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An encounter with the BNSF police

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Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:13 AM

 What exactly does a BNSF officer need with an ID? I highly doubt they can run a search on it...

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:35 AM

Were your locations at the 45 ft. and 50 ft. away from the rails both still on BNSF property [Q]  Or, were you on a public street by then [Q] - in which case I wonder why you moved further away - or not, in which case it's understandable. 

Oh, by the way - which one of you held the measuring tape at the nearest railhead so as to know that you were only 45 ft. away from it [Q]  Mischief

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:04 AM

As a general rule, my encounters with CSX special agents have been pretty good.  I received an appropriate lecture when I was where I shouldn't be (at Barr) but he did answer my questions in order to avoid a future encounter.  I've also met them several times at Blue Island crossing and they've always been pleasant since I've confined myself to the sidewalks for my trainwatching and photographing.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:34 AM

Sounds like George Orwell's 1984 to me. I agree that the railway has a right to enforce their rules on their property...so I can't fault them for that...but...what a society we've become when all around us are suspicious and we need to show ID just for being parked somewhere to watch trains.

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Posted by Chris30 on Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:02 AM

I had the pleasure of dealing with the BNSF police a couple of Saturdays ago when riding the Metra BNSF line downtown and back from Rt 59. BNSF called in their police from accross the country to help assist with the large weekend crowd going to / coming from several large weekend events in Chicago. Between two and four officers were assigned to each train. I stand in the vestibule a lot so that I can listen to the scanner, talk to the train crew and avoid the sometimes large crowds that pack into the train cars on summer weekends. All of the BNSF officers, except for one jerk, were very profesional and friendly. I won't bad mouth the one officer who I referred to as a "jerk" out of respect for the other BNSF officers except to say that if your job is to maintain the peace don't create your own personal chaos. A lot of people who ride Metra have their habbits and when one officer enforces their own personal rule system the first reaction is usually a "what?" response.

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Posted by blhanel on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:16 PM

I'm innocent- haven't been there in awhile.Big Smile

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An encounter with the BNSF police
Posted by eolafan on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:39 PM

This evening while in Dubuque, IA on business I grabbed a Subway sandwich and drove to C.P. "East Cabin in East Dubuque on the BNSF main line to exercise our hobby.  I had my car facing the main line and was approx. 45 feet from the rail-head and all of a sudden here comes a BNSF police Ford Explorer.  The BNSF fellow put his "gumball" lights on and proceeded to ask what I was there for.  I immediately responded "watching trains"...he asked for ID and I gave him my BNSF Citizens for Rail Safety card which he cheerfully accepted as ID.  He asked me if I hung around that point often and I told him no and told him where I typically railfanned.  He told me they had some railfan who hung around there alot but was not being safe...being too close to the rail and setting his tripod on or very near the tracks.  I had about a fifteen minute and very nice subsequent conversation with this man and he went on his way (I also backed up my car another five feet as he said the rule was to be at least 50 feet from the rails.

If you are the railfan who frequents East Cabin CP in East Dubuque...my suggestion is for you to stay farther back from the rail or find another place to watch trains as the BNSF police AND the East Dubuque Police are aware of you and are looking for you as some citizens have evidently complained about you...a word to the wise (as they say) is sufficient.

Eolafan (a.k.a. Jim)

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