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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:28 PM

I never stated I could do whatever I wanted...where did I say that? And I put the spike back..and contacted the company about it. They stated they would have it looked at. Hey...maybe just maybe I did a good thing. Call it vandalism if you want.

 Back in 2002 I contact a railroad about a malfunctioning level crossing light...the light would flash..then turn off..and THEN the trian would roll though..I observed this for a couple of weeks thinking that someone employed at the railroad would show some interest in getting this fixed. I finally contacted the road and they had it repaired. And I got a $1000.00 gift coupon out of it...yes..some railfans have a bad name..but a thousand bucks says I don't.

 

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:29 PM

I call it trespassing.

 

Let's look at another perspective.  Our bosses out here are required to follow proper safety rules when on the property.  Were you wearing proper safety apparel?  Sturdy work boots?  Safety glasses? long pants?  no articles of adornment?  If not you are creating a safety hazard out here.  Did you have proper rulebooks on you?  

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:34 PM

So give me a ticket...

 No long pants...rule books...work boots...I don't work for the railroad and they are not responsible for my safety.

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:35 PM
If I saw you on my line, authorites would be notified. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by n012944 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:38 PM
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So give me a ticket...

 No long pants...rule books...work boots...I don't work for the railroad and they are not responsible for my safety.

You will get one, some day.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:38 PM

A man standing well clear of the track? They wouldn't do much...trust me. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

 

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:39 PM
Managers aren't allowed on our tracks without proper safety gear.  So if you are part owner, you should respect that.  And I bet you'd be the first one to sue if a dragging chain cut off your leg...

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:40 PM

Big brother (or the Silent Witness) is watching.... 

 

 Ulrich wrote:

A man standing well clear of the track? They wouldn't do much...trust me. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:40 PM

Oh well..I'll pay it then.

I' m a smart guy..I stay away from dragging chains.. I'm always well clear of the tracks..well back.

Big Brother is watching...but he can't do much aparently..look at all the graffiti out there. Where are the authorities. And I'm not talking about causing problems or destroying property. I'm just one man standing well clear of the line.

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:41 PM
Time for work.  Later, troll.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:44 PM

Don't get mad...I really don't condone trespassing on railway property...just wanted a bit of an argument...

 This post is so very much like so many  others...a women trespasses and then the next fifty responses are yeah yeah she's an idiot..

 Now everyone can relax. Sheeesh.. just trying to have some fun.

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Posted by inch53 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:21 PM

Mr. Ulrich,

I talked to a lawyer buddy, and he said [or close to it anyway], "While owning stock in a company does give you some benefits not afforded to the general public. It doesn't give you the right to go on the property any time you wish without permission. You are still trespassing. It does make it easier to get permission."

I didn't ask him for details [and nor will I] because if you get him started on law or marathon running, you have to hear bout it for an hour plus and I'll pass.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:25 PM
okay..thanks for the clarification
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:41 PM
Own very small holdings in all the Class 1s but don't tresspass and when I call in some malfunction I give name, railfan, cell number and the malfunction and any other pertinent data excpt one time got excited when low boy hung up on crossing and could hear train in distance.
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Posted by Beach Bill on Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:27 PM
 Ulrich wrote:

Don't get mad...I really don't condone trespassing on railway property...just wanted a bit of an argument...

 This post is so very much like so many  others...a women trespasses and then the next fifty responses are yeah yeah she's an idiot..

 Now everyone can relax. Sheeesh.. just trying to have some fun.

If advocating illegal behavior is "fun", it's a most unusual and irresponsible form of comedy.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:40 PM
Arguing is fun..not illegal behavior..but relax..we're talking about walking along a railroad right of way... not rape or mass murder. I agree it is illegal and I apologize profusely for offending anyone. You gonna be okay?
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:53 PM

 Ulrich wrote:
Arguing is fun..not illegal behavior..but relax..we're talking about walking along a railroad right of way... not rape or mass murder. I agree it is illegal and I apologize profusely for offending anyone. You gonna be okay?

It's a mile or more each way to a crossing, what are you really going to do? Sign - Dots [#dots]

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:05 PM
I'd sneak across...at the risk of putting myself, the railroad, and most of the industrialized world in peril...oh...yeah...and at the risk of getting a 25 dollar ticket.
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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:28 PM
 Ulrich wrote:

Issuing tickets doesn't work...look at the graffiti murals that must take hours to paint...

Besides...how much public taxpayer money is invested in railroads? And CSX (as well as others) are asking for more to improve infrastructure. If the taxpayer is putting money into the business then the taxpayer has a right to walk along its right of way (within reason)...just my opinion.  If you're going to take a hard line with me just for being on your property then don't take my money.

CSX and all the other private railroads pay taxes to all the communities in which they own property and deserve to have their property protected just like any other tax payer. 

If all the tax payers in your city have the right to walk through your house any time they want, your opinion has validity.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:19 PM
I'm the only taxpayer who owns my house...so no other taxpayer has the right to enter..
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:56 PM

Ulrich,

You may be trolling or are actually speaking legitimately.  If I can share a personal experience regarding "Trespassing without bad intentions".

About a decade back, I had to pick up my wife's car from a repair shop after work..  The shop was about a one and quarter mile walk.  I decided to take a shortcut and do a  3/4 mile long walk along a CSX branchline on the railroad's right of way. The next grade crossing was at least 1/2 mile distant.   Along the way I walked into grass clumps growing through the ballast and the right-of-way, which to my dismay were loaded with thorns and sand spurs.  Since I was wearing shorts, my legs were scraped up vividly.   As I continued towards the grade crossing, I was forced to walk around a metal box along the way and stepped up onto the track ballast to do so.   OOPS!  Soft spot in the ballast and I twisted my left ankle.  Hobbling on, with wasps flying around me,  I got onto the sidewalk as soon as I came upon the grade crossing and went to pick up the car.  I was eating humble pie, especially considering that I was in pretty good physical shape. 

Lesson learned: Even though I was a railfan, was confident and felt I was being careful..................................................It wasn't worth it! 

You, me and others here may be careful, but that doesn't and shouldn't amount to a hill of beans to railroad officials.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:50 PM

I posted some time ago that my initial posts were intentionally overstated. I do not condone trespassing on railroad property. I just wanted to add some flavor to a "let's beat up that idiot" post about some lady who got a ticket for trespassing. I've trespassed, but I don't make a habit of it.

I did pull a spike once and reported the problem to the railroad. They were grateful and sent a team out to look at it. They did not lecture me on trespassing.

 I know trespassing is wrong...I know trespassing is wrong...I know trespassing is wrong..I know trespassing is wrong...I know trespassing is wrong.. I get it!!!!

 

 

 

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:55 PM

O.K, understood

Wink [;)]

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:59 PM
Thank you.
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Posted by RRKen on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:00 PM

 Ulrich wrote:
  There's nothing egtistical about my position..again...we're talking about WALKING along the right of way...I learn alot more by doing that than by reading annual reports.

I don't care if you are the biggest shareholder in the company.   You ask permission before you step on the property, AND, you abide by all applicable safety rules, and wear the proper P.P.E.   And you had better have proper authorization papers.   

My employer says, you see an intruder, a tresspasser, drop the dime.    If you see someone who is on the property, you have the absolute right to request that person for his Company I.D.   If they refuse, call the Manager on-duty, Dispatcher, or the local police.   No arguements, no confrontations,  just drop the dime, end of conversation.  

 It is the duty of every employee to carry their company I.D. at all times when on the property, and to offer it to others if requested.   Those are the rules.   Even the CEO wears his company I.D. so no one is exempt.  

 You sir, need to stay off the property unless you have explicit permission to be there.  I don't care who you are. 

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:04 PM
Don't tell me..tell every graffiti artist out there (apparently they don't know or care). As stated earlier I don't have a problem with the rules...I really don't trespass that much.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:12 PM

 Ulrich wrote:
...I really don't trespass that much.

 

Now you're rationalizing.

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Posted by RRKen on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:12 PM

 Ulrich wrote:
Don't tell me..tell every graffiti artist out there (apparently they don't know or care). As stated earlier I don't have a problem with the rules...I really don't trespass that much.

We don't have a problem with those who deface cars out here.   If caught, they face the same thing you would if caught.

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Posted by RRKen on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:14 PM
 Murray wrote:

 Ulrich wrote:
...I really don't trespass that much.

Now you're rationalizing.

 

Do they know how to think that way out there?

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Posted by selector on Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:21 PM

 Ulrich wrote:
... As stated earlier I don't have a problem with the rules...I really don't trespass that much.

"I really don't have a problem with the rules.  I really don't do drugs that much when I am in charge of (insert bus, plane, police patrol, cab, school classroom, house full of kids, dentist's office, operating room, nuclear lab or generating station, the Simpson's distribution office, ...oh, I could go on....).

I get it, though....yer funnin' us.

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