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How many new Big Boys/Challengers do we need?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 12:28 PM
How many of the new Trix Big Boys have sold? That one goes for $700 also.[?]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 12:28 PM
How many of the new Trix Big Boys have sold? That one goes for $700 also.[?]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 1:23 PM
THE MODELERS ARE RIGHT. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE Big Boys/Challengers. How about paying more attention to detail, like installing engineers in the cabs and why not a smoke unit. I use DCC and really enjoy it . So do all of my nieces from age 5 and on up. I like the 4-6-0, or something that is smooth runing at slow speeds, with fly-wheels . I don't need speed. I need power!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 21, 2003 1:23 PM
THE MODELERS ARE RIGHT. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE Big Boys/Challengers. How about paying more attention to detail, like installing engineers in the cabs and why not a smoke unit. I use DCC and really enjoy it . So do all of my nieces from age 5 and on up. I like the 4-6-0, or something that is smooth runing at slow speeds, with fly-wheels . I don't need speed. I need power!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:31 AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:31 AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:37 AM
Ineed POWER! My railroad has 3 to 4 % grades, mountain passes, big bridges & mountains. My main stay right now is 2-8-2's. Lots of them with one small 2-6-6-2. I would like to see some 4-8-4's, 2-10-2's, or 2-10-4's.

My railroad is The Denver & Rio Grande Southern in standard gauge. Next year it will double in size. The grades will remain 2% to 4% with trains not exceeding 50 cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:37 AM
Ineed POWER! My railroad has 3 to 4 % grades, mountain passes, big bridges & mountains. My main stay right now is 2-8-2's. Lots of them with one small 2-6-6-2. I would like to see some 4-8-4's, 2-10-2's, or 2-10-4's.

My railroad is The Denver & Rio Grande Southern in standard gauge. Next year it will double in size. The grades will remain 2% to 4% with trains not exceeding 50 cars.
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:28 PM
I think the market is getting crowded with all the new Big Boys and Challengers coming out. On the other hand, it's great to see Athearn and Lionel manufacture BIG steam locomotives. There are a couple of big steamers I would like to see come from either Athearn, Lionel, Rivarossi, or all three is Santa Fe's 2900 class
4-8-4's or their 2-10-4's. Those would bring BIG sales.[:)]
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:28 PM
I think the market is getting crowded with all the new Big Boys and Challengers coming out. On the other hand, it's great to see Athearn and Lionel manufacture BIG steam locomotives. There are a couple of big steamers I would like to see come from either Athearn, Lionel, Rivarossi, or all three is Santa Fe's 2900 class
4-8-4's or their 2-10-4's. Those would bring BIG sales.[:)]
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:51 AM
Well; let's see (non-brass only)

4-8-8-4 Big Boy
Bowser, Rivarossi, Trix(Marklin) and lets not forget the ConCor(Monogram) static model for display on modern or smaller layouts.

4-6-6-4 Challenger
Athearn, Bowser, Lionel, Rivarossi, Roco(rumoured)

I hope I did not leave any out.

So the answers are 4 Big Boys and 5 Challengers.

Have fun, if you do not want one of these beasts, take it easy, something else will come along for you (and me).
Nigel N&W in HO scale, 1950 - 1955 (..and some a bit newer too) Now in San Jose, California
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Posted by nfmisso on Friday, July 25, 2003 8:51 AM
Well; let's see (non-brass only)

4-8-8-4 Big Boy
Bowser, Rivarossi, Trix(Marklin) and lets not forget the ConCor(Monogram) static model for display on modern or smaller layouts.

4-6-6-4 Challenger
Athearn, Bowser, Lionel, Rivarossi, Roco(rumoured)

I hope I did not leave any out.

So the answers are 4 Big Boys and 5 Challengers.

Have fun, if you do not want one of these beasts, take it easy, something else will come along for you (and me).
Nigel N&W in HO scale, 1950 - 1955 (..and some a bit newer too) Now in San Jose, California
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:55 PM
I model the CNW and would like to see more its engines made, however I know it will never happen in plastic, too small a market. That said, how about some of the early ATSF types-flexible boilers, etc. and the Erie Tri-plexs, and other odd balls? I bet they would sell to more than just the operators. Survey, anyone? Al
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:55 PM
I model the CNW and would like to see more its engines made, however I know it will never happen in plastic, too small a market. That said, how about some of the early ATSF types-flexible boilers, etc. and the Erie Tri-plexs, and other odd balls? I bet they would sell to more than just the operators. Survey, anyone? Al
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 2:33 PM
I posted on another section of the forum, but to say again "enough Big Boys, Challengers & F-7s already"! Do some that have not been done (Big think Virginian 2-10-10-2 or Erie 2-8-8-8-2), Diesel Kraus-Maffie Diesel Hydrolic (only poor model). Maybe smaller is better! How about a CNJ 2-6-4T (would look nice with some Harrimon coaches or shorter hvywgts).

Foreign; Canadian Steam (No it is a foreign country, really) or exotic and foreign SAR Beyer Garrets.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 2:33 PM
I posted on another section of the forum, but to say again "enough Big Boys, Challengers & F-7s already"! Do some that have not been done (Big think Virginian 2-10-10-2 or Erie 2-8-8-8-2), Diesel Kraus-Maffie Diesel Hydrolic (only poor model). Maybe smaller is better! How about a CNJ 2-6-4T (would look nice with some Harrimon coaches or shorter hvywgts).

Foreign; Canadian Steam (No it is a foreign country, really) or exotic and foreign SAR Beyer Garrets.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:54 PM
Support the companies that have stood by the HO scalers all along. I bought the grandson a Lionel G guage train set and now I can't get track or turnouts or anything for it. Look it up at Walthers, all Lionel G out of stock!!! Looks like Lionel moved into G to make a big score and when it didn't pan out they quit and left me and others with non supported G equipment. Now they are looking to do the same in HO and I'll bet dollars to donuts the end results will be the same. Two years from now you'll break a coupler and find Lionel don't make or support HO anymore and there are no spare parts. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. NEVER AGAIN LIONEL!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:54 PM
Support the companies that have stood by the HO scalers all along. I bought the grandson a Lionel G guage train set and now I can't get track or turnouts or anything for it. Look it up at Walthers, all Lionel G out of stock!!! Looks like Lionel moved into G to make a big score and when it didn't pan out they quit and left me and others with non supported G equipment. Now they are looking to do the same in HO and I'll bet dollars to donuts the end results will be the same. Two years from now you'll break a coupler and find Lionel don't make or support HO anymore and there are no spare parts. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. NEVER AGAIN LIONEL!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:00 AM
My opinion is, if you're going to make a new Challenger, at least make it different. Again, selfishly, how about a WP 4-6-6-4? Maybe a D&RGW version?
I don't model steam, and I model in N, however I DO like the HO Bachmann 2-8-0, 4-6-0 and 4-8-2s. When I was younger and modeled in HO, I loved the Roundhouse kit locos. They all had a family appearance that made them ideal for a small freelanced railroad.
I would imagine smaller locos would sell better than huge ones, because most of us don't have the room for such monsters.
Just my two cents.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:00 AM
My opinion is, if you're going to make a new Challenger, at least make it different. Again, selfishly, how about a WP 4-6-6-4? Maybe a D&RGW version?
I don't model steam, and I model in N, however I DO like the HO Bachmann 2-8-0, 4-6-0 and 4-8-2s. When I was younger and modeled in HO, I loved the Roundhouse kit locos. They all had a family appearance that made them ideal for a small freelanced railroad.
I would imagine smaller locos would sell better than huge ones, because most of us don't have the room for such monsters.
Just my two cents.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 25, 2003 8:39 AM
I think "bigger is better" has gone too far. What about more smaller interesting
locomotives....a p2 pacific instead of the USRA version. Take a look at the classy
p2 on page 47 of Willaim E. Griffen, Jr.s "Seaboard...route of courteous service"...
now, that's an engine!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 25, 2003 8:39 AM
I think "bigger is better" has gone too far. What about more smaller interesting
locomotives....a p2 pacific instead of the USRA version. Take a look at the classy
p2 on page 47 of Willaim E. Griffen, Jr.s "Seaboard...route of courteous service"...
now, that's an engine!
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Posted by CP5415 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:01 PM
How about NONE! How many modelers out there have the room for such large locomotives. I wish I did.
How hard would it be for a manufacturer to produce a limited run of active steam locomotives? The basic drives are there, just tweak the bodies & cabs a bit to make them more prototypical!!
How about the 4-6-4 H1B Canadian Pacific 2816? Or how about one of the SOO Pacifics? Or even a South Simcoe 4-4-0 or 4-6-0?
Just my 2 cents

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Posted by CP5415 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:01 PM
How about NONE! How many modelers out there have the room for such large locomotives. I wish I did.
How hard would it be for a manufacturer to produce a limited run of active steam locomotives? The basic drives are there, just tweak the bodies & cabs a bit to make them more prototypical!!
How about the 4-6-4 H1B Canadian Pacific 2816? Or how about one of the SOO Pacifics? Or even a South Simcoe 4-4-0 or 4-6-0?
Just my 2 cents

Gordon

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:04 PM
You know I would really like to see a Trix version of the SP cab forward. I am extremely happy with my Trix Big Boy (#4013) and I have seen the 4015. Both are great locos.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:04 PM
You know I would really like to see a Trix version of the SP cab forward. I am extremely happy with my Trix Big Boy (#4013) and I have seen the 4015. Both are great locos.
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:01 AM
The more the merrier -- competition helps keep prices down. When Rivarossi was the only one making a Big Boy, if you didn't like their model you had no where else to turn. Now we have die-cast metal models coming out with sound systems and decoders already installed for a price that is not that much more than Rivarossi charged for a plastic model with no DCC or sound capability.
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:01 AM
The more the merrier -- competition helps keep prices down. When Rivarossi was the only one making a Big Boy, if you didn't like their model you had no where else to turn. Now we have die-cast metal models coming out with sound systems and decoders already installed for a price that is not that much more than Rivarossi charged for a plastic model with no DCC or sound capability.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 4:38 PM
Excuuuuuse me !!!!!!! The selection of N&W mallets PALES in comparison to
the UP. And there are even less non-articulateds for the N&W! Yet I agree on 2 things.
#1, there are too many UP mallets. #2, articulateds are a hassle for small layouts.
Believe me, I know. My dad has cut off expansion in the garage, and a 2 level layout
might be in order to accomidate the A's and Y's, even though I will not be able to afford them. P.S.- mallets are big, powerful, and give a lot of action. Its the effect
that they present, like battling up a grade on the blue ridge
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 4:38 PM
Excuuuuuse me !!!!!!! The selection of N&W mallets PALES in comparison to
the UP. And there are even less non-articulateds for the N&W! Yet I agree on 2 things.
#1, there are too many UP mallets. #2, articulateds are a hassle for small layouts.
Believe me, I know. My dad has cut off expansion in the garage, and a 2 level layout
might be in order to accomidate the A's and Y's, even though I will not be able to afford them. P.S.- mallets are big, powerful, and give a lot of action. Its the effect
that they present, like battling up a grade on the blue ridge

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