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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, April 1, 2004 6:40 AM
My morning was starting out pretty well. The sun was just starting to tinge the sky. The birds were waking up singing.

Now I have a mild headache and my eyes are crossed. My metaphors are mixed and the English language just went south. I think Frank Zappa just returned to life - but I am not sure, since I never did care for him.

At least when you people argue back and forth, I can understand it. It may not be pretty, but it makes a little sense. Now, what was the original discussion?

Oh yes - Rule G. Well, seems we have to have some rules to protect some people from some other people. So the problem is?

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Posted by rixflix on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:26 PM
Shaaadowy dharmon, everyone needs a good alter-ego, don't you agree? Glad I helped you find yours and any time you are near LZ Uplift, drop in and we'll goof on the roof. It's the one with three layers of bags over psp and I will be the one doing free-form percussion on a guitar that somebody smashed up. My buddy Fancher (our only musician) will be playing a trippy guitar and my best friend Hanley (he was Cosby and I was Culp) will be featuring hemp-raspy vocals and wearing shades at night!!!
More about me 'n' Bill Hanley ( we both subscribed to Downbeat Magazine throughout the tour} in a forthcoming monograph or ...dare I say it?...book.
Even then we thought all that roof protection was a good thing. We didn't have to sit on our helmets while the quiet, ticking-bomb letter writers downstairs were ratcheting into their nocturnal deliriae. Was that good Latin or will Kevin come down upon it while I sleep? I guess I'll sleep tight now hoping the scorpions don't bite.
Gerunds are always good this time of the year, and we've got 'em!!!
grammar grocer
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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bigedd

Union's are crap. They had there time and place.Did any one ever notice that all
the union reps are the dog f**kers and complainers.I was a CAW member for many
years then with management then you have put up even more with all the babies.
Now I work for myself and could not be happier.
CSX if you want to go have a hoot pack it in. Things got way out of
hand and it is to bad that the railways waited until something had to happen.
But thats the only way the railway will ever change things.
I seen many things in my years working for the railway if you dont like it do something
about it.Rule G is here to stay so get over it.
once agin..someone that only reads the words they want to read.......
and as far as your anti union thinking....
you work for yourself now..meaning your managment... managment donst like unions becouse they have to give something to workers.. to get the worker to work... meaning money..benifits....cutting into the bottom line of the amount of money managment makes...
the unions got wages for workers that a man that is carfull of how he spends his money ..can live a comfortable life... as well as benifits.... face it.....if not for the unions.... we all would be working for mimimum wage... as far as your biz goes...im betting you pay your workers more then min wage......or if you are paying minimum wage..im betting your haveing problems getting good help
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:33 PM
Union's are crap. They had there time and place.Did any one ever notice that all
the union reps are the dog f**kers and complainers.I was a CAW member for many
years then with management then you have put up even more with all the babies.
Now I work for myself and could not be happier.
CSX if you want to go have a hoot pack it in. Things got way out of
hand and it is to bad that the railways waited until something had to happen.
But thats the only way the railway will ever change things.
I seen many things in my years working for the railway if you dont like it do something
about it.Rule G is here to stay so get over it.
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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:26 PM
what makes you the judge that someone is wrong...
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:24 PM
And over...when people aren't open minded enough to accept the fact that they are wrong.

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:21 PM
sometimes discussions become heated....
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:18 PM
I'm talking about this being a forum...a discussion board...not a democratic rally. In here we like to DISCUSS things and not argue and destroy each other.

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:15 PM
up train
to you it might be stupied... to the people that are fighting...its not..or they wouldnt be fighting...
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:12 PM
I;m not a hippie or a liberal I just hate to see fights over stupid irrelevant things.

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by UPTRAIN

Your all starting to **** me off I just hate to see people fight over stupid things like... ooooh GOD you have an accent (like me). Well F*** you for telling me I have an ACCENT!!! THE KIND OF STUFF LIKE THAT IS WHAT GETS UNDER MY SKINI!! Get along for the love of God!!!
this is not a world of love and kindness....dispite what the hippies and liberals would want you to believe......people are not always going to get along...
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:09 PM
Amen CSX...except for the weed and beer part...lol.

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

CSX,
I didn't just focus on a few words I read the whole thing but I didn't understand what you meant but maybe if your spelling was readable and I could understand it maybe I would get it right

DOGGY
ok doggy
here is my case....in the best english i can type....
1..i do follow rule G..my paycheck is more importaint then drinking a beer befor work...
2..like i said in the ricky gates post...i feel that he rolled on all rail roaders to save his own ***...or the more i think about it..to be made a political tool for Regons war on drugs...
3... i have smoked weed in the past..befor my years on the rail road..and i woudnt have any problem with tokeing up agin...on my own time...but becouse of the testing that is uses to see if someone has weed in their system...and also the rate that the THC stays in the human body...even if i where to smoke up on my off day..or even on my vacation...i can still be nailed for a positve test up to 30 days later... which goes aginst my views of seporation of work and what i do on my own time....
4... i am for unions... im in a union... and i fight for things that are to help fellow rail roaders..and workers.... i am not affrade to go up aginst managment ....
5..i distrust the UTU becouse of some of thier shadey dealings on past contracts... and the fact that they have turned into tools for the carriers...(RCLs)
so know you know in clear english...
now you can put an end to your personal attacks at my responces that have nothing to do with you...like you did when i told RIX..."WELL SAID"....

ok... how i hope we are on the same page...
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:54 PM
Your all starting to **** me off I just hate to see people fight over stupid things like... ooooh GOD you have an accent (like me). Well F*** you for telling me I have an ACCENT!!! THE KIND OF STUFF LIKE THAT IS WHAT GETS UNDER MY SKINI!! Get along for the love of God!!!

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:52 PM
Oh yeah, just get the hell along yall and quit fighting like little kids.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:49 PM
CSX,
I didn't just focus on a few words I read the whole thing but I didn't understand what you meant but maybe if your spelling was readable and I could understand it maybe I would get it right

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

CSX,
Just a suggestion.

Instead of making a flat statement, along the lines of "this is what I think, and if you dont like it, screw you!", why dont you try explaining to Doggy why you think and feel the way you do about this issue.

Do what adults are supposed to do when dealing with young people...teach, not preach.
Just wondering why you offer a confrontation, instead of a explaination.
Dont you see that, as a young kid, it is reflex to disagree with anyone older?

Bet if you slowed down, and explained how and why you think that way, you could make a good case.

Just a suggestion, OK?

Stay Frosty,
Ed
i have tried to pleade my case...but people like doggy didnt read 100% what i said....or if they did..they only focused on a few words... its hard for someone to try and make a case when the other party isnt getting it....or dosnt want to get it
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:38 PM
I most certainly support this rule.

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Posted by rixflix on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:31 PM
Wow!!! What a great weekend party and a nice break from seventh step work and the more serious things that I have to deal with elsewhere. Of course Monday and even Tuesday were kinda rough but now it's Wednesday and regrets are in order.
***Peter Ustinov, I'm sorry you left early but I guess you had to die. If you'd stuck around for our "finest of plunge-surfing for your amusement" exhibition on Saturday night, I'm sure it would have revived your zest for life. You might still be cavorting amongst us below that croissant of dead spinach you were wearing.
***Doggy, I have a serious confession to make. My dad used to affectionately call me "The Kicker Dawg" when I was wee. No dad, even though my shrink says so, I DON'T think it helped put me in the state I'm in, and I DON'T HATE YOU ALL THE TIME!!!.
Sorry Doggy, I almost derailed there. He gets me "worried and scared" when he keeps telling our family, "the purpose of life is to get into heaven" when he's the only one with one foot into it. I often have one foot in my mouth and don't go around recommending It!!! I would support Rule G if Rule G would support me..... or if he were Kerry's running-mate.
***Wish I'd been clearer and placed the half-buried decorative tires so that they surrounded the patio area instead of the pool water. I promise to get better with the tiki torches I've just ordered.
***Sorry too, if I stepped on anyone's flip-flops. Forgot to take of my replica stormtrooper (that Argentine leather feels great) boots. I had just returned from smashing bad sentences in Kevin's World.

While I may have other regrets, there's no time to waste now. The next weekend approaches but will be very different..You can all use my pool but watch out for the broken apertif and demi-tasse glasses on the bottom when you surf. Yes, I saw some of you still out there when I went to work Monday !!!
Mooks, raise (raise.....raise.....yes that's the word) up your ears because your advice may be required later. If I'm Barley, then my son is Corn, and last week we posted him off to a wonderful rehab center some ways off. My ex-wife and I, his doting and possibly enabling parents scouted out the local B&B's for this weekend's three-day family conference. We are not Red Roof Inn people (The Red Roof Lobster House Inn?). The B&B's were all maniacally charming and romantic!!! Exiting one, she commented that the bed (we never saw two in a room) seemed pretty narrow. I wittily suggested that maybe people didn't have efficient home heating back then, or were narrower, but were definitely shorter.
Now we have been happily divorced for twenty years and are glad to have become immediate and fast friends again for it. Because she is very direct and I am very circumspect, we always know within a couple of hours of being together why marriage was never in our cards.
The Ratty Mind (thanks, Sandy Beach) never sleeps, howeverIII
We both know we don't need another issue (heh-heh-heh, like our son} and will do the right thing, but fantasies don't sleep either. Let's see, the amish bundling board, clinging to the edge of the mattress, the split doubles headboard to footboard wedgie with clenched teeth technique?.
'Nuff said. I have to finish putting the Bright in my tighty-whity dides. No diapers on my butt friends. Tomorrow night I'll lay out my clothes in preparation. Wish me well all, and Betting Is Not Allowed. Have fun at the Club G!!!
Faithfully, Rick
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P.S. we've got a special on participles. They don't dangle too much, but we must clear them out before fresher and stiffer ones come in a few weeks. In my absence ask my clerk, Rutabaga..

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Doggy,

You have some people on this forum who are definitely your friends, whether you realize it or not. Some have given you some good advice, and I hope you'll follow it. At least one, whose opinions I value very highly, has spoken up on your behalf.

I hope you'll e-mail me off-list.

Carl

Thank You eveyone who has given me good advice even you CSX have given me good advice and You are my friends. I've always been convertial in life with some things I've said but we don't want to get into them don't we.

DOGGY


Hey Doggy, where is my e-mail?

A lot of peopel are firends with you, and would loike to have a better ability to communicate with yopu- like me.

i'd love to speak with you "off the record"

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Doggy,

You have some people on this forum who are definitely your friends, whether you realize it or not. Some have given you some good advice, and I hope you'll follow it. At least one, whose opinions I value very highly, has spoken up on your behalf.

I hope you'll e-mail me off-list.

Carl

Thank You eveyone who has given me good advice even you CSX have given me good advice and You are my friends. I've always been convertial in life with some things I've said but we don't want to get into them don't we.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:24 PM
Doggy,

You have some people on this forum who are definitely your friends, whether you realize it or not. Some have given you some good advice, and I hope you'll follow it. At least one, whose opinions I value very highly, has spoken up on your behalf.

I hope you'll e-mail me off-list.

Carl

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:32 AM
This thread is kind of like the Balkans now.....A couple of groups of folks that can't get along becasue of a couple of relatively stupid issues...pride and inability to communicate complicating it.....and the rest of the world content to let go at it for entertainment until they spill out of the box..then we have to whack them back in....neither side is listening, the rhetoric is old and whenever one side does something the other has to respond....

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:34 AM
CSX,
Just a suggestion.

Instead of making a flat statement, along the lines of "this is what I think, and if you dont like it, screw you!", why dont you try explaining to Doggy why you think and feel the way you do about this issue.

Do what adults are supposed to do when dealing with young people...teach, not preach.
Just wondering why you offer a confrontation, instead of a explaination.
Dont you see that, as a young kid, it is reflex to disagree with anyone older?

Bet if you slowed down, and explained how and why you think that way, you could make a good case.

Just a suggestion, OK?

Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

doggy,
first of all....im not a union rat...one thing you have to learn is...IF NOT FOR UNIONS....the working man wouldnt have half of the stuff we have now.... meaning...the rate of pay union and non union for specilzed job fields get payed....beniftes....sick days.... personal leave days.... vacation... the list can go on and on...we would all be working for minimum wage and no benifits....
as for many ranting about a union was my distrust for the UTU...... and that comment was made in the ricky gates posting.... no here....as for your personal attack on my english...dude...people in glass houses shouldnt through stones...take a look at yours.... and besides..my typeing and spelling my not be 100% but my postings make sence when you read them....yours have been nothing but the ramblings of a kid for days now...
i had no intention of turning this into a flamewar.... my oppions in the ricky gates fourm where for genreal reading...not you a personal attack aginst you..... but you seem to think that eveytime i post something... its a personal attack..... get over yourself.....most of my prevouse postings where not personal attacks..but you seem to want to make this personal.... the ball is your court.... you want to keep turning this fourm into a war zone...hell...bring it on.......
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Yes, CSx you do that.

What a Trophy! you can finally put the medal, or a Trophey on your mantal on the wall saying you verbally beat up a 12-15 year old.

Let's see who's winning: Well when it comes to brains, and the ability to act civil

Doggy: 1
Csx Engineer: Jack-all.
well...if he wants to run with the big dogs...he better be ready to scrap with them too
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:48 AM
WOW!
And I've been skipping this thread for days now! I nearly missed some of the best fun on the forums. Thanks, Mr. Grammar Grocer aka RAILFIX (sic - see above), thanx Mr. Shadow, Fade, Emory the Unihead, Ricky Gates, Vic, and the rest of you who are under the influence of something that'll never be subject to Rule G...

Oliver

BTW, this should be my post 0-10-0!
I wi***hose two stars could remain purple, I kinda like the color.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:05 PM
I hope Rule G will always be around and maybe expanded

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Rick Gates

Doggy- Larry is trying to say the cinders are being stirred again to create a fire. You do not have to answer each post you agree with or diagree with right away. Take some time to think about how important your response may be and stop making a personality contest of it. The number of post you make are not as important as consideration and respect for others. Check your dictionary for the word "antagonist." You do not have to do this every time someone disagrees. CSX98 may disagree with the invasion of rights that the implementation of Rule G provide for. He has stated however; that he follows the rule at work, when driving, etc. He takes responsibility and has a right to his opinion. Please respect it and simply agree to disagree. Thanks for making these posts that we may keep safety forefront in our minds. Making pesonal attacks distract from the topic. A mature person with class knows when to pick a battle. I'm not trying to criticize anyone, I am always prone to outburst and tantrums also. I hope I am learning to do better. Keep aspiring to be all you can be Doggy and thanks again.[soapbox]

I respect eveyone and I was thinking I shouldn't attack CSX at all about his posts some times I write some stupid responses but this one was important now I want to get back on the topic.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

doggy,
first of all....im not a union rat...one thing you have to learn is...IF NOT FOR UNIONS....the working man wouldnt have half of the stuff we have now.... meaning...the rate of pay union and non union for specilzed job fields get payed....beniftes....sick days.... personal leave days.... vacation... the list can go on and on...we would all be working for minimum wage and no benifits....
as for many ranting about a union was my distrust for the UTU...... and that comment was made in the ricky gates posting.... no here....as for your personal attack on my english...dude...people in glass houses shouldnt through stones...take a look at yours.... and besides..my typeing and spelling my not be 100% but my postings make sence when you read them....yours have been nothing but the ramblings of a kid for days now...
i had no intention of turning this into a flamewar.... my oppions in the ricky gates fourm where for genreal reading...not you a personal attack aginst you..... but you seem to think that eveytime i post something... its a personal attack..... get over yourself.....most of my prevouse postings where not personal attacks..but you seem to want to make this personal.... the ball is your court.... you want to keep turning this fourm into a war zone...hell...bring it on.......
csx engineer



Yes, CSx you do that.

What a Trophy! you can finally put the medal, or a Trophey on your mantal on the wall saying you verbally beat up a 12-15 year old.

Let's see who's winning: Well when it comes to brains, and the ability to act civil

Doggy: 1
Csx Engineer: Jack-all.
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Posted by Jordan6 on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:23 PM
As long as there's alcohol, there better be Rule G.[2c]

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