Murray zugmann Ulrich Sheesh..thanks for the warning though. If you trespass in my yard, I will also call authorities. It isn't a playground. I'm afraid you can't trespass where I work either Ulrich. The sign at the base reads: "Authorized personnel only. Use of Deadly Force Authorized".
zugmann Ulrich Sheesh..thanks for the warning though. If you trespass in my yard, I will also call authorities. It isn't a playground.
Ulrich Sheesh..thanks for the warning though.
Sheesh..thanks for the warning though.
If you trespass in my yard, I will also call authorities. It isn't a playground.
I'm afraid you can't trespass where I work either Ulrich.
The sign at the base reads: "Authorized personnel only. Use of Deadly Force Authorized".
Thanks Murray..I respect private property and the property of others..
If you are not breaking the law, there is no need to call the police. But c'mon... we all know that there are a lot of railfans that won't let a simple property line stop them from the ulitamte photo.
rrnut282 To those of you happy to call the police, WHAT LAW is Henry/Ulrich proposing that fans BREAK? We all bemoan how things aren't like they were in the good old days, yet I see the reason why right here in this thread. Too many are cowed into not doing things they like and used to do because someone else sees a problem where none really exist. For example of all the hundreds if not thousands of middle easterners who learned to fly for fun or a career, five choose to do something horrible. Now every middle-easterner who even flies is suspect. Why are railfans painted with that same brush???
To those of you happy to call the police, WHAT LAW is Henry/Ulrich proposing that fans BREAK?
We all bemoan how things aren't like they were in the good old days, yet I see the reason why right here in this thread. Too many are cowed into not doing things they like and used to do because someone else sees a problem where none really exist.
For example of all the hundreds if not thousands of middle easterners who learned to fly for fun or a career, five choose to do something horrible. Now every middle-easterner who even flies is suspect.
Why are railfans painted with that same brush???
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
Henry:
October 3 is a good day to go out an photograph trains. Each year Railroads Illustrated selects a Saturday, usually, for railfans to go out to their favorite haunts, photograph trains, and send in their photos for publication. They call that day Railfan Day In North America. This year Railroads Illustrated has selected October 3 for Railfan Day In North America so selecting October 3 for all railfans to go out an photograph or even video record trains fits.
My wife and I will be on our way from Durango, CO to Canon City, CO so I should have an opportunity to photograph a train
wabash1 then you wonder why the railroaders hate foamers . you guys are the first to complain when the law comes to your spots and questiions you and the same guys who complain when railroaders turn you in. then you guys are the same guys who female dog and moan when you here of someone screwing up and making a bad name for foamers , then you have the nerve to turn railroaders in on the abuse button here for your own fantisy to continue. With all that said my point is the same guys ( all you guys posting) Are attempting to go out and draw alot of attention to your self and really set yourselfs back 20years and if you come out in the swarms that your trying to do so you can prove your points, then great i Hope everyone of you go to jail ( for your cause yea right) and i will help the police arrest the ones in my area. this is not a game. You want to be accepted do it the right way not as a bunch of vigalanties . No im not parinoid and i dont belive the world is ending. but when i see groups of people standing track side its not ussually a good thing and most generally ends up being trouble.
then you wonder why the railroaders hate foamers . you guys are the first to complain when the law comes to your spots and questiions you and the same guys who complain when railroaders turn you in. then you guys are the same guys who female dog and moan when you here of someone screwing up and making a bad name for foamers , then you have the nerve to turn railroaders in on the abuse button here for your own fantisy to continue.
With all that said my point is the same guys ( all you guys posting) Are attempting to go out and draw alot of attention to your self and really set yourselfs back 20years and if you come out in the swarms that your trying to do so you can prove your points, then great i Hope everyone of you go to jail ( for your cause yea right) and i will help the police arrest the ones in my area. this is not a game. You want to be accepted do it the right way not as a bunch of vigalanties . No im not parinoid and i dont belive the world is ending. but when i see groups of people standing track side its not ussually a good thing and most generally ends up being trouble.
Who, pray tell, in this entire thread up to the point of your reply, said anything about being vigilantes? It was simply proposed that those of us who are willing can go out to take some photographs of trains on a certain Saturday during a certain time period, from public property. How is that being a vigilante? Nobody's proposing a mass protest where we all trespass on railroad property. That's absurd.
And for that matter, let's just say, Wabash1, that a large group of people did congregate in your neighborhood, on public property, to snap some train photos. You are going to help the police arrest them, are you? Good luck. What would you see? A buncha law-abiding, tax-payin' guys, standing in a parking lot or on a sidewalk facing the tracks, with cameras around their necks, swappin' stories about trains and railroad history, laughin', jokin', maybe making some new friends in the process, wearing their favorite RR ball caps and many (like me) a few pounds past slim, and you in your sanctimony will volunteer to help the police cuff 'em all and drag them into the pokey?
Uh huh. Sure you will. I think you'd be the one who stands a better chance of getting arrested for making a false report because no 911 operator would believe a crime was being committed or even such a group of rail enthusiasts were doing anything suspicious.
Calm down.
Murray Lutefisk and grits...Mmmmmmmmmmm...Mmmmmmmmmmmm.........drool drool!
Lutefisk and grits...Mmmmmmmmmmm...Mmmmmmmmmmmm.........drool drool!
There is all sorts of not right with that statement. May as well add ketchup, and chase it with a Bromo.
Thank you too.
RRKen Deggesty RRKen Did they at least have the dignity of serving them with Lard or five pats of butter? Yes, with butter is the proper way to eat grits. It is permissible to use red-eye gravy. Milk and sugar? I first heard of this heresy when I was in college, and a boy from Southwest Virginia admitting to having eaten grits thus the first time he had any. By the time he got to college, he knew better. (For the information of those who do not yet know, I grew up in South Carolina, and went to college in Bristol, Tennessee). Johnny I wish someone here served red-eye. Hard to get decent food in a place where Lutefisk is considered good.
Deggesty RRKen Did they at least have the dignity of serving them with Lard or five pats of butter? Yes, with butter is the proper way to eat grits. It is permissible to use red-eye gravy. Milk and sugar? I first heard of this heresy when I was in college, and a boy from Southwest Virginia admitting to having eaten grits thus the first time he had any. By the time he got to college, he knew better. (For the information of those who do not yet know, I grew up in South Carolina, and went to college in Bristol, Tennessee). Johnny
RRKen Did they at least have the dignity of serving them with Lard or five pats of butter?
Did they at least have the dignity of serving them with Lard or five pats of butter?
Johnny
I wish someone here served red-eye. Hard to get decent food in a place where Lutefisk is considered good.
The original post was about the legal act of photographing railroads from public property being suspicious. It said nothing about trespass or banning photography. I don’t think there is much you can do about suspicion. Some people are full of it. Homeland Security thrives on it. The real issue, if it comes up, is the introduction of a prohibition on photographing railroad subjects from public property.
RRKen henry6 I am not asking anyone to do any thing unsafe or illegal. But letter writing and editorials, etc., have done nothing to dissuade those from changing the no photography rule. What if we do nothing? Nothing happens. Next another right or freedom will be taken away. I have suggested that this is a way to make our point. No mob scene, no violence, no signs, no shouts, no illegal activity, no sabatoge, no tresspassing, no destruction: maybe just take a picture and leave that spot. If we don't do it now, then who will do it and when? I know those who have responded here are not the ones I would expect to do anything like this, or probably anything else in our defense. I have made the suggestion. I am not taking roll call or counting bubbles. I'll be near a track someplace between 11:45 AM and 12:15 PM Saturday, October 3rd, with camera in hand. I hope others will be to. If no one notices, that shows even more the absurdity of such rules. If no one else shows up, it shows the absurdity of having this right in the first place. I will be working, safely. If you are where I work with a camera, there will be issues. Mainly because it is off limits to the public. We do get some strays, but they are usually meeting the police on the way out. I could care less what people do on sidewalks or property other than my employers. When they trespass however, I drop the dime, I dont care who they are.
henry6 I am not asking anyone to do any thing unsafe or illegal. But letter writing and editorials, etc., have done nothing to dissuade those from changing the no photography rule. What if we do nothing? Nothing happens. Next another right or freedom will be taken away. I have suggested that this is a way to make our point. No mob scene, no violence, no signs, no shouts, no illegal activity, no sabatoge, no tresspassing, no destruction: maybe just take a picture and leave that spot. If we don't do it now, then who will do it and when? I know those who have responded here are not the ones I would expect to do anything like this, or probably anything else in our defense. I have made the suggestion. I am not taking roll call or counting bubbles. I'll be near a track someplace between 11:45 AM and 12:15 PM Saturday, October 3rd, with camera in hand. I hope others will be to. If no one notices, that shows even more the absurdity of such rules. If no one else shows up, it shows the absurdity of having this right in the first place.
I am not asking anyone to do any thing unsafe or illegal. But letter writing and editorials, etc., have done nothing to dissuade those from changing the no photography rule. What if we do nothing? Nothing happens. Next another right or freedom will be taken away. I have suggested that this is a way to make our point. No mob scene, no violence, no signs, no shouts, no illegal activity, no sabatoge, no tresspassing, no destruction: maybe just take a picture and leave that spot. If we don't do it now, then who will do it and when? I know those who have responded here are not the ones I would expect to do anything like this, or probably anything else in our defense. I have made the suggestion. I am not taking roll call or counting bubbles. I'll be near a track someplace between 11:45 AM and 12:15 PM Saturday, October 3rd, with camera in hand. I hope others will be to. If no one notices, that shows even more the absurdity of such rules. If no one else shows up, it shows the absurdity of having this right in the first place.
I will be working, safely. If you are where I work with a camera, there will be issues. Mainly because it is off limits to the public. We do get some strays, but they are usually meeting the police on the way out.
I could care less what people do on sidewalks or property other than my employers. When they trespass however, I drop the dime, I dont care who they are.
At that time... if I'm working, I'll probably be near the tracks. If not working, good chance I'll be in bed.
Murray RRKen Murray I had a full breakfast in Albany, NY earlier this year, I ended up watching trains...legally and safely. Did they serve grits? Yep...Ate them like Cream of Wheat....
RRKen Murray I had a full breakfast in Albany, NY earlier this year, I ended up watching trains...legally and safely. Did they serve grits?
Murray I had a full breakfast in Albany, NY earlier this year, I ended up watching trains...legally and safely.
I had a full breakfast in Albany, NY earlier this year, I ended up watching trains...legally and safely.
Did they serve grits?
Yep...Ate them like Cream of Wheat....
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zugmann I had Bailey's and called it breakfast. Does that count?
I had Bailey's and called it breakfast. Does that count?
Only if it was more than one shot.
RRKen It is a combination of beer, eggs, and Bailey's Irish creame.
It is a combination of beer, eggs, and Bailey's Irish creame.
I had eggs with my Full Breakfast this morning.
Murray RRKen Murray Ok all you unmarried men with varying degrees of personal hygeine stand over there. The rest of you follow me. I showered today, and even used shampoo. You know Ken you hair does look fuller, and has more body and shine.
RRKen Murray Ok all you unmarried men with varying degrees of personal hygeine stand over there. The rest of you follow me. I showered today, and even used shampoo.
Murray Ok all you unmarried men with varying degrees of personal hygeine stand over there. The rest of you follow me.
Ok all you unmarried men with varying degrees of personal hygeine stand over there. The rest of you follow me.
I showered today, and even used shampoo.
You know Ken you hair does look fuller, and has more body and shine.
And your body odor is a little less repulsive today! Good man!
Murray you hair does look fuller, and has more body and shine.
you hair does look fuller, and has more body and shine.
You know Ken your hair does look fuller, and has more body and shine.
WhiteLeather From Trains.com News Wire: "Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano this week suggested citizens should call law enforcement when they see someone taking a picture of "critical infrastructure." Photographing rail lines from public property remains perfectly legal, but Napolitano suggests citizens should call police anyway. "One of the things we ask people to do," Napolitano told Fox News, "is when they see something unusual, if they see, for example, somebody continually taking photographs of a piece of critical infrastructure that doesn't seem to make any sense … to report that to local law enforcement so it can be followed up on." I've been "investigated" as "suspicious" for simply sitting along a public road and it, like TSA at airports, is yet another slam against our basic 4th Amendment rights. Ms. Napolitano's suggestion will just tie up police and sheriffs for no real reason. She tells people that if you see someone doing something that's "perfectly legal", report it anyway. Wha...?????
From Trains.com News Wire:
"Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano this week suggested citizens should call law enforcement when they see someone taking a picture of "critical infrastructure." Photographing rail lines from public property remains perfectly legal, but Napolitano suggests citizens should call police anyway. "One of the things we ask people to do," Napolitano told Fox News, "is when they see something unusual, if they see, for example, somebody continually taking photographs of a piece of critical infrastructure that doesn't seem to make any sense … to report that to local law enforcement so it can be followed up on."
I've been "investigated" as "suspicious" for simply sitting along a public road and it, like TSA at airports, is yet another slam against our basic 4th Amendment rights. Ms. Napolitano's suggestion will just tie up police and sheriffs for no real reason. She tells people that if you see someone doing something that's "perfectly legal", report it anyway.
Wha...?????
So if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. I don't see the big deal. Now if I was a tresspasser I might be upset, which might explain some of the responses on this board.......
An "expensive model collector"
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