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Posted by TrainFreak409 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409


When you say tea, do you mean canned tea, herbal tea, or what? Because I drink a lot of REAL tea, not that canned stuff.

The problem is the caffiene - a natural diuretic. You're trying to get fluids in you, and your body is trying to get them out.

Add to that something called "osmolarity." That's how fast your body can absorb a liquid. Water has a value of 32 - soaks right it. Most sodas are in the 700 range - takes them a long time to absorb. Sports drinks are around 320 - a good value. Cranberry juice is about 900. The problem with a caffienated soda (especially "Dew") is that they have caffiene, the diuretic, and high "osm's", so you're thirsty, have to p**, and have a big lump of soda laying in your stomach making you uncomfortable.

Herbal teas probably aren't a problem in that respect. Even regular tea isn't as bad as coffee or a lot of colas.

There - your health lesson for the day...


Cool, thank you for that lesson. I have never even heard about osmolarity. I guess you learn that when you go to be a doctor. At least I knew that tea was better than soda. I'm trying to cut back on the soda, and am limiting myself to one cup of coffee a day. I figure that it will be better in the long run.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:43 PM
Sounds like a good plan. I'll take a gear box over a clutch box any day.

I can't stop laughing over your other post. That was a good one.[(-D][(-D][(-D]
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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas
That was a TH400. You've probably got a TH700R4 which is a little bigger of a job but not that hard to do if you do your own wrenching. You definatly need the book though.


It's actually a 4L60E, which is related, but enough of a pain that I would rather pawn it off on somebody else. Of course, the ultimate design for my car calls for a T56 manual put in there. So I may just pick up a Ranger or S10, and take the Caprice out of service to begin her transformation....

Mwuuuuuu ha ha ha ha ha[}:)][:p]

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:25 PM
Jay,
Are you talking about BASE jumping? Don't worry about that. I wouldn't even do that drunk. Those guys are crazy. Now parachuting on the other hand, I would try that and plan on doing it one day. When I get around to it that is.

Chris,
Funny you should mention transmissions. A hiking buddy and I planned for weeks to drive up the SJ valley and climb up to Mt. Tyndall from the west side (I always go from the east side) which is about a 40 mile hike in. We were took a week off work for the trip. Well we only got as far as Fresno and the tranny went out in my car (d** automatic).
We had to hich hike all the way back to LA and get my truck and rent a trailer to fetch the car. I spent the rest of the week rebuilding my tranny. It was actually pretty easy, I did it myself. Got another 100,000 out of it too. That was a TH400. You've probably got a TH700R4 which is a little bigger of a job but not that hard to do if you do your own wrenching. You definatly need the book though.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:20 PM
Really enjoyed the salad for supper. Some days, it just feels good to
eat on the light side. Current temp is still in the upper 80s. And we still
have about 2 1/2 months left of summer. yuck, yuck, yuck.
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Posted by railfan619 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:14 PM
Good afternoon everybody how is everyone hope you all are doing fine temps here were about 75f but tomorrow it is going to get back into the 80's and 90's. But I did hwar some good news rain is coming rain is coming yea yea [:D][:D][:D][:D]
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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Chris,
Sounds like you get around, no stranger to 14k+ eh'. I haven't done anything in the last couple of years (no $$$) but I've done more 14K+ than I could keep track of. I'm an elevation junkie myself. I dig being on top of the world, and the higher above the surrounding terrain the better. Even better than that is seeing how big of a rock I can launch down the steepest slope. Of couse not where any people are.


I've bagged 7 of Colorado's 54 peaks above 14,000 (the 14ers as they are known as around here). In order of ascent, they are: Mt. Sneffles, Uncompahgre Peak, Longs Peak, Mt. Bierstadt, Mt. Elbert, Gray's Peak and Torrey's Peak. I've got a slew of 13ers, and 12ers under my belt, too.

I actually have not climbed anywhere near what I had hoped to after moving to Colorado. This year, transmission probs on the Caprice have kept me somewhat close to home (hopefully I'll have those ironed out pretty soon).

Of course, I should mix railfanning and 14er bagging together, and do the cog rail line up Pikes Peak. Yes, I'm from Colorado and never been up Pike's Peak. Or diven up Mt. Evans. Sigh...another someday project I guess...

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Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:56 PM
Chad & Chris

I will only take great heights from a fully enclosed airborne vehicle, but I can respect you guys because at least you keep your feet on the ground. Anybody comes in here talking about going down the fast way using a few ounces of thin cloth as an air brake will get me discussing banishment with Bergie. LOL

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:39 PM
Chris,
Sounds like you get around, no stranger to 14k+ eh'. I haven't done anything in the last couple of years (no $$$) but I've done more 14K+ than I could keep track of. I'm an elevation junkie myself. I dig being on top of the world, and the higher above the surrounding terrain the better. Even better than that is seeing how big of a rock I can launch down the steepest slope. Of couse not where any people are.
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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

I've done Whitney 3 times. I highly recomend it. The view is awsome. As to Rainier and the northern volcanoes it's hard to catch them without snow if ever and I don't do the deep snow anymore. I like the southern mountains that are snow free(at least in late summer). I've done most all of the major ones in so-Cal. I started taking 360 panorama shots from the tops, where each successive one has a view of the next and vice-versa. I'm going to see how far north I can get in a lifetime. It would be cool to make it at least to the north end of the state, say Shasta. We'll see.


I've never thought about it that way. I've done a lot of stuff in Rocky Mountain National Park where I can view other climbs I've done. Guess I'm kind of into peak bagging, and range bagging, too. So far, I've got stuff from the Front Range, Sangre de Cristos, San Juans, Collegiates, Sawatch, and a couple other small ranges. Might tackle one of the Elk Mountains this summer. Thinking about the Maroon Bells, or possibly Pyramid Peak.

The problem is that the Elk Mountains have a nasty reputation as killers. They're composed of really loose rock, and if wander off the marked trail, its easy to start sliding for a very long way. While its not common, its enough of a reputation to make one use a little caution.

Haven't been above 14,000 this year, so might go up Mt. Bierstadt or Grays/Torrey's Peak to get acclimated a little bit. Of course the Denver Post Frontier Days Special is this weekend, too. Might have to make it an unofficial three day weekend...

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CopCarSS

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas
Chris


Yeah, it's really tempting to want to forego the tablets. Unfortunately, the little buggers can play havov with one's stomach. I once saw a guy drinking water from a mountain lake that had a dead Elk in it (the Elk had slid down the glacier that fed the lake). That just didn't seem like the world's greatest idea to me.

The waterfall shot is in Yellowstone National Park. It's the lower Yellowstone Falls in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. I woke up at 4:00 AM one morning so I could watch the sunrise in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. That was a cool experience.

I've never done anything in the Sierras. Come to think of it, I've never done anything west of Colorado. Need to head out that way some day. My cousin has climbed Mt. Rainier and it looks like a cool climb. I need to bag Mt. Whitney so I can have the highest peak in the contiguous US (I've got Mt. Elbert...2nd highest). There's all kinds of stuff. Sigh, if I had the time and money...


I've done Whitney 3 times. I highly recomend it. The view is awsome. As to Rainier and the northern volcanoes it's hard to catch them without snow if ever and I don't do the deep snow anymore. I like the southern mountains that are snow free(at least in late summer). I've done most all of the major ones in so-Cal. I started taking 360 panorama shots from the tops, where each successive one has a view of the next and vice-versa. I'm going to see how far north I can get in a lifetime. It would be cool to make it at least to the north end of the state, say Shasta. We'll see.
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Posted by locomutt on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

It is an absolutely perfect mid summer day here. Clear sky, low humidity, nice breeze and temps in the 80's. Almost makes one forget how dry it is.



Jay


I'll take the 80 degree temps. It's about 91 here right now,and humidity
is at least that. We have a chance for some more rain,but right now it is
going to be just "heat of the day",scattered thunder showers.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

Throw a little cubed ham, turkey, and cheese into that salad and you have a deal! [dinner]

Marvelous here today - humidity several notches lower than it has been, so much more tolerable outside


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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:10 PM
supper sounds good tonight.maybe nora will share some peanut butter too?
stay safe
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:40 PM
I'm going to have to be like CopCar for a min and wish Nora a happy belated twenty 10 B-day. [bday]

CW I think your right in saying that it's too hot to be slaving over a extreamly hot stove!! I know I don't feel like cooking tonight so I'll have some of your salad and I'll have one of those ice cream sandwitches. I'm so darn annoyed I missed those BLTs I would of enjoyed that today. I hope the produced you picked up was good. I need to pick some up, myself.

Speaking of produce we need some rain over here in southeastern PA because, I sure do not feel like watering my or I should say "our" crops. They already aren't doing all that great but, we're suposed to get some rain tonight. We'll see. Well the corn over by my friend's farm is about 8ft tall now, so that's good. I can't wait for harvest time!!!! Usually, my friend RJ invites me over for some good old PA grown corn as well as some, oysters, muscels, and clams. He usually does this at harvest time.
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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas
Chris,
Those purification tabs do kill the taste of water but I don't drink the water without em'. The sickest I've ever been in my life was from drinking out of a stream high up in the mountains. I used to do a lot of hiking up in the high Sierras and I learned early on that the trick is to go during a full moon and get up to 13,000 or so at night. It's amazing how much more traffic there is at night on some of those trails. Especialy the John Muir trail which is like the I-5 of the trail system. By the way I dig that waterfall in your signature. Where is that at?


Yeah, it's really tempting to want to forego the tablets. Unfortunately, the little buggers can play havov with one's stomach. I once saw a guy drinking water from a mountain lake that had a dead Elk in it (the Elk had slid down the glacier that fed the lake). That just didn't seem like the world's greatest idea to me.

The waterfall shot is in Yellowstone National Park. It's the lower Yellowstone Falls in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. I woke up at 4:00 AM one morning so I could watch the sunrise in the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. That was a cool experience.

I've never done anything in the Sierras. Come to think of it, I've never done anything west of Colorado. Need to head out that way some day. My cousin has climbed Mt. Rainier and it looks like a cool climb. I need to bag Mt. Whitney so I can have the highest peak in the contiguous US (I've got Mt. Elbert...2nd highest). There's all kinds of stuff. Sigh, if I had the time and money...

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:29 PM
Throw a little cubed ham, turkey, and cheese into that salad and you have a deal! [dinner]

Marvelous here today - humidity several notches lower than it has been, so much more tolerable outside

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:48 PM
Jay - talked to daughter in Bemidji - she said it was in the 50's this morning -

I am reconsidering those mosquitoes....especially since it will be 100+ later this week!

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Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:41 PM
It is an absolutely perfect mid summer day here. Clear sky, low humidity, nice breeze and temps in the 80's. Almost makes one forget how dry it is.

Speaking rain and wind, I was just checking the track of Emily and also took a second look at Dennis. Two hits on the Gulf Coast, but both far from Houston. No doubt Ed put the voodoo on those storms and caused them to steer clear of his railroad.

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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:47 AM
Hi all,
CW , I wasn't aware of the ice cream for stars program. If I did I would have come in sooner. Make mine strawberry please.

[bday] Have a wonderfull birthday Nora !!!!!!

Chris,
Those purification tabs do kill the taste of water but I don't drink the water without em'. The sickest I've ever been in my life was from drinking out of a stream high up in the mountains. I used to do a lot of hiking up in the high Sierras and I learned early on that the trick is to go during a full moon and get up to 13,000 or so at night. It's amazing how much more traffic there is at night on some of those trails. Especialy the John Muir trail which is like the I-5 of the trail system. By the way I dig that waterfall in your signature. Where is that at?
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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:34 AM
Well, got potatoes, cucumbers, onions and salad mix. Sorry to say, Mookie,
they didn't have any watermelons for us. What a bummer.

Lunch today: BLTs with your choice of potato chips or french fries. Too hot
and muggy to be standing over a hot stove and oven.

Think supper will be salad night. Will fix large garden salads for everyone.
Ice cream sandwiches and orange cream pops for dessert.


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Posted by CopCarSS on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:12 AM
Tree,

Why couldn't you have told me this a couple years ago? I had to learn my soda lessons the hard way. When I first started climbing mountains out here, I'd always throw some water and some pop into the bag. Yeahhhh....bad idea. Not only does the pop not help the dehydration situation, it adds unnecessary weight which helps one dehydrate one even faster (which is already a real problem while exerting oneself up a 14,000' mountain on a hot day).

Needless to say, I've learned my lesson, and carry water only while climbing now. Also throw in a bottle of water purification tablets. Sure, the water tastes terrible, but when one is really thirsty, one doesn't notice it so much.

By the way, a belated [bday] to the birthday girl. Enjoy your twenty tenth!

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:59 AM
about time nora came in here.mookies right time to go to bed.not a good night at work. a couple pop tarts please.
stay safe
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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:59 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409


When you say tea, do you mean canned tea, herbal tea, or what? Because I drink a lot of REAL tea, not that canned stuff.

The problem is the caffiene - a natural diuretic. You're trying to get fluids in you, and your body is trying to get them out.

Add to that something called "osmolarity." That's how fast your body can absorb a liquid. Water has a value of 32 - soaks right it. Most sodas are in the 700 range - takes them a long time to absorb. Sports drinks are around 320 - a good value. Cranberry juice is about 900. The problem with a caffienated soda (especially "Dew") is that they have caffiene, the diuretic, and high "osm's", so you're thirsty, have to p**, and have a big lump of soda laying in your stomach making you uncomfortable.

Herbal teas probably aren't a problem in that respect. Even regular tea isn't as bad as coffee or a lot of colas.

There - your health lesson for the day...

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:49 AM
[{(-_-)}] hmmmmmm[:-^] gonna make some lunch items.....

Let's see - potato salad - bag of salad mix and one, no, two potatoes. Ok - simple enough. Kinda pretty with the red skins still on. Pretty crunchy which is always good...

Next - want to make Fishy Paws, but CW didn't order goldfish, so will go with a recipe I saw in the paper......Stone Soup. Well, ok - cold water and a stone. Whatever. Humans eat the strangest things. [wow][tup]

Now to the important part of the lunch -

@

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 5:35 AM
Nora, glad you had a nice birthday. Just remember the comments from
your boys, and when they each reach their 29th birthday, you can tell them
what they said when you turned 29!! They'll never believe they said that!!

Breakfast is all laid out for everyone. Produce truck will be back today, and
I'm getting ready to head out the door soon. Hopefully, we'll get some GOOD
produce today, and not things that are wilted, turning brown, etc. Maybe they'll
even have some watermelons for us!! Keep your fingers crossed, Mookie.
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 18, 2005 10:25 PM
'Bout time you made an appearance!

[bday][bday][bday]
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Posted by Nora on Monday, July 18, 2005 10:09 PM
Thanks for all the birthday wishes; I just got home from work and rarely visit this thread at any rate (would rather eat real food than talk about imaginary food, which has been one of my problems all along).

Jay (age 4) says that twenty-ten is what comes after twenty-nine. So we'll say I'm twenty-ten -- that's better than Charlie (age 2.5), who insists for some reason that I am now sixty-two!

For my birthday at work I got to see my very first Norange engine with the new logo. I still don't care for it but it was at least neat to see one in person for the first time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 18, 2005 10:02 PM
Evenin' all. Just dropped in to let everyone know I'm still alive (just very tired) Double shifting sucks. Now they're talking about sending some of the stupidvisors to our other facility in Rochelle. When it rains, it pours. Only not for real in N. Illinois. Elm trees are dropping leaves like fall here on the sandbar. Well, going to do the three "S"s and go in and faaaallllllllaaslleeeep [zzz] [zzz] [zzz] Willy
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Posted by cherokee woman on Monday, July 18, 2005 6:14 PM
Nora: "come out, come out, wherever you are!" We want to wish you a
Happy Birthday, girlfriend!!

Looks like everyone's enjoying the spaghetti and meat balls. Do you like
the small meatballs I made? Almost mini-meatballs, aren't they?

Where in the heck is our esteemed owner of this establishment?!?! I see
him in other places on the forum, but haven't seen him in here!
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