Now, this CSX runaway is starting to sound plausible.
In his book, “CALL THE BIG HOOK,” author Sam Dougherty details the problem of engineers falsely believing they are in dynamic brake mode and mistakenly applying power with the throttle while thinking they are increasing field strength for dynamic braking. Dougherty says this was a common mistake that he had observed engineers making on several occasions. And on several other occasions, this mistake caused wrecks. He goes on to describe the details of one such wreck on the D&RGW near Crater, CO, on 12/25/68, where the engineer mistakenly applied power, causing the train to runaway on a downgrade.
Our museum railroad allows getting on and off of moving trains and pretty much everyone does it. I think it's a dangerous practice on that railroad. They give no training at all on the proper way to get on and off of a moving trains, the members that operate the trains don't do it for a full time job, some are only there a time or two a month if that so they tend to be a little rusty when they first start working anyway, and the majority of the members are probably 60 plus (some well past that age) so they aren't in the best of shape to be doing it anyway. Also we don't do much switching and usually run 3 - 4 car trains so the small amount of time it saves isn't worth the risks involved with doing it with an untrained inexperienced crew.
This isn't an issue that's confined just to railroads.
The other day a 'traditional' garbage truck crossed the street in front of me and as soon as it got to the other side, the 2 fellows hanging on the back- "runners" is what they're called locally - dropped off while it was still rolling slowly to a stop, and then threw the stuff from a few cans in. I didn;t stay to watch, but I know from seeing them before that mounting up while the truck is rolling by is also common, particularly after it has turned around, etc. On the other hand, few people ride a garbage truck for a significant portion of their lives, so there may be less risk of long-term joint damage and injuries, etc.
But I wonder if there are any other industries besides railroading and garbage that may involve so much boarding and dismounting of moving equipment as part of their daily operations. Any nominations ?
- Paul North.
lets get clear again on just about all American railroads, getting on and off moving equipment is prohibited and a wilfull rule violation.
If caught your career is history.
Yup, all switches flop over at least once!
zugmann Guess he just got fixated on the switch and lost all perspective. A few small mistakes can lead to some really, really big ones... Of course maybe if certain carriers wouldn't freak out over a simple run-through switch...
Guess he just got fixated on the switch and lost all perspective. A few small mistakes can lead to some really, really big ones...
Of course maybe if certain carriers wouldn't freak out over a simple run-through switch...
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Dutchrailnutlets get clear again on just about all American railroads, getting on and off moving equipment is prohibited and a wilfull rule violation. If caught your career is history.
The major roads, many of the msaller roads don't really seem to care (as evident in this thread).
And I've yet to hear of someone being fired for getting on or off moving equipment. Disciplined? Yes. But you can't do much without being disciplined anymore....
So let's not get overly-dramatic.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
Unintended repeat. Nothing to see here.
-b+or-(sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a)
I think....
Close - I believe the ''2a'' also belongs inside the SqRt parens and is subject to its operation.
But how that 'c' and the quadratic equation relates to anything, I don't 'see' either . . .
- PDN.
You're right: I mised a set of parenthesis.
It was originally a duplicate post. And I'm told it messes up the forum if there's nothing in a post or just simple period, so.....
OK, I get it now - likewise, I use "square root of 5" as a numerical equivalent of "Whatever . . ." or "Who knows ? . . . " in conversation. Interesting that we would both select Sq Rt expressions . . . - PDN.
Saw this. To put it lightly is this getting off on the wrong foot?
Thx IGN
Regarding the elimination of the fatigue of getting on and off of moving equipment that comes from prohibiting it, it almost seems like it would be more work hanging onto a car ladder until it stopped rather than just getting off on the fly when there is no more reason to ride it.
Apparently people missed where I put that CN would discipline you if you stopped your train every time you needed to get on and off.
10000 feet and no dynamics? Today is going to be a good day ...
traisessive1 Apparently people missed where I put that CN would discipline you if you stopped your train every time you needed to get on and off.
I caught that, and it is interesting that CN takes that position. But, at what level has elimination of the practice of getting on and off of moving equipment been implemented and by whom? Was this something mandatded by the FRA, or did all the class 1 railroads just decide to outlaw the practice simultaneously? Where does this ruling apply and not apply?
I can't speak for CN's lines in the USA 'cause I'm not sure.
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