Railroad History Quiz Game (Come on in and play)

[Texas Zepher]

I'm going to award you the win.

OK, the date is 1864.  The last legal title is cleared for the final railroad of the set of six that had been operating as the CB&Q since 1856.  What are the six railroads that combined (in one way shape or form) to form the original CB&Q?

[al-in-chgo]

By the way Thanks for starting this thread. Even when I'm not WAG ing it, still lot of fun & information.

Thx IGN

Thanks for the praise, but it was actually NSLover 92 (Michael Link) who started this thread.  I did get in on it early, though, and enjoy it still  - a.s.

 

[narig01]

By the way Thanks for starting this thread. Even when I'm not WAG ing it, still lot of fun & information.

Thx IGN

[al-in-chgo]

Before its run was terminated entirely upon the inauguration of Amtrak (5/1/71), The Birmingham Special did not run as far as Birmingham. 

Give its route during the "bitter end" period in early 1971.

Washington DC. - Lynchburg?

Lynchburg - Bristol VA. was discontinued before Amtrak. So early 1971 it would be Bristol?

Bristol VA to Birmingham was discontinued in 1970 or so. 

I'm going to award you the win.  I know that I rode the train from Glade Spring, VA to Marion, VA the weekend before May 1st hit.  The train was swarmed by little kids at Marion, probably so they could have the experience of riding a train.  On further reflection, though, that might have been The Pelican.  But the Bristol, VA route (right on TN border) up to Wash-U Station was the remaining stub.

It seems to me I took the northbound Glade Spring - Marion trip in the morning but it could have been The Pelican if I did it later that afternoon.  Memory fades! 

But no varnish at all effective May 1, 1971 and to this day.  Not even when the "Harley Staggers Special" was running.  - a. s.

 

 

[Texas Zepher]

Before its run was terminated entirely upon the inauguration of Amtrak (5/1/71), The Birmingham Special did not run as far as Birmingham. 

Give its route during the "bitter end" period in early 1971.

Washington DC. - Lynchburg?

Lynchburg - Bristol VA. was discontinued before Amtrak. So early 1971 it would be Bristol?

Bristol VA to Birmingham was discontinued in 1970 or so. 

[KCSfan]

Before its run was terminated entirely upon the inauguration of Amtrak (5/1/71), The Birmingham Special did not run as far as Birmingham. 

Give its route during the "bitter end" period in early 1971. 

Washington - Atlanta

Mark

[al-in-chgo]

The two trains were the Morning Puget Sounder and Afternoon Puget Sounder and both operated right up to the introduction of the Streamlined Internationals.

Anyone else with a question.

Al - in - Stockton

Before its run was terminated entirely upon the inauguration of Amtrak (5/1/71), The Birmingham Special did not run as far as Birmingham. 

Give its route during the "bitter end" period in early 1971. 

 

[passengerfan]

The two trains were the Morning Puget Sounder and Afternoon Puget Sounder and both operated right up to the introduction of the Streamlined Internationals.

Anyone else with a question.

Al - in - Stockton

[Texas Zepher]

Name the predecessor passenger trains to the Internationals on the Seattle - Vancouver BC route operated by the GN?

Train #358?  I didn't know it had a name.

[al-in-chgo]

Come on it's an easy question?

I will make it easy it was the day trains.

Al - in - Stockton

The only way I could figure out the answer is to consult an old Off. Guide to the Rwys., and maybe not even then.  - a.s.

 

[passengerfan]

Come on it's an easy question?

I will make it easy it was the day trains.

Al - in - Stockton

[passengerfan]

Name the predecessor passenger trains to the Internationals on the Seattle - Vancouver BC route operated by the GN?

Al - in - Stockton

[Texas Zepher]

I'm guessing it was a Alco C636

Right manufacturer wrong class.  As it seems this question has run out of steam the answer is in the Burlington Northern 1977-1980 Annual.  BN unit 4082 was repainted back to NP colors on May 26, 1978 to recreate a crossing accident.   It carried the 4082 # in NP colors with "BN" initials under the road number on the cab. Oh yeah, the original unit was NP #858 not an SP&S unit.

There is another interesting trivia question to which I don't know the answer.  Other than this unit what was the last unit that carried the NP canoe paint scheme?  

I give credit to answering this one to passengerfan because he answered the hardest part of the question.   Passengerfan - your turn.

[arkansasrailfan]

I'm guessing it was a Alco C636

[Texas Zepher]

Sometimes it pays to sleep on something. As I recall the unit was actually an ex SP&S Alco that was painted into old NP colors for a lawsuit. The NP had already scrapped the actual unit that was involved in the incident and the BN merger had since taken place. The unit was repainted into the NP colors and after the court case was sent to scrap wearing the new paint. Am I close.

That is the situation.  It was used for a re-enactment of a grade crossing accident.   Now all we need is the class and unit number.  I'm looking for the unit number of the re-enactment paint scheme.

[passengerfan]

Sometimes it pays to sleep on something. As I recall the unit was actually an ex SP&S Alco that was painted into old NP colors for a lawsuit. The NP had already scrapped the actual unit that was involved in the incident and the BN merger had since taken place. The unit was repainted into the NP colors and after the court case was sent to scrap wearing the new paint. Am I close.

Al - in - Stockton  

[passengerfan]

It was an NP unit that was painted back to NP colors for a lawsuit brought against the RR. Can't remember the model or roadnumber.

Al - in - Stockton

[Texas Zepher]

So the unit was from the SLSF, right?

No.

I was gonna guess "Hustle Muscle", the first SD45.  But as far as I know it isn't scrapped.

Correct in the part where Huste Muscle is still out there and I think has been repainted into Empire Builder colors.  Incorrect in that is not the loco in question.

I am confused at the part where it was painted back to the original colors, not the new ones, right before scrapping?  Maybe for a special event?

Yes, you are on the right track, it was a special event.

it is painted in it's original colors and is preserved at a museum

No, that would have been way cool though.  It should have been.  That is the most ironic part of the story, where it went to scrap in this relatively brand new paint.   The photo that I have of the unit is of it sitting bright and shinny in the scrap yard line.

[arkansasrailfan]

it is painted in it's original colors and is preserved at a museum

[trainfan1221]

I was gonna guess "Hustle Muscle", the first SD45.  But as far as I know it isn't scrapped.  I am confused at the part where it was painted back to the original colors, not the new ones, right before scrapping?  Maybe for a special event?

[arkansasrailfan]

ohhh, that's what a WAG is. So the unit was from the SLSF, right?

[Texas Zepher]

D&H GP39-2 76xx  ...It's a WAG,

Knowing nothing about the D&H I can not speculate on how close a WAG (Wild Asx Guess) that was.  It is not the answer I'm looking for.

[Texas Zepher]

Gaw, another riddle!!! I'm guessing that the engine was from the BN merger. And that the unit was SLSF.

The BN merger part is correct. That should make it much easier.

I haven't as clue, but does it involve the SF/SP livery from (IIRC) late eighties/early nineties?

No.

[arkansasrailfan]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

D&H GP39-2 76xx

It's a WAG, but the best I have....

whats WAG?

[al-in-chgo]

I haven't as clue, but does it involve the SF/SP livery from (IIRC) late eighties/early nineties?  -  a.s.

[oltmannd]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

D&H GP39-2 76xx

It's a WAG, but the best I have....

[arkansasrailfan]

Gaw, another riddle!!! I'm guessing that the engine was from the BN merger. And that the unit was SLSF.

[Texas Zepher]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

[CShaveRR]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

[arkansasrailfan]

Since CShave got most of units, it's his turn.
There were six SD70ace heritage units, SD70ace GW 4141, The UP GE painted unit, the United Way loco(heard it was sitting in Fort Worth, Desert Storm(probably gone), and the SD70m and Sd40-2 duos painted for the 2002 and 1996 Olymipics.