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Jeffreys Trackside Diner November 2022

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 2:55 PM

I went out today to pick up beer for an open house the GF is having tomorrow, the day before Thanksgiving.  I had the task of selecting a couple of beers that were not IPAs or craft beers, but not Budweiser clones we'd pour down the sink the next day if they weren't finished.  I got Labatts Blue and Moosehead.  But, while I was there I noticed they actually had some Hamms beer for sale.  And I'm in Delaware.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 2:48 PM

Good evening all.

It says a 'Trip Around the World', actually 'A  Trip Around U.S.A. and Europe'.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUZ0jTU1o5s&ab_channel=VINTAGESTORIES

 

Tyneside Model Railway Exhibition

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2Q_V6YpxA&ab_channel=CattonparkJunction

 

Enjoy

 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:50 PM

Track fiddler
Good afternoon York1 The only issue with his bar was that he served Hamm's Beer on tap.  That stuff was hard to take after drinking other beer on our way to his place. Was that a shot John?  Guess it was taken that way.  Would find it rather ironic singling out that brand after a few references to Hamm's commercials Could be you're upset about that Blue Bunny, Dairy Queen humor thing.  If so, that was nothing more than a buddy poking fun with another buddy to share an agreeable humor to laugh about it together....That's all

 

TF, I'm not sure what I said?  I didn't take anything said about ice cream or anything else as bad.  After drinking other beers on our way to the bar serving spaghetti, Hamms beer did not taste good.  That's all I meant.

Honestly, after being married for 44 years and also being a school principal those years, it is almost impossible to upset me.

I think it might be good for me to turn off the computer a while and work on the layout.

Have a good rest of the day, everyone.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:27 PM

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Someone on their soapbox?

 
 
Yes it is.  Sometimes I guess it's a good idea to look something up to answer my own question before inquiring. 
 
It's a makeshift box or podium for someone to give an informal speech of opinionsLaugh
 
 
 
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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:18 PM

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Another thing I'm confused about is  SoapBox this emoji,

Someone on their soapbox?

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:07 PM

Good afternoon

York1

The only issue with his bar was that he served Hamm's Beer on tap.  That stuff was hard to take after drinking other beer on our way to his place.

Was that a shot John? Laugh

Guess it was taken that way.  Would find it rather ironic, singling out that brand after a few references to Hamm's commercialsHuh?

Could be you're upset about that Blue Bunny, Dairy Queen humor thing.  If so, that was nothing more than a buddy poking fun with another buddy to share an agreeable humor to laugh about it together....That's allSmile

Never liked Hamm's beer but loved their commercials. Also don't like Budweiser, Miller, Michelob or most any other domestic beer.  In my opinion, they taste watered down and quite bland lacking enough flavor.  Now a fine, full bodied Craft beer or tasteful lmport is a way different storyPirate

 

Another thing I'm confused about is SoapBox this emoji.

 

Have a great rest of your day gentlemenWink

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 9:10 AM

Good morning, diners.  Bacon, eggs, and coffee, Chloe.

I also did not mean to cause any upset with the sugar discussion!  Enough said.

Bear, when I was in college, one of the bars we frequented, Dominics, was run by an Italian immigrant.  Each Thursday evening was Spaghetti Night.  He made everything from scratch.  I believe it was the first time I had eaten homemade spaghetti noodles.  They were thicker than any I had eaten before.  That spaghetti was the best!

The only issue with his bar was that he served Hamm's Beer on tap.  That stuff was hard to take after drinking other beer on our way to his place.

When I think of Sicily, I don't normally think of trains.  But they have a good network of train routes.  These are near Mt. Etna:

 

 

Have a great day, everyone!

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 5:56 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Flo, a large coffee in a New York Central mug please.

Spent the whole day yesterday bending over tables inspecting various bits that require an annual inspection.  My back sure is sore today!  Going to have to have a good soak in the hot tub tonight.

In regards to corn syrup, I feel especially bad for my mother.  Not only does it seem to be found in 90% of the food products sold in the U.S., in her mid 60's my mom developed a horrible allergy to corn in any form.  Even small amounts of it as an ingredient in something else causes her throat to close up.  She was always healthy, ate well, exercised, and then her body had a medical meltdown about 10 years ago.  She cannot eat anything with corn or yeast.  She has to read every label of every product they buy at the stores as she has found the hard way, a product that did not have corn syrup in it one time had it the next, and vice versa.  I feel so bad for her.

North Brit David, I have to say you have been an exceptional host for Italy!  I especially enjoyed the Italian model railroad video you recently posted a link to.  Thanks!

Ciao everyone!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 4:57 AM

Good morning Diners.   A glass of white wine, some meats, cheeses and breads please,  Brunhilda.

 

York1John  mentions  Presicce.   Presicce is in the Puglia Region of Italy.  

 

Benvenuti in Puglia -  Welcome to Puglia.

It was in 1973 when I visited here.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAnsNOqUOuY&ab_channel=TRACKS

 

Presicce the land of sea and sunshine.   Well not always ----

Still beautiful imo.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWMbBc-6Bo&ab_channel=quiSalentoRedazione

 

Trains in Bari Centrale Station

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6DngNHNHd0&ab_channel=jazzcool

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x6Z7zOkd1Q&ab_channel=DanFlyingSolo

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 3:09 AM

Track fiddler
It was the Bear with his question, ("What is it with the American love affair with sugar"?) that started it. IT WAS THE BEAR!!!LaughLaughLaugh Wink

‘Twas I!!!
SoapBox
“What is it with the American love affair with sugar” was in retrospect, a rhetorical question. I don’t have a beef with sugar producers, it’s a goodly part of Fijis economy.
At the risk of getting all preachy, sugar in moderation, has its place. However, not only is sugar a sweetener, but it is a flavour enhancer, a preservative, and a cheap means of bulking out food. I have to come clean and declare that I’m a Type 2 Diabetic, self-inflicted, and while I could come up with excuses, that’s all they would be.
So as an avid processed food label reader, what gets me is the amount of “sugar,” and I hate to say Mr. TF, there is no “Better type” sugar, that is unnecessarily added to food, and it appears to be particularly bad in US processed food.  Ick!
 
So, I don’t want you guys to feel guilty about your “sweet treats,” just remember that magic word, Moderation! (That’s why I like the Diner, I can indulge!!)
BTW while I’ll never not be a Type 2 Diabetic, due to a far better diet, I’ve had to cut back on my meds as my blood sugar count was getting too low. And boy, does food taste good!!!Dinner
 
I see David linked us to Monte Cassino.
 
When I first left home to attend a trade course, I stayed in a boarding house run by Mrs. Max. Mrs. Max’s dad had visited the east coast of Italy and Mont Cassino as a member of the 28th Māori Battalion during WW2. He came home with a few scars and an Italian war bride.
 
Now even when I was a young cub, food in NZ was meat, potatoes and three veg, (boiled to pasteIck!), and spaghetti came in a tin, so Mrs. Max’s Italian based meals while initially unusual became something to be looked forward too!
Mrs. Max catered for four boarders who were at different stages of the course, so eventually I became the senior boarder.
Anyhow we had a new guy arrive, and it happened to be “Italian night.” Newbie took one look at his spaghetti bolognaise with all the trimmings, and declared “I’m not eating this muck”
Mr. Max a huge Māori gentleman, and afraid of no man, picked up his plate and utensils nodded to we three longest serving boarders, and we all removed ourselves and our food, at speed to the garage, where we thoroughly enjoyed our meal, but not quite managing to be out of earshot!!  
The young whippersnapper who had had to endure well deserved tongue lashing from Mrs. Max, whose temperament we found out that evening, when aroused reflected the sum of both her parents; did not darken the door of that boarding house again.
 
I must admit that when the course was over, I left Mrs. Max boarding house, feeling that I had left another family behind.
 
Italy6 by Bear, on Flickr
 
water by Bear, on Flickr
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 5:02 PM

BATMAN

 

 
Brings back memories Brent.  We used to have Santa and Frosty we'd put in the front yard every year.  Some mean kids went around Prior Lake and knifed all the blow up characters like that.  That's when Judy found out she knew how to sewLaugh
 
Do you blow em up inside first to check for leaks cuz it's easier to fix them inside?  I would imagine you'll have to somewhat deflate them to get them out the doorHuh?...Smile, Wink & Grin
 
 
 
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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 4:55 PM

Good evening

I'm familiar with Moose Lake Jim.  Ely was only about an hour south from where I went to school in Orr Mn.  Those commercials must have been before the ones I'm familiar with. 

One of the Sasha the Bear Hamm's commercials was filmed on Lake Namakan, where Rainy Lake flows into Kettle Falls, conecting to Lake Kabetogama, the lake we lived on.  Namakan's a strong two hours plus, north and a bit east of Ely as the crow flies.

Huh.  The controversy of Hamm's beer commercials directed to children.  Now why would a Kid want a Hamm's beer bottle? Laugh  The advertising must have been workingWhistling 

That's cool you've held on to that Hamm's bottle all these years.  

 

 

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Posted by up831 on Monday, November 21, 2022 4:42 PM

Hi Everyone,

Brunhilda, coffee with cream, please.

The town in Italy looks interesting especially its location.  The picture looks a bit like some places in Mexico.  

Hamms beer:  I remember the Hamms beer commercials from when I was a kid.  Then there were the commercials where it shows the beer glasses dancing back and forth with the lake and island in the background.  Well, that island exists And I've been on it.  If memory serves it is on Moose Lake near the Bill Rom Outfitters base East of Ely, MN.  The island kind of hides the narrows that goes into the next lake.  Anyway, resourceful scout that I was, I rummaged around and found a Hamms beer bottle in a trash pile.  I brought it home and asked my Mom to wash it up for me.  I still have it.  That was a long time ago.

Might as well do winter trains next month because we'll all be sick of winter by February.

Hawaii used to grow a lot of sugar cane.  I can remember them on Oahu on both Ewa and North Shore.  The cane fields now are all gone.  From what I understand, the Hawaiians were very generous in sharing their knowledge Of growing sugar cane.  The other countries took that knowledge, applied it, undercut Hawaiians in price, and eventually drove them out of business.  I'm sure it's not quite that simple, but that's the prevailing story.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 21, 2022 3:15 PM

York1

Good news for those of you who are already tired of winter.

Presicce, a small town in Italy, is offering $30,000 American to anyone who will move there, buy one of the pre-1991 homes, and live there.  The average price of the homes is around $25,000.  

After some of you were digging out from several feet of snow, this might sound pretty good.

 

 

 

 

 
 
Also in Molise
 
 
 
 
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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 3:15 PM

Huh!  Things change on a dime. The numbers are down at the hotel and she can have Friday, Saturday off as well.  So we can go to Wisconsin. 

Just wonder what we're going to do with that bird and a third rib roast.  Maybe have two ThanksgivingsDinner  One this week, one next weekLaugh

 

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 21, 2022 3:10 PM

I got almost that far south in Italy on my first European vacation in my 20s, so many girlfriends ago.  I think that was the "goat on the train" ride I described earlier.  We got to Brindisi, and hopped a ferry boat to Athens.  As I recall, topless sunbathing was acceptable for all on the deck of the ferry.

That trip was an awakening for a young guy who thought the old homes in Massachusetts were truly ancient.  The antiquities of Greece put those to shame, but the next stop was Austria.  The museum in Salzburg, named for the prehistoric salt mines, brought us back to cave man times.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, November 21, 2022 2:32 PM

Good news for those of you who are already tired of winter.

Presicce, a small town in Italy, is offering $30,000 American to anyone who will move there, buy one of the pre-1991 homes, and live there.  The average price of the homes is around $25,000.  

After some of you were digging out from several feet of snow, this might sound pretty good.

 

 

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, November 21, 2022 12:55 PM

There has been a strange thumping sound as someone or something is trying to open the hatch from the crawlspace. Stephen King eat your heart out. I told them they have to wait at least another week.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 21, 2022 12:42 PM

Only another week to go in Italy.

 

Monte Cassino.

Here in the U.K. during WW2   mining familes were exempt from call up to the Forces  and had to work down the mines.   Even families who had left mining were also enlisted back to the mines.   My eldest uncle wanted to be in the Royal Navy, but had to work in the mines.  (He hated it.)

My father was due to be called to the mines, but he left home and enlisted to the Army.  He lied about his age and was a 'boy soldier'. At 15 years of age  he was shipped out to North Africa  and was at El Alamein.    Grandma was furious when she found out.

Anyway, after North Africa 'Italian sunshine' was next  for a then 16 years old.   For some reason he went 'sightseeing'  to Monte Cassino   before he went to Anzio  and north to Venice.

 

Monte Cassino  in 2021

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1AXNQezcgw&ab_channel=TravelMemories

 

Dinner  Tonight it is Corned Beef Hash.   I have made a lot, so bring your favourite drink and join in.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 12:18 PM

Good afternoon

 

York1

My county is a rectange, about 20 miles by 30 miles, but it is the 8th largest corn producing county in the U.S.

In defense of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup and regular granulated sugar are almost exactly the same thing.  High fructose corn syrup is 55% fructose and 42% glucose, with water.  Regular granulated sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose.  A human body treats corn syrup and sugar both exactly the same.

When we lived in Lousiana, there were huge sugar cane fields west and northwest of New Orleans.  While they didn't raise as much as Florida, it was still an important crop.

 

Hi John.  Have enjoyed seeing the progress you've been making on your bridges as they sure have turned out well.

You are exactly correct on your percentage data of cane sugar versus corn syrup sweeteners.  Have read many articles of documented fact on both sides of the controversy.  From what was gathered, there is no solid conclusions on the subject like many others.  Only opinions of what researchers or inquiring individuals decide to believe is true.  Certainly respect your opinion and would never try to sway it.

For the most part, Judy and I are a couple of health nuts and mainly eat organic and natural foods, drinks, fruits, vegetables, etc with the occasional garbage treat as we call them.  Yes, we buy some products with the funky hard to pronounce words but the ones that are minimal.  Can't get away from it all.

We basically stay away from all GMO's (corn syrup included) for one simple fact.  If a natural source is available in lieu of genetically modified organisms as a choice, we tend to stay away from the laboratory even though the natural stuff cost a bit more.  Choice of the corn field versus the sugar cane field for sweeteners, I'll take the one on the right. 

Judy asked me a few years ago, ("If high fructose corn syrup is so much cheaper than sugar, why don't we just buy a bucket of it and use it in the kitchen"?)  She caught me off guard for a moment while looking at her like thisIndifferent  Then she smiledLaugh

 

Now in my defense, as we seem to have some new found fructose/glucose controversy in the Diner.  It was the Bear with his question, ("What is it with the American love affair with sugar"?) that started it.

IT WAS THE BEAR!!! LaughLaughLaugh...Wink

 

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, November 21, 2022 11:07 AM

York1
When we lived in Lousiana, there were huge sugar cane fields west and northwest of New Orleans.  While they didn't raise as much as Florida, it was still an important crop.

Louisiana produces about 13 million tons of sugar cane per year on about half a million acres.

They have Lake Pontchartrain, we have Lake Okeechobee. It requires a lot of water to grow sugar cane.

The muddy fields in Louisiana were the first to use the Australian made Austoft mechanical cane harvester. Florida soon followed suit, and mechanical cane harvesting became the norm in the early 1990s. 

Maintaining mechanical harvesting equipment became an important pillar in my early career.

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Austoft opened their United States headquarters in Fort Myers, Florida, and I became a satellite technician for product support.

Cameco also sold a lot of harvesters in Florida. I think Case makes most of the cane harvesters used now.

-Kevin

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 9:15 AM

doctorwayne

 

 
gmpullman
I don't know if he ships up north or maybe there's somewhere you can order them?

Oh yeah, Don definitely ships up-north, even all the way to the Great White North here in Canada.

Wayne

 
LaughLaugh  Love it Wayne!  Was hoping you would have posted some of your beautiful work there. 
 
One of the Great White North memories came to mind while making coffee the other morning.  The fishing trip visits have been many over the years.

https://youtu.be/XSb_VHmfgVk

Always found it fascinating how many people have made boatloads of money off of nonsense.

 

 

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Posted by York1 on Monday, November 21, 2022 9:10 AM

Good morning, diners.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, please.

More packing and planning today.  Preparing for a long trip beginning next week.  Each country seems to have different Covid regulations, and different forms of vaccination proof to carry.

In addition, there are some other obligations today.  I've complained before, but that won't stop me from complaining again.  Lately, I'm as busy in retirement as I was when I was working.  I need a vacation from retirement.

My county is a rectange, about 20 miles by 30 miles, but it is the 8th largest corn producing county in the U.S.

In defense of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup and regular granulated sugar are almost exactly the same thing.  High fructose corn syrup is 55% fructose and 42% glucose, with water.  Regular granulated sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose.  A human body treats corn syrup and sugar both exactly the same.

When we lived in Lousiana, there were huge sugar cane fields west and northwest of New Orleans.  While they didn't raise as much as Florida, it was still an important crop.

Before the Civil War, after a process was invented to granulate sugar, sugar cane became such an important product that over half of all the millionaires in the U.S. lived in a 50-mile stretch of land along the Mississippi River between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.  There are a lot of great old plantations in that area.

Well, I've talked a lot more than most would prefer.  I have to get busy.

I hope everyone has a great day.

 

Edit -- Top of the Page!

Since I don't like anything sweet other than Nutty Buddies and Ice Cream, I just offer a breakfast of salty things:  Bacon, sausage, eggs, toast, and grits.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, November 21, 2022 7:18 AM

Good morning

Not much on deck for today.  Taking judy to work this morning and it's back to the modeling board.  

Happy she has Thanksgiving off this year as last year she had to work.  Can't go to invites to be with Family out of town as she didn't get enough time off.  My Daughters are going to their moms in Arizona, so it's just us this year.

We'll put some Christmas music on and have fun prepping and cooking food all day.  And then, eat the all day efforts in 20 minutesLaugh 

Yep, that's exactly how it works but sure is taysteeDinner

 

Happy Holidays GentlemenWink

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 21, 2022 5:18 AM

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 21, 2022 4:29 AM

Good morning Diners.  A large mocaccino please,  Zoe.

A cold, white morning.

 

National Train Museum in Naples.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnZMC5pTg4&ab_channel=OpenRoader

 

Model Railroad Layout  Italian style.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N32SsWVlCAs&ab_channel=PILENTUM

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, November 21, 2022 1:19 AM

JaBear
What is it with the American love affair with sugar?

Not sure, but I hope it keeps up.

Florida produced 17 million tons of sugar cane annually, and over 50% of the sugar used in the United States.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 20, 2022 9:28 PM

richhotrain
But, beware. One Rusty Nail will you thoroughly pleased. A second Rusty Nail will turn you totally carefree. A third Rusty Nail will require assistance from the nearest bystander.

Hi Rich,

Dianne and I love Rusty Nails! We have them regularly, but as you suggest, one is enough!!

Cheers!!

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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, November 20, 2022 7:28 PM

MisterBeasley

We were sorry to miss the Dinner Train in Bardstown, Kentucky, but the timing wasn't right as they only ran them on the weekends this time of year.  

 
I can relate to that one Mister B.  We were quite bummed out in Branson, Missouri a few years ago.  Expected to take a Christmas train dinner excursion but the Branson trains were shut down for the Holidays.
 
We had alot of fun finding other things to do on that road trip though.
 
 
 
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Posted by Track fiddler on Sunday, November 20, 2022 7:21 PM

gmpullman

 

 
BATMAN
Not sure if we have a theme for next month, but how about "trains in winter" and "Christmas trains"?

 

I'm game —

 Train 5 at Crescent by Mike Danneman, on Flickr

 
Always liked snowy Christmas card scenes like the photo above.  Since snow covered bridges fit into that theme, I'd go along with dat.
 
 
 
TF

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