The not-so-serious stuff was funny JaBear. I do have a rubber mallet, I will keep it in the refrigerator now for a reminder to myself... a man's gotta know his limitations. I'm just glad I don't have as big of a problem with that rule as I did in my younger years.
Now it's off to Prior Lake. The right master cylinder and brake switch came in. Grease Monkey Time.
Have a great day y'all.
Actually the Metropolis Bridge was built by the CB&Q but ownership transfered to the P&I after completion. The P&I (Paducah and IL) was jointly owned by CB&Q and NC&STL and IC ( IC bought interest in 1925)
CN (IC) and BNSF(CB&Q) still own the P&I and maintain the bridge. BNSF maintains the bridge and The CN maintains the whole P&I trackage from the bridge into Paducah ( 15+ miles)The Paducah and Lousiville has a small interest in the P&I but has no trackage rights across the bridge.
The Metropolis bridge has the longest through truss span in the world.
I have some contruction pictures of Metrolpolis bridge from railway age but they are at work.
The bridge and P&I was originally supposed to be double tracked but never was. You can see evidence of the double track infrasturcture along the P&I in Paducah especially at the Jefferson street and Broadway viaducts.
Here is a drone video of the bridge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W470pnTFaIU
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Good morning, everybody .
Steven NWP SWP .... The sky photo is beautuful.
MLC .... Your photos of the Cairo bridge are interesting. Long ago, I crossed over the bridge riding on the Illinois Central. .... The old IC Paducah Shop buildings are interesting, too. Those shops originally built, rebuilt, and maintained steam locomotives. Later, the IC rebuilt and maintained diesel locomtoves there. That is where IC remanufactured its fleet of GP7's and GP9's into low-nose GP10's. ... Evenutally, the IC downsized and the shops were sold to VMV Corporation which remanufactured locomotives. Later, the shops were sold to NRE which rebuilds locomotices in Illinois. As you said, the Paducah shops are now closed.
South of Paducah is Mayfield, KY where Progress Rail rebuilds locomotives. Caterpillar acquired Progress Rail as well as EMD, and Cat is probably too much competition for NRE.
Ed .... Thanks for posting the High Bridge Photo.
Here is an interesting video about High Bridge. ... It includes NS trains running over it. The second one has UP power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcsDAJp1R4U
Speaking of bridges, there are several large railroad bridges over the Ohio River, and they connect KY with OH, IN, and IL. ... The bridge from Metropolis, IL to Paducah, KY was built and owned by CB&Q. Now, it is owned by BNSF.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
NWP SWPBear, what was wrong with the RIP track? I copied it directly from Ulrichs version.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Track fiddlerBridges have always fascinated me. I have never been to Tennessee. I never knew they had long Bridges. Apparently they do.
A couple in Kentucky, too.
You got rivers, you got to have bridges.
Kentucky_River_Highbridge by Edmund, on Flickr
1907, Detroit Publishing Co. Library Of Congress.
Lots to see here! Click to make bigger. I recall seeing a photo taken near those big stone archways. When I **find it I'll post it.
** Found it.
Kentucky_River_Highbridge2 by Edmund, on Flickr
Lots of neat details here, too! I imagine the stone towers were used as anchorages to suspend cables from to aid in the construction of the bridge?
Anyone else agree that the siding on the left could benefit from having a bumper there? Don't kick cars in there too fast.
Steven, since it has been established that we ARE in Kentucky and Tennessee how about editing the Diner thread title to read as such since the Apalachian area, as I pointed out earlier, sure covers a whole lot of territory.
Thanks, Ed
Here's a picture I took earlier this evening, I laid a filter over it to bring out the blues and reds. And top of page drinks are on me!
Steve
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!
Good evening Diners,
Brunhilda, I'll have an Earl Grey tea with cream and honey, please.
I haven't been in for awhile. I'll see if I can do better.
MLC: Those bridge pictures are fascinating. I would love to see the whole process of how it's done. Thanks for sharing.
Starting the Diner: While I dont really care who starts it, it would be courteous to agree on who will start and stick to the plan. Ulrich and Steven both do a very good job of opening the diner, but it would also be nice if other people could start it on occasion. My 2cents.
Growing up, summer lasted past Labor Day almost to the First Day of Autumn, but up here in Chicago, Labor Day is a definite demarcation of summer ending. Kinda weird really. Oh, the 70s daytime temps will linger for a bit, but the nights are already cooler. Ugh!
Hello to everyone, and I hope everyone is OK and safe.
Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)
moelarrycurly4 More of your West KY tour. a couple more Bridge pictures They would build a span and replace one at time, They took the bridge out of service for less than 24 hours at a time.
More of your West KY tour.
a couple more Bridge pictures
They would build a span and replace one at time, They took the bridge out of service for less than 24 hours at a time.
Bridges have always fascinated me. I have never been to Tennessee. I never knew they had long Bridges. Apparently they do.
I am a bit like Ulrich said. I do not have much to contribute here. I'm just glad we're honoring Johnny
Evening diners.
Johnny Cash had lots of songs featuring trains. So, it's fitting that his works get included every now and then in the diner, and the reason we are located in KY & TN this month.
Now, seeing as the diner gets opened at midnight (or close to it), and that Memphis is located in Tennessee......
Here's a (more current) song, featuring a Midnight Train to Memphis..... I think Johnny would have liked it.
Enjoy!
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
Ulrich, if you want I can request that my church put in a good word with the Man upstairs for you, again if it's OK with you.
In 1937 the Ohio River Valley was hit with a massive flood Western KY was not spared either.
These two shots I beleive were close to Wickliffe ky on either the Mud line to Paducah or the line to Bardwell
Shot of the IC shops in Paducah 1937 flood. The shops are still here, the roundhouse has long been torn down. Currently they are empty as NRE has shutdown operations here. The Ohio river is at the very top of the picture.
NWP SWP Here's what I got done.
Here's what I got done.
Nice ! Once again you remind me of Jeff , the Diner’s namesake, who did a lot of kit bashing to make freelanced locomotives.
I remember that old tune. I haven't heard it in years.
Afternoon Diners
Flo, the gang and I will have Are Corn From A Jar and give Ulrich, Rick and Steven the young pup what they want.
Found a hack to keep A/C dripping on the layout. Rememered seeing a grider bridge that was kit bashed from wood for $11.95. Reason it was so cheap? No rail planking. That was perfect for my use! Found a small but long plactic contanier that is as long as the A/C unit. It is sitting on top of the grider bridge catching the drippings. Trains are running great tonight and it is cool in the garage!
With us being in Tenniess how about this song?
Love that song!
Later, Ken
I hate Rust
Yes you're right. Not much to be riled about. The diner is in Tennessee and Kentucky to honor Johnny Cash... It's all good.
And you know... Steven is a pretty good kid. He worked hard to get a nice truck he's proud of. He's involved with the Railroad Club. It does seem he has a good head on his shoulders and making good choices in life
This old dogs done barking.
Good Evening, Folks —
Track fiddlerEvery member on the Forum knew Ulrich's intent to open the diner.
Somehow I missed that memo...
Tinplate Toddler I wouldn´t be able to contribute much to that venue, but I am sure other fellow diners will be able to fill the gap.
Here's an old postcard from "Appalachia"
conneaut depot by Edmund, on Flickr
Conneaut, Ohio — and Erie, Pennsylvania — is in Appalachia.
The Appalachian Region, as defined by Congress, includes all of West Virginia and portions of 12 other states: Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. ARC serves 420 counties that encompass roughly 205,000 square miles, with a population of more than 25 million people.
Thank you, Ed
Atchee Sometimes it's not too hard to figure out why people just quit showing up here. Seriously, does everything here have to turn into a bone of contention? Steven has taken criticism for a number of things here nobody here had any business giving him a hard time about (like age, jumping in too fast as a newbee). What's next - Issues because he "pays" for the adult beverage for some folks in the diner? Geeeeees.
Sometimes it's not too hard to figure out why people just quit showing up here. Seriously, does everything here have to turn into a bone of contention?
Steven has taken criticism for a number of things here nobody here had any business giving him a hard time about (like age, jumping in too fast as a newbee). What's next - Issues because he "pays" for the adult beverage for some folks in the diner? Geeeeees.
Atchee .... We don't criticize Steven's age..... We encourage when he is building models. ...
Track Fiddler .... You have valid points. .... We talked about Nashville in September to honor Johnny Cash.... It was already agreed to do TN and KY.
RideOnRoad NWP SWP . . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . . I am a little confused about the "problem." If Ulrich is 4-7 hours ahead of us and he opens the diner at his leisure, the diner is open before any of us are rubing the sleep out of our eyes. Where's the problem?
NWP SWP . . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . .
I am a little confused about the "problem." If Ulrich is 4-7 hours ahead of us and he opens the diner at his leisure, the diner is open before any of us are rubing the sleep out of our eyes. Where's the problem?
I'll just have to bark on this subject once more, then I need to let it go.
I agree with Richard. Time zones have nothing to do with it. It's the time on the Forum here that's prevalent. Midnight here is midnight here.
Here's the whole thing that irritates me. Ulrich was talking about where everyone wanted the Diner this month and was talking about the Great Lakes area for an idea. I brought up Johnny Cash and Nashville as we all talked about a month-and-a-half ago.... Every member on the Forum knew Ulrich's intent to open the diner.
What it all boils down to is just basic common courtesy. Respect fits as well. Respect for your elders is not a new concept. It fascinates me how many times you see these two common mannerisms disregarded these days.
Afternoon folks!
Just wrapped up turning two of the P42s Ed gave me into one P42CBU, or Cabless Booster Unit, I used the Dummy unit and one of the powered ones.
I'll post some pics in a while.
Heartland Division CB&QWe should be talking about all of TN and KY as was discssed previoisly.
Southern Railway's No.3, The Royal Palm pauses in Danville, Kentucky, for some head-end work:
SOU_3_4-11-63 by Edmund, on Flickr
Southern Ry. Business car #9 on the holding track.
Here's to all the railroad laborers who have worked to give us this splendid hobby on this Labor Day.
Cheers, Ed
Good afternoon
My head hurts. Holy cow did I get ripped last night. My work partner told me to try that Surly Furious. I think that beer is 7% on the Richter scale.
So much for the cooler weather we had in the beginning of the week. It got up to 90 today and I had to work in the sun. I sweated bullets I'll tell you. My partner was laughing at me dragging my butt for about an hour this morning. He is younger than I and snaps back from a Friday or Saturday night quicker than I do.
SIx hours of direct sun was all I could take. My head is pounding like a rock concert. My sun fatigue is making this morning's little hangover look like a toy.
I'm not so sure about the IPA's JaBear. They are mighty tasty but they do pack a wallop. I don't suppose you're supposed to have 10 of them though
Good afternoon. Another warm sunny day in paradise here on the West Coast.
Got the kid off to Ottawa this morning with well over a 100lbs of luggage. He has about an hour to go and will be back with his friends from last year.
Moelarrycurly, those are great bridge pic's, thanks for posting. Garry, If I ever get near Nashville I'll be sure to give you a shout. I have been to more States than I haven't been to, that region is about all that is left to see. Flying over doesn't count. We have the usual big Saturday night crowd in for dinner tonight. I am kinda tired so I may grab a snooze which is something I rarely do. Usually when I have gotten off my exercise routine is when I get tired during the day, but this time it was just a lousy sleep last night. Watched parts of the John McCain service. I always liked that guy as he seemed to be such a decent guy. I read something a long time ago that if you want to really know what kind of politicians you have working for you. Get the views of those from around the world, not at home. They see the person from a different perspective. When I have applied that to Canadian politicians I find they get a pretty fair shake, good or bad. It will be a deadbeat day for me today, so I better get on with doing nothing. All the best to all.
Moelarrycurly, those are great bridge pic's, thanks for posting.
Garry, If I ever get near Nashville I'll be sure to give you a shout. I have been to more States than I haven't been to, that region is about all that is left to see. Flying over doesn't count.
We have the usual big Saturday night crowd in for dinner tonight. I am kinda tired so I may grab a snooze which is something I rarely do. Usually when I have gotten off my exercise routine is when I get tired during the day, but this time it was just a lousy sleep last night.
Watched parts of the John McCain service. I always liked that guy as he seemed to be such a decent guy. I read something a long time ago that if you want to really know what kind of politicians you have working for you. Get the views of those from around the world, not at home. They see the person from a different perspective. When I have applied that to Canadian politicians I find they get a pretty fair shake, good or bad.
It will be a deadbeat day for me today, so I better get on with doing nothing.
All the best to all.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Well.... Deep subject! Howdy Doody Folks.... I see we got's done moved into Ken-tucky and Tenny-See for the month.... At least wez all friends in here. And sometimes findin' friends ain't that easy for us railroady types.
Frankly, I was hoping we might to get to visit a few old Caboose towns while we was here. They done had one of them near Waverly, NY which was just at the Northern end of Appalacia back when I were teachin' there.... Until the county and a town decided to fix that problem and done went in and bulldozed all them cabooses down (they gave the indigents living there 24 hours to vacate though). That helped a lot except them folks just started campin' out on roadsides near larger towns making the "Well to Do" folks real mad!
I did teach many, many kids who lived a half mile walk away from the nearest road and lived in old junk trailers with no electricity, running water, or central heat. They had a good meal whenever dad or Uncle Sid was successful finding some animal to shoot for supper...... Remember the Art Garfuncle Song about Mary ("but she shone like a gem, in a five and dime store")? I taught that kid. Like most of them they were wonderful, sweet kids that had no chance.
I was thinking this morning about one kid in particular who didn't dare talk to a teacher until she was at the end of 5th. grade. I was the first adult outside her family she ever talked to! Fear can be a powerful thing. The next year she even got brave and joined chorus.... Turned out she had a beautiful little voice!
Enough of that stuff!
Anyway, I do think we all need to be a bit more gentle to some of the young guys on here as we sometimes get into situations ourselves...
Hope all of you have a good day, and enjoy wherever it is we ended up!!! Just remember:
73 my friends!
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
NWP SWP. . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . .
Richard
Here are some more pictures from our western Ky tour
In the 1950's the IC decided to replace the Wickliffe KY to Cairo IL bridge that had been built in 1889.
Here is a sequence on replacing one span.
Garry: yes we still need to get together.