Good morning to YGW and Henry ..... I hope others will join us this morning in the Diner.
YGW ... I Hope you have model railroading time so you can get your mind off of all the stuff happeneing at work.
Henry ... Interesting about C&O 1309 being restored. That would be a big job. ... Also, vehicles fitted with rail wheels for operation on tracks are called Hi-Rails. Most are smaller than dump truck size, however.
I was doing more track maintenance on my layout. Then I was running a locomotive to test it and suddenly a circuit breaker cut the power to the track. It was late last night, and I decided to wait to investigate in the morning. I hope it is just a track nail picked up by the motor magnet. Now, it's morning so I check it out after Hoeny-Do's.
Edit: Go Cubs !
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
BigDaddy Good morning diners. I forgot to mention in Lumberton NC I saw 2 dump trucks fitted with train wheels rebuilding a grade next to a river. Is there a generic name for these rail/road capable trucks? I also subscribed to MRVP and saw that UP is restoring a Big Boy. Drew's Trackside Adventures E 15 or for facebook fans I don't know who owns the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad, but they got a C&O mallet from the B&O museum and are restoring that. I am happy to see that and I wonder how many other Iron Horses are being restored? And how does this work, I know Union Pacific has money and expertise to do it, but how does a scenic railroad have the money to purchase and do a full restoration and where does the expertise come from? They don't teach that in shop class anymore.
Good morning diners. I forgot to mention in Lumberton NC I saw 2 dump trucks fitted with train wheels rebuilding a grade next to a river. Is there a generic name for these rail/road capable trucks?
I also subscribed to MRVP and saw that UP is restoring a Big Boy. Drew's Trackside Adventures E 15 or for facebook fans
I don't know who owns the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad, but they got a C&O mallet from the B&O museum and are restoring that.
I am happy to see that and I wonder how many other Iron Horses are being restored? And how does this work, I know Union Pacific has money and expertise to do it, but how does a scenic railroad have the money to purchase and do a full restoration and where does the expertise come from? They don't teach that in shop class anymore.
Trucks that can go on either the road or rail are called hi-railers.
The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga has a backshop staffed by paid employees and volunteers. The shop's services are available to other steam locomotive owners on a paid basis, and is one source of funding for the TVRM.
I think that much of the expertise comes from OJT given to the volunteers. As I understand it, some go on to become paid employees. As to where other organizations get the funds, I have no idea. Good question, though.
A ride on the Missionary Ridge Local included a tour of the backshop when I rode it. I assume it still does.
http://www.tvrail.com/
CG
Hi railers! I remember that now. They restored a Liberty ship in Baltimore in the late 1980's. Liberty ships were built in Baltimore and there were sailors who served on them that came out to volunteer.
The steam era ended about the same time as the ships but all those guys are 25 years older than when they restored the John Brown. http://www.liberty-ship.com/ Still steam fitting is steam fitting and machining for a railroad is still machining, on a grand scale.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Morning diners,
Henry- Your right not everybody is on Facebook. It was a very interesting video.
My brain kind of quit yesterday figuring out track, structures, rolling stock and arranging them on how it will fit together. I feels like I want to quit also, and go back to my modern era layout. I know it's just a phase in my mind right now, probably because I been to much time, energy and money.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
Evening Diners.
Flo, Ed and I will have a please.
Another Slow Day At Work. It was a moral victory, had 4 customers and 3 bought but sure not going to pay my bills.
Big Daddy Enjoyed the video, any photos of what the engine use to look like?
BBQ is done, I have nothing really to say so later.
Ken
I hate Rust
Its been a busy, but very enjoyable week. Wednesday we did our annual wine run to Seneca Lake in New York. We got to enjoy the fall foilage in what I think were peak colors. Just beautiful. Arrived late in the afternoon, visited a couple of our favorite wineries, and had a nice dinner in Watkins Glen. After dinner, we were both tired from the drive, so we just sat on the deck of the Inn we were staying at and enjoyed the view with a nice bottle of wine. Great weather.
It was raining very hard when we got up Thursday morning. After breakfast we started home. Fortunately the rain stopped after about an hours drive. We did hit a very strong thunderstorm later on, but we were through it in about 20 minutes. So during the drive home we got to enjoy the fall landscape once again. Today was a good one for railfanning. 18 trains in 4 hours. Foreign power of BNSF & Union Pacific. Also 2 of Norfolk Southern's heritage units, the Erie & the Norfolk & Western. Weather certainly changed today however. It was windy & in the low 40s. A few sprinkles of rain from time to time, but not much. No railfanning tomorrow though. The wife has a baby shower to attend. It's some distance away, so that will chew up most of the day. Have a great week & stay safe...
It was raining very hard when we got up Thursday morning. After breakfast we started home. Fortunately the rain stopped after about an hours drive. We did hit a very strong thunderstorm later on, but we were through it in about 20 minutes. So during the drive home we got to enjoy the fall landscape once again.
Today was a good one for railfanning. 18 trains in 4 hours. Foreign power of BNSF & Union Pacific. Also 2 of Norfolk Southern's heritage units, the Erie & the Norfolk & Western. Weather certainly changed today however. It was windy & in the low 40s. A few sprinkles of rain from time to time, but not much. No railfanning tomorrow though. The wife has a baby shower to attend. It's some distance away, so that will chew up most of the day.
Have a great week & stay safe...
Tom
Pittsburgh, PA
tcwright973Wednesday we did our annual wine run to Seneca Lake in New York. We got to enjoy the fall foilage in what I think were peak colors.
WHAT!!!!????!!!!
And you didn't stop up at the other end of Seneca Lake to vist the SLO&W??? O well, one of these years I would like to have you visit the Geneva end of the Lake and I will show you around the area here. I know where that photo was taken... You were looking East across the lake and I know the new pavilion in the photo. was it near Fox Run winery? I was just at Fox Run myself to get something for my son's 47th. Birthday a week ago. (They bottle an excellent group of Riesling!) Don't you just love the Blue of Seneca Lake? Do you know the bottom of the lake is actually below sea level? Over 650 feet deep (some sourses say over 800') and primarily fed by underground springs. 328,000 gallons of water flow into the lake per minute! Here is a shot from one of the Finger Lakes Railway Coaches coming home from the Syracuse Show a few years back. It was taken on a bridge crossing the North End of Cayuga Lake (Looking West), the next Finger Lake to the East and the second largest of the lakes.... It was evening BTW.
Evening folks!
Janie just a decaf please.
I am beat! Long but very successful day today. The Lakeshores Division NMRA held it's Fall meet in Chili, NY just West of Rochester. Had some excellent clinics in the Morning and three fine layouts open for the afternoon tours including the RIT Club layout.
The water form the sveral inches of rain we got in the last few days has stopping ozzing into the cellar of my house and I have the dehumidfier on to help dry it out...
Hope everyone ahs a good one!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Dianne and I drove up to the Bruce Peninsula today to visit some family. We ran into snow! Its only October for Pete's sake!
Last Friday we drove up to Minden in central Ontario and the colours were spectacular!!!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Henry,
Liberty ships were built in several yards, South Portland Shipyard, in South Portland Maine specialized in building Liberty ships. Omar King ran the yard for a time, they were affiliated with Bath Iron Works, in Bath Maine. The yard closed right after the war.
Originally built, the Liberties had a serious design flaw, in cold weather, and heavy seas they had a nasty habit of the hull cracking due to flexing, and then breaking in half.
This was resolved by a heavy plate being welded&rivited, starting flush with the main deck, and carried fore and aft almost the length of the ship. Pictures of the first flight of ships built did not have this charistic, but after two to three runs to Murmansk the losses nearly equaled the loss to German subs. Some wizzo thought--"Oh, external bracing!", solved the problem. You will see photos of some of the Liberties with this plate, some not. I believe that by the end of the war most had the plateing placed on the hull.
I worked at Bath Iorn Works for a time, as a inside machinist, and out on the ways. Out on the ways also included conversions/upgrade to existing Navy ships in the water. At that time we were building the first flight of FFGs (Fast Frigate) that were powered by two 747 jet engines, hooked to a Westinghouse reduction gear, The gear could only utilize 40% of the available thrust. Speed was in excess of 41 mph. It was alleged that it was possible to water ski behind one, to me that just represented fast trolling for sharks off shore. No thanks.!
The older ships still had the 1200 pound/900 deg. superheated steam to drive the turbines. The life of a Navy ship is determined by number of hours on it's boilers, not when it was built. When the Missouri was brought out of mothballs it was considered to be realitively "new" primarily because of the time on her boilers.
From what I have seen there is more simularity than difference between re-building a steam engine vs a marine boiler. Given the tubes on most marine boilers are much thicker, and I would think of a different steel alloy, the prep, tube rolling, and testing are very much alike. One major difference is any marine boiler I worked on had three fuel nozzles per firebox--bucu heat.
Civillian ships, cargo-etc. generally had 600 pound systems.
Steam still has it's place in industry, and there are a supprising number of people who have the ability to work on the systems.
herrinchoker
Have been light on responses the last little while, had to have all the tendons re-bushed and scraped in both hands, (Palms). Had an accident just over fifty years ago, and should have had it done then, but didn't. If anyone should ever wonder what crucifixation feels like there is a proceedure I can recommend. The whole thing has thrown my wo++ schedule off, I have seven cords of wood still needing to be stacked, 24 feet of facia on the roof that needs to be replaced, and just over three square of roofing to do somthing with. I also have a 22 foot fiberglass boat used for lobstering that has had the bottom "oil can" that needs to be re-worked, as well as the center console and the engine that drives the hydraulics for the pot hauler replaced and the mount modified. I also have to cast three dozen five pound lead downrigger weights for bandit fishing offshore this winter for cod and pollock. Don't even want to think about the "Honey-Do" list that has been building.Then there is the matter of two deer to put into the freezer, that is perhaps the least challange, sit in the kitchen and drink coffee until the herd comes out to feed on the clover and chickory, slide the kitchen window open, and don't miss. Just over 30 yards--I use a 1863 .58 cal. Remington Zouave front stuffer.
High wind, NW, temp. is dropping like a rock-down to 46 right now, time to throw more wood into the stove. Later all, prayers to those having tribulation.
Trains??------noooo not yet.
Yay, Cubs !
Tom ... That's a beautiful scene.
Ray ... Same about the sunset photo.
Hey Garry!
"Yay Cubs!"
Remember - no religion on the forums!
Dave ..... LOL
When I was a kid growing up in Chicago suburbs, I went to Cubs and White Sox games. We rode Burlington commuter trains into the city, and the rode the CTA "El" trains to the ballpark.
Go Cubs !
Hello all,
Wishing everyone a good weekend. It's nice in Lancaster PA today.
I got a Tichy Water column built and painted last night. I used Pollyscale Grimy black for the column itself, and Model Master Aged concrete for the base. I'll post pics sometime.
While cleaning the airbrush (a Paasche Talon), I managed to shear off the threaded section of the nozzle and get it stuck in the body of the airbrush. Not good. I'll work on it tonight and see if I can remove the broken part without damaging the airbrush, or maybe send it to Paasche to fix.
A friend and I signed the lease for a place, a 3br, 2bath, apartment back on Friday, so I'll be leaving my parent's home again early December.
Alvie
LION stop in with trays of Sticky Buns. Also have some very light and fluffy donuts. Just what a Sunday Morning kneads.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
Afternoon Folks!
Oooooo, ooooooo, oooooooh! There is one of those sticky buns left that Lion brought in..... Well, I will have that and a hot cup of decaf for lunch please! Thank you Mr. Feline! Him is good cat.....
Been mostly just taking it easy so far today. Little by little putting away all the stuff from the NMRA Meet yesterday. Evidently the clinics and the layouts went over well with attendees.
If you can stand one more photo of seneca lake, here is one of my favorites taken back in 2008 at Camp Whitman (church camp) Music Camp of a few of our campers riding the "Banana Boat" one evening. The Banana Boat is an inflatable that was towed behind our chase boat and could give a quite interesting ride.... They loved to back track across the wake from the powerboat. Anyway the Banana Boat is spotlighted by sunset over the lake. enjoy!
We got about 3" of rain here in Geneva over the last 3 days. Nice to see the sun again and not have to watch the siphon down cellar all the time....
Back to getting some items out away. Need to go out and bring in the Sunday Paper and go grocery shopping later as well.
Have a great day.
Evening Diners,
I went to Sierra Vista yesterday for a quilt shop hop. A shop hop is when you go to each store that participants in it. With each store stamps your book and gives a small gift. Sometimes with or not a store discount, another reason to spend money.
On the layout front I decided to put a small abandoned line. The idea of abandoned line was to make look larger. Since my downtown scene will be to small (probably). I can't tell unless I buy buildings and track. The track was going to be use old Atlas embedded into the street and particle apart in places. I don't know if I going to use switch track connecting the old line or placing a straight track forgetting the switch all together.
Evening Diners!
Flo, Ed and I will have a please. Yes Flo I know I am late but I was posting on the main page.
Work was nothing special. Only 2 customers in 5 hours. Highlite of the day was when a woman called at 25 minutes till closing. She asked "what time did I close" I told her I leave at 5:00 PM. She told me the town she was in and asked "do you think I will make it there in time"? She was 35 minutes away so I told here No. Said she was going to try so I waited till 5:05 then I blew out of the store. Glad she did not make it, it was a great day here and I wanted some daylight when I got home.
Felt great when I got home! While I would have loved to work on the trains I had some Honey Do's that I have been putting off. My wife is tickled I got them done and so am I. I was tired of hearing about them.
Train Front Ran the Penn SD 7 I am leasing from Ed. Decent running engine and it has sound! Well, there is no sound decoder but it still makes sound anyway. I have a few ideas to make the engine quiter. Still a great engine. Besides with running 2 sound engine hardly hear it.
Time to walk Sparkie The Rocket Dog.
Any old timers here rembemer where I got this engine?
Good evening
Ken ... I recall Jeffrey's Midland Gulf Railway. I wonder what his family did with his other model railroad equipment.
Good evening diners,
Flo a tall frosty beer for me please.
How mud I love the on the water pic. Looks great.
I got the broken nozzle part out of the airbrush. Just needed to use these stubby nosed pliers I've had for years. I'll order new parts soon and begin airbrushing again not to long from now.
Good Evening or Morning,
Ken, I remember when Jeffrey re-painted that loco, I think the number was a little joke on his part, he liked to do that sort of thing. Sure do miss his posts. He was a very brave man and never complained despite his many painful ailments.
Well time for bed,
CN Charlie
herrinchoker-I use a 1863 .58 cal. Remington Zouave front stuffer.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Bear:
Heck!! Makes my 1896 Lee Enfield MK1 Long Tom look positively new!!
The Canadian Rangers are a group of quasi-military people who patrol Canada's far north. They are about to receive new weapons which have been specifically designed for use in cold temperatures. They will be state-of-the-art. That's great news for them because up until now they have been using Lee Enfields and they will still be using the Lee Enfields well into 2018 until the new rifles become available! Lee Enfields were first used around 1895. That means that the Canadian Rangers are using technology that is more than 120 years old. The forum rules prevent me from commenting further.
By the way, I have a Snider Enfield that I was told by my family dates from the Boer War. The bore is about the same size as a 12 gauge shotgun! I believe it is one of the earliest examples of a breach loader. The original design was done in the 1850s. It also has a 3 edged bayonnet. The triangular wounds were supposedly much more difficult to treat. Nasty!
herrinchokerI use a 1863 .58 cal. Remington Zouave front stuffer.
That must be a blast (pardon the pun) still using a muzzle loader. I'm not a hunter but I do like firing guns. I have only seen muzzle loaders used a few times at historical re-enactments and I have never fired one. I would love to.
Further to my Snider Enfield story, I will relate a tale told to me by my father. Caveat: I don't know if the facts are true.
Many years ago my father and some of his relatives decided to take the Snider Enfield on a hunting trip. They loaded a bunch of shells and off they went. Being a judicious bunch, they decided that they should sight the Snider Enfield in before actually using it to hunt. Several attempts were made by various members of the group to hit a target at about 100'. Nobody even came close. They realized that all their shots had gone way high. For those of you who have not seen a long gun from that era, the sights are flipped up and the aiming 'V' is slid up and down the sight depending on the range of the target. They had set the range for 100'.
They knew something was wrong but they didn't know what, so fortunately they decided not to use the gun. Later, it was explained to them that they had used sulphur powder as opposed to the black powder for which the gun was designed. Sulphur powder has a lot more kick so of course the bullets were pushed much higher than the sights intended. The real issue was not the inability of the sights to deal with the sulphur powder, but the fact that the gun didn't explode in their faces from the extra forces generated by the more modern gun powder. Fortunately the gun remained intact.
Morning all
Finally had a minute to read through the post. Lot of good coments.
Dave - I didnt know that but what I dont understand is I thought all powder has sulfur. Does some have more sulfur than others ?
Bear - Free firewood is always good. That is the first US ship in 33 years ! Why havent they been by more often ?
Ken - Sure do miss Jeff. That is a nice engine.
Angel - Shop Hop ? What is the event for ? To buy quilt parts ? I wouldnt have thought quilts would be a west coast thing.
Lion - Hey I think Howmus got teh last stiky bun. Any left ?
Alvie - What is the average rent in your area ?
Garry - Ididnt think fans got that excited about the Cubs. I wish there was some modeling going on. I cant get the dang permit out of the county. They are already ten days longer than the said it would be.
Herrinchoker - What is "Lobster out oil cans" "Bandit fishing" I laughed out loud at "fast trolling for shark"
Tom - Nice photo. Bet YBH enjoyed that trip
V8 - Estate palnning is always a good idea
Henry - Thanks for the video.
Howmus - Ummm you gonna eat the rest of that sticky bun ??? Lion ran out
TTYL
YGW
Good morning .
I'll have oatmeal and OJ. I'll try to eat healthy stuff before Lion arrives with sticky buns again.
I hope everybody had a good weekend.
Since the Diner serves people from all over, and since I don't particularly care about baseball, I'm not going to take sides in the upcoming World Series.
So on a completely unrelated topic, today's blue-plate special is Chicago-style deep-dish pizza.
--Steven Otte, Model Railroader senior associate editorsotte@kalmbach.com
Good morning all,
Coffee and a cream cheese bagel please.
I need to work at 3pm today, so next step is to motivate myself to get to the gym a bit before work.
YGW, rent for 3br apartments and homes can range from about 800/mo in the less desirable parts of town, some really are just fine to live in, to over 1300/mo in the premier areas near the city's elite private college, and the well-off suburbs. I found a place in the latter area. I like it, as it's still a quick commute to work, easy access to downtown, and only a few blocks from my current locale.
Good Morning,
It is a chilly 2C or about 35F here now but it is sunny.
Ken, I forgot to mention but if that 2-10-2 doesn't have a decoder, it isn't too difficult to install one. I put a Z sized one in front of the cab by removing the boiler shell. Another option would be a tender mount which I also have done but that means either a permanent tender hookup or getting some sort of disconnect plug. By the way that Mehano model was actually only sold in Canada as part of a train set that was made up for a grocery store chain. It is the standard Mehano(IHC) model with an Elesco feedwater heater and CN style front number boards added so it could be a stand-in for CN's 4100 series engine, CN's most powerful. It is a good puller so adding a decoder is worthwhile.
I finally have all of the roadways done on the N scale layout and will put in the grade crossings later today. Then it is on to the ground cover. I have quite a few trees, etc. to install. It will be set in mid-fall.
We don't have much planned for today except a few errands this afternoon. Tomorrow will be a big yard prep day for winter. We have to remove the soil from the flower pots otherwise they will crack with the frost. There are over 80 pots.
See you later,
Good, ah (looks at clock) ah, Afternoon I guess.....
Chloe, I could use a Roast Beast Club Sandwich and a pot of Decaf at the moment, please.
I slept in this morning so Blackie was about 45 minutes late getting his insulin today...... Mostly dark and dreary outside today here in the Finger laes region of NYS, but not a whole lot of precipitation right at the moment... We don't need any more right at the moment. Have to get all the materials I haul to the NMRA Meets sorted and put away today and then get the mailing list updated for the MLK Sholarship fundraising campaign which needs to go out in about a week from now.
Best get busy. Have several items to get done today. Later!