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Jeffreys Track Side Diner - MARCH, 2019: Upstate New York Locked

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 3, 2019 1:45 AM

Hi Brent,

Very interesting video! I wish there was a way to translate it. 

Doing it with Royal Hudsons would be quite a project. I suspect that a real Royal Hudson would weigh just a touch more than the locomotive in the video. That would necessitate using a lot more HO scale models to make it move.

I hope Jason doesn't see this!Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaughLaugh

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:10 AM

hon30critter
I hope Jason doesn't see this!

I bet he´d rather sell them than burn them in the attempt to pull the real thing! Laugh

I forgot to mention, the record was set 6 years ago.

Happy times!

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 3, 2019 3:06 AM

Tinplate Toddler
I bet he´d rather sell them than burn them in the attempt to pull the real thing

I don't know Ulrich. Jason can be pretty nuts when he wants to be!

However, I suspect that you are right.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:13 AM

Amazing.  I wonder what that whole adventure cost.  I like this one better.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:39 AM

Good morning .... 

Yesterday, I went with friends to Evansville, IN for a train show. I bought a few coal hoppers which I really did not need. I have plenty already. 

We certainly have had a lot of rain in this region for several weeks. 

I took this photo from the US 41 bridge entering Evansville. As you can see, the Ohio River is very high. Normally, there is dry land to the left of the row of trees. I think the river was a mile or so wider than normal. 

Today, we are going to Nashville again, to see Shelley's Mom. Again, we will detour around last week's major mudslide near Nashville. The last I heard was it will take two weeks to clear the highway. 

I'll catch up on your comments later. It is good to see so many of you are here particpating. It should be a good month for the Diner. 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:59 AM

I had to go to Orlando last week for work on Tuesday. Of coarse, I stopped in Colonial Photo & Hobby. CP&H is my favorite hobby shop. I first went there with my grandmother when I was 10. It has been in Orlando for fifty years, and has always been going strong.

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Well, I was shocked to see the low level of stock in the store. It looks like they are selling off inventory and not re-stocking. It all looked quite sad.

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My other favorite hobby shop in Orlando, Sci-Fi-City (which used to be NCC1701 in the 1980s), is in similar condition.

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Both of these shops now have the feel of a near-to-out-of-business state of operation. This is especially surprising because we just had what was by many accounts an amazing holiday sales season.

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Metro Trains here in Fort Myers had empty shelves right after Christmas, but restocked quickly.

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I am worried. I don't like seeing my old friends this sickly.

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-Kevin

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Sunday, March 3, 2019 10:45 AM

Good afternoon, 

 

well that was a bust , We went down to the South house to take a few days off. I came down with a respiratory flu so we came back home yesterday morning. I laid in bed all day yesterday. I feel better today but still need a bucket under my nose. 

 

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Posted by CNCharlie on Sunday, March 3, 2019 12:08 PM

Good Afternoon,

Well the extreme cold warning has been lifted, the windchill is only -37C right now. It will warm up tomorrow with temps in the single digit, minus of course and Celcius. 

My friend who had the heart attack is doing very well considering. He is off the ventilator and is now in the re-hab wing. It will be a slow process but it looks like he will be ok. Mind you I expect his activities will be severly curtailed in the future. 

Not a lot new here, just doing odd jobs around the house. 

As far as New York goes, I can't add anything as I have only been to NYC once and that was 25 years ago to hear Jose Carreras at Carnegie Hall. We did enjoy our visit but have no plans to go back. 

Well, back to the handyman stuff.

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, March 3, 2019 1:30 PM

Good morning from the land of nearly endless sunshine, it 2c and life is good.

Just got off an hour on the bike, had not exercised in a week except for some weights as I had a nasty sniffle and would hack my guts out at the least little bit of exertion, only a little hacking today not enough to cut the ride short. Once I stop sweating, it will be shower, breakfast, trainroom. The Doc suggested taking my blood pressure because of my activity level for an old guy. It was up when I had a cold for a few days and now it is back down to where it always is around 110/65 pulse rate55. It was probably all that extra coffee I was having to console myself from being sick.Crying

Went and saw this monster house yesterday that the wife wanted to see, had an awesome trainroom, however, it was a ridiculous size for two people. It was really high end on the finishing and a stunning piece of land 8 acres I think. The house we could afford, the staff to clean it and maintain it, not so much.  

Last night our friends asked us if we wanted to go to Disneyland in Florida at the end of the year, we declined. We hate crowds and cities and I never stand in line for anything. We asked our kids growing up if they wanted to go to Disneyland and they were lukewarm at the idea at best. They chose Hawaii instead when we gave them the choice. 

I also have some handyman stuff to take care of, I like everything working perfectly and have been known to change light bulbs during dinner even if it was only one of ten bulbs in the fixture over the table.Laugh

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Time to hit the shower.

All the best to all.

Brent

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 3, 2019 1:36 PM

Good Day, Folks

A few Sunday Newsreels to keep us up to date:

The PRR station at Port Columbus, Ohio, was built to transfer passengers to the TAT Airline Limited, Coast-to-Coast service.

Imagine the mechanical works on that Bucyrus Erie ballast cleaner! Watch your fingers!

At 9:05 you catch a glimpse of a Pan American Airways Service LIFE PRESERVER! I just wonder what one of these would fetch at an auction today?

 Cheers, Ed

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:36 PM

Cool video Ed,  that ballast cleaner!  wow, what a pile of iron.  Did you notice the poling pocket!  AS IF!  Surprise

Did Howard Hues design that sea plan?  Laugh

Excellent stuff!

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Posted by Mister Mikado on Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:39 PM

Ed, on the left side of the Hudson on Hudson photo, is that another rail line coming off the river and running under the main line? Also it looks halfsize. Are my eyes playing tricks? -Rob

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Posted by herrinchoker on Sunday, March 3, 2019 4:53 PM

Many of us here in the State of Maine remember the loss of the 1969 potato crop in the Selkirk Yard due to the ineffective merger of Penn Central, NY+NH, and NYS+W. The entire crop rotted in the rail cars.

This all but wiped out the Maine Central, and the Bangor and Aroostook railroads, along with the majority of potato farmers here in the State. After this incident, farmers vowed never to use rail shipment for their products again.

The rail lines are still active, but at a much reduced rate, and market.

Mention New York in parts of this state and the response will not be kindly----

New York City?? been there, done that, don't want to go back.!

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:11 PM

 Afternoon Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer please.

 Brent That was a stupid video! What sane person would try to pull a real train with Model HO engines! Sadly, I understand?Whistling

 Breakfast, made a Killer Omelet. Reason I say killer, I think it would kill Ulrich. Fried some sausage, onions and mushroom's in butter. 4 Extra large eggs, then added the sausage, onions and mushroom's. Added some chili poweder, chesse, sosta and jalapeno peppers! Dinner

 Cleaned off my Snap On Tool Box. Top was covred by the wife junk that made it to the garage / train room. Mainly boxes she wanted to save so she could store more junk.

 Next, I am going to take a lot of train stuff to K-10 model trains that he can give away to kids. Mostly Life Like Rolling stock, if I have not up grade them in 11 years, guess I am not going to!

 Later, Ken

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Posted by MARTIN STATION on Sunday, March 3, 2019 6:03 PM

Hey Gerry,

   I also went to the train show in Evansville, IN. Looked to me like they had a really good turn out, lots of people there. After that me and the wife headed south of Henderson, KY to the Farmer and Frenchman for lunch. We crossed those same twin bridges you did and you're right, the flooding was really bad, some of the worst I have seen in awhile.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:10 PM

Charlie, glad to hear some good news.

One of my wife's coworkers was bitten by her niece's cat.  She got a major infection of the tendons in her hand.  She has had one operation and may need tendon reconstruction, is out of work, and had marginal insurance from her physician employer.

I thought I mentioned it, but don't see the post, my college roommate's grand nephew skied over a big jump and landed on the flat.  He powdered (medical black humor term) both knees with multiple fractures through the joint surfaces and tore every ligament and meniscus in both knees. 

Even worse, I see that a Military Academy Cadet died in a ski accident last week. 

One more tragedy, if you can bear it.  A woman stopped to give a woman panhandler with a baby some money around Christmas.  Supposedly an accomplice reached into the car and stabbed the woman and took her handbag.  Turns out to be another hoax.  Police arrested her husband and step daughter for murder.   People are no darn good.

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:49 PM

cudaken
Breakfast, made a Killer Omelet. Reason I say killer, I think it would kill Ulrich. Fried some sausage, onions and mushroom's in butter. 4 Extra large eggs, then added the sausage, onions and mushroom's. Added some chili poweder, chesse, sosta and jalapeno peppers!

Indeed it would kill me! This is more than Petra and I together could eat!

cudaken
What sane person would try to pull a real train with Model HO engines!

The total cost of this "event" was something like $10,000, which bought the Miniatur Wunderland people prime time coverage in the TV news all over Germany, if not Europe, plus an entry into the Guiness Book of World Records. This kind of money usually is not enough to buy you a half page ad in a magazine. Not so stupid!

Happy times!

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Posted by drgwcs on Sunday, March 3, 2019 7:57 PM

I mainly lurk in the diner but thought I might post these up that my father Weldon took in 1960 on a trip to New York City

Vintage L-Train action

How about some rails on water- vinage railroad carfloats

For a little more offbeat- these were taken that same trip in Freedomland- a short- lived amusement park in the Bronx of all places.

In Freedomland was a building that looks a little familiar- I found the prototype for a Tyco/ AHM etc building.

Jim

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:26 PM

Great pictures, Jim - thanks for sharing them with us!

Here are some rare old photos of the Freedomland USA theme park, which closed after only 4 years.

https://untappedcities.com/2018/03/05/rare-color-photos-of-freedomland-nycs-grandiose-lost-amusement-park/

 

Happy times!

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Posted by drgwcs on Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:38 PM

Tinplate Toddler

Great pictures, Jim - thanks for sharing them with us!

Here are some rare old photos of the Freedomland USA theme park, which closed after only 4 years.

https://untappedcities.com/2018/03/05/rare-color-photos-of-freedomland-nycs-grandiose-lost-amusement-park/

 

 

That is cool- I found that video a while back when I first scanned my fathers slides and saw those. He actually has quite a bit more of Freedomland that he took. My dad was a prolific photographer- I have over 22,000 that I have digitized and have about another 5000 to go- if I can ever find the slide scanner since we moved. He has early Disneyland too and so much more including most of the national parks in the US.  Jim

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:50 PM

Tinplate Toddler
The total cost of this "event" was something like $10,000, which bought the Miniatur Wunderland people prime time coverage in the TV news all over Germany, if not Europe, plus an entry into the Guiness Book of World Records. This kind of money usually is not enough to buy you a half page ad in a magazine. Not so stupid!

Not stupid at all!! What a great way to advertize! Relatively inexpensive and very interesting!

Our club made a significant effort to get our annual February Show and Sale into the media and it really paid off. In addition to being covered by all the local news services before the show we managed to get the major local TV station to put us on their Saturday 6:00 pm news. We had almost as many people attend on the Sunday as we did on Saturday. Normally Sunday's attendance is much lower.

Dave

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 3, 2019 9:02 PM

Mister Mikado
Ed, on the left side of the Hudson on Hudson photo, is that another rail line coming off the river and running under the main line?

Hi, Mr. Mikado

There seems to be something like a dike or a water intake crib of some sort there. I'm not aware of any dams across the Hudson. I found the remains of a similar structure at Cheviot, NY which could actually be the site of the photo from eighty-one years earlier.

 Cheviot-NY by Edmund, on Flickr

The fuzzy looking stuff is algae in the water. Perhaps it was a form of erosion control? You're right, though. It does seem to pass under the right-of-way and continue on the clearing to the right.

I have studied some stretches of this line near Hyde Park quite extensively. There was a short siding installed for FDR's exclusive use. The family disembarked the funeral train there on April 15, 1945 and rode cars up the hill to the big house. Today I can not find any evidence of where this siding was, exactly.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, March 3, 2019 10:27 PM

Howdy, everybody .. 

We just returned home from Nashville, TN. .... As expected, inbound lanes of I-24 are still closed because of last week's major mudslide. When we drove back on the poutbound side, we could see a lot of construction equipemnts being used with many floodlights .. Looks like they have a lot of work remaining. 

MARTIN STATION

Hey Gerry,

   I also went to the train show in Evansville, IN. Looked to me like they had a really good turn out, lots of people there. After that me and the wife headed south of Henderson, KY to the Farmer and Frenchman for lunch. We crossed those same twin bridges you did and you're right, the flooding was really bad, some of the worst I have seen in awhile.

 

 

Martin ..... Thanks for commenting, and it is good of you to visit the Diner. .. Feel free to post here again. .... I know of people who live near Henderson. They say deer who normally are in their habitat near the river have moced inland. The abundance of deer is a problem. .... We live in the Land Between the Lakes area of Western KY. Where are you from ? 

Everybody else..... Hopefully I can catch up tomorrow. 

Cheers. 

GARRY

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Posted by GeePee35 on Monday, March 4, 2019 6:10 AM

Good Morning! {Or as Ulrich might say: Guten Morgen}

Hope this finds all of you well, oops I see one of is sick and in bed.

 

The following is not pointing any fingers and may be offensive to some,it is NOT meant to be {as you'll see i'm in there too}but I'd like an opinion {you may have already seen it}:

I saw an article about a man who booked a flight. This NOT hypothetical, it really happened. He booked An aisle seat on the 2 seater row for a 5 hour flight across country. The man who took the window seat was er, um, no delicate way to put it, but F A T. He was wide as well {#2}, and took up 1/3 the first man's {#1} seat. #1 called it to the attention of the stewardess, who checked and they had no seats available for the fat man to have 2 seats together, they were sold out. SO #1 says to the #2 "if you compensate me $150 {half my ticket}, I'll make do with your body overage into my seat". Man #2 gladly pays it as he could not take a later flight where he could have two seats together, which is what the airline wanted him to do...

The story went viral, and many called #1 a word I cannot print here due to forum rules, but starts with an "a". A Major one, not just one. I am sure many who called him that are also w i d e.

Now I am sure someof us on here are wider than others, amd some of us were heavy, but, like me, have lost{I lost 80 pounds} and may face the same situation. Now I"m still overweight, but I never was W I D E, I was all up front "ball belly", and could get the seat belt buckled under my flab. SO what do you all think? was the guy a jerk? WOULD YOU want  a F A T person encroaching on yourself in a plane? {regardless of how wide you are?} I realize the seats are only 18" wide,and they want to make them/or are now only 16" wide {and they definitely have NO plans to W i d e n the seats} , but that is a little unrealistic.  SO what would YOU do in such a situation? I'm inclined to agree with the squeezed out man...if you cannot sit in the seat without "spillover", then you need two seats and should pay for them both, or at least 1/2 the fare of that seat, but the plane companies will never go for that, they want full fare for the seat.

I've HAD to sit next to a f a t person before who spilled over into my seat, was very uncomfortable and at the time, and she smelled to boot, thnak goodness it was only a 3 hour flight I weighed a whole 140 pounds,had a 29" waist.

I also have, as a heavy guy{who was all belly} had the "luxury" of a w i d e person sit next to me, who had spillover into my seat, so the armrest could not be put down.

So do you think #1 was a jerk? DO you think #2 should have been made to take teh later flight anyway with two seats paid for? Do you think it was just fair for #2 to compensate #1?

 

On another note, snow today, gone sunday Maybe, heat wave of 40f!!, really cold in between. Not as cold as other territoriesa, and I see CNCHARLIE has enlightened us to the temps up there in the fair nrthern territories of the continent.

On another note...spring is coming and have you ordered your seeds or plants yet? I'm thinking about it. my Other half {OH} and I argue over what we should order. I WIll surprise my OH with a few rose bushes for my OH s birthday, which is mid April, they wont arrive until end of April or MAy, though.

 

Ok, I will get going.....have an interview to go to. Probably won't get it. You watch. No one wants to hire the guy with a cane in hand.

HAve a great day, and special thoughts and prayers to everyone

 

GeePee35, formerly known as Galaxy

 

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, March 4, 2019 7:12 AM

Good Afternoon!

I took a nap since I didn´t sleep much last night. Something is keeping me awake lately and it is not only my aching back!

GP35 - I can relate to that situation. I am no midget either, but I remember a flight I got stuck in a middle seat between to "elephants". Both also apparently didn´t know how to use a shower, just to make things worse! That flight was no fun!

I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!

Have a good one!

Happy times!

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, March 4, 2019 7:48 AM

Good Monday Morning —

I hope this finds everyone well. I also hope no one here was directly affected by the tornados and nasty weather that affected areas of Alabama and Georgia. 

I had mentioned the Gulf Curve wreck in an earlier reply. I've always been interested in studying disasters such as this. Similar to three recent accidents where overspeed was the cause — the 2017 Amtrak Cascades wreck in Tacoma, Washington and the 2015 Frankford Curve wreck near Philadelphia, and the   2013 Metro North Spuyten Duyvil curve accident. Memorable, too, was the 1947 wreck of the PRR's Red Arrow on Bennington curve, also caused by entering the curve at too great a speed for the conditions. These are what I would describe as "head-scratchers" since, presumably trained and seasoned railroaders had been operating trains for years and certainly should have reduced the speed as necessary for that degree of curvature. Little Falls, New York is 73.49 miles west of Albany.


 

ACCIDENT OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD


LITTLE FALLS, N. Y.


APRIL 19, 1940

 

INVESTIGATION NO. 2423 SUMMARY:


Railroad: New York Central
Date: April 19, 1940
Location: Little Falls, N. Y.
Kind of accident: Derailment
Train involved: Passenger
Train number: 19
Engine number: 5315
Consist: 15 cars
Speed: 59 m.p.h.
Operation: Automatic block-signal and automatic train-stop system
Track: Four; 7 degree 24’curve; ascending grade westward
Time: 11:33 p.m.
Weather: Cloudy
Casualties: 31 killed; 51 injured
Cause: Excessive speed on sharp curve combined with a run-in of slack resulting from throttle being closed suddenly.


 

 Valley2_1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Another head-scratcher was the fact that the Road Foreman was riding in the cab that night. Did he distract the engineer? He was the only survivor of any of the head-end employees.

 

If anyone is interested I can add more photos and information. Please chime in if you have an interest.

The New York central, in a huge undertaking, realigned the main line here some years later and reduced the cruvature of the track.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, March 4, 2019 9:56 AM

Tinplate Toddler
. . .I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!. . .

Does this mean you have a prospective buyer? Good luck!

Richard

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Monday, March 4, 2019 10:08 AM

RideOnRoad
Tinplate Toddler
. . .I am getting ready to sell my layout - I hope I get a fair amount for it!. . .

 Does this mean you have a prospective buyer? Good luck!

 

I wish I had, but not yet! I have advertised it in a tinplate train forum. It usually takes quite some time to sell a layout.

Happy times!

Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:16 AM

ROARING

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:17 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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