Evening Diners
Flo, Ed, Steve and I will have a .
Steven OtteI was off for a few days. Now that I'm back and have removed the political posts Angry, ask away.
Steve If it was my post where I used the word the election word I am sorry. I thought it was a inacent remark but maybe I was wrong.
Day off I felt so so. Did some earliy morning running and got home at 10:20 AM. Tried to take a nap but that was a no go. Got the kitchen sink unclogged (full of wifes hair and it was nasty) and that was the main goal for the day!
More running, went to the bank, dumped the trash, got Sparkie The Rocket Dog Ear Infection Med, bought some food and bought 3 soft shell taco's for the wife.
Railroad Front Got my PK1000 C&O RS2 cleared from the RIP track! Great little engine. All so got a C&O caboose and track cleaning car on the rails. Working the Bessemer SD 7 a little harder pulling 15 cars. Think I may install a Digitrax DH 166 in her?
Well, Chile is done, time to cook the Beef Buritos and the refried beans! Yep, don't want to sit with me Thursday!
Ken
I hate Rust
Good Evening,
It is currently a balmy 37F here and that was the high today. It is accompanied by a strong NW wind too.
YGW, you asked about construction here in the winter. Yes it is done 12 months of the year, houses too. They wrap the framed house in plastic and then work on it from the inside. Heaters are used sometimes. Mostly the trades people just dress warmly. Dressing for the weather makes all the difference. I have an old down filled parka and I can stand outside at -40 and not feel any cold. Mind you it was made here by people who understood cold. Sadly most of our coats are now made offshore and they aren't very warm.
Well time to heat up the leftover Chinese food we had last night. As usual we ordered way too much so will be eating it for several days. I don't mind as it is very good.
I did make it to the gym today and walked 2 miles. It is the first time I have been there for a while but must get back into the routine.
CN Charlie
yougottawanta Steve - welcome back. Could you look at my post on power needs for Hobby room and give me your 2 cents worth of thought it would be appreciated.
Steve - welcome back. Could you look at my post on power needs for Hobby room and give me your 2 cents worth of thought it would be appreciated.
Thanks for the WB. I looked at the other thread, and it looks like you've got a lot of knowledgable people answering you already. I have nothing to add.
--Steven Otte, Model Railroader senior associate editorsotte@kalmbach.com
yougottawantaHowmus How do you apply for your certs ?????? Do you submit at any NMRA Meet or at the conventions ?
Sorry.... I was going to answer you yesterday and didn't remember when I posted..... You can find a wealth of information here: http://www.nmra.org/education/achievement-program
Simple answer is that "Merit Awards" for models can be done several ways. You can take the model to a Division Meet, Regional Convention, or to the National Convention and get it "Judged" for the program, or have it evaluated at your home or club by the local AP chair and his assistants. In either case you have to earn 87.5 points (out of 125) to have a model qualify for the merit award. Each of the Certificates may require several Merit Awards to complete. There is considerable paperwork which is turned into the Division AP Chair who forwards to the Region AP Manager. It is checked and verified there and then forwarded to the National AP Chairman who reviews the documents and verifies that the Requirements for the Certificate have been properly completed. Then they send you a nice piece of paper that says "Ya Did Good!" Once you have earned 7 Certificates with at least one in each of the four areas (Model Railroad Equipment, Settings, Engineering and Operations, and Service to the Hobby), you fill out some more forms, get them checked by all that need to do that, and you will earn Master Model Railroader. I can guaruntee that you will have learned a great deal about the hobby and railroading through this process. As I said, I have two more certificates to go before I can apply for MMR. It's a goal I hope I will reach some day! Oh, and yes, you have to be an NMRA member to work the program....
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Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
LUNCH TIME !
Howmus How do you apply for your certs ?????? Do you submit at any NMRA Meet or at the conventions ? Congrats on your special grandchildren. I guess the apple doesnt fall to far from the tree does it
Garry - tHHOANSSKKDDAHMMMHHH ---THANKS !!!!!! Sorry mouth full or cinnamon rolls I LOVE anything with brown sugar and cinnamon !!!!
Ken - How much wire do you need ? Send me a PM with your address and I will mail you a bunch when I get my AV guy out here the next time. We have it by the box full. Hope YBH is okay. Will be praying for you all.
Ken - So true - snow = no mowing BUT - snow = shoveling
V8 - Winter at 78 degrees ??? Heck that is summer or early fall here No wonder California filled up so fast !
Richard - You are lucky to have a saint for a DIL !
YGW
"There are always alternatives, Captain" - Spock.
Steven Otte Heartland Division CB&Q Steven .... I have not seen you post in a few days. Are you on vacation? We'll follow the rules regardless. Actually, I have a question for you but will wait. I was off for a few days. Now that I'm back and have removed the political posts , ask away.
Heartland Division CB&Q Steven .... I have not seen you post in a few days. Are you on vacation? We'll follow the rules regardless. Actually, I have a question for you but will wait.
Steven .... I have not seen you post in a few days. Are you on vacation? We'll follow the rules regardless. Actually, I have a question for you but will wait.
I was off for a few days. Now that I'm back and have removed the political posts , ask away.
Steven .... I'm glad you are back... I hope your time off was enjoyable.... I did not notice what you are talking about, and that is okay with me. Actually I have a question about photos in MR. .... I'll send a PM.
Have a cinnamon roll on me.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Steven Otte I'm back and have removed the political posts Angry
Political Posts! ???
We have political posts on the route of the BroadwayLION. It is a big political rhubarb everytime we put in another post to hold up a fence or a mile marker. You want to stay away from those NIMBYS.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Good morning, everybody.
I brought cinnamon rolls. Chow down.
Flo, I will have a please, let Ed have one on my tab as well.
Well the letter between F and H stopped workin- on the keyboard!
Work Front Should have taken a en-ine to work today. Had one custmer all day and she stayed a whole 2 minutes? Yep, I was busy!
YGW (G just became un-stuck) I would not mind snow 12 months a year. I don't mind driving in it, it is pretty and the biggest reason? The Dang Grass Does Not Grow! Far as the bigger hammer thing, been there and done that with cars!
GP 7 Front This time around I am looking at the problem a little drifferently. I have been trying to places the LED's in the locations where the light bulbs where. I think this is the same chassis they used on the Short Hood GP-30's. Well, the GP 7 is a long hood engine and there is no reason to try to cram them in the same spot!
Ed The Penn SD 7 has a rice bulbs, the Bessemer has what looks like the stock PK bulbs. So what is dropping the voltage? Thinking about teaming up the Bessemer SD 7 with a Rio Grand SD 9. That way I can haul some real freight!
I will add, the B&O F7's are running great! If it is Wednesday I will make the time for some phots.
Later, Ken
Evenin' Folks!
Janie, I could use a cup of decaf coffee, please.... I'll go sit in the back booth for a while.
Been busy all day trying to get caught up with the NMRA Meet stuff and start on the newsletter that needs to go out very, very soon. Sun was out most of the day, but the temp never got above 65°F. Quite normal for October around here. Tonight it will go down to about 45°F. Went right from Air Conditioner to Furnace this year.....
Talked to me son last night and today. Oldest Granddaughter won a local (Waterloo) Fireman's Art Contest for her age group. So this morning after all the busses had pulled in to unload at her Elementary School a Firetruck showed up with all it's lights flashing. They were bringing my Granddaughter to School!!! She got to get off and walk into school in front of all the other kids escourted by a fireman in dress uniform..... I guess she had a great time and was "Hero for the day!" The younger Granddaughter also found out today that she was picked as one of 20 Second Graders (out of a couple hundred) that will singing a song for the Superintendent of Schools at some big shindig in the Middle School Auditorium next Monday, so she had an exciting day too. I am planning on attending that!
Train front.... I'm checking out plans and specs for the bridge. This will be the largest scratchbuild project I have attempted. Glad I have made a couple smaller bridges as practice for some of what this one will embrace. Before attempting this, I plan to finish most all of the town on the new area. I will also be building a frieght house in HO based on drawings of the Freight House in Naples, NY. That was an end of the line location for the Lehigh Valley back in the day. Need to also find plans for a small Passenger Station to be there as well. Did some odds and ends tonight on the area tonight.
Hope you all have a great night. Prayers for all in need!
Back from four days in Idaho visiting the grandkids. My son has 6 kids and the oldest is 8. (Yup, you read that right, and it includes a pair of two-year-old twins.) They are some of the best behaved kids I have seen. They almost always do their chores without having to asked twice, and they have a number of chores. They have chickens and rabbits that need to be tended to every day. My son is a good kid, but his wife is a saint. I left Mrs. ROR up in Idaho to help out for a week. My son is in the MBA program at Utah State and is gone four days a week. (Remember, his wife is a saint.)
My time at home is short-lived. I got back last night about 6:30 and am headed to the airport to go to Dallas for work in about an hour. Wahoo. Needless to say nothing on the train front at the moment.
Richard
Johnboy - Well I am honored that I am your 2000 post ! I still dont get it though. -53 degrees ??? That is insane cold ! Heck I might be faced with a tornado once every five years and hurricane about the same. None of which in my area are usually strong enough to relocate me into the next zip code. Maybe blow some siding and shingles off but that is about it here, BUT the cold up north is what 6 months long and everyday. brrrrrr makes me shiver thinking about it ! Plus I like snow for a few days and then I ready for it to go away.
Garry - Wow I am so glad you joined me ! Some great company ! I tell you I wish you lived closer, from your photos I could learn a thing or two from you. Great looking work ! WOW !
Andel - OH I get it now. Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake.
Welp the ole phone is ringing - again ! Gotta run
TTYL
Hi gang,
Chloe, my usual lunch please, A double Denver, homefries and bring the blender so I can thin it down, and a Dr. P. to chase.
YGW. When I saw your question to CN. Charlie, I couldn't help but answer.
One evening before Christmas, many years ago, I was about 100 miles east of the City and having a real difficult time in keeping any heat in the bus. I was doing everything I could including putting cardboard in between the shutters and the rads and covering the outside of the shutters as well and it just wasn't helping much at all. I thought I would walk over to the thermometer on the service station wall and see just how cold it was. Now it was facing the wind, so wind chill wise it read -53 F. Thats enought to freeze the - - -s off a brass monkey, as the old saying goes. Do we like it ? NO. But we take it because we feel it's better than getting home and finding your house has eloped with one of those hurricanes or Tornados.. We do get tornados here, but not as often and most likely not as violent as south of the 49th.\
Enjoying the modelling being shown on a number of the threads right now. You guys are amazing, and I consider you my mentors even though some of you are young enough to be my Grandkids.
Must go and shovel some snow, pick up land mines from the dogs and go to get some more makings of land mines for them from the feed store.
Hey, check this out,,,, this is my 2000 post. How about that. But if I live to be 100 i"ll never catch our departed Buddy Jeff.
Garry, I don't think I knew that you had a steel mill on your layout. Looks great blended in with the backdrop.
J.Powell , don't know how or when I missed the fact that you had moved north. Please tell me about that.
Johnboy out...................to be the dogs' servant.
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Ed .... Bill had some of those big bottle cars in the group. They all look scuzzy and grimy. I, too, have purchased books from Bill. Next time you communicate with him, tell him hello from me.
My steel mill is based on the Walthers models.
Heartland Division CB&QSpeaking of steel mills. I saw some great HO models of steel mill cars when I was in Paducah.
Small World, Garry! I just bought some books from Classic Trains & Ferraris! I did see the listing for the steel mill cars. I have plenty of these cars on hand anyway. That's a big chunk of $$! Maybe he should sell them individually.
Here's my "Big Bertha!"
See you folks later...
Ed
Afternoon Diners,
yougottawanta Angel - what ? "praying for the dead from the storm ???
Angel - what ? "praying for the dead from the storm ???
I thought some people who wished for prayers during the category 3-4 hurricane.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
Good morning.
I'll sit in the corner booth with YGW. .... Coffee and a donut please.
Mr. B ... Nice bridge !
Ed ... Speaking of steel mills. I saw some great HO models of steel mill cars when I was in Paducah. There are about 50 cars, and my friend with the LHS in Paducah has them listed on Ebay for over $3,000. ... As impressed as I was, I will not buy them.
Cheers, everybody.
Break time !
To all of our canadian friends Happy Thanksgiving. Curious are your Thanksgiving traditions the same as those here in the states where we (supposdely) give thanks to God for the abundance and blessings bestowed upon us?
GM Pullman - Thats a big drop in cost ! Thanks for sharing the info.
Ken - You have to use a BIGGER hammer ! Most things will fit with more persuasion ! Maybe not in the same state they started in That is a neat picture you shared. I love the perspective.
FRRYKid - LOL "So do I "
Mr. B. Nice work ! How many hours from start to install did that bridge take ?
CN Charlie - True but we dont have that many hurricanes here in Va. But you have a LOT more cold than we have hurricanes. I do you deal with the cold when it is God awful minus zero temps ? Do you work outside in that ?
Herrinchoker - Oh Thanks !
Henry - No I have not heard of that but I bet it would be fascinating ! In the marine musuem that had a real Sherman tank in there, a Corsair, dauntless dive bomber and several other prop planes hanging from the ceiling. First it bogles my mind the structeral requirments to hold these in the air and then how in the world did they get them in and THEN LIFT them up !
Howmus - When you submit for the for your project or paprerwork for review when do you do that ? At the meets once every three months ?
Hi, Diners
Just popping in for a quick nightcap and to answer Ken's question.
I'm pretty sure I wrote down the decoder on a slip of paper sent with the engines, Ken. It was probably a Digitrax DH-123. Many of my early installs I used 16V. grain of wheat lamps. The original L-Ls were something like 5 volts. No resistor was needed for 16 volt bulbs but they do get HOT. There were very few white LED available then and they were somewhere around $3. ea.
By now there has been some explanation of the Bessemer Process. It is what brought about high volume, consistent quality and low cost steel. Before Bessemer steel production was in small batches and sometimes even hand mixed by "puddlers". In England steel prices dropped from £40 to around £6 per long ton.
(Gee— I wonder what committee decided to place the nice, red, car park sign right there!)
The Basic Oxygen Furnace replaced the Bessemer process in the late 1940s.
Best wishes to all!
Regards, Ed
Evening Dinners
Flo, I will have a and if Ed makes it in give him one as well in a Frosted Bessemer mug.
Work Front Was sort of busy with 8 customers in the first 5 hours. Most people bought but again it was Nickel and Dime stuff. But it was way better than the last few days with $1785.00 in sales.
Take A Engine To Work Day. Took the PK 2000 GP7 I bought say 5 months ago. Had to hard wire it and cannot get the shell on! Tin Can gave me a extra GP7 chassis and that is the one I screwed up hard wiring. Dang LED leads are what causing the fittment problems. Then I went Brain Dead! Used the other chassis and used the stock DDC coversion shocket and the shell went on! Got it home and programed the decoder and gave her a run!
Poof went the head light! Reason I went Brain Dead? Well Ed SD7's he sent me have light bulbs and are DCC engines, so I forgot. Ed how did you do that?
Ed I know you know why I missed spelled Bessemer. But any way you spell it, it is a great running engine!
FRRY Belated Sorry I am late.
FRRYKid First (and TTBOMK the only) time ever that a jumbo jet has landed on water and everyone survived.
First (and TTBOMK the only) time ever that a jumbo jet has landed on water and everyone survived.
A remarkable achievement indeed, but minor point, an Airbus A320 is not a jumbo jet. It's not big enough to fit that definition (two or more aisles in the passenger cabin).
BigDaddy MR B I've heard that before. Do all the bits and pieces require individual fitting?
MR B I've heard that before. Do all the bits and pieces require individual fitting?
Yes, the kit has lots of pieces and a lot of them need to be cut to fit. The girders are each made up of 4 flat sides which must be glued together and care must be taken to keep them square. Then, they must be cut to size, using the template provided to get the diagonal cuts right. You'll need a sharp knife and a razor saw.
Since it's a model, the stresses are different. The deck actually carries all the weight and has steel reinforcements inside. The superstructure is purely ornamental. It fits over the deck. I never even glued it in place.
On my layout, the bridge is on a liftoff section which connects two major parts of the layout. I purposely chose a higher-end bridge to catch the viewers' eyes and draw attention away from the fact that it's only a narrow liftoff.
I surrounded the bridge with a lot of scenery to further hide the reality of the liftoff section.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
yougottawanta topped the evening off with going to see "Sully" the movie on the piolt who "landed" his plane on the Hudson. REALLY Good movie. I like most movies with Tom Hanks. FRRYKid - hope you have many many more !
topped the evening off with going to see "Sully" the movie on the piolt who "landed" his plane on the Hudson. REALLY Good movie. I like most movies with Tom Hanks.
FRRYKid - hope you have many many more !
I didn't have the opportunity to see that movie when it was here but I plan to rent it when it comes out on DVD. First (and TTBOMK the only) time ever that a jumbo jet has landed on water and everyone survived.
As to the b-day statement so do I.
Good Afternoon,
Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Canucks! No turkey here today as there is only my wife and I for dinner. She hurt her back a few days ago so we are taking it easy. We will have MIL over for some Chinese dinner tomorrow. I do miss the big spreads MIL used to put on but after my FIL passed away in 2008, she hasn't hosted any large family dinners.
In anticipation of my birthday next month, I ordered a present for myself. It is an Athearn RS3 in CNR green and yellow. I had a CP version of the same loco but sold it along with all my other CP locos. I was surprised to see this loco on Klein's site but it is listed as a warehouse find and is no longer available from Athearn. I also ordered a TCS decoder for it as they have great motor control. I have a MRC sound only diesel decoder I will put into it too. It sounds fine to me and it has the 244 alco sound set.
I heard from my urologist and the surgery date has been set. It is Dec.19th. The delay is fine as I'm on a drug to shrink my prostate first and it takes about 6 months for max effect. It also stops the cancer. My PSA was only .7 in August.
YGW, you do get used to the cold to some degree and 30F isn't very cold in my opinion. At least we don't have to worry about hurricanes.
Mr. Beasley, nice bridge! I built the same one only N scale. Sure were a lot of small parts!
Have a good day,
Injection of oxygen into the molten steel burns off most of the impurities making for a higher quality steel.
herrinchoker
MisterBeasleyThis isn't an easy snap-together kit. I found it quite a challenge and I had a lot of fun putting it together.
Clydesdale Class
YGW pig iron + oxygen = steel. Do you know anything about a tank museum at Ft Lee? There was (maybe still is) an outdoor display of maybe 100 tanks from WW1 on, rusting away. It is supposed to move to Ft Lee, VA and be built around the Krup K5 railway gun. http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=526
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Afternoon folks....
Just taking a break from working on some issues in the new part of the layout for a few minutes.... Will be heading to Rochester shortly to check out the Fire Station where the Fall meet will be held.
YGW, yes on the certificates. I have earned Electrical, Scenery, Civil, Volunteer, and Association Official. About half way through Structures and need to work on either (building) Rolling Stock or Motive Power to qualify for MMR (Master Model Railroader). Probably two to three years from qualifying.
Mister Beasley, very nice work on the bridge, my friend! The one I'm making will have to be scratch built (I intend to use it toward completeing the Structures Certificate) and likely be of a higher load rating. This will have to be an E-60 to E-65 for my heavy locos (2-6-6-2) to be able to use the bridge (and be prototypical..... Important for the Certificate...). The Central Valley looks to be an E-50 load rating at first glance. Hope mine comes out looking as good as yours! That will be a project for the days at home during the winter!
I would certainly promote those of you that are NMRA members to look into and try the AP program. I can tell you I have learned an immense amout of information and skills by working the program. Certainly took my work to a much higher level even if I never get everything done for MMR!