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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:55 AM

CSX didn't come into the picture as an operating entity until 1986 or so, so in 1980 your host still would have been the C&O between Cottage Grove and Wellsboro, Indiana. Or, you could say it was the Chessie System all the way, but the two end-points of that leg were on B&O trackage by that time.

If you've got family in Bolingbrook, you could probably ride Metra out to Naperville and visit with them--then get back on the Zephyr at Naperville that afternoon. Thursday and Friday, unfortunately, are work days for me.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:11 PM

Deggesty
was it already CSX then?

 

Johnny.....Not sure, but I believe it was.  Many times I used to drive into town {we're 5 mi. west of Muncie}, just to catch the Cardinal in the evening.  Now I've walked and ridden bicycle on that route.   It really is a nice trail.

The Depot was in horrible condition back when you passed thru...but they spent $800,000 to put it back to it's original condition.  Including the roof dormers {that had been removed}, and installed the real clay tile roof to it's original spec., etc....

It really is nice.  And the Trail is heavily used....Very popular.  But I'd settle for the RR being back on the R of W and having the Depot redone as it is and passenger trains using it......But we know that was yesterday and at least the route has been preserved and it's popular with folks from several countys.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:56 PM

Quentin, I went through your town on the Cardinal in 1980. Somewhere in Indiana, the air pump began having problems, and we had to wait until the host road (was it already CSX then? I have not kept up with dates) provided us with a couple of Geeps (I think that is what they were). As a result, we were late getting into Cincinnati and from there on, arriving in Washington in the afternoon. About lunchtime, the café attendant announced that the sandwiches he had left would be given away before they spoiled (my first "free" meal on a train).

Carl, thanks for the invitation. We will be coming into Chicago Thursday 23 April, and leaving the next afternoon. Unless there is some foulup at the Palmer House, we will fulfill one of Ricki’s long-standing wishes and stay there. I have sent my nephew in Bolingbrook a note, telling him our plans; I do not know yet what he and his wife will be able to do.

Ricki was born in Evanston. Her father was transferred to Memphis when she was about ten years old, and the family stayed at the Peabody Hotel until they were able to find a place to live–but Ricki was in boarding school in Wisconsin, and was not able to go down with the family because a measles epidemic kept all the girls at Beaver Dam. So, instead of going down by the IC, she flew–and the family already had a place to live by the time she arrived. In later years, she felt done out of the opportunity to stay at the Peabody, so we had a reservation to stay there two years ago. When we arrived, we learned that a large group had decided to spend another night there, and there was no room for us at that inn. The Peabody put us up at another, nearby, hotel, and gave us a raincheck–which we cashed in last year, going to Memphis just to stay at the Peabody. We did not, however, get off the City of New Orleans at Memphis, we went on down to Greenwood, Miss., rented a car, drove to Memphis, spent the night, and went back to Greenwood to go back to Chicago. The train times in Greenwood were much more passenger-friendly.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:01 PM

Wow--so many people to respond to!

Dan, trust me--even the Mounds would bring you Joy! Wink

Larry, I am pretty sure that Emily learned to walk a lot more quickly because Katelyn (17 months older) was able to do it. I'm not sure the same will apply to cousins, though, unless they spend a lot of time together.

Johnny, if your Chicago layover permits (length, day of week, schedule times), and you have the urge to do a little exploring, let us know. We could always put you back on the train in Naperville. That sounds like a fantastic trip! (Which reminds me--I have to call my sister and see how their Amtrak trip went.)

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:00 PM

Deggesty
and take the Cardinal

 

.....What an outstanding trip.

You mention the Cardinal Johnny....it used to pass right thru Muncie here, but the R of W is and has been for 5 or 6 years now, our Cardinal Greenway Trail.  More than 30 miles {and more being done}, are paved and our depot has been beautifully restored and updated with new mechanicals, etc....and now is the Trail Head {offices, etc.}, here.  This route was abandoned about 1994 and removed.  A former C&O route.

It's a beautiful trail. 

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:45 PM

CShaveRR

Johnny, tell us about your upcoming trip!

Carl, you asked for it.

First, when we take a trip for pleasure, we take a trip. The main idea is that we travel by train, and we usually are able to get some visiting in, as well, even if it means that we have to rent a car to see some people (I am a little old to ride the rods, and Ricki would not be able to ride them). Our next trip (our bags are not packed, but we have all the reservations) takes us to Sacramento, up to Seattle for a night, and then to Vancouver, where we will take the Canadian to Jasper. One of our desires is to stay in old hotels, such as the Banff Springs, where we will drive from Jasper (we stayed at the Chateau Lake Louise six years ago), the Palliser in Calgary, and the MacDonald in Edmonton. We have reservations for those. Then, on to Moncton, N. B. (Jasper to Toronto to Montreal to Moncton), with a drawing room on all of the eastbound long distance trains (you have to reserve such early on the Canadian). We had planned to spend a night in Charlottetown at the old CN hotel there--but we are arriving in Moncton on Good Friday, and the rental car offices are not open. So, two nights in Moncton, with a day trip to Charlottetown, and then a night in Fredericton before we head back to Montreal in a Renaissance bedroom (may it be the last such a sleeper for us). 

From there, we will go down to Rensselaer, and spend the night in Albany, before heading down to Washington, where we will rent a car for a trip to Bristol, Tennessee, for the fiftieth reunion of the college class I graduated with (we were at the fiftieth reunion of my starting class last year). The reunion date determined the travel dates. We go back to Washington by way of Tidewater Virginia (my father was from Lancaster county), spend a night, and take the Cardinal (it's almost as difficult to get a bedroom on this train as it is to get a drawing room on the Canadian; last year I wanted to take the Cardinal both ways between Chicago and Washington, but no bedroom was available either way, and one "roomette" {which cost more than a bedroom on the Capitol Limited the same day} was available westbound; we took the Capitol both ways) to Chicago. After one night there, we head back home, returning four weeks to the day from leaving. We are using the North American Railpass which has not been offered since the end of last September.

We had an interesting snowfall yesterday. I saw a report that Ogden received two feet and the Salt Lake airport received less than an inch. I am not sure how much we received. but as I remarked yesterday evening, it was all gone from the driving surfaces before the day was over. Our temperature was in the thirties this morning.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:39 PM

Dan spring is on the way.Just have to get past this weekend according to the weather guessers.Cw thanks for supper.Time for us to finish up chores,get cleaned up and head for work.

stay safe

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:05 PM

It's been a while CW/Mook.  Misty and I are both well.  She's got a bit of a 'baby bump' and I think I felt Sprout move the other day.  Pretty exciting!

Gotta get more dishes done, trash out, and then shovel some of that evil white precipitation off of the sidewalk.  Yep, I've had my fill 'o winter.  It can get warm now...

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:22 AM

Dan, welcome back!  Been wondering how you & Missy are doing!  

Dan and Mookie:  I love anything with coconut, so I will eat both Almond Joy and Mounds (even though I don't think that's what Dan is referring to!)  And I love the chocolate covered coconut eggs you can get around Easter time.  Has anyone else noticed that the size of those coconut eggs has really dimenished in size in the last few years?  And the price has gone up, for the lesser size, too.Sad

Today's afternoon and evening menu will be:  lasagna w/garlic bread and tossed salad (or Caesar salad).

Had to go out for about an hour this morning, and I couldn't decide if it was a hard drizzle or a light rain.  Right now, we have sunshine, and it's breezy outside.  Temp is already in the 57 to 59 degree range, depending on your location.  Guess the temps will start dropping, as we're supposed to be in the low to mid 20s sometime this evening/overnight.  Some thundershowers are beginning to show up south to southeast of Louisville.  

Everyone have a good afternoon, enjoy your lunch, and I'll see you all later on.

 

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:50 AM

CNW 6000

...and common sense, too!

Thought I'd pop in and say hi.  Been busy around the house getting ready for the baby.  7/8/09 is coming fast!  Thursday we find out: Almond Joy or Mounds....Whistling

Until today - Almond Joy was a favorite of mine.  Now I want to rethink this!  Blush

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:55 AM

.....I cannot report sunshine today....Light misty  rain overnight and cloudy with mid 40's temps now.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:06 AM

Mookie
Tree:  Do you read Baby Blues in the comics?  If not, you might want to go look at this week's strip.  Their youngest is learning to walk and is all alone.  I think you can relate to them.

Most assuredly!    I've been saying that once she "found" her feet she'd be gone....

What may be even more interesting will be a year and change from now (late April, actually), when grandchild #2 is a year old, seeing how this one interacts with her cousin.  Will she be egging him on to walk?

On Light Rail.   My mother lives in Phoenix and is less than impressed by their new light rail, if only because at present the route doesn't even come close to serving her area.  I suspect that by the time it gets into her neck of the woods she won't be around to use it.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:57 AM

...and common sense, too!

Thought I'd pop in and say hi.  Been busy around the house getting ready for the baby.  7/8/09 is coming fast!  Thursday we find out: Almond Joy or Mounds....Whistling

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:54 AM

switch7frg

Ms. Mookie,  light rail is truly an exciting ride .  Down in Phx. the rail opened this mo.  It seems like people are trying to derail the train by turning in front of it. But the train always wins . At worst , the train suffers a broken bumper and the car is junkyard bound.  No folks are hurt as train runs @ roaring 20 m.p.h. , sometimes less. Yes indeed, would be exciting to ride to say the least .  LOL . Respectfully , Cannonball

Cannonball:  I remember Houston Ed writing about their excursion into light rail about a year ago.  Seems people just don't see something that big, even tho it is up close and personal.  I laugh almost every time we watch trains at our site - people will drive for 3 blocks only to get up to the crossing and decide that "yes, that is a train"!  Guess it isn't only the hearing that is going away in this USA, but the eyesight as well!

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:46 AM

tree68

After a great visit with granddaughter this past weekend (not to mention her parents), son sent cell phone video of the little rock star (you should have seen her on the electronic keyboard!) almost walking with one of her toys.  By the time she hits a year old (two+ weeks) I suspect she'll be a tiny bullet.  She's got marvelous balance already. 

 

Tree:  Do you read Baby Blues in the comics?  If not, you might want to go look at this week's strip.  Their youngest is learning to walk and is all alone.  I think you can relate to them.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:40 AM

Mostly cloudy right now, but nothing falling.  That comes later in the day.

The Dal goes in to get his stitches out this afternoon (hopefully).  A few more days with a dressing on the area and he'll be back to normal.  His problem is obsessive licking if he gets nervous - I'm afraid he'll lick the area raw.

After a great visit with granddaughter this past weekend (not to mention her parents), son sent cell phone video of the little rock star (you should have seen her on the electronic keyboard!) almost walking with one of her toys.  By the time she hits a year old (two+ weeks) I suspect she'll be a tiny bullet.  She's got marvelous balance already. 

Work awaits.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:06 AM

morning

matt is on time for school.we have a light rain falling now.good sleeping weather.there is a k 695  conductor walking his train near sherwood.hope its nothing major.Cw thanks for breakfast.time for a nap.

stay safe

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:52 AM

Good Wednesday morning, everyone.  Starting out with off & on rain showers, with a temp in the 46, 47 degree range.  Apparently, we had some heavy rain and thunder through the night sometime.  But I never heard anything, so it must have bypassed our neighborhood. Looking for a high in the mid 50s for today.  Tomorrow is when we're supposed to see snow return.  Maybe it won't be much.

Coffee, juices, hot chocolate and hot water for tea are ready.  

On the warmer bar this morning:  bagels, bear claws, cinnamon rolls and muffins (bran, blueberry, chocolate, cornbread).  

Have a good morning, everyone, and take care.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:19 AM

I have no doubt at all of that, Johnny--Katelyn knows that I like trains, and always have, but at her age I was scared of them close-up, too (as I was for any loud noises, from vacuum cleaners to power tools, even kitchen appliances).

Johnny, tell us about your upcoming trip!

Rain and fog outside now, possibly with some snow mixed in. There won't be too much evidence of this one come tonight.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:35 PM

Carl, give your four-year-old graddaughter enough time; she should get over it. I got over the beginning of my first trip (I was two years old), which began with my screaming for fifteen or twenty minutes. That night, as we were leaving Jacksonville, my brothers were looking out the window with a coat blocking the light from the inside of the cocah, and I remember looking out, too. I do not remember what I saw. Ricki tells me that once when she was quite young, she and her father went into Chicago from Evanston, and as they were walking into the station the engineer opened the cyclinder petcocks just as they reached the engine. She sat down, and refused to move until the petcocks were closed. We met on the City of Portland on 15 April 1971--we were on the train for the same reason--it would be discontinued after 30 April. If we were able, we would travel much more often than we do. As it is, we are both looking forward to the trip we have planned for this spring.

We had snow off and on during the day, but it si all gone from the street, sidewalk, and driveway now.

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Posted by switch7frg on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:30 PM

Ms. Mookie,  light rail is truly an exciting ride .  Down in Phx. the rail opened this mo.  It seems like people are trying to derail the train by turning in front of it. But the train always wins . At worst , the train suffers a broken bumper and the car is junkyard bound.  No folks are hurt as train runs @ roaring 20 m.p.h. , sometimes less. Yes indeed, would be exciting to ride to say the least .  LOL . Respectfully , Cannonball

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:03 PM

Rain to go to work with tomorrow, snow to drive home with. Fun!

Interesting day with grandchildren today--we actually babysat them while Mom went out shopping. Four-year-old doesn't like loud noises, and is therefore scared of trains (I only wish I could have checked this out with her!). However, we found an interest in maps that we can work with. Two-year-old doesn't do (or refrain from doing) anything you tell her without asking "Why?" Baby was very congested--wanted to smile and play, but couldn't for a while. Mom came home, worked her magic, and he was a riot for the rest of the visit.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:24 PM

CW - Driver came home today with a stuffy nose, no voice and the after effects of 1/2 a Benedryl type pill.  Went to bed at 2:30 pm.  The annual "warm temps, wind out of south" allergy.  He's feeling a little better tonite -

He will have the hot sauce - I will stick with very mild. 

Back to winter weather tomorrow - nasty north wind, bits of cloud dandruff and the skies will be cloudy all day Whistling  (RJ that's for you!)

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:02 PM

Thanks, Paula. It does help to try to satisfy the various likings by having various sauces available. This time of the year, Ricki really appreciates hot tea. You remind me of the first time I ate a taco--somewhere between Palos Verdes Peninsula and the Orange Empire Museum. I was visiting a young man I had met the previous fall on the (I can't remember what Amtrak first called the Coast Starlight--senior moment), and his father (he must have wanted to go, too) took us down to the museum. I reached for a bottle of sauce, and I was told that it was hot. It was not hot, but was only like what is called on the label "Louisiana Hot Sauce." If you want real Louisiana hot sauce, use the original Tabasco.

Don't sear your throat.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:52 PM

 

Deggesty
Paula, thanks for lunch; it all looks good to me. Ricki will avoid it, since she has never liked anything spicy hot. I have backed off some in the last year or so (I don't know if it is a holdover from chemo, or simply more age), but I still enjoy a bit.

Johnny, tell Ricki that she won't have to worry about spicy hot in here.  I make everything mild, but have the extra sauces available for anyone who prefers their food a little more spicy.  I put a little bit of medium sauce on mine, sometimes a little bit of hot , but not very often.  May try a little bit of hot tonight, and see if I can burn away my sore throat.  

The warmer bar is refreshed with fresh everything, so you all can enjoy a good 'heat hot' supper, not necessarily a 'spicy hot' supper.

Not sure what time our rain is supposed to be coming into the area.  Wasn't watching the local news report.  Everyone have a good evening, enjoy your supper, and take care.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:34 PM

Paula, thanks for lunch; it all looks good to me. Ricki will avoid it, since she has never liked anything spicy hot. I have backed off some in the last year or so (I don't know if it is a holdover from chemo, or simply more age), but I still enjoy a bit.

It started snowing about the time I began my morning walk, and the wind was a bit much, so I cut it short. When I came back, I thought I would have to clean snow off the driveway and walks--but by the time I was ready to go out, it was almost all melted from the concrete. It is snowing, lightly, again.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:54 AM

Good afternoon everyone.  Warming up nicely outside:  plenty of sunshine, and a temp in the mid  to upper 40s.  Didn't have a lot of people show up for Tuesday Produce, only about 46 people.  I brought home cabbage and a bag of potatoes.  The lettuce, red peppers and yellow squash just didn't look that good to me, so I passed on by them.

Today will be Mexican Fiesta Day.  On the menu:  

1.  Burritos (beef, beef & bean, and beef enchilada style)  2.  Tacos (soft shell and hard shell)  3.  Chimichangas  4.  Fajitas  5.  spanish rice.  There's also some shredded lettuce w/tomato; lettuce on the side, so anyone who doesn't want the onion, doesn't have to have it.  And we also have tortilla chips with your choice of picante sauce, salsa, or con queso.

Everyone have a good afternoon, enjoy the nice weather, keep safe and take care.

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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:43 AM

.....Off to the dentist in about an hour....Cap to come off....repair supporting tooth....hopefully re assemble back together.

And another day started out with sunshine and normal Winter temps.  Believe it is to be dry all day.

Wonder where all that weather on the west coast is headed.......?

Shoo it up above us as it traveles east....I hope.  It could spoil our several weeks now of quiet weather patterns.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:05 AM

Ed

sorry to hear about your car.mamma or matt answer my phone for me while I drive.I was about to use mine the other day when a lost semi truck decided to suddenly try to turn on our road.matt is on time and on the bus.Cw thanks for breakfast.time for a nap.chores this afternoon.

stay safe

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:35 AM

Deggesty

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Big Q,

Had one of the originals, 71 with the 440 wedge...this one is 24" shorter, and about 700lbs lighter...and much faster.

But the old one was fun...you didnt drive it really...you pointed it in the direction you hoped to go, stomped the gas, and prayed no one got in the way....this one has so much computer assisted stuff like the handleing package that getting it sideways is almost impossible...plus the radio/navigation/phone system is outa the world cool...the old one had an 8 track...

Modelcar

.......Enjoy Ed....Looks nice.  Being a car guy, I know what it is. 

Heard M C mention you helped the economy with a new one.....Hope lots more folks do the same.

24.6 degrees here this morning....a little surprise of it being that low, but the big red sun ball is already above the horizon and it will be warming stuff somewhat.  Clear sky.

Johnny,
The reason I bought this one is because the Magnum was rear ended…lady at a stop light reading her day planner and talking on her cell phone, light turned green, she stomps the gas, goes 100 yards and plows into the kid behind me, never looked up or put down the phone….he went airborne into the rear hatch of the Magnum.
Never could get the Magnum fixed properly, so…
I don’t use a cell phone often, in fact, at the railroad, I simply leave my phone in the car…I might make 3 or 4 calls a day max.
The nice thing about this set up is it is all voice activated once you turn it on….you never have to look at a phone or a display, and the sound/phone voice is part of the stereo system, music drops away when the phone is active.
Incoming calls are neat, the car will tell you “Incoming phone call from “Aimee”, answer yes or no?”
If you say no, the car hangs up the phone, you don’t fumble for a cell phone or have to try and read a little display to see who is calling you.
As for being distracted…well, I live in a city where people eat breakfast, read the paper, talk on their hand held cell and drink coffee, all while singing to the radio and driving at the same time…with this set up it is very much like having a conversation with someone in the front seat.

Ed, if you want to go sideways, come to Salt Lake City in the winter; you may have an opportunity to go down a street sideways without even trying. This almost happened to Ricki several years ago (I was not in the car, so I do not know what she said). She came out of the situation safely.

She never did learn to drive a stick shift--so she did not drive the car I had when we married nor the pickup I later had for about two years. I think I can still drive one, though it has been close to twenty years since I drove one.  

As to cell phones, I hope no one ever feels it necessary to tell you, "Put that binkie down!" (Some people seem to be afraid to be away from a telephone at any time, and a cell phone is almost like a binkie for them). A few years ago, we were going to go into a store, and as we came up to the front of it, a man backed out of a parking place--and stopped to talk on his phone. I honked my horn, and it did not bother him at all, but when I walked up to his door, he realized that he was blocking traffic and moved. A few months ago, someone was either talking or texting while traveling on a freeeway, was rear-ended, and caused quite a traffic slow-down. Be careful; it's not just using your hands with the telephone, but a conversation with someone who is not in the car with you can be distracting--the other person cannot see what's in front of you and warn you of any danger. 

Sunshine here today; we did have about two or three inches of snow in the valley yesterday morning.

Johnny

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