Like Trains and Planes ? ? ?

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jchnhtfd

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

A little story about when the USN took over control of Carswell AFB--us "yuck monkeys" in the USAFRes had to brush up on our recognition of Naval insignia. I was working with a Tech Sgt. with a reputation as a smart a** when a Navy Captain approached. The TSgt. smartly saluted saluted and greeted the Captain with "mornin' Admiral!" The Captain, without missing a beat replied, "good morning, Airman!" As far as WWII aircraft go, I'll cast my vote for the "forked tail devil!" Who knows what aircraft I refer to? Great prizes await the 93 caller to answer correctly!!

You refer to the Lockheed P-38[:D]. Nice 'plane... but I'll vote (in that era) for either the Spitfire (preferably early; the later ones with clipped or extended wings were not as clean) (one of the best airplanes, aerodynamically, ever built), the FW-190, a vastly underrated bird (the winners write the history...), the Japanese Emily flying boat (amazing critter, that one), or... aw heck. There were a bunch of great planes! Forget the vote; just enjoy!

Most under-rated combat aircraft of WWII ...the world famous Brewster Buffalo.......lost some of the most obscure air battles in history.

[jchnhtfd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

A little story about when the USN took over control of Carswell AFB--us "yuck monkeys" in the USAFRes had to brush up on our recognition of Naval insignia. I was working with a Tech Sgt. with a reputation as a smart a** when a Navy Captain approached. The TSgt. smartly saluted saluted and greeted the Captain with "mornin' Admiral!" The Captain, without missing a beat replied, "good morning, Airman!" As far as WWII aircraft go, I'll cast my vote for the "forked tail devil!" Who knows what aircraft I refer to? Great prizes await the 93 caller to answer correctly!!

You refer to the Lockheed P-38[:D]. Nice 'plane... but I'll vote (in that era) for either the Spitfire (preferably early; the later ones with clipped or extended wings were not as clean) (one of the best airplanes, aerodynamically, ever built), the FW-190, a vastly underrated bird (the winners write the history...), the Japanese Emily flying boat (amazing critter, that one), or... aw heck. There were a bunch of great planes! Forget the vote; just enjoy!

[Anonymous]

A little story about when the USN took over control of Carswell AFB--us "yuck monkeys" in the USAFRes had to brush up on our recognition of Naval insignia. I was working with a Tech Sgt. with a reputation as a smart a** when a Navy Captain approached. The TSgt. smartly saluted saluted and greeted the Captain with "mornin' Admiral!" The Captain, without missing a beat replied, "good morning, Airman!" As far as WWII aircraft go, I'll cast my vote for the "forked tail devil!" Who knows what aircraft I refer to? Great prizes await the 93 caller to answer correctly!!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

Anyone Seen any odd posters, or old Train posters on the web, if you have

LET ME know-

Thanks.

Kev

I found some really good ALCO pic. [:)]

Wanna see them. [;)] [:D]


Call the Historic Rail number found earlier in this thread. Ask them to send you one of the Free catalogs.

[Anonymous]

Anyone Seen any odd posters, or old Train posters on the web, if you have

LET ME know-

Thanks.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I have a train vid that shows WWII action involving trains here in the states. If you know what it is you can see a B-36 take off. If you didn't know what it is you would just call it an airplane.

Those things were monsters. I would have liked to have seen one in real life and not just book and mags.

They were designed to fly from America, bomb Germany and return to American soil. This project was undertaken in case Great Britain fell into Nazi hands.

They lasted with some changes into the cold war era. I understand the entire group was destroyed during a storm. [:(]

There is a B-36 in the air museum at Castle Air Force Base near Atwater Ca. in the San Joaquin Valley.I have seen it and these things are HUGE![:D]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

I have a train vid that shows WWII action involving trains here in the states. If you know what it is you can see a B-36 take off. If you didn't know what it is you would just call it an airplane.

Those things were monsters. I would have liked to have seen one in real life and not just book and mags.

They were designed to fly from America, bomb Germany and return to American soil. This project was undertaken in case Great Britain fell into Nazi hands.

They lasted with some changes into the cold war era. I understand the entire group was destroyed during a storm. [:(]

I have...been on one too.....when I was a kid they had one at the airport in Arlington, TX that was being prepared for a museum. The guys used to let me climb all over and through it. Down the bomb bay tube to the aft crew area and tail guns, into the wings through the engineers hatch....all over it ......way cool.

[Anonymous]

I have a train vid that shows WWII action involving trains here in the states. If you know what it is you can see a B-36 take off. If you didn't know what it is you would just call it an airplane.

Those things were monsters. I would have liked to have seen one in real life and not just book and mags.

They were designed to fly from America, bomb Germany and return to American soil. This project was undertaken in case Great Britain fell into Nazi hands.

They lasted with some changes into the cold war era. I understand the entire group was destroyed during a storm. [:(]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

Wasn't there a quote somewhere about the F-4 that went, "proof that with enough thrust, a brick would fly?"

Yeah Bernouli lied.....

Oh Dannnnnnnn,

Just try to stand under the wing of a Cessna 150 on a windy day and you might change your mind. [:)] [;)] [:D]

Bernouli wasn't so dumb afterall. [}:)] [:D]

[dharmon]

Combine the love of trains and planes with Microsoft Combat Flight Sim III (TM) Battle for Europe......P-47D armed with 8 .50 cal MGs and 8 x 4" rockets, then go on fighter sweep and go loco busting and strafe a couple of rail yards while at it!

[vsmith]

Well this is just half silly,

of course I like Trians dummy!

or I wouldnt waste half my day here now would I?

As for planes, unfortunatley I probably know more about older planes than I do about trains....Favorite plane, Hmmm thats a hard one...here a "short list"...

1. Curtis P-40 warhawk in China mercenary "flying tiger" mode.

2. North American P-51D bubbletop in D-Day stripes.

3. B-17G perhaps the single toughest plane ever built.

4. Hughes F-1 prequil to the P-38 one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built.

5. Northrup N-1 flying wing, got to see this restored wonder in the air last new years over the Rose Bowl. I dont recall ever seeing a plane that gave me a bigger thrill to see.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

Wasn't there a quote somewhere about the F-4 that went, "proof that with enough thrust, a brick would fly?"

Yeah Bernouli lied.....

[Anonymous]

I like trains and planes. Could we also include army tanks and old race cars? I think I like anything that makes a lot of noise, smells cool when it goes by and SHAKES the ground!

mike

[rrnut282]

Wasn't there a quote somewhere about the F-4 that went, "proof that with enough thrust, a brick would fly?"

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

Favorite diesel? GP40--first engine I was ever on. Favorite plane--F4 Phantom--my outfit still flew'em when I joined up. Favorite submarine--don't have one, waited all day at the beach and never saw one--
maybe dharmon could help a fellow Texan out!!![:D][:)]

Ahh yes, a wonderful Saturday night at the submarine races..............You know I once had a bubbelhead (submariner) once tell me that there were more
airplanes in the sea than subs in the air. My response to him was there are more examples of successful escapes from damaged aircraft than from damaged subs.......

F-4s in TX... My guesses would be........RF4Cs out of Bergstrom AFB in Austin, F4C/Es that replaced the F101s with TANG at Ellington AFB in Houston, or F4Js with the reserve VF squadron out of NAS Dallas. None of which exist anymore........of course

301st TFW @ Carswell AFB, Fort Worth--now a JRB. A Reserve TAC unit at an active SAC Base. TAC and SAC aren't around anymore. But we did keep the skies of North Texas safe from communists, socialists, fascists, geologists, psychologists, chemists, polygamists, balloonists (incident on the rifle range!), and a large array of other ists. They fly F-16s now. As far as the sub races go...Lake Holbrook near Mineola, TX!!!

I guess I didn't give Carswell a thought since it and Dyess were/are SAC bases. All the Navy assets from NAS Dallas moved over there when the closed that down to make the JRB.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

Favorite diesel? GP40--first engine I was ever on. Favorite plane--F4 Phantom--my outfit still flew'em when I joined up. Favorite submarine--don't have one, waited all day at the beach and never saw one--
maybe dharmon could help a fellow Texan out!!![:D][:)]

Ahh yes, a wonderful Saturday night at the submarine races..............You know I once had a bubbelhead (submariner) once tell me that there were more
airplanes in the sea than subs in the air. My response to him was there are more examples of successful escapes from damaged aircraft than from damaged subs.......

F-4s in TX... My guesses would be........RF4Cs out of Bergstrom AFB in Austin, F4C/Es that replaced the F101s with TANG at Ellington AFB in Houston, or F4Js with the reserve VF squadron out of NAS Dallas. None of which exist anymore........of course

301st TFW @ Carswell AFB, Fort Worth--now a JRB. A Reserve TAC unit at an active SAC Base. TAC and SAC aren't around anymore. But we did keep the skies of North Texas safe from communists, socialists, fascists, geologists, psychologists, chemists, polygamists, balloonists (incident on the rifle range!), and a large array of other ists. They fly F-16s now. As far as the sub races go...Lake Holbrook near Mineola, TX!!!

[Anonymous]

You bet , I like'm both. I used to watch the B-52s & KC-135s do touch & go training manuvers at the Castle A.F.B. just outside of Atwater California. What a sight. The base was closed in the mid 1990s though. & I don't know what the fate of the air museum nearby was ( Jamie, It had an SR-71 on display also, I can see why you like it ). The B-1 Lancer is my favorite military aircraft. It's neat to see these birds do low level training manuvers out west. The boeing 737 is my favorite commercialy. I spend alot of time in this one on MSFS because to me it's the most forgiving to fly. PS; Thank You Jim for the web site info. I've only flown 6 times & all were with America West, Mostly on Airbus's, It's a great airline.

[jchnhtfd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

I have reported on another thread what my favorite train is.My favorite plane is (was)?the Lockheed L1011.I flew on one,on Delta Airlines, to the first Sacramento Railfair in 1981.[:)]

Indeed the L1011 was a nice 'plane -- well designed, easy to fly. It was brought down by having only one choice of engine manufacturer -- Rolls Royce -- which had QA/QC problems at the time and also terminal financial trouble.[:(]

[Anonymous]

I like Trains but I hate Planes

DOGGY

[espeefoamer]

I have reported on another thread what my favorite train is.My favorite plane is (was)?the Lockheed L1011.I flew on one,on Delta Airlines, to the first Sacramento Railfair in 1981.[:)]

[Anonymous]

I like Trains and Planes. I grew up a navy brat (sort of). My dad worked for Grumman on Long Island. He was an original engineer on both the Limb (landed on the moon) and the F-14 Tomcat. He later worked on the A-6 (all models), EF-111, Hawkeye. I spent many a day with him at work watching the aircraft in flight and operations testing.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by emory

Favorite diesel? GP40--first engine I was ever on. Favorite plane--F4 Phantom--my outfit still flew'em when I joined up. Favorite submarine--don't have one, waited all day at the beach and never saw one--
maybe dharmon could help a fellow Texan out!!![:D][:)]

Ahh yes, a wonderful Saturday night at the submarine races..............You know I once had a bubbelhead (submariner) once tell me that there were more
airplanes in the sea than subs in the air. My response to him was there are more examples of successful escapes from damaged aircraft than from damaged subs.......

F-4s in TX... My guesses would be........RF4Cs out of Bergstrom AFB in Austin, F4C/Es that replaced the F101s with TANG at Ellington AFB in Houston, or F4Js with the reserve VF squadron out of NAS Dallas. None of which exist anymore........of course

[Anonymous]

Favorite diesel? GP40--first engine I was ever on. Favorite plane--F4 Phantom--my outfit still flew'em when I joined up. Favorite submarine--don't have one, waited all day at the beach and never saw one--
maybe dharmon could help a fellow Texan out!!![:D][:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

No not me silly, do YOU like trains and or planes. [?]

Well of course you like trains or you wouldn't be here. [;)]

I know there are some (LIKE ME) who like planes also. [:)]

I have been wanting to share this info for a while but have not had the time to do so.

There are a lot of good places to get books, videos, models and other "things" about trains or planes. I have two catalogs--one for train items, and the other for plane items. I will share this info so anyone interested can either call them or email them to get their catalogs.

For TRAINS:

Historic Rail 1-800-261-5922
website www.historicRail.com


For PLANES:

Historic Avaiation 1-800-225-5575
website www.HistoricAviation.com


If you knew of these great, but if you didn't now you do. [:)]

I received an email asking about Train Posters. If you are in the market for train posters the Historical Rail catalog does have posters. [:)]

Of course they also have models, books, videos, etc., etc., etc.,. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Nope don't like trains or planes. [:)]

Dan [8D]

You silly rabbit, I told you not to make me laugh so hard this early in the morning. [;)]


Does anyone know of a catalog like these of ships, hmmmm DAN?

Janes makes a catalog of ships ..... but you can't order form it.......

Even if you could order from it, I don't think I could afford the price of the "models". [:D]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Nope don't like trains or planes. [:)]

Dan [8D]

You silly rabbit, I told you not to make me laugh so hard this early in the morning. [;)]


Does anyone know of a catalog like these of ships, hmmmm DAN?

Janes makes a catalog of ships ..... but you can't order form it.......

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Nope don't like trains or planes. [:)]

Dan [8D]

You silly rabbit, I told you not to make me laugh so hard this early in the morning. [;)]


Does anyone know of a catalog like these of ships, hmmmm DAN?

[dharmon]

Nope don't like trains or planes. [:)]

[Anonymous]

These two cataloges offer posters as well as book, movies, and models. You can call the 800 numbers and they will send you a catalog. I have bought some things from them on the railfan side of the fence. [;)]

The catalogs are FREE. [:D]

Can't beat that price. [;)]

[Anonymous]

Now I'm reminded of something else......on certain passenger trains, most notably VIA's LRC and HEP-2 coaches, (and on Japanese bullet trains) they have airline-style overhead bins......VIA doesn't talk about "coach", but rather "economy" class....and on France's TGVs, the driver of said highspeed train is officially a "pilote." I'm wondering, any case where the reverse happens....train like things on planes? Well I heard that some Texas airline used to have its seats arranged like some commuter trains, with many facing each other (this changed when they started flying outside of Texas)....and I wonder, did they ever experiment (quite terribly, I'd imagine) with rail-style luggage racks?

weid factoids.....until 1977, Air Canada was technically part of CN......and what ended up as Canadian was a merger between Ward Air and Canadian Pacific Air (so the Canadian rail wars also took place in the air)....and their two letter code was CP....and their symbol was based on CP's "Pacman" (apparently there was a time when CP had flight attendants also working as "rail attendants")

~Ra'akone