Do You support Rule G?

[edblysard]

Lets see if I got this straight.
Those of us old enough, and smart enough to zip it up with out getting our hands wet think rule G is a good thing,
Those here who think rule G is wrong are pretty much wizzing into the wind,
and a few of the folks here didnt think before posting.
Humm, sounds like the last group should take better aim next time....

We all done yet?
Good, then someone pull the handle, and lets get on to some fun stuff...

Ed

[rixflix]

Hello Doggy, it's me Rixflix, the evil McCarthy communist. Stalin was an intrinsically bad person, Lenin I could probably have had a nice chat with, but friends think I'm a Trotskyite. That McCarthy though, he was the worst of them all. .
Seriously, when you put up the "Do You Support Rule G" topic, I burst out laughing before even opening it. Kinda like asking a suffocating person, "Could I capture your interest by offering you a little air?'
So, after 10 or 15 people sincerely replied to your fatuous question, I couldn't stand it anymore and the devil made me knock in "No No No". I'm rather happy with that effort. Somebody here nailed it when they coined "sarcasm/satire" because it was intended as both. I can' t give everything away, so look 'em up!!! They sort of overlap but mean different things I see some of you grasped the point I was making in "No". People DON'T think that way but they DO act that way, with consequences for us all.
Oh yeah, speaking of sincere, criss-cross my heart. I don't hate or dislike anyone here.
I just like to tweak someone'.s sensibility now and again and toss incendiaries when a situation requires. Doggy, I'm just trying to blow-dry the wet behind your ears, like a caring mare .
Uh-Oh, here it comes again!!!
Dogs, ask your teachers about remedial english or english as a second language. It would be a good summer project. I hope it isn't too late because you have expressed some good stuff in the forums. It would be a shame if you wound up like too many people these days, hard -wired into the internet but going too fast to communicate any kind of subtleties of thought or emotion because they were never taught poor, simple, pen and paper, i.e. reflective, language. I could go into speaking clearly here, but I won't. for now. Before you hit the Submit button, review your post, see if that's the way you want to present yourself and edit!!!
Would you go to meet your girlfriend' s parents with your fly down?
Here's a quick poke::: If you are not 12 years old (my favorite age if I had to be only one forever) and are 22, 38, 57 (mine), or 88 (my dad's) you may be in trouble. My own 27-year old son is a piece of work right now and I guess I'm feeling particularly fatherly this afternoon. Love, Peace, Serenity from Rick
My first paragraph up there was Sarcasm and so was the second language thing!!!!
Let's see now.....Kevin, your tag team tactics never fail to amuse. Don't you know that McMahon and his stable all live convivially in El Rancho Muula-Muula? I hear it looks like like a trailer park from the air.
Hawaii, Florida, California, just outside of Queens? It's hard to tell, but it might be Quebec. Ask your doctor about Viag... oops, I meant Paranoia. In it's early stages it can be cured. In later stages you're most likely a nut case. Congratulations from a member of the Nut Club. Here's a hug and a laugh!!!
CSX, did you know we were briefly (I hope) on a tag team together with the shadowy dharmon vs. Doggy and Kevin? Of course it was just Kevin's World but I felt sorry when you replied to my criticism of your spelling and am sorry now. I do love you as you are. OK? Still, I think your thinking on the Ricky Gates thing is from outer space unless you grew up as a radical Union man. I don't know, but I'm sure we'll talk.
Back to railroading. There's about to be a big rack attack over on the CSX in Ivy City!!!
I am really sore from riding a high horse
which is actually a camel filter.
forever yours
Rick

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BaltACD

Rule G is much too serious a subject, in the context of the railroads, to be joked about...no matter ones viewpoint.

Absolutely, I agree 100% with you.

No one should ever joke abut this kind of subeject, Unless your a sadist and love those pictures of people bloodied, in peices fater their train has crashed because they Engineer was drunk or on pot.

But hey, if the new age of jokes is that kind of thing, leave me out of it, because laughing at many peoples misfortunes on a dayily basis is idiotic.

I rememebr when a girl in thsi town wa skilled by a drunk Driver, I don't ever recall making jokes about it, or going to the funeral, and saying "A beer in the stomach is worth 2 girls in the bush!"

That would have been really appropriate, must have missed the oppertunity.

There are things to poke fun at, and things not to.

Now this could be just me, But RULE G is not somehting to To joke about. Period. end of discussion.

And joking about it in a sarcastic, sadistic way makes it even worse.

[BaltACD]

Rule G is much too serious a subject, in the context of the railroads, to be joked about...no matter ones viewpoint.

The consequences that can occur to the company are catastrophic in nature.

The consequences that can occur to the employees, both guilty and innocent, are also catastrophic.

Just the sheer physics of mass and momentum that apply to all moving rail equipment dictate that controling these objects requires all of the operators sober attention to do it.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

Another Thought Railfix and CSX they acting like Joesph McCarthy Mr. COMMUNISM

DOGGY

Trust me on this one Doggy, there not Communists.
Thats a bit too far.

But they do scare me, like i said, There style of posting is bizarre, thats for sure.

Well,

My cut would be that Doggy and CSX got bad blood from thier little tantrums on the Rick gates thread.....Rix, I'm fairly sure doens't care one way or anyother.....he's making an observation based on Doggy's writing style and choice of topics.....

Hey TROLL boy..BaltACD...chill hoss ...big difference between a troll and tossing some sarcasm/satire out there.......

The nice and bad thing about the internet is that you are just screen names and that's it...CSX could be a CSX engineer, he could be a 12 year old kid with a big mouth, heck he could be Doggy's beloved Davison of UP, just screwing with him.....Doggy might be a kid, a drunk an astronaut......who the *&^% knows.....

The only thing that's certain is that y'all are acting like a bunch of kids here..name calling, making accusations with out backing it up, blah, blah blah........

Go ahead flame me.....If you are offended by this then it was directed at you...if you weren't or there's a question in your mind as whether to be offended then it wasn't. I'm done...continue with your games....

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Drinks are on me at the Roundhouse![(-D][:-,][oops][D)][oX)][:-^]

Well since it is getting close to happy hour out here.......

Is that lube oil yur drinkin or Guinness??

Sorry, I only have Murphy's Irish Stout in the fridge at the Roundhouse....

.....and I drive my trains as drunk as I want !





...of course their out on the benchwork in the garage....[D)][%-)][(-D][:-,][:-^]

Shhhh loud trains ...Murphy's and hangovers on Sat morning

"Drivin' that train, poppin Motrin, Casey Jones you'd better watch your speed..."

[Anonymous]

Please everyone,
Let's not start another forum fire here. This topic is dangerously close to the pattern of some of the flaming in a few of OLD DAD's topics.

Stay calm,
Daniel

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

Another Thought Railfix and CSX they acting like Joesph McCarthy Mr. COMMUNISM

DOGGY

Trust me on this one Doggy, there not Communists.
Thats a bit too far.

But they do scare me, like i said, There style of posting is bizarre, thats for sure.

[Anonymous]

Railroading is an inherently hazardous job.The weight,the complexity,the shear size of the equipment,all require the utmost attention of all involved in operating trains.Social drinking can be absolutely fine,but when it's time to work,it's time to work.There must be no alcohol or drug(s) in an employee's system which would compromise that employee's ability to work safely.

[Anonymous]

Another Thought Railfix and CSX they acting like Joesph McCarthy Mr. COMMUNISM

DOGGY

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

Doggy

Dharmon of all people is solely kidding. He's a good joker, and he only means it to be fun.

It's the intentions of Railfix and CSXengineer that is extremely worrying and to be perfectly honest, scare me.

I'm sorry Dharmon about what I said about you with the 3 Stooges I know you were kidding and I apolgize again if you want to accept or decline write up on the thread also your a good joker wish my brother was that good. Also Kevin CSX and Railfix worried me big time and scare me I wouldn't want to meet them in a dark ally

[Anonymous]

What Kevin said is ture why do people respond if they blantly don't like me and I decided I'm not doing anymore about this alochal junk

DOGGY

[Anonymous]

Doggy

Dharmon of all people is solely kidding. He's a good joker, and he only means it to be fun.

It's the intentions of Railfix and CSXengineer that is extremely worrying and to be perfectly honest, scare me.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Doggy and Kevin - I have to go home for the weekend, so will miss all the pleasantries, but I am with Tree - I think it was satire, not a slam. And Doggy - I get the feeling you are a fairly young person. Even I would be interested in what your thinking is, unless you are just like the Mookie - full of questions?

No harm, no foul.

Y'all have a good weekend - I am going to look for our rain!

Mookie

I'm not full of Questinos but I want to know what people feel about this was funny what you wrote

DOGGY

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

lol rixfix
well said...lol

Seems Like Every Time Doggy has a valid Question, both of you Team up and Take up acting like Three Stooges, two person style.

So as that fast food chain put it, Wheres the Beef?

What's your Beef with Doggy?

Railfix, You display behavioural traits that would make even the common idiot know you have something Against Doggy, So what is it...?

Put it out in the open.

Kevin,
Thnaks for defending me and They act like the 3 stooges. I do have vaild Questions but you 2 dharmon and CSX you treat me like President Bush with Iraq din't I HAVE MY EVERY RIGHT TO BRING UP THESE ISSUES? Yes I do so CSX and Dharmon STOP PLAYING THE 3 STOOGES

DOGGY
THANKS AGAIN KEVIN

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Doggy and Kevin - I have to go home for the weekend, so will miss all the pleasantries, but I am with Tree - I think it was satire, not a slam. And Doggy - I get the feeling you are a fairly young person. Even I would be interested in what your thinking is, unless you are just like the Mookie - full of questions?

No harm, no foul.

Y'all have a good weekend - I am going to look for our rain!

Mookie

Nope, I don't agree-

Railfix is stirring something up, And i am not liking it.

Railfix, I want to know why you don't like Doggy, and why you have this certain fixation towards him, all your remarks in your posts indicate that you don't like Doggy for one reason or another.

So, out with it, then.

If i though that was Sarcasim for one minute, I wouldn't be responding to this, and on the outside of your post it looks like it is Sarcasim, but i'm using deep and critical thinking and I can see that in your post, not solely this one, the many others you have responded to him that you blatently don't like Doggy.

So, your turn to answer.. why?

[BaltACD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rixflix

No,No,No.....I don't support Rule G. Along with recent legislation, zealous do-gooders. so- called family and friends, people at work, et cetera, it would be an intrusion on my God-given right to live as recklessly as I please. Lord help me from these people with axes to grind who aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed themselves.
Whether it's John Barleycorn, Irish Rose, PBR, PCP, meth, ectstasy, horse, crack, maryjane, nicotein, uppers, downers, whatever, I'm gonna do it if I want to. I live in a constant rush of subtances and edgy events in which I run stop signs, skirt crossing gates and the occasional old lady with shopping bags. People don't like to hear this, but I'm having a ball!!!
If I was in charge of something really large and mobile, like a train, I would have a cheap six-year scotch close at hand and run restrictives 'til the cows came home. Or was it until pigs fly?
Oink,oink....!!!

Serenity y'all

TROLL !

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Drinks are on me at the Roundhouse![(-D][:-,][oops][D)][oX)][:-^]

Well since it is getting close to happy hour out here.......

Is that lube oil yur drinkin or Guinness??

Sorry, I only have Murphy's Irish Stout in the fridge at the Roundhouse....

.....and I drive my trains as drunk as I want !





...of course their out on the benchwork in the garage....[D)][%-)][(-D][:-,][:-^]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Drinks are on me at the Roundhouse![(-D][:-,][oops][D)][oX)][:-^]

Well since it is getting close to happy hour out here.......

Is that lube oil yur drinkin or Guinness??

[espeefoamer]

I most definately do support rule G.Once, in the 1970s I was watching trains along a railroad which shall remain unnamed,a frieght was waiting at a signal, and a brakeman walked up and asked if I wanted to buy some weed.[:0] I declined his"offer"!!

[vsmith]

Drinks are on me at the Roundhouse![(-D][:-,][oops][D)][oX)][:-^]

[DTomajko]

One would have to be a fool for not supporting any rule that restricts or contains a chemically impaired person from injuring or killing another with their irresponsible actions. The only thing that disturbs me is the uneven application of the law. An engineer or conductor, commercial pilot, or truck driver can only have a blood alcohol content of .004 versus everyone elses .008 or .010 level. I don't condone raising the level for the .004 group, but why can't everyone else be held to the same standard? No one applies or even suggests that the lower level be applied to the folks that repair the airplanes, locomotives, tracks, roads, or trucks, who could possibly have just as much influence over their performance. Recently in Pennsylvania, the federal DOT had to threaten the state with a reduction in highway funds to have them reduce the DUI level from .010 to .008. Some legislators claimed that bars and resteraunts would suffer massive business losses from the lower level. Does this kind of thinking seem skewed only to me? Now before I am derided or insulted for this commentary, a little background; I have been a trailer mechanic for 23 years and hold a Commercial Drivers License, haven't suffered from DUI arrests or injuries, am not anti-alcohol, and certainly don't believe in the seemingly increasing intrusion of government in our daily lives. I have worked with persons who have been "stoned" or "tanked" and am insulted by their casualness of taking a chance with my and others safety. I do believe in people being responsible and having the decency to work or enjoy themselves with a little concern for what their actions can or could do to others. This is only presented to my fellow members as food for thought and is not intended to pass judgement on anyone. Good luck and enjoy yourself,(responsibly).

[Mookie]

Doggy and Kevin - I have to go home for the weekend, so will miss all the pleasantries, but I am with Tree - I think it was satire, not a slam. And Doggy - I get the feeling you are a fairly young person. Even I would be interested in what your thinking is, unless you are just like the Mookie - full of questions?

No harm, no foul.

Y'all have a good weekend - I am going to look for our rain!

Mookie

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rixflix

No,No,No.....I don't support Rule G. Along with recent legislation, zealous do-gooders. so- called family and friends, people at work, et cetera, it would be an intrusion on my God-given right to live as recklessly as I please. Lord help me from these people with axes to grind who aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed themselves.
Whether it's John Barleycorn, Irish Rose, PBR, PCP, meth, ectstasy, horse, crack, maryjane, nicotein, uppers, downers, whatever, I'm gonna do it if I want to. I live in a constant rush of subtances and edgy events in which I run stop signs, skirt crossing gates and the occasional old lady with shopping bags. People don't like to hear this, but I'm having a ball!!!
If I was in charge of something really large and mobile, like a train, I would have a cheap six-year scotch close at hand and run restrictives 'til the cows came home. Or was it until pigs fly?
Oink,oink....!!!

Serenity y'all

Satire at its very best.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

lol rixfix
well said...lol

Seems Like Every Time Doggy has a valid Question, both of you Team up and Take up acting like Three Stooges, two person style.

So as that fast food chain put it, Wheres the Beef?

What's your Beef with Doggy?

Railfix, You display behavioural traits that would make even the common idiot know you have something Against Doggy, So what is it...?

Put it out in the open.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

lol rixfix
well said...lol

CSX
What are you talking about? IF THIS IS MORE TRA***HIS IS GETTING OLD

DOGGY

Then why do you keep bringing it up........as Rix brought up in the "Whats up" thread... started with the Rick Gates thing....., then on to Casey Jones, now rule G......you keep bringing this stuff up......

I think you can rest assured that: A) all of us support Rule G or something to that effect, and B) Many other communites (particularly aviation) have the same sort, if not more stringent rules than rule G.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rixflix

No,No,No.....I don't support Rule G. Along with recent legislation, zealous do-gooders. so- called family and friends, people at work, et cetera, it would be an intrusion on my God-given right to live as recklessly as I please. Lord help me from these people with axes to grind who aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed themselves.
Whether it's John Barleycorn, Irish Rose, PBR, PCP, meth, ectstasy, horse, crack, maryjane, nicotein, uppers, downers, whatever, I'm gonna do it if I want to. I live in a constant rush of subtances and edgy events in which I run stop signs, skirt crossing gates and the occasional old lady with shopping bags. People don't like to hear this, but I'm having a ball!!!
If I was in charge of something really large and mobile, like a train, I would have a cheap six-year scotch close at hand and run restrictives 'til the cows came home. Or was it until pigs fly?
Oink,oink....!!!

Serenity y'all

Sounds like the airline a friend of mine and I want to start up...Glenlivet Air Express.....The Neat Way To Fly.....scotch all night, coffee in the morning, a can of dip for the afternoon.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

lol rixfix
well said...lol

CSX
What are you talking about? IF THIS IS MORE TRA***HIS IS GETTING OLD

DOGGY

[tree68]

The question begs itself. Who would not support Rule G? (That's a rhetorical question - you need not reply).

In it's simplest form, the question has two answers, yes and no. Most people would reply yes. Those who reply no will usually fall into the same group as the folks who manage to get a third (or fourth, or fifth) DWI on the highway. They haven't figured out that alcohol (never mind other intoxicants) impairs their ability to function. Some of them never will.

Alcohol has the simplest and most reliable measure of its effect: BAC. To my knowledge, there is not much knowledge, and no reliable testing, regarding effects of other intoxicants on one's ability to drive, etc. That is to say, the cop who pulls you over doesn't have a test device to determine if you are too high to drive. Too drunk he can measure, but not too stoned. Even with blood testing, there are few or no established levels of intoxication for drugs. If you test .08, you're drunk. If you test positive for some drug or another, you're probably cooked, regardless of the amount. Plus, with the enormous number of potential intoxicants (legal and illegal) the task of being able to test conclusively is daunting. F'rinstance, next time you're in your medicine cabinet, see how many of the over-the-counter meds include the warning "do not operate heavy machinery."

So, in an effort to reduce the number of replys necessary, perhaps Doggy's question should be rephrased "Are you opposed to Rule G?" Commentary notwithstanding, I suspect there will be no replies, since virtually no one is opposed...

[eolafan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pmsteamman

YES YES YES YES....

YES, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES!