows Falls, Vermont.
Add to previous posting by me: Brattleboro, Vermont. (see: > http://vhist.com/calendars/railwindham/comments-more-on-the-pics/ <
Thanks... but some questions...
I initially thought you were duplicating a couple of entries I already have... but I decided to try to verify them... found that the Brattleboro, VT site is a new one to the list, though not at all visible on G.E. (it would be underwater now!).
But I don't seen any evidence for another one in Nort Walpole, NH. Do you have any further info on that one?
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