Like Trains and Planes ? ? ?

[Anonymous]

I got the new catalog of Historic Rail (Summer 2994) the other day. It has some interesting things in it.

Things of interest (to me anyway) are:

A video/DVD of SD80Mac Operator Familiarization. It is 50 minutes long. Sounds interesting to me.

Galloping Goose Railbus (You have to admit, that is one ugly piece of equipment).

German Keopold Railway Gun.

A "C Liner" in Pennsyvania Railroad markings.

A Shark in NYC markings.

There are also 5 videos on Conrail. Plus some Conrail models.

There are lots of posters, models, pics, etc. Way far too many to list.

The catalog is free, here is the number if you want to get one.

1-800-261-5922

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

When I was a kid,I built a model of a C47.The decal on the side said "skytrain." Was that a term used for C47s in general,or for one specific plane?

I believe that was the name given the C-47, much as the C141 is the "Starlifter"

[espeefoamer]

When I was a kid,I built a model of a C47.The decal on the side said "skytrain." Was that a term used for C47s in general,or for one specific plane?

[Anonymous]

I love both, and always have. I always wanted to be a train engineer, but from what I have heard and read, a locomotive engineer's life is a hard life, so I plan to get into aviation-- flying.

[Anonymous]

Dan,

and others too of course,

Does anyone know of a catalog like Historic Rail but for ships? Yes Dan, we know about Jane's, but we want ships we can model and books, vids etc, on ships.

[Anonymous]

Puff was John Wayne's favorite aircraft in one of his movies. It saved the day. It seems like I remember them saying that Puff would put a bullet every square foot (or maybe inch) over a football field in one pass. Don't want to be on the receiving end of that now do we. [}:)] [;)]

I believe Puff was a D C 3. The military version was a A C 47. If I remember correctly Puff's fire(power) were 3 miniguns. The minigun is the new and improved version of the Civil War Gatling gun. The rate of fire for one minigun is something like 3000 rounds a minute. I know that someone here in the forum can give us the correct number is I am wrong. Even if it were just 1000 rounds a minute that would still be devasting on the receiving end. I sure don't want to make Puff mad. [}:)] [:D] [;)]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Okay and Dan's trivia aviation nicknames for today...................

1. Puff the Magic Dragon
2. Spooky
3. Dust Off
4. Sandy
5. Spad (not WWI)
6. Hoover
7. Kneecap

And bonus......what airplane was the Ruptured Duck

Vic got puff and spooky

Dust Off is a Medivac Chopper

Sandy and Spad are one and the same the A-1 Skyraider...Sandy was given in it's Combat SAR role in Vietnam and actually the call sign is still used. Spad becasue in a time of jets and stuff, the prop job kept on ticking in combat service

Hoover is the name given to S3 Vikings...it has high bypass turbofan engines that sound like a vacuum cleaner really.....when they land they make a veryn distinctive WHOOP WHOOP sound as the pilot jockeys the throttles

Kneecap is the National Airborne Command Post aka the flying whitehouse

[Anonymous]

I am a member of a military book club. In the most recent mailing I noticed they are selling a new version of the Monopoly game--Monopoly Century Of Flight. I won't be buying this version as I already have Monopoly United States Naval Edition. [:D] [:p] [;)]

[vsmith]

Finally got you guys on one!

Flying Brickyard..............The Space Shuttle!

Due to the covering of 1000's of ceramic insulating "Bricks" it earned that nickname.




PS way to go on the big # 2grand posting, Jim!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Brickhouse......any plane with Pamela Anderson on it.

CLEAR PROP [}:)] [:p] [;)] [:)] [:D]

[dharmon]

The Razorback to be specific would be the P47C. The D variant had the bubble canopy and not the raised dorsal fairing that gave the Razorback its name....bith were also affectionately known as the Jug.


Brickhouse......any plane with Pamela Anderson on it.

[Anonymous]

Razorback--P47 Thunderbolt if memory serves.

Flying brickyard???

I hope the P47 is correct, because you can't spell memory without "emory!!"[:o)][:D][C):-)][:-^]

[vsmith]

Razorback


Flying Brickyard

[Anonymous]

Actually the "flying boxcar" I was thinking about at the time is a fighter/bomber and not a cargo plane.

It just goes to show as some have already pointed out that one nickname can apply to more than one plane.

The ground troups like this planes because it carried a boxcar full of bombs and rockets and saved the [censored] of many infantry troops. And of course they were all very grateful. [:D]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

At least I know one right of the bat...

Puff the Magic Dragon... a C-47 gunship used during 'nam as a ground support weapons platform. It had as I recall a bunch of 50 cal's and two Vulcan rotary guns. It would orbit around a target with ground directed targeting, and "PUFF" the target gets peppered with a hellofalotta-o-lead from all sides! Later "Puff" was transfered to a C130 along with a 75mm recoil-less cannon. Scary stuff to see in action...

Spooky - I'll take a stab...F117 stealth fighter because it can come out of no where with no warning.


And I know the bonus prize....

Ruptured Duck was the B-25 subject plane of the book "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" which took off from the carrier USS Hornet, bombed Tokyo, dispelling the belief that the Japanese homeland could never be touched. They flew on to China, crashed short due to fuel loss, and had a devil of a time avoiding the Japanese Occupation Force, a great many Chinese died to protect the American airmen, something the author never got over, my mom says one of the Ducks survivors was a nieghbor for a while (maybe the author but I'm not sure) back in the 50's or early 60's (not sure before my time). She said he eventually died, maybe suicide, from the experience.

Interesting story...that was kind of a mess. As tactically meaningless as it was it did rattle the Japanese enough to hold back aircraft from the front lines to protect the homeland..so it worked...

Spooky is the AC130 and there actually was an AC117 (flying boxcar) also...The F117 was known as the Wobblin Goblin cause it really isn't that manueverable.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by JOdom

The F105 Thunderchief, the plane that could kill stuff three ways - shooting it, bombing it, or falling on it (the latter being the most dangerous). My brother-in-law, a former military aircraft mechanic, called the A-7 "Slow Little Ugly F******". And trust me on this, you DON'T want to ask him how he enjoyed maintaining the electronics in the F4. Been there, done that, got the singed hair and blistered ears to prove it.

The F4 had electronics in it? Where'd they find room...huge blunt metal body, huge jet engines to propel blunt mass through air at ludicrious speed, seats for voice activated steering unit (pilot) and voice activated self loading baggage (RIO), and fuel to feed big jet engines filling rest of availble space.....no need for electronics the sight of it hurlting at you would be enough to scare away all but the most detemined enemy...

But as a testament to the airframe....the Japanese, Iranians (quite proficiently) and Israelis still use it.

Wasnt this the aircraft that the bright guys with slide rules designed to be the most advanced fighter in the world, so advanced that they left off that ancient useless thing called a gun? So advanced that when the stand off missle's missed their target and that pesky Mig got them into a dogfight , the pilots were swearing that if they ever meet the rocket scientist that decided the didnt need no stinkin gun, they would personally kill him.[?]

[:-^] Yes that would the same plane.

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by JOdom

The F105 Thunderchief, the plane that could kill stuff three ways - shooting it, bombing it, or falling on it (the latter being the most dangerous). My brother-in-law, a former military aircraft mechanic, called the A-7 "Slow Little Ugly F******". And trust me on this, you DON'T want to ask him how he enjoyed maintaining the electronics in the F4. Been there, done that, got the singed hair and blistered ears to prove it.

The F4 had electronics in it? Where'd they find room...huge blunt metal body, huge jet engines to propel blunt mass through air at ludicrious speed, seats for voice activated steering unit (pilot) and voice activated self loading baggage (RIO), and fuel to feed big jet engines filling rest of availble space.....no need for electronics the sight of it hurlting at you would be enough to scare away all but the most detemined enemy...

But as a testament to the airframe....the Japanese, Iranians (quite proficiently) and Israelis still use it.

Wasnt this the aircraft that the bright guys with slide rules designed to be the most advanced fighter in the world, so advanced that they left off that ancient useless thing called a gun? So advanced that when the stand off missle's missed their target and that pesky Mig got them into a dogfight , the pilots were swearing that if they ever meet the rocket scientist that decided the didnt need no stinkin gun, they would personally kill him.[?]

[vsmith]

At least I know one right of the bat...

Puff the Magic Dragon... a C-47 gunship used during 'nam as a ground support weapons platform. It had as I recall a bunch of 50 cal's and two Vulcan rotary guns. It would orbit around a target with ground directed targeting, and "PUFF" the target gets peppered with a hellofalotta-o-lead from all sides! Later "Puff" was transfered to a C130 along with a 75mm recoil-less cannon. Scary stuff to see in action...

Spooky - I'll take a stab...F117 stealth fighter because it can come out of no where with no warning.


And I know the bonus prize....

Ruptured Duck was the B-25 subject plane of the book "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" which took off from the carrier USS Hornet, bombed Tokyo, dispelling the belief that the Japanese homeland could never be touched. They flew on to China, crashed short due to fuel loss, and had a devil of a time avoiding the Japanese Occupation Force, a great many Chinese died to protect the American airmen, something the author never got over, my mom says one of the Ducks survivors was a nieghbor for a while (maybe the author but I'm not sure) back in the 50's or early 60's (not sure before my time). She said he eventually died, maybe suicide, from the experience.

[dharmon]

Okay and Dan's trivia aviation nicknames for today...................

1. Puff the Magic Dragon
2. Spooky
3. Dust Off
4. Sandy
5. Spad (not WWI)
6. Hoover
7. Kneecap

And bonus......what airplane was the Ruptured Duck

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JOdom

The F105 Thunderchief, the plane that could kill stuff three ways - shooting it, bombing it, or falling on it (the latter being the most dangerous). My brother-in-law, a former military aircraft mechanic, called the A-7 "Slow Little Ugly F******". And trust me on this, you DON'T want to ask him how he enjoyed maintaining the electronics in the F4. Been there, done that, got the singed hair and blistered ears to prove it.

The F4 had electronics in it? Where'd they find room...huge blunt metal body, huge jet engines to propel blunt mass through air at ludicrious speed, seats for voice activated steering unit (pilot) and voice activated self loading baggage (RIO), and fuel to feed big jet engines filling rest of availble space.....no need for electronics the sight of it hurlting at you would be enough to scare away all but the most detemined enemy...

But as a testament to the airframe....the Japanese, Iranians (quite proficiently) and Israelis still use it.

[SALfan]

The F105 Thunderchief, the plane that could kill stuff three ways - shooting it, bombing it, or falling on it (the latter being the most dangerous). My brother-in-law, a former military aircraft mechanic, called the A-7 "Slow Little Ugly F******". And trust me on this, you DON'T want to ask him how he enjoyed maintaining the electronics in the F4. Been there, done that, got the singed hair and blistered ears to prove it.

[jchnhtfd]

Oh dear. Let's see. Flying Boxcar was the Fairchild C-82, although the name was also applied to the Fairchild C-119. The latter being the noisiest airplane (inside) that I have ever been on. The Guppy and Super Guppy were modified Boeing 377's (I think modified from the military C-97 version, but I'm not certain on that one). BUFF is the Big Ugly Fat Fellow (or something else with an F_____ .. not for a family forum!) -- the B-52, and the Thud is the Republic F-105 Thunderchief.

[pmsteamman]

I dont know much about planes, but when I was a kid I jumped off the roof of our house. All I got was a real quick to the ground and a peskey twitch.

[passengerfan]

To return to the subject of Trains and Planes thought you would be interested to hear that CP Air in the early 1970's operated their Empress 747's with a railroad lounge on the upper level. The lounge featured an 1880's rail motif with brass lanterns etc. Lounge was for first class only and only lasted until airline passenger loads were sufficient to eliminate it and they were converted to additional coach seating at that time. Understand CP Air sold all of the decorations including lamps to railbuffs when the lounges were stripped and converted.

[vsmith]

I am among Giants here!

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[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Here's a couple more...

BUFF...

Thud...

They guppy used to come through Houston alot. The ESA has an aircraft along the same lines built by Airbus. Fat Albert.....since no one else'll bite...the USMC C130 for the Blue Angels.....right now, its probably either in Pensacola or El Centro for spring training. Heinneman's Hot rod...yup..one and the same...the plane is still amazing considering it was designed on a napkin...aviation urban legend has it...has a 720 degree per second rate of roll.

BUFF Big Ugly Fat Fellow.....or the Big Stick......another engineering marvel the B52......and the THUD ........F105 .......the basis for the original Wild Weasel SAM suppresion aircraft ....trolling for triple A........

both of which were used to bomb the RAIL yards in North Vietnam

[vsmith]

Here's a couple more...

BUFF...

Thud...

[vsmith]

Guppy was another transport plane, the Super Guppy still flies, had the largest fuselage to wing ratio of any plane I've seen. Douglass built it I beleive. They used to fly in and out of Long Beach Ca when I was a kid carrying Apollo and Saturn V componenets to Florida.

Scooter, Of course, the A4 , also called Hienemen's Hot Rod (my spelling) after its Skunkworks creator. It sounded familier but I didnt connect it.

The A10 was designated the Thunderbolt, but the pilots and crews affectionetly called it the "Wart-hog".

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

This is specific to a single airplane...

Fat Albert...

I don't think's it fair that I answer this one.....But I know it.

How about Guppy?