KCSfan wrote: I don't have the time right now to research the question I really want to ask so I'll just throw in a quickie in the meantime.For years the Illinois Central ran a passenger train from New Orleans to Chicago that had no southbound counterpart. Its entire consist was deadheaded back to NO on a train of another name with only a single coach open for passenger occupancy. What were the names of these two trains and what was the reason for this schedule? I rode the northbound train many times in the 1952-5 time period.Mark
I don't have the time right now to research the question I really want to ask so I'll just throw in a quickie in the meantime.
For years the Illinois Central ran a passenger train from New Orleans to Chicago that had no southbound counterpart. Its entire consist was deadheaded back to NO on a train of another name with only a single coach open for passenger occupancy. What were the names of these two trains and what was the reason for this schedule? I rode the northbound train many times in the 1952-5 time period.
Mark
The Chicago Limited and the Panama Limited.
Sorry Al but no cigar for you yet. The Panama Ltd was the flagship of the IC fleet and ran both north and south. The trains I have in mind were far less prestigious than the all Pullman Panama.
The reason for the one way train would have been the imbalance in passenger loads caused by the migration of the poor, both black and white, from the farms of the deep south to the industrial north in this period. However, I have no idea what the IC might have named these trains.
Dakguy201 wrote: The reason for the one way train would have been the imbalance in passenger loads caused by the migration of the poor, both black and white, from the farms of the deep south to the industrial north in this period. However, I have no idea what the IC might have named these trains.
Dakguy,
Absolutely right. Now for a hint. The name of the northbound train was the same as that given to some south Louisiana residents and their style of cooking.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Murphy Siding wrote: Cajuns(sp?)
The Creole?? - a.s.
al-in-chgo wrote: Murphy Siding wrote: Cajuns(sp?) The Creole?? - a.s.
Right on Al it was the Creole. You and Dakguy are tied so far. Let's see who can name the train that deadheaded the Creole's equipment back from Chi to NO.
KCSfan wrote: al-in-chgo wrote: Murphy Siding wrote: Cajuns(sp?) The Creole?? - a.s. Right on Al it was the Creole. You and Dakguy are tied so far. Let's see who can name the train that deadheaded the Creole's equipment back from Chi to NO.Mark
Sorry, but I have no idea.
The train had name that suggested it was more than a local that stopped at every hamlet south of Champaign on its way to New Orleans.
KCSfan wrote: The train had name that suggested it was more than a local that stopped at every hamlet south of Champaign on its way to New Orleans.Mark
The Daily Mail?
I was watching TV and I knew I would not be able to sleep without answering the question. The Northbound train from New Orleans was the Creole and the equipment returned south on the Southern Express. Now can I go to sleep.
Al - in - Stockton
passengerfan wrote: I was watching TV and I knew I would not be able to sleep without answering the question. The Northbound train from New Orleans was the Creole and the equipment returned south on the Southern Express. Now can I go to sleep.Al - in - Stockton
The Southern Express is right. On weekends when I went home to Chicagoland from the Univ of Ill I usually rode either the Seminole or the later Louisiane back to Champaign. Once I missed the Louisiane and had to ride the Southern Express which arrived in Champaign at the ungodly hour of 3:55 AM. There were three of us in the one coach that was open; the Conductor, a Flagman and I. It was the only passenger train that I ever rode where the trainmen wore overalls not uniforms.
Since we have a three way tie between Dakguy and the two Al's, as far as I'm concerned any one of you can ask the next question.
In the late 1960's the Canadian National purchased the six Super Domes and the six Skytop Observations from the Milwaukee Road that had operated in the Olympian Hiawatha. Name the two CN trains that were assigned the domes and the three trains that were assigned the Skytop Observations?
Is anyone out there today and what happened to all of the passenger train lovers out there. I will settle for the two CN trains that operated the former Milwaukee Super Domes and two of the CN trains that operated the former Milwaukee Road Skytop Observations.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
CShaveRR wrote:I believe that a train named the Panorama was instituted for some of these cars.
Didn't the Super Continental get domes too?
Between Carl and Al they got the two western trains that received the Super Domes the Super Continental and the Panorama. Now how about two of the trains that received the Skytop Observations.
passengerfan wrote: Between Carl and Al they got the two western trains that received the Super Domes the Super Continental and the Panorama. Now how about two of the trains that received the Skytop Observations.Al - in - Stockton
Perhaps the Chaleur or the Ocean?
Bingo Al in Chicago you got it . It was the Ocean and Chaleaur and the third was the Scotian but only for a short while as that train required to much switching at the time.
passengerfan wrote: Bingo Al in Chicago you got it . It was the Ocean and Chaleaur and the third was the Scotian but only for a short while as that train required to much switching at the time. Al - in - Stockton
Okay, here's one that should be fairly easy: Name the railroad company whose north-south and east-west axes crossed at Oelwein, Iowa.
Chicago Great Western
KCSfan wrote: Chicago Great WesternMark
Correct!!
What former Class I railroad is recognized as the first to become completely dieselized and in what year did it attain this distinction?
I believe the railroad was the Gulf Mobile & Ohio and the year was 1950.
passengerfan wrote: MarkI believe the railroad was the Gulf Mobile & Ohio and the year was 1950.Al - in - Stockton
Sorry Al it wasn't the GM&O and the time was well before 1950. The GM&O is generally credited with being the first railroad in the south to completely dieselize. But remember at the time a Class I was defined as a railroad with annual revenues of more than a million $ and there were well over a hundred of them. The first to completely dieselize was one of the smallest Class I's.
Nope it wasn't the Susie Q or the CNJ. No cigar for you guys yet.
KCSfan wrote: Nope it wasn't the Susie Q or the CNJ. No cigar for you guys yet. Mark
Spokane, Portland & Seattle?
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